 this prayer and we will get started with our class today. Thank you each one for joining us. Can I request somebody to please open this class in prayer? I'm sure students are coming in and could somebody lead us in prayer, please? Okay, Father, I'll pray. Go ahead, Theron, thank you. Thank you, Lord. Thank you for this classity of blessedness with where we could come together and try to understand the supernatural, Father. You are a supernatural God, Father. We pray that as we go through the content today, maybe you who speak to us and that we get to understand the things that you want to teach us, Father. We choose to operate in the gifts that you have blessed us with and we pray that we stay aligned to you and receive the blessing and the full purpose that you want us to work with, Father. We pray that we learn deeply and we gather all the insights that we need to operate in the supernatural so that people could see you through each one of us, Lord. We thank you, Lord, for this class. We ask this in Jesus' name. Amen, amen. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for joining. I know we were a little late in the previous class so may not have had enough time for the break, but thank you for connecting back quickly. Okay, so we are talking about keys to supernatural ministry. Last week we discussed the first key which is understanding the realm of the spirit and just knowing how the spiritual realm works and beginning to engage with the spiritual realm using the laws of the spiritual realm, which God has put in place. He's made, revealed it to us in His Word. So we begin to use those laws, begin to use that truth, you know, concerning the spiritual realm, keeping in mind that God is greater than anything, keeping in mind that there are angels that have been sent to assist us, also keeping in mind that, yes, there are demonic powers, but we know how to deal with them. We know how to confront them. So that understanding of the spiritual realm is important and of course we are growing in our knowledge of the spiritual realm and so we continue to grow, you know, keep learning, to understand the spiritual realm, how things, how God has designed the spiritual realm so that we can learn how to operate. So today we will move on into the second important key and I've tried to kind of, you know, I've tried to put these keys in some sort of an order of importance that I felt, but I do want to make this statement pretty clear in the beginning and probably keep emphasizing it throughout the course, is that we can never put God in a box, you know, it's like God will not fit into our formula. So although, you know, we are talking about keys and we are saying, you know, this is how the supernatural works, you know, God cannot be put into a formula saying, okay, you A plus B and you'll get the result, you know. Sometimes we have to be, not sometimes, we just have to be led by the Holy Spirit and in any given situation, he's going to tell us which key, which one of these keys to use, okay. Sometimes it's the key of faith and that's what is needed to see a miracle, but sometimes it may not be necessarily a faith key, it could be just the manifestation of the presence and the glory of God, where in a manifestation of the presence, which is another key, which we'll be talking about coming up, but in another situation, it's just the presence of glory of God and people may not necessarily have faith or even any kind of great faith because they may know, but they may not be actively exercising faith, but because of the presence of glory of God, a miracle happens, you know. So we are going to talk about each of these one in sequence, one after the other, but in practice, you and I should be just open to how God wants to move in a given situation, whether you're ministering to an individual or you're ministering to a group of people or a congregation, you know, be open, right? Be aware of the keys, be open. Today we're going to talk about the key of faith and key of faith is very important. Obviously faith is connected to the word of God, which we will talk about next week, you know. So how do we use this? And let me just begin by talking about, you know, using this key and then we will get into this. Now we, most of us know the dynamics of faith, you know, we have a full course on faith in the first year and we've, most of us have heard a lot of teaching on faith and so we will touch on some of those things, but what I want to impress is that there are times when God will say this is how you're going to get your miracle. It's through the exercise of faith. I'm not saying it is like, and I'm repeating myself, it's not that it has to be this way all the time, but this is a very important way. So for example, last year, yeah, last year, I forget exact time period, but what happened was one of our people in church ended up, you know, because of COVID, he ended up in the hospital and he was in a very, very bad state. I mean, you know, I think during this whole time, there were two people from our church here in Bangalore who were like, you know, on the borderline, almost like they're going to die kind of situation, whom I knew personally, you know, and had a lot of interaction with them. So there was some sort of that sense of closeness and also responsibility. But anyway, so this person was in the hospital. Now, this was COVID time. So it's not like you can walk into the hospital and go sit next to him and next to the person pray or ministry, it's not like that. Now, I felt very responsible for this person. And, but there's no way to have contact because he is in, not only the COVID ward, but he's in the, I think it was the HDU or something like that. I don't think it was the ICU, but it was like a HDU, like some similar to an ICU, but maybe a little lower than ICU or something. But, you know, getting reports from the doctor was like, and through his wife that, you know, this is like, hey, doctors also don't know what to do. He was not responding to the typical treatments that were being given and so on. So, okay, we're all praying and we're all concerned. And I just felt in my heart, look, I cannot go there, but there's one thing I can do. And I found out that through his wife that he actually had his phone with him, his phone. So what I did was I said, okay, how are we gonna get this miracle? And of course we are praying. And I felt in my heart, in this particular case, what I needed to do is I need to put the word of God into him. The first thing to deal with was fear because of various fear. So what I did is I would every day record a WhatsApp message, send a term by WhatsApp, and he would listen to it. So first deal with holy Shofia, then need to build faith. Because I felt in this particular case, this is the way we are going to get the miracle. Right now, of course, thank God for the doctors, thank God for what they were doing. They had said, he's not responding to what we're giving him. And it's only a miracle that's gonna bring him back. So initially my message is to him was on dealing with fear, just letting him know he can live. Because at that point, there's so much of fear that, hey, I'm gonna die, all this thing. Then just putting the word of God into him, or the word of God. Now, from his side, I have to give him the credit. Because later on when he came out, he told me, he would listen to each message five or six times. So he was not just like, oh, I've also sent me a message, man, he has nothing else to do, kind of thing. He wasn't treating it like that. He was taking every WhatsApp message, and these messages were short, short, like maybe five minutes, kind of thing. But it was all on healing. And he said, every day the message would come, he would listen throughout the day, keep listening to that same thing, five or six times, just, just. So that means he was doing his part to build faith in his heart. But that was the way we were going to get his miracle. And because of COVID, it affects the lungs and all those things happen anyway. So I think we did this for about 12 days. I didn't keep count, but I think it was from the time he went into the HDU. So initially when he had problems, nobody thought it becomes so serious. But the moment he got into HDU, I started sending him these messages, 12 days, I think, approximately, every day sending the message. He was listening, listening to the word, over and over and over again. I don't know, one of the key scriptures was Romans 8, 11. If the Spirit who raised Jesus up from the dead dwells in you, he will quicken your mortal body by his spirit who dwells in you. And the Holy God will quicken your body. So he should speak life into every cell of his body because the doctors saying the lungs are, you know, affected and all those things because of COVID. Breathing is so hard. So every day that eventually he came out. Then he also went back and the doctor said, lungs in the ejective, I said, things are so clear, mostly clear at that time. I think he went back after a week or so of his discharge. So they themselves gave, you know, like a walking miracle report. Now, and I know Prabhakar here has a testimony as well. The point I want to get across is that, that in certain situations, okay, as we are ministering to people, we need to be aware of how is the miracle gonna come, you know, here for this person. And in most cases, faith is required. But in order to encourage faith, we have to put the word in, put the word in, put the word in. Yeah. And build faith because a big thing, especially in a situation of disease and life and death, fear is a big thing. The moment fear comes in, you know, it affects the person, cripples the person, then fear grips so many other people and faith is very difficult to have faith. But it's in those moments, you need to know, faith is the key in the situation for us to receive the miracle. So we have to feed, we have to keep giving the word, we have to keep our focus on the word, and then eventually we're going to break through, we're going to see the result, we're gonna see the miracle. Okay, so today we are talking about the second key to the supernatural, which is faith. Now, we know about faith, we know the dynamics of faith, how God works, but I want to just emphasize certain things, both for ourselves and as we minister to people about this whole aspect of faith causing the miracle. So it's not a complete teaching on faith or anything, but we need to understand the importance of faith in order to see the supernatural. Okay, I'm just gonna quickly share the outline and some of the key points I want to touch on today. You know, Jesus taught us the importance of faith. In John 11 and verse 14, he told Martha, Martha did I not tell you, if you believe you will see the glory of God, if you believe. You will see the glory of God. So Jesus telling us, here's a very important key, you want to see the glory of God, you have to believe. Now, faith believing can be used in a synonymous manner. You want to see the glory of God, you have to have faith. You want to see the glory of God, you've got to believe. And we also know that Jesus said in Matthew 17 and verse 20, if you have faith, nothing will be impossible to you. So this is very important, that when we are ministering to people or when we are for our own selves, we have to start out with this understanding of faith that if I have faith, the glory of God will manifest. No questions asked, why? Jesus said it. He said, if you have faith, you will see the glory of God. Now, the reason I'm emphasizing this is because sometimes people downplay this whole thing. People say, what is this? You're saying you have faith and you can see a miracle. All of that, sometimes they make fun of us, people who talk about faith. But it's okay, we are in good company. We are in company with Jesus. And Jesus said, if you have faith, you will see the glory of God. Jesus said, if you have faith, nothing will be impossible to you. So we're not moving on somebody's women fancy, we are moving on the word of God or the word of Jesus Christ Himself. If you have faith, you will see. If you have faith, nothing is impossible. So we have to necessarily start from that point. Don't start with, let me give this a try. Let me give faith a try. And especially during, again, I'm going back this COVID time because sometimes when people are close to you, it really affects you personally. And so this year, when another person in church was in hospital, and it affected us personally, at least affected me very personally. So this was during the month of, I think it was during month of June, July or something, June, I think June. And the challenge in this situation was we had no contact with them, no phone. He was, we couldn't contact, and he was not in that position to have a phone. So he was like that. But then every day I sat with his family on call, his wife and children, and we went through the world. So now I can't speak to him, but I can speak to his wife and his children. And every day we went to the world, spent time with the world, build faith. But you know, it was not easy because all the news coming back from the hospital is like, hey, he's sinking, sinking. But we had only one choice. We have to operate from John 11, 14. If you have faith, you will see the glory of God. We have to operate from Matthew 17, 20. If you have faith, nothing is impossible. I mean, that's how we have to operate. We have no choice. I know it sometimes is very difficult when you're speaking to the family, and you know, you have to encourage them. You have to help them stay in faith in the middle of all the daily reports that are coming back from the hospital. And you yourself have to stay in faith in the midst of all of this thing that's happening. So, but we have no choice. Yeah, we have to start off from John 11, 40, Matthew 17, 20. I believe that with faith, we can get this done. I believe just because Jesus said, if you have faith, you will see the glory of God. That's the point I'm starting out from. So that's how we have to minister. And as ministers, we cannot be, you know, vacillating. We cannot be shaky when it comes to that. We have to be absolutely convinced. God, you said, so I'm taking, I'm coming from there. This miracle has to happen. This person has to come out. It has to be, we have no choice. So that's the first thing I want to place before us. When it comes to faith, we have to follow what Jesus said. I mean, it'd be convinced about it. That with faith, nothing is going to be impossible to you. God wants, God has told you to go after it. And God has said, this is what I want you to do. You have to be convinced. Don't be shaky. Be absolutely convinced as your minister. Or the same applies for yourself. Okay. Now, sometimes for our own selves, it may take a little while to come into that place, but we need to come into the place of John 11, 40 of Matthew 17, 20. That I'm convinced that this would be done because of faith in my heart. Because Jesus said, if you have faith, you will see the glory of God. If you have faith, nothing would be impossible to you. Operate from that. First. Second thing, we must understand that our personal will is involved. And this is important for ourselves as well as when we have initially people. If somebody doesn't, is not, you know, their will is not connected in the whole process. It's very difficult to minister. If they don't want to be healed, if they are in that place where if it happens, it's okay. If it doesn't happen, it's also okay. That's a very difficult environment for faith to work. Faith operates where your will is firmly settled. You know, we use the word determination. You are determined to receive. So for our own selves, in our own lives, and also when you're ministering to people, see have they come into that place where they are determined to get it? If they are in that, you know, it's okay if I have it. I don't know if it's okay if I don't have it, then it's going to be difficult for faith to operate. In the notes I have mentioned Matthew 1528, which is the story of that woman from Canaan. It's a great example of determination. So you can imagine, first of all, to begin with, she's disqualified. What do you mean? Because in the earthly ministry of Jesus, he was focusing on the Jews and she was a Gentile. So it took a lot of courage to decide to go to Jesus. I'm sure that she'd heard all the miracles about Jesus and all the wonderful things that he said, Hey, look, my daughter is troubled. I'm hearing about Jesus who is helping many people. I know he's a Jew. I know he's serving the Jews. I'm a Gentile. I know it's a little odd for me to go to him, but I'm going. And so she comes and what happens? The disciples are saying, Hey, go away. I mean, I can't blame them because they are just following what Jesus said. Jesus told them, go to the house of Israel. So they're probably doing it because they know that they're supposed to minister to the Jews, the people of Israel. Or maybe that must have been a very tiring day and so maybe that could have been another reason. We don't know exactly why, but initially when she comes, she keeps her away, but then she comes to Jesus. She somehow gets past the disciples. She comes to Jesus and even Jesus is not very welcoming at that moment. He is saying, I can't take the children's bread and give it to the dogs. In other words, you say, I can't take what belongs to the Jews and give it to the Gentiles. It is out of God's program at the moment. Eventually it's going to go to all the Gentiles, but at the moment it's out of program. So that's a second discouragement for her. Hey, the man whom I've come to was going to heal my daughter is telling me something like this. But look at her determination. Her response was just one crumb, just one crumb. You can give the children their bread, but just give me a crumb. Lord, even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the master's table. And so in response to that, notice how Jesus said, Matthew 1528, O woman, great is your faith, be it unto you, even as you will. See, as you will, Jesus recognized that. Her will was involved. She was determined. So we have to appreciate this woman a lot. She was a Gentile. She could have been discouraged by the disciples. She could have been discouraged by Jesus' initial response, but she was so determined. I just want to get a miracle. I want my daughter to be well, and I am going to get it. So he said, you have great faith, be it to you as you will. See, the problem with many believers, sometimes even us is we are not in the place of determination that we should be to receive what we want. We are actually in a place of wishing. That means we're saying, God, if you give it to me, it's okay. If you don't give it to me, it's okay. It's also okay. Sometimes we spiritualize it and we say, Lord, if it be, I will. But this woman didn't come to Jesus and say, Lord, if it be, I will heal my daughter. He said, she said, I want a crumb. I want a crumb. So determination is very important. Whether it's we for ourselves or when you're ministering to people. So see where the people are. Are they really determined to receive their healing? Or are they saying, I'm going to live with this. I don't want it. It's okay. If God, if it happens, you let it drop on me like, you know, cherries of a tree that fall down, but they're not in the place of determination. Are you determined? Are you determined to receive the promise of God? That's the second thing to, to receive their healing. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I see Beth's comment on the chat. So we will, yeah, we will address that. That's a good question. What, you know, what we're talking about is this is the norm. This is how God will operate. There are exceptions. And that is where we need to flow with God. The exceptions are there will be times when God heals people independent of faith. And we see the case for, you know, in John five, we see the man by the pool of Bethesda. He didn't even know who Jesus was in John nine. We see the blind man. He didn't even know who Jesus was. Or in Mark nine as Beth was pointing out, Matthew 17, we see the father whose faith was weakened because, you know, his son wasn't delivered. So these are exceptions. And in Matthew 17, we see that Jesus works even without a weakened faith. He works even through that. Right. So John five, John nine is teaching us there are exceptions to the norm. The norm, we're talking about the norm. The norm is this is how God wants us to move. This is how God wants us to operate in faith. Other exceptions. Yeah. And like I mentioned, there are times when God moves by his presence and glory, where somebody is healed when people, when somebody is healed, even without faith. Okay. So the norm is for everybody to come to him in faith. So Jesus asked about faith. You know, he asked people to believe that I'm able to do this. And you find examples where he could not work miracles because of unbelief. You know, Mark six, five and six in his own hometown. The Bible says he could do their do no mighty works. Why? Because of their unbelief. So you see that unbelief prevented him from working the same Jesus, same anointed person, but unbelief stopped the miraculous. Right. Why? Because that's the way God wants us to move. Right. The norm is we operate by faith. There are other ways by which God works. And that's what we talked about keys. So there are other ways about them just responding to your comment. That, you know, there are other ways. So meaning there is a sovereign work of God. There is the presence, the glory of God. There's the anointing of God, so on. And we do see miracles happen like that. But I'm talking about the whole exercise of faith. So, so, but yeah. So in the case like John five, in a case like John nine, we see that the individuals did not have faith because they didn't even know who Jesus was. Right. But Jesus worked the works of God. And we say, yeah, God is sovereign and these are sovereign acts of God that he moves independent of individual's faith. But in all of the ministry of Jesus, we see that he required people to come to him in faith. Right. So, you know, Matthew nine when the blind man came, he asked them, do you believe that I'm able to do this? And they said, yes. And then he said, according to your faith, be it unto you or, you know, in Matthew 20, when the blind man came to Jesus and he said, what is it that you want? And he said, Lord, that I may receive my sight. Then he said, according to your faith. So throughout the ministry of Jesus, multitudes came to him in faith and all who came to him in faith received. That was the norm. Multitudes, great numbers came to him in faith and they received. They touched the hem of his garment. So many things. But there are these exceptions, which we have recorded like John five and John nine, where people didn't even know who Jesus was, but it was a sovereign work of God. He did it in spite of them not knowing who he was. And then they came to him. They came to know who he later came to know. So the multitudes, all the miracles, great numbers of miracles were all done in response to faith. But we have these occasions also, which we recognize. So that's what we're saying. That's the norm. These are the exceptions and throughout scripture, the Bible is teaching us about faith. Jesus taught us how to use exercise faith. So that's what we're talking about. But like I said in the very beginning, there are other ways in which God healed. So those supernatural happens, which is the presence of the glory of God, the anointing of a spirit, a gift of a spirit. So those things we will talk about in the coming lectures. Okay. But now we're talking about the whole issue of faith. And there are times when God says, that's the way this person is going to receive. And you and I will have to, you know, focus on it. So what I'm saying is when we are ministering, we have to be in this absolute place in this place of faith. Right. And second, what I was saying is our will is involved. So we have to be determined to receive. And I think this is a big area, this big problem area for many people. But we know the promises, but we're not determined to receive the promises. And it's a very subtle thing because we can quote the promise. We know the promise, but how we determined to receive the promise, that's a different thing. And what I was saying is many times, we use the phrase, if it be thy will, to cover up our lack of determination. But you will find in the scriptures, that only on one occasion, Jesus prayed, if it be thy will. He never prayed if it be thy will in the context of the miracles or the healings. The only place he prayed, if it be thy will, was in the garden of Gethsemane, when he was going to go to the cross. So in that context, he said, I'm submitting. But in all the other cases, he already knew the will of the Father, the will of the Father was to heal, the will of the Father was to deliver. But now people are to be determined to receive. Okay. Go ahead, Christopher, your question. Yeah, Christopher. Yes, can you hear me? Your question, please. Go ahead. My question is about this, particularly during COVID times, there have been cases of, you know, intense prayer that has happened, you know, for some individuals. And I think I'm aware of, you know, the person you were talking about, there have been also a couple of other cases where people have prayed and the outcome has not, has not been positive. The person has eventually passed away. And so I'm just trying to understand where there could be some, something that was missing. I mean, to your point about, you know, faith and, you know, the determination, could that have been, you know, something that was not as, you know, as intense as it should have been? Because I mean, you had mentioned about, you know, this point about, you know, that I will be done. The other phrase, I think that is also commonly used is that after, you know, there is a, there isn't a positive outcome. You know, people say that, you know, that, you know, it was that person's time, you know, to go and that was God's will. So I just wanted to bring those two points and, you know, ask you, you know, what is your view on that? Yeah. So why did we not see every person prayed for healed? Why did some people die young? You know, of course, both during COVID times and at other times, people die young. And this is, you're talking about believers in spite of the prayer and so on. So here's how I would respond to it, Christopher. One is every case is subjective, meaning it's different. And we do not want to, you know, judge, but we can, what we can say is God is perfect. His word is perfect. So if there's any failure, it cannot be with God or his word. It has to be with us. It would be incorrect for us in a situation where there's been a failure to try to alter the nature of God or the promise of God. What we have to say is, yes, there has been a failure on our side and what could have been the failure and then, you know, there are many, many possible variables or reasons. Sometimes, and I think this is the problem with many of us believers is we know the word. That means I can quote, you know, maybe 10 verses on healing. That doesn't mean I actually believe those 10 verses on healing. I know the 10 verses on healing. I can quote it. Do I really believe it? Having faith in the word is different from knowing the word. And the problem with many of us is believers. We know the word. Question is, do you believe the word? So that's one big problem, you know, and there could be other issues which we are not aware of. For instance, if I have unforgiveness in my heart, I know that hinders faith. So if somewhere in that whole process of trying to believe God, if I have unforgiveness, it's a roadblock to faith, you know, and there could be other things like may not be unforgiveness, but maybe it's hatred or some other, you know, roadblock to faith. So our response will be, you know, we don't have the right to point fingers at anyone, at anyone in any situation. It's not right to do that. But we are very, but our conclusion is God, you are perfect. Your word is perfect. You've taught us in your word. We will continue to follow it. Forgive us for our failures. We want to learn. We want to get better. We want to keep growing. So, you know, that's kind of how I process questions, you know, that's how we process it. I don't blame God and so on. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to take the next. Is that okay, Christopher? I can move on to the next two questions. Is it okay? So I'll just take the next two questions. Anita, was it a question from Joshua 19 or? No, sir. Okay. You're just sharing the words. Okay. Okay. So, you know, when we look at the situation in Mark nine, at this point, Jesus was up on the amount of transfiguration with his disciples. And here comes this man who had a son was demon possessed. Right. And he brings his son was demon possessed to. The nine disciples of Jesus, excluding. Peter, James and John. Right. So he brings. So obviously he has come with expectation. Otherwise, he would not have showed up with his son was demon possessed. He's expecting, he's fully expecting his son to be delivered. And the Bible doesn't state it, but I'm assuming he came with great faith. Now the disciples are all. Commissioned by Jesus. To minister. And we are in Mark nine. Earlier in Mark six, we know that the disciples of Jesus had successful ministries, you know, in Mark six, was 12 and 13. It says that the disciples had gone to many places. They cast out demons. So it's not, not that the nine disciples were not qualified. Mark chapter six was 12 and 13 says that all of them this man came with full faith, bringing his demon possessed son to nine disciples of Jesus. Now nine disciples of Jesus who previously were very successful, worked on his son. He was not delivered. It must have been catastrophic to his faith at that moment. So you can, you know, he must have just like man, what's happening is faith is shaken. Eventually, Jesus comes down with Peter, James and John. And says, okay, what's going on? And so he goes to Jesus. And you know, she says, what are you asking? He says, you know, this, this man has brought his son and he rebukes them verse 19. What is the problem? Verse 19, not the technique, but faith or faith less generation. He didn't say, Hey guys, you're using the wrong demon. No, the issue was faith less generation. Okay. So he rebukes them. Then this man comes and notice this man's request from Jesus. Verse 22, how does he ask Jesus? If you can do anything, that means this man has come to a place where he's not even sure Jesus can do it. He must have come earlier for the full expectation from the nine disciples. But now he thinks, Hey, I don't know. I'm not even sure if Jesus can do this. So he's saying in verse 22, if you can do anything, have compassion. Help me. What's Jesus' response? Jesus puts the responsibility back on the man. The man is trying to put the responsibility on Jesus. Jesus puts it back on him. He says, if you can believe. Meaning, meaning Jesus saying, it's not about whether I can. It's about whether you can. Of course Jesus can. He's anointed. So the question is not if you can. That is Jesus can. Jesus turns it around to him in verse 23 and says, if you can believe. So the issue here is believing. Everything's possible. So verse 24, the man acknowledges where he is in faith. He says, Lord, I believe. Help man believe. What does it mean? I believe. That's the whole reason why he came in the first place. Otherwise he would not have come. Help man believe. Lord, I'm struggling. Nine of your disciples. Tried it and nothing has happened so far. So. There was that he believes, but he's struggling. Obviously because of the experience he's going through. But what was Jesus looking for? If you can believe. Now, Jesus goes on to deliver the man's son. So it teaches us that. There are times when our faith may be shaken, but God will work through the faith that we have. Sometimes you are faith in your heart, but your head is full of questions, which probably was the case. He probably believed in his heart, but his mind was shaken. Man, nine disciples. I don't know. They prayed for one hour, maybe two hours. I don't know how long, but my son isn't delivered. I mean, is this going to work today or not? But in his heart, he believes. That's the situation he's in. We don't know exactly, but he's struggling with faith and unbelief. And Jesus worked with the faith he had because that's what Jesus is looking for. If you believe, all things are possible. Okay. So I hope that kind of gives you, gives us an understanding. The conclusion of the matter is God will work with the faith we have, even though we are battling doubts in our minds. God will work with the faith we have, and that's the confidence we have. There are times when we will be like this man, we're battling the doubts because of our immediate experiences, but we maintain the faith and he works with the faith we have. Okay. Redeema, let's go ahead and take your question, please. Redeema, your question. Sorry. Yeah. My question is faster, that how can we help our fellow believers to receive the manifestation of the glory of God? Where in times like they might be unknowingly restricting their faith, I'll give a scenario, but we can quote John 1412, where Jesus himself said that everyone who believes in me shall do even greater works. But then there are a few believers, fellow believers. Again, their intentions are just to make sure that every act they see should be an act of God and not any other kind of cult practices or anything. For example, there have been, it might not be the perfect example, but there are arguments like when talking about near-death experiences or things like that. So there are believers who say that even Lazarus, whom Jesus raised from the death, there are no such near-death experiences recorded by him in the Bible. So ultimately, again, we go to John 1412, but my point is there are believers who keep going back to the word of God and their faith is great, but they just sometimes tend to restrict themselves unknowingly, unintentionally by just going, taking the word of God and taking the word of God and taking the word of God and taking the word of God again and again as a blueprint. So how can we help such fellow believers to receive the supernatural and see the manifestation? Srikumar, do you have a question or do you have something to say to what Redema is saying? Sir, I have a question. Thank you. We'll finish Redema's. Okay. So how do we help believers who are limiting themselves with the word of God, I mean, by quoting scripture? So basically, they are unwilling to receive the supernatural because they're using scripture to limit themselves. Is that what you're saying? Redema, I'm trying to understand. Yeah, kind of. They do believe in the supernatural, but then there are certain events that their mind just cannot understand the context and they go back to the word of God. Basically, with current time events, they just refer it with the biblical events. The miracles we saw there, for example, depression these days, like we want to give someone hope. Now, there's not a very exact replicated miracle that I could tell someone that, hey, Jesus did this. So we can do it in your life as well. And there are so many, many more things. Again, John 1412, we can quote, but I don't know. Some believers, they are knowingly not that they intend to, but these kind of arguments do come. Yeah, I think the best way to respond is by showing them some scriptures. I mean, the things that I would do is, one is I would show example, John 20, the 20th chapter, where it says, you know, that not many other signs Jesus did, which are not recorded for us in scripture. John was 20 and was 20, John 21. Okay, John 20 was 30 and John 21 was 25. Both of these are telling us there are many other signs Jesus did, but they are not recorded, which means that there are many other miracles that are not recorded. So we cannot say, I want a recorded miracle for every, a matching recorded miracle for every kind of miracle he's going to do today. No, the Bible is very clear here. John 20 was 30. John 21 was 25. There are many other things Jesus did, which is not recorded. So that's one thing that might help them open up a little bit. Second thing is I would point to the cross. Two things about the cross. One is Isaiah 53 verse four and five. It says that the punishment for our shalom as Isaiah 53 verse five, the punishment for our shalom, the word shalom is this all encompassing word. In English we use the word peace, but the Hebrew, the word shalom is all encompassing, meaning it includes physical healing, protection, well-being. Basically it means shalom. You be at peace, total well-being for you. So it says in verse five, Isaiah 53, the punishment for our total well-being. So if that person is suffering from depression, well, total well-being, meaning be free from depression. If the person is suffering from some addiction, well, total well-being, be free from that. Whatever is needed for your total well-being, for your shalom, was paid for. Or another way to look at it is from Deuteronomy 28. Maybe we have the blessings and the curses. If you want to, we could read through the curses and say, hey, all these things are listed here. And look at the curses. It's very broad. Any other disease. So it doesn't even, it doesn't have to say, this particular cancer is not mentioned in the Bible. Well, the Bible is just saying any disease, whatever it may be. Disease we know today, and disease that might be discovered in the future, he heals, right? So I think if we present these, this perspective, maybe it will help them to open up and say, hey, God can do things, miracles in our day and time that, not, we don't have a matching record, you know, a corresponding record of that exact miracle in, in, in the Bible. Yeah. So it's kind of how I would approach to speak to them. Okay. All right. Welcome. So we have a couple of more questions. What I'll do is I'll copy these questions and we will pick them up at the beginning of next week's class. And we will continue to, you know, just some more things here on how do we minister in faith so that, you know, we can help people receive or experience a supernatural. We will discuss these and if you have any more questions, we can take them up, you know, next week on the subject. And we'll just get into the practical side of how do we minister in this area. But let's close. I've taken almost 10 minutes more than a lot of time. About a time. Can somebody please close in prayer and we will discuss. We'll continue this next week. And yeah, somebody can close. I had a question. Actually, I need encouragement first. But first, right now Afghanistan is going like we know the situation there and 31st August, it's said to be a very day of, like a decision that they, the American, American soldiers are going to leave Afghanistan totally. And that would be in their hand. So how, how should we take stand and how should we pray for that? Because we, when I look back in my life, God has been like, God has given me hope in my home or place situation also he has worked. But right now it looks so hopeless in Afghanistan. Then how should we take stand and how should we pray for that? One is let me just mention two things. One is the practical side. One is the spiritual side. One is in the practice. What has happened is in the last 20 years, there have been a lot of I would say Christian influence, Christian missionaries, people going into Afghanistan. So there has been a lot of seeds already planted in that country, in the lives of people. You know, and so it's been a window of opportunity 20 years almost where thank God for the missionaries who went in. Thank God for the environment that was conducive for work to be done. I remember I just, I think it was last year, there was a girl from Kabul who had come to Bangalore and she came to APC and I was like shocked. She is a Afghan girl. I just didn't take her details. I kind of, I don't know and we don't have her details in our system. So we couldn't track her down, but just examples like this where the 20 years can be seen as a window of opportunity where the seeds of the gospel were sown in Afghanistan into the hearts and lives of people. So that is a positive and those seeds will not go waste. And even the people who are being evacuated and were going into countries around the world, have been more exposed to the gospel where they go. So that's also in a way a very positive thing because wherever they're going, they're being you know, they're being used over displaced, but they are being redistributed across many countries. You know, wherever they are, we say God let them encounter Jesus. I remember, you know, back in time when Albania came to the U.S. and over there they were exposed to the gospel. You know, they would be from a communist country that was worse than North Korea in those days. This was talking about just, you know, 92, 93 that period and the country just opened up a lot of people left and, you know, so it was very, so even the, you know, they went as quote unquote refugees wherever they went, most places they were exposed to the gospel. So we can look at that. You know, I'm talking about a practical way that people are, wherever they're being displaced, it's an opportunity for them to hear the gospel and sees have already been so on in the country. Now, second is, okay, practically, yeah, the Taliban is at the moment in power and we're going to see how, you know, we know they're, where they come from, things will play out in a certain way, for God is king over the nations, you know, and God, we want your gospel to penetrate. I just say this like how we pray for China or how we pray for Russia now, God, those are hard countries with strong dictatorial leadership, but God, we want the gospel to flood China. We want the gospel to flood Russia. The same way God Afghanistan, that the gospel, there flood that nation and nobody can stop it. You know, not even the Taliban. So you pray with that confidence, you know, think about what's happening in Turkey and Iran and Iraq. You know, Turkey right now has a very strong, you know, leaders has a strong bend towards fundamental Islam, but the gospel is spreading in Turkey. Same thing in Iran and Iraq, the gospel is spreading. Even though they were strong Arab nations, so same thing we can expect in Afghanistan. Thanks. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Sorry for taking a certain time here. Let's close and prayer. Somebody could pray and dismiss us, please. Okay, I'll pray. Okay, Rose, go ahead and pray and maybe have us and you can pray after Rose. Go ahead. Thank you. Father in heaven, almighty and holy, we thank you for the past three hours of revelation and learning. Thank you that through these online school, you are making us equipped in the knowledge of you and your supernatural ways. Thank you that it is you who have gathered us all into one place from all far corners of the world and that it is you who is preserving us and sustaining our lives in order to be continuously used by you. And as we receive today, take root in our hearts and let us bear fruit so we too can be ready to share the seed of your word to others in these trying times. As we carry on our individual ways, direct us with your Holy Spirit and the light from your word. Lord, lead us, show us the way and we will follow. Let us put our faith on you who is the most powerful and let your supernatural ways be our natural. As the truth of your kingdom lives on this earth. We ask this all in the name of your Son Jesus Christ, amen. Amen, amen. Harrison, you want to pray? Our Father and our God, we want to thank you. We want to bless your name. We want to give you all the glory. Thank you for the word that you have made us to understand. Thank you for revealing to us your kingdom. Thank you God for what you're doing in the APC Bible College and we pray that you will go for every student that is represented here today. I think you will go for your servant whom you've set out for a time like this. Father, we pray that you will give us a heart to go to love's unconditional as we exercise our faith. The Father, even when we exercise our faith will not be biased in our minds. We pray, Lord, that the hunger for you will drive us to pop from the heavens and let your name alone be glorified in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen, amen. Thank you, everyone. Have a good afternoon or good rest of the day, wherever you are. I'll see you soon and I will make note of these questions and we will pick them up next week. God bless. Bye now. Thank you, Father.