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And so, thank you, those of you who are in the YouTube chat as well. Moderators, I'm going to have you hold it down just in case we get some trolls. We know Montana Viking, aka Mark Ryan, is in there. I think TGOT has been blocked for obvious reasons. But if these guys come in and they're not going to comport themselves and govern themselves accordingly, you already know how to handle them. You already know what to do. But nonetheless, I'm looking forward to this discussion with Miss Furlough Speaks. I would just actually on her channel. This is the second appearance I made with her. Second appearance. But I'm looking forward to having this conversation with her. Thank her for being bold, which says a lot for her being a woman versus these so-called men who want to make accusations, and particularly false ones, without any evidence of proof, but don't want to deal with the issue at hand, which is why we're having this conversation regarding John MacArthur and his abuse, and his unrepentant attitude and behavior toward women and children who have been abused by those that he has been covering and capping for for over 44 plus years to date. But I do appreciate and I have to give respect where respect is due and salute this lady for for taking time out of her schedule to come on to come up. I just got to give her her respect for that, even when people were trying to dissuade her from coming on, trying to put fear in her heart for coming on. She still stood 10 toes down and was a woman of her word as she stated that she would come on. And so she's in the green room waiting to come on. But I wanted to just go over a few things. I want to lay some ground rules out first and foremost. Number one, I know we have lively discussions. I know we have very passionate discussions, but what we are not going to have are people being attacked or being insulted. We're not going to put up with that here. Never have never will doesn't mean we don't have moments but that is not the the characteristics of here on the BCV channel and so we may have disagreements but we can disagree respectfully. We're not disrespecting people while we disagree. And so I assured Miss furlough I assured her followers who are joining and will probably in the chat as well. First and foremost, thank you. Those who have been coming over here from Miss furlough's channel. Thank you for joining. We definitely welcome you and hope you will be encouraged and maybe even have your perspectives regarding me. Change based on the truth not based on feelings but based on facts. But I do appreciate her for coming on. You know, every time I'm getting ready to do something now all of a sudden I see a stupid dog on. I think it's a net we have we have fruit in our kitchen I think and so now I got a net and my dog on in my studio. But anyway, so we all see me doing like this. I'm not I'm not daydreaming. I'm not daydreaming. I'm trying to my manager had to kill a net. But but anyway, I want to just cover some verses real quick as we strive to do before we discuss the matter at hand. And so this is in Proverbs chapter 18 Proverbs chapter 18 verse two. And it was going to lay out some lay out some text here. The Bible says a fool does not delight in understanding but only in revealing his own mind. A fool does not delight in understanding but only in revealing his own mind verse 17 of the same book. He who gives an answer before he hears it is a folly and shame to him verse 17 same same chapter. The first to plead his case seems right until another comes and questions him chapter 19 of Proverbs verse two. The Bible says it is also not good for a person to be without knowledge and he who hurries with his feet airs he who hurries with his feet airs or sins. First Corinthians chapter four and verse five. Paul writes he says therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts. And then each man's praise will come to him from God. Now I wanted to share and highlight those scriptures because again. In dealing with social media and the social media streets people can say a lot of things and a lot of things we may say may not always be factual, especially we don't have all the information to have all of the facts. And so when we make statements and when we make dogmatic statements or draw conclusions without evidence, then this is what the Bible says that we have become we become fools. When we don't ascertain when we don't when we don't gather all the information or we make judgments because of personality. Not only are we fools but then we have now sinned by becoming partial. And this is where I believe a lot is going on in the church today, especially when it comes to I'm going to see I'm going to get on y'all I'm going to get him when I get him. It's going to be a wrap, especially when it comes to issues of abuse and and John MacArthur. Now, no need to tell anyone we already know for the most part, a lot of things some people may not be aware of. And so it is my responsibility as as a host of this channel to try to inform, enlighten, provide evidence, provide information so that going forward people don't make statements that they cannot support and let alone defend. And so my concern has been the unnecessary defending of a man who has for decades, who has for decades been guilty of protecting and not just protecting but financially supporting pedophiles. This is all documented. This is this is all facts. This is not an accusation that cannot be proven. It is court recorded documented evidence statements have been made irrefutably so of how Grace Community Church that is headed by John MacArthur has been covering for abuse. To this present day, this man has yet to repent. This man has yet to make right the things that he has done toward innocent victims. Innocent victims. And it is our responsibility, brothers and sisters, as believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and as Christians to do what the Word of God tells us to do. And that is simply this, what to defend people with to defend those who can't defend themselves. Why? Because in Proverbs chapter 31 verse eight, the Bible says this open your mouth for the mute for the rights of all the unfortunate open your mouth, judge righteously and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy. That is our call. That is our responsibility. All of us. And you don't even have to be a Christian to do that. You just have to be a decent human being. If it is sad when we protect animals, then we do those who are made of the image and likeness of God. People get incensed and angered over a dog being abused. But when it comes to women and children, oh, well, hey, you know, they should have done this, they should have done that, or, you know, maybe maybe they did something wrong or, you know, what's wrong with submitting? Submission is okay as long as we're not submitting ourselves to violence and abuse of those that are supposed to protect us. Those that have been entrusted to care for women and children and those who can't defend themselves. I'm going to lead and let alone a man when you violate abuse, take advantage of those who are innocent and those who have trusted have trusted you with their very lives to provide and to take care of them. So why do I get upset? Why do I get angry? Why do you find me up in arms with this kind of thing? Because unlike some people. But by the grace of God, my daughter could be Eileen Gray. My loved ones could be an Eileen Gray or my nieces and nephews could be Eileen Gray's children. That's why. And so instead of me that's clucking my tongue or instead of me saying, well, you know, that'd be different if I have skin in the game. No, we have skin in the game. If we are brothers and sisters in the body of Christ. Because when one member suffers, we all suffer with it. I don't have to tell my hand to go down to my foot if my foot hits the corner of a bed or a wall. My brain is going to send a signal to the rest of my body and my hand is going to go to that affected and injured area and to provide comfort and to provide some type of relief to that affected and abused area. What are we doing in the body of Christ? What we're doing in the body of Christ is saying, well, that's not my toothache. It's not my toe that got stumped. It's not my wife or my children that got beat down. Oh, it's not my church. It's not my pastor. When things have been brought to our attention and we are equipped to deal with it, then we should. Now we can't be a superhero and help everyone, but we can in the sphere that God has called and assigned us to do. And so when I hear people tell me how I'm supposed to deal with Larry Reed or deal with this person or that person, there's so many heretics, but there's not enough people that can spot the heretics and let alone expose and call them out. So I'm going to do what God has called me to do. I'm going to do what God has equipped me to do. Because what he's called me to do, he's going to hold me accountable for, not for those who think I should be held accountable for things that I am not called to do in that moment or in that season. So I wanted to lay all that out. But my guest here tonight has decided to come on and to be willing to have this discussion and dialogue. She already is aware what we're going to be discussing and talking about. So there's no surprise and there's no got your moments that I'm trying to do with this with this young lady. So I'm going to respect her as a fellow image bearer. I know that she does not want to be called Christian. That's her prerogative. That's fine. That's her choice. It's not it's not something that we shy from because we see it in scripture. We know it was used as a prerogative, but we also see how it has been used as a blessing. It acts 1126, 26 to 28. First to me first Peter 416 as well. All elucidate and all provide context regarding we as Christians and what we are called to be in the Bible Christ. So anyway, without any further ado, I want to bring and introduce to most of you who do not know. This this young lady want to bring her on and welcome her to the to the BCV channel miss furlough. Thank you so much for joining. How are you today? Take it off. Hi guys. How are you? I'm doing great. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can. Let me bring your levels down a little bit. Okay. Try it again. Give me another greeting. Hi guys. How are you? All right. There we go. Explain to the class. First and foremost why they may not they may not be able to see your visage, your face. Oh, okay. So anyway, so most of the times I do have an avatar. But hey, I kind of be busy like five days a week. So I did promise say go that I was coming on. So I'm on here. I may not be showing my face as much but hi. It'll be a next time. But can I just read this scripture before we move forward please? Please. All right. So you guys this scripture right here is really based on this whole thing that's been going on here. And this is also my prayer as well. James 1 19 verse 19. I'll go ahead populate them on the screen while you as you mentioned it. I'm going to put it on the screen as you cited you said 1921. Yes, James 1 19. This is my prayer. Okay, got you. My dear brothers and sisters take note of this. Everyone should be quick to listen slow to speak slow to become angry because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God's desires. Therefore, get rid of all moral fifth and the evil that is prevalent and humbly accept the word planet in you, which can save you. And that's the scripture. All right. Thank you very much for and there may God add a blessing to the reading of his word. The point the point of this is that everyone should be quick to listen slow to speak as slow to become angry. Right. Right. So all right. And that's one of the foundation texts we can add to the list as well. So I'm glad you brought that up. So so let's let's let's basically lay out the reason or reasons why you decided to to come on. In spite of the discouragement that was given to you on your channel by by several people who know me quote unquote are associated or had been associated with me prior to this whole John MacArthur expose by Julie Roy's and others who have been speaking on behalf of those who have been abused. What made you decide to actually come forward and to to come up? Well, actually, I kind of did a video. It wasn't an entire video, but it was actually just a little small statement I made on my channel. And I said, hey, Seiko was is said MacArthur is a pedal, which he which he haven't said MacArthur was a pedal and those in that way. You know, so that's the reason why I'm here. And I'm here to even ask some questions about the situation as well. But the whole statement I made wasn't even really about MacArthur or it wasn't about Corey Minas, but it was about me trying to say hey, why don't you go after this this person here because they have been alleged of molesting three boys actually. And so that was my point of what I was saying. But like I said, I misspoke and I have apologized and hey, but I'm not apologizing for assuming MacArthur was a pedal by association, you know, so. Because. So. Okay, so then. Okay, no problem. I appreciate you. You explain it for this for the record, you know, you had mentioned on your on your on your channel. A couple of days ago, you do not like being called a Christian. So I wanted to just ask you. How how would you would you consider yourself when it comes to being in relationship with with Christ? Are you are you say that would you how would you describe your your walk or your spiritual condition? Well, I will actually when I first started out and you know when I first started out when I first got saved. Yeah, people were saying Christian is Christian that okay I'm a Christian I put no applications and then I just. Based is just. Just stop calling myself a Christian I just stop you know there's some information that I had found out and stuff like that. So I had stopped but. You know you can call me whatever you want to call me but I just see myself as a daughter of God. And that's about it. I don't see myself as no other title a lot of people call me prophetess. A lot of people call me evangelist a lot of people say I'm a Muslim a lot of people say I'm this a lot of people say I'm that but I just prefer I'm just a daughter of God. That's it. Can you tell me how did you or how does a person how does a person become or a daughter of God or son of God or to be to be in the family of God how does a person born again how would a person how does a person become say tell me tell us about your conversion and what does it mean to be if you were to die tonight how do you know that you would be in the presence of God for all eternity if you can explain that for the audience please. How did I become to know the Lord. My story is. Not confusing but I know that many would not understand how I came to the knowledge of the Lord. Can you hear me. Yes, I can. Okay, my phone is actually ringing. I don't know why. I put it on mute. Yeah, put it on silent. What about disturb. Yeah, that's fine. You don't want to hear the vibrating or the sound. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, so anyway this is what I want to say when I first would introduce the salvation. I was introduced to salvation by a prophet. He actually prayed the prayer of salvation and I accepted Christ. However, you guys put it so I accepted the Lord Jesus Christ believe in all this and and from there you know hey I just I just been just walking the walk. And that's about it. So my story is kind of. I don't think people may understand it, you know, but I could just tell you that I met this guy and we had a talk a prophet and he laid hands on me and I got saved. So that was it. Okay, so you say you guys say by by through the hands of another person. What about what about personal faith and trust in Christ? In other words, if in Romans chapter 10 verses 9 through 13, it gives us a summation on what it means for a person to to believe or to come to Christ or to be saved. Does that does that describe or would you would you understand that to be something that chapter Romans chapter 10 matter of fact, I'll just go ahead and populate on the screen for those who may not. I'll put it up there right now. Do you have another device? I'm populating it on the screen right now. Do you see it now? Okay. Let's see. Okay, this is Romans. What now? I can't. Romans chapter 10. I'll read it. I'll read it in your hearing that way you can see it. Oh, if you confess. Yes. Okay. Yes. It says. What does it say? The word is near you in your mouth and in your heart. That is the word of faith which we are preaching that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead. You will be saved for with the heart a person believes resulting in righteousness and with the mouth he confesses resulting in salvation for the scripture says whoever believes in him would not be disappointed for there is no distinction between Jew and Greek for the same Lord is Lord of all abounding and riches for all who call upon him for whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. And so the reason why I wanted to read that because I didn't want to be any misunderstanding or mistake how a person is saved. The person is not saved by proxy. A person is saved by the person at work of Jesus Christ. A person is not saved by a prophet. A person is saved by placing their own personal faith and trust in Jesus Christ. And so what I what I do when I have guests on that that either are professing Christians or even or those that may not want to be identified as that but they they say that they believe in Jesus but whatever. I want to make sure that we all understand what the gospel is and what the gospel is not the gospel is not a person coming to faith in Jesus Christ through another individual unless that individual is preaching the gospel to them by by means of the word of God. And so that's why I wanted to. That's what happened. I'm sorry. That's what happened. Okay. That's what happened. Like I said, my story, you know, just cut things short. You know, my story was a little bit different. But the same thing right here, they, you know, they had a church just like anybody else. And they call people to the altar just like anybody else. Okay. I was with you. They said the same thing. I'll show confess with thy mouth. Lord Jesus, thou shall believe in thine heart. Yes. The same thing. What let me ask you one more question before we before we go on. Could you define or could you explain what is the gospel? Let's just say if I said, you know, Miss furlough, could you could you present the gospel message to our audience today? What would you say? How would you present the gospel to an individual? How would I present the gospel? So first tell them, tell them about the Lord. I would tell them about the Lord. Talk about the Lord. I will talk about the Lord. Okay. What would you say about him? What would you say about him? What will I say about him? Yes. I mean, when I always minister about the Lord, it's not nothing in practice or nothing of me quoting any type of structures. I mainly just say, uh, do you, first I say, do you go to church? Okay. And I just, you know, talked about the Lord, my witnessing, telling my testimonies, it depends on what situation they may be going through at the time. And that's how I approach the situation. Okay. Okay. I wanted to, I wanted to read another description just in case people may need to get a better understanding of it. This is in first Corinthians chapter 15 verse three. The Bible says, for I deliver it unto you, for I deliver it to you rather as a first importance, what I also received that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and that he was buried and that he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures. And note, it's, it's the, it's the scriptures that gives the authority by which a person is saved. And so a person who places their faith and trust in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins and the certainty of eternal salvation, they are saved. They don't have to even walk an aisle. They don't even have to go to a church. A person can be saved right where they are. A person can be saved by watching this live stream. In fact, we had a gentleman who had a person who had a person that was watching this live stream a couple of days ago. Matter of fact, his name is M biz. That's what that was his handle name. And he said that the Lord was dealing with his heart and would not let him rest until he came back on the, on this channel. Don't ask me why he's gone by this man's testimony and, and, and was asked to present the gospel and I presented the gospel to him. Oh, I'm going to get this in that. He found my face one more time. He was asked for me to present the gospel. I did. I stopped what I was doing, presented the gospel and, and by God's grace the Lord, the Lord saved him. And so, you know, our prayer is that he make his calling and election sure. But the reason why I wanted to take time in this, because none of this stuff matters, Ms. Fair Lord, unless we get the gospel right. Unless we get Jesus right. Unless we get this message right. Unless we get the person and work of Christ right. We can do all of these things, but if we have not done the first and most important thing is, is making sure that our spiritual condition, spiritual condition, excuse me, is right before God, then none of this stuff will matter. And so contrary to what people think about me and what people think about me, my focus has always been the kingdom of God and to make sure that people who represent Christ represent him well. May not be perfect, but we strive to represent him well. And so I wanted to make sure that we were clear on that. So, okay. Yes. All right. All right. So, is there, is there, can I ask you a question? Sure. Absolutely. Go ahead. All right. So I wanted to ask, I remember seeing a video of you last year saying something about the Apostles and Prophets. They just correct me if I'm wrong. You said the prophets and Apostles doesn't exist. Martin. Yeah, Martin. I don't, I don't believe in the, in the continuation of certain offices, particularly the, the criteria for Apostles Act chapter one, I believe somewhere around verse 2021, the criteria for an apostle, they must have seen the risen Lord prior, I mean, post resurrection. So when we hear about people claiming to be apostles unless they're 2023 years old, that, that office has been filled. When it comes to the office of a prophet, this person must speak the words of God as though God were speaking directly from them. Is that the same way he did in the old and New Testament? In fact, when those things were not met, then the death penalty was there just, was there just reward? I'm not saying that God cannot use somebody to speak prophetically, but for, but for them to have a continuation of the, the offices of apostle and prophet Ephesians chapter two verse 20 said that the foundation has already been, been laid upon the apostles and prophets and Christ Jesus himself being the chief cornerstone. So the criteria is clear. They must have seen the risen Lord. The Lord must have commissioned them. We see that in Matthew 10. We see that in 1 Corinthians nine where Paul says that he was an apostle, that he was chosen by God. We see that he also in Acts nine where Paul was, was converted on the road, on the Damascus road and, and God, Jesus Christ saved them. And so for, but for me, that's not an issue where I would refuse to break bread with someone. We may just differ, but I wouldn't say that a person is not a Christian because they hold to the quote, unquote, you know, five fold. Some people say five fold when they could be four because a pastor and teacher could be synonymous. But nonetheless, I don't, I don't, I don't really make my determination regarding whether or not people will hold to the five, you know, the five fold ministry or hold to the continuation of all of the gifts being an operation today or not. What determines my fellowship with a person is whether or not they believe in what we, what we are just discussing, what I just elucidated regarding the gospel message. So I just want to be clear. So you just, they, they did exist years ago, but they don't exist now in your, to your understanding. Of course, yeah, according to scriptures from what I see in scripture, I don't see the continuation of apostles and prophets. Particularly, particularly apostles after the first century. Paul was the, was the, was the last man of fact, he was the one untimely born. He's, man of fact, he said, he mentions that here in 1 Corinthians chapter 15. I read it here and now populated to get on the screen so that people won't think I'm just making it up. But let me go there real quick. Well, first Corinthians chapter 15. Again, I read it in context again for I delivered to you verse three. As a first importance would also receive that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and that he was buried and that he was raised according to the scriptures and that he appeared here it is right here. He that is Jesus. He appeared to see for that is Peter then to the 12 and after that he appeared to more than 500 brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James then to all the apostles and last of all verse nine last of all. He says for I am excuse me and last of all as one untimely born untimely born verse eight, he appeared to me also for I am the least of the apostles and not fit to be called an apostle because I persecuted the church of God and so he gives his he gives his explanation of why he's an apostle but he says he was the last one right there in the text verse verse eight and last of all as one untimely born he appeared to me also for I am the least of the apostles. So the last apostle was Paul himself. There's no there's no continuation of the apostolic office as we see here matter of fact you can see in the in the greetings what Paul would say Paul an apostle of Jesus Christ Paul an apostle Jesus Christ but also in a general sense the word for apostle is apostle means messenger. So the most most time nine times out of ten we don't we don't hear that being used in our evangelical circles and particularly our charismatic continuous circles. So here that is basically being something that people are elevated or promoted to there is no promotion from pastor to apostle that's not there that's that's foreign to the text of scripture. We see that stuff being done because people have a have a low view or understanding on on how the the scriptures show the the the appointing of apostles which was Christ himself appointing people as apostles now again you have people who are in a sense like Barnabas but that just mean he was a messenger so apostle just means the one who is sent a messenger it does not mean an apostle of Jesus Christ like Paul in the in the other 12 word. Oh okay. Does that make sense? Yeah I mean I'm listening. Not that you have to agree with it but I'm just just you know providing the script. Yes I can understand what you're saying about the Holy Spirit. Sure. Do you believe in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues? I better believe in the Holy Spirit. Do I believe that tongues is a requirement for salvation? Do I believe that tongues is necessary? No I believe that tongues is a language that was unknown, unlearned by the speaker that occurred in Acts 2 it was regulated in 1 Corinthians 14 I do not believe that it is something that a believer must have matter of fact it was a language and also it was a gift for the building up and for the betterment of believers every gift that God has given every spiritual gift that God had given he didn't give it for us to use on ourselves or upon ourselves he used it for the building up and for the betterment and for the overall edification of the church and so when we hear people say that tongues is a family language that's not what the scriptures teach and Paul is using hyperbole when he speaks in 1 Corinthians 13 though I speak with the tongues of men and angels because he used another hyperbolic language he said though I get my body to be burned we know Paul didn't do that and so you have these examples but does that mean here's what I'm not saying I'm not saying that God cannot do that today where he would send somebody to a foreign country or foreign land and if he wanted to have that individual to speak in a language that they never went in the back of somebody's room and say, you know, Etiboshah Condoleezza Risa, all that kind of stuff that's not learned that's something that God would have to give to that individual and they themselves as Acts chapter 2 said these people are speaking in our known language how is it because the Holy Spirit gave it to them so I do believe that God can do that but we don't see that as something that is a reoccurring thing in the Scriptures but neither would I refuse to fellowship with somebody who does hold to a different view from that so I've heard one of your followers call you a watchman so what do you call yourself what title I'm a pastor I'm a watchman I'm of course a brother in Christ I basically just want to do what God has called me to do but my office is a pastor I had passed to the church for about seven years ended up closing the doors prior to my father in law being sick and passing away but the office I still have that have not been defrocked have not been disqualified by God's grace or anything like that but right now in this season that God has me in he has me to be a watchman on his wall another just simply meaning this whatever the Lord puts on my heart for me to deal with especially now in this culture and this climate I wish more people would be able or were able to speak out so we have now social media censoring our voices even Christians that we may not even agree with all the time censoring our voices to speak the truth you can't even talk about things without being flagged or having your content stricken and taken down things like that but yes I consider myself you know to be a pastor a watchman a person that wants to speak on behalf of those who can't speak for themselves okay so you do believe that God still have pastors absolutely okay you do believe in the spiritual gifts right do you yeah I believe in spiritual gifts I just don't believe in certain ones that like we're talking about tongues that we see in the in the New Testament and again it doesn't mean that that can't happen so I would consider myself a partial cessationist I used to when I was when I first got saved I was a die-hard cessationist but thanks to my wife thanks to my wife she was like okay did you saying that God couldn't do this someone she kept saying like couldn't well can't denotes you know ability or inability so I had to change and amend my position on that so I do believe that God can still do these things but it's not the norm if he chooses to do that God is sorry whatever he wants to do but that's not the norm that I see in scripture exactly I agree I don't see it but you just consider yourself as a pastor but not an apostle I mean a pastor but not an apostle yeah not in the biblical sense no in a generic we're all called to evangelize we're all called to be messengers and that's what the word apostle means but for the for the office itself of apostles that has already been filled according to scripture so I would not hold to that view especially not going on today in today's church no okay okay so just a pastor not a watchman or a pastor I mean pastor you're gonna see a watchman it's interchangeable I mean pastors are supposed to watch according to Acts 2028 we're supposed to be on guard so pastors are supposed to watch so I'm still doing what God has called me to do I'm just gonna have a church anymore beneath there's my office been diminished or calling there so what you do go out and minister right oh absolutely okay because there's plenty work to do out there but here in 3033 it says Ezekiel wasn't also in the watchman yes one of my favorite chapters yeah he was a watchman that's the Old Testament do you still believe in the Old Testament the Old Testament I believe in all 66 books of the Bible 39 in the old 27 in the new okay so the reason why I brought it up because you said something about the office of the prophet office of the apostle has been done away with it's already been filled but here I see you as a watchman and Ezekiel responsibility as a watchman so he's speaking to Ezekiel because Ezekiel is a watchman he's also a prophet but the characteristics of what Ezekiel is doing is what the pastor is supposed to do as well too a la Acts 2028 does that make sense I'm listening yeah I'm listening to you that was my answer the reason why I was saying that because of the things you do on your channel I can't see anybody's comments okay you guys so the things that you do on your channel is really actually like you said the characteristics of the prophet is the things that you do the job that you do is not easy you are actually going against people that are in high places when you talk about Mac Arthur that's a high place to me you know and you're talking about and it's like wickedness in high places and that's a job hey for somebody that not just a pastor you know too many pastors ain't gonna be doing what you're doing that's the reason why I brought that forth I'm sorry can you make your last point again I didn't hear your last point you had kind of muffled a little bit no I was just saying hey the work that you do on your channel mm-hmm how you go against certain leaders this is wickedness in high places mm-hmm right and this is not an easy job for anybody to do but you do it and that's like the characteristics of prophets yeah it's the characteristics of prophets the characteristics of watchmen but it's also the characteristics of pastors primarily again we're called to be on guard matter of fact let me just read it again for those who are so maybe want to get a biblical reference from that so this is Acts chapter 20 matter of fact this is Paul he's speaking to the elders of Ephesus never to see them again and so he tells them in Acts 20 verse 28 notice what he says in the text he says be on guard for yourselves so notice watch yourselves watch yourselves he also says and for all the flock which the Holy Spirit or among you rather be on guard for yourselves for all the flock among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers to shepherd the church of God which he purchased with his own blood verse 29 he says I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you do you see these prepositions he says among you verse 28 among you verse 29 I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you not sparing the flock do you see this he says then again verse 30 another among he says and then verse 30 and from among your own selves men will arrive speaking perverse things and notice the purpose to draw away disciples after them therefore he says again verse 31 be on the alert be watchful be diligent don't get caught lacking be on the alert remembering that night and day for a period of three years he says I did not cease to admonish each one with tears notice what he says here miss Frillo so when people and not you not you not you not you you meaning other folk when people tell me it shouldn't take all that Paul said look I've been doing this for three years bro he said I've been wanting y'all about this stuff for three years he says not just wanting y'all but warning y'all with tears he says God I know they gonna come how do we know they gonna come well Peter talks about it Peter talks about it we find John talking about it we find Jude talking about it and it's from among us what's the key what's the point I'm making not everyone who was of us are really with us that's verse John 2 19 it went out from us for they were not of us well they had been with us they would remain with us but it went out the Bible says that it may be known that they were not really truly of us so I agree with you Mr. Earl that this is not for everyone to do this is not for everyone to do but it's for everyone to do that God has called to do it and so for me God has equipped me to do this do I have my moments where I'm questioning my calling I'm questioning is this worth it my family being weary by this my wife is being like Lord you know how much more of these attacks quote unquote we're gonna take for just saying for what's right if we're not built for it we're gonna buckle and so God has to equip God has to anoint people to do the hard stuff and so I'm not I guess I guess you can say I'm in good company because my Lord he spoke about it the Apostle spoke about this kind of stuff and so it's gonna come with misunderstanding with maligning it's gonna come with misrepresentations, mischaracterizations and so when I say come up I say it for the purpose of having conversations like this even though I'm seeing the ceiling I know that you're here and I can see your hand but for the purpose but for the purpose of people being able to hear my heart or for me to understand what they may be speaking about so I don't say this to intimidate but I do say it to engage and only those who are intimidated are those who are afraid of the truth that's why you had those gentlemen on your channel making these comments you know Ryan Mark Ryan and and T. God and all these all these cats right they know how I get down they know how I move and so people who are afraid of the truth the Bible says the wicked flee when no one pursues but the righteous are bolder than lying I have no reason to run for none of these people that's why I came on your channel and came up with you I even had a problem coming up with the young brother the young man Trey only thing I push back and challenge him on you don't tell me who I'm to engage and who I am to not engage that's God's job that's no one else's job but God he's the one that commissions us in his field and he's the one that tells us when we can clock out and go home that's it so now that we've got that laid out let's talk about some of the clips that we were that brought us here and I'm again I'm glad that we're able to talk about this those who are just joining us I have miss furlough speaks she has a YouTube channel and she basically was willing to come on I have to matter of fact let me just go ahead and get to see you right now this is for people who are not afraid I gotta get it soon at least you calmed up I'm serious now you calmed up you didn't I think I got him I get him trying to get his neck you at least calmed up yeah you at least calmed up and I at least appreciate that and then you didn't let people dissuade you from having conversations like this because again if you are a person that were easily swayed and let astray because of what people may say about me then that shows that we're not able to think for ourselves and so I appreciate that again I wanted to talk about these clips and some of the things you had already apologized about so I'm not gonna beat a dead horse on that but I just wanted for people to hear the context and what we were talking about and what brought you here and so let's get started you ready yes you can go ahead alright so this is gonna be the first clip let me talk about Mr. Seiko before I talk about this lady here and y'all this little Seiko so I know y'all see me a little post up here I got little Seiko Wood over there to the right so Seiko Wood is out here going against Corey Minor so I don't have much to say about Seiko because I did tell Seiko I wasn't gonna talk about him no more that's what I told him I said look I ain't got time for you I ain't got time saying a little some some or whatever he always wanted to say Cam up he always wanted to debate so Mr. Seiko right somehow was going against Corey Minor because Corey Minor Seiko Wood is on his channel y'all know how Seiko Wood is here y'all Seiko Wood I was like Cam up Cam up let's Cam up so somehow I don't know what's going on with him but I watched Corey Minor's a lot more than I watched Seiko the only reason why I saw that video of Corey Minor's in Seiko because I watched Corey Minor so that's the reason why I came up this stream because I'm subtracted Corey Minor's but I'm not subtracted Seiko alright so that was the first two clips that I played for you I know if you wanted to comment on that I know you guys said Seiko always wanted to debate do you yes you do yes you do okay so did you want me to explain do you want me to explain that a little bit or do you understand the reason or purpose is why if you want to say always wanted to because always seems it's more extreme it's extreme but I think I get the spirit behind what you're saying okay are you saying that when you see me you somewhat see me engaging in debate do you consider debate to be a negative thing a positive thing or does it depend on the situation well debating can be a positive thing at times but the way you know some people look at you as okay you know the word you know the scripture for me like you in my opinion I think that you can be well to me I thought maybe you are a teacher of the word because you always put things out here and stuff like that right can you say you are yes I am you haven't seen any of my teaching videos so I'm like okay so that's what I was like okay he's supposed to be a teacher I see debating so much you know and just coming at people trying to prove people wrong and stuff they know that's the way I looked at it so but teachers don't do that they challenge their students and that's the reason why I'm sitting here I'm asking you questions and I'm staying humble because if you have something to teach me I'm willing to listen and that's the reason why I quoted what was it James one yes yes that's why I quoted that so let me ask you this question let me ask you this question then what if I would what if I were to show you I'm hitting my side of the head trying to get this y'all y'all gonna be laughing at me this is gonna be a live this is gonna be funny come smack on my side of the head trying to get this stupid neck but anyway what if I would what if I were to show you in scripture that debating is also teaching and it is also a source of of defending the faith when it comes to issues that are essential what if I were to what if I were to show you that in the scripture what would you say about that okay go ahead and show it to me okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay so let me let me just go to the text then the book of acts acts 15 acts 15 it says some men came down from Judea and began teaching notice began teaching the brethren teaching the brethren unless you are circumcised according to the custom of moses you cannot be saved now this is a new testament church being being now taught Old Testament doctrine that was already fulfilled in Christ but these Judaizers come in and they're telling these these new believers unless you are circumcised according to the custom notice not according to the word but according to the custom of moses it could be the word because moses still was speaking for God but the point is it was it was not required for for salvation and the new under the new covenant but notice notice he says verse 2 Luke records this verse 2 and when Paul and Barnabas had here it is here's his word great dissension and debate with them this was a public issue miss furlough public issue Paul and Barnabas they were getting it in with these men teaching false doctrine and notice what the text says when Paul and Barnabas had great dissension and debate the king james says no small dissension in other words it was serious they were yeah they were what's up so he says when Paul and Barnabas had great dissension and debate with them the brethren determined that Paul and Barnabas and some others of them should go up to Jerusalem to the apostles notice to the apostles plural and the elders plural concerning this issue this was not oh wow did I lose you hold on did I lose her let me see she's here hold on y'all I thought I thought we was let me make sure I get her are you there miss furlough are you there I'm here you must have fell off did you hear what I said I'm sorry yeah go ahead I'm reading the Bible with you okay okay got you got you got you so he says he says they should go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders concerning this issue so this was not a small issue this was an issue that caused division this was an issue now for people to now question whether or not they're saved based on them being under some type of ceremonial law okay now this was not something that was on social media and I'm being I'm using tongue and cheek here in other words this wasn't something that just happened overnight it was settled and done with this was something that was a continual issue there whereas it took them weeks and maybe even months for them to get this resolution to the church to let them know what they are to do let's look at the text let's go further down verse 3 therefore being sent on their way by the church they're under church covering church authority they were passing through Phoenicia and Samaria describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles and were bringing great joy to all the brethren when they arrived at Jerusalem they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders and they reported all that God had done with them but some of the sect of the Pharisees who had beliefs stood up saying it is necessary to circumcise them and direct them to observe the law of Moses the apostles and the elders came together to look into this matter and after they had been much debate notice look look verse 7 was just a small issue much debate verse 7 we heard earlier verse 2 great dissension and debate verse 7 after they had been much debate Peter stood up and said to them Peter's an apostle Peter stood up and said to them brethren you know that in the early days God made a choice among you that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe and God who knows the heart testify to them giving them the Holy Spirit just as he also did to us and he made no distinction between us and them cleansing their hearts by faith now look at verse 10 look at verse 10 he says now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which are our fathers nor we have been able to bear verse 11 but we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus in the same way as they also are he just canceled out what they were talking about under the old covenant verse 12 did it resonate with them better believe it did verse 12 all the people kept silent and they were listening to Barnabas and Paul as they were relating what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles after they had stopped speaking James another apostle answered saying brethren listen to me Simeon has related how God first concerned himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for his name with this the words of the prophets agree notice with this the words of the prophets agree just as it is written after these things I will return and I will build the tabernacle of David which has fallen and I will rebuild this ruins and I will restore it so that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord in all the Gentiles in all the Gentiles he's going to an Old Testament reference and all the Gentiles who are called by my name says the Lord who makes these things known from a long ago therefore verse 19 it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles but we write to them that they are to abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood for Moses from ancient generations has in every city those who preach him since he is read in the synagogues every Sabbath then it seemed good verse 22 then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders with the whole church to choose men from among them to send to Antioch Paul and Barnabas Judas called Barsobus and Silas leading men among the brethren and he's basically just restated what their findings and what their decision was so the purpose of the debate was because of the truth you would never find me uh uh miss furlough get into skirmishes and debate that have no biblical theological essential essence never never look at any video that I have it always has a biblical basis or backing to it it always has something that is either regarding the gospel or as or either the result of the gospel never will you find me getting into these these so called useless uh debates and skirmishes why because the Bible says that that's useless that's fruitless nothing that nothing by God's grace by God's grace when I when I do videos with with individuals that address matters it's always of a spiritual theological essential uh essence people may not may not agree with it that's fine that's that's their prerogative but I don't I don't summon people I don't put guns to people's head to tell them to come over here on my channel people come over here because either they they saw something that they may have been attracted to that may have grabbed their attention they've heard it they're still here others I can't speak for them but anyone who has been a part of this ministry channel they know what my ministry my goal is they know how I move um and they know what they're going to get over here is going to be BCV by God's grace okay so you you are normally on your platform debating uh but the Bible does speaks against debate in some way um but the thing that happened in the Bible was actually a not a sit down on a platform on YouTube and debate this was a real life situation that was going through like this was like hey this was like if me and you were standing before each other it's just like me standing in court debating with politicians you know this was a real life thing this is not a sitting on this wasn't just a sitting on YouTube conversation or debating about the word that wasn't what they was doing like you can call that a good debate but sometimes it can be the Bible speaks of it debate is not a good thing according to what content do you have the context of that and Romans 1 and 29 all right debate is not a good thing according to Romans 1 and 29 do you know the context of Romans 129 and what Paul is speaking about Romans 129 being filled with all unrighteous fornication, wickedness, coveness maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit so what are you saying? That's in a negative context and notice he's talking about he's talking about the unbeliever he's not talking about the Christian Romans chapter 1 is regarding in reference to the ungodly, the unbeliever Romans 2 is referring to the moral Jew, Romans 3 is referring to all of humanity so before you go to verse 29 you gotta go to verse 18 let's look at verse 18 hold on hold on let's look at verse 18 because the context matters because if you're looking at verse 29 verse 18 gives us a fuller context of who Christ and who God is talking about who his wrath is against, his wrath is not against those who are outside of the body of Christ debating the truth his wrath is against those who are outside of the body of Christ those who have the wrath of God upon them verse 18 Romans 1 for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness that ungodliness is the list that you saw in verse 29 and so forth for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth and unrighteousness over issues of truth this doesn't apply to me because I'm not suppressing the truth I'm trying to elevate I'm trying to exalt the truth in the midst of a satanic and cricket generation verse 19 says because that which is known about God is evident within them for God made it evident to them for since the creation of the world his invisible attributes his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen understood through what has been made so that they are without excuse this has to do with the unbeliever there's no atheist quote unquote because God says you know that I exist but you're suppressing it in your heart and in your mind verse 21 for even though they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks but they became futile in their speculations remember he's still talking to an unbeliever they became futile in their speculations and their foolish heart was darkened professing to be wise they became fools and exchange the glory of the incorruptible God for an image and the form of corruptible man and of birds and the four-footed animals and crawling creatures therefore God gave them over into the lust of their hearts to impurity so that their bodies will be dishonored among them for they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served a creature rather than the creator who has blessed forever a man for this reason verse 26 God gave them over to degrading passions for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another and in decent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error verse 28 and just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer God gave them over to a depraved or reprobate mind to do those things which are not proper being filled you see the connection now being filled with all unrighteousness wickedness greed evil envy murder strife deceit malice they are gossip slanderers haters of God arrogant boastful inventors of evil disobedient to parents without understanding untrustworthy unloving unmerciful and although they know the ordinance of God that those who practice such things are worthy of death they not only do the same but also give hearty approval they applaud it they make parades out of it they only not only do they do the same but also give hearty approval to those who practice them so that Ms. Frollo is the context of verse 29 verses 18 through 32 gives us the full orb context of who Paul by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit was referring to he's not talking about that Paul said debating was assumed he didn't say if Paul said debating wasn't sending Paul was sending because he did it the apostles did it Jesus did it strife contentions various sin but when it comes to what you do on your platform there's no need to debate if you are a teacher that's not true that's not true if you get in different situations I can understand you debating in a righteous manner but you're not in those situations right now we all are coming to your platform you come to other people's platform we're not here to debate with you we're here to hear and understand your reasons for serving the Lord why do you serve the Lord we're not here to debate with you we're not here to say and get mad at you the office of apostles or prophets don't exist or something like that we're not here to get mad at you or debate with you I'm just here to learn I'm here to listen because we're all here that's what we're here for to learn more who is God we hear because there's things that's going on in the Word of God that we don't see in reality that we see before us and we all get to learn that's it the issue here is this number one people who come to my channel they get that and by God's grace and some I teach, I engage and debates that have to do with the faith Jew 3, you remember reading Jew 3 go to it there's a lot of strips and so on go ahead speak I'll just pull it up Jew 3 audience in case they didn't want to see this too yeah verse 3 he says while I was making every effort to write about our common salvation I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you here's his word right here contend earnestly for the faith this word contend right here it's in a verb form he says to contend earnestly for the faith to struggle to if you want to use the word to wage war to have intense battle it says to contend earnestly not just to not contend just for contention's sake no contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down for the saints why is Jew saying that he explains it here the purpose clause verse 4 purpose clause verse 4 he says for certain persons have crept in unnoticed notice they came in unnoticed those who were before long before hand marked out for this condemnation ungodly persons who turned the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only master in Lord Jesus Christ he says now I desire to remind you though all things once for all that the Lord after saving the people out of the land of Egypt subsequently destroyed those who did not believe and angels who did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper outvote he has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day and he goes down about Solomon Gomorrah he mentions here in verse verse 8 he says yet in the same way these men also by dreaming defiled the flesh the authority and reviled angelic majesties but Michael the archangel when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment but said the Lord rebuke this is the reason why I tell people quit telling people that Satan I rebuke you Michael the archangel didn't even do that he said Satan the Lord rebuke you verse 10 though but these men he says reviled the things which they do not understand and the things which they know by instinct by animals by these things they are destroyed woe to them for they have gone the way of Cain and for pay they have rushed headlong into the era of Balaam and perished in the rebellion of Korah these here it is verse 12 he says these are the men who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear caring for themselves clouds without water carrying carried along by winds autumn trees without fruit dead uprooted wild waves of the sea casting up their own shame like foam wandering stars for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever it was also about these men that Enoch in the seventh generation from Adam prophesied saying behold the Lord came with many thousands of his holy ones to execute judgment upon all and to convict all the ungodly of their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way you see all these terms and all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him verse 16 these are grumblers finding fault following after their own lusts they speak arrogantly flattering people for the sake of gaining an advantage but you beloved ought to remember the things which were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ that they were saying to you in the last hour be mockers following their own lusts and here's what I want to hang it right here verse 19 these are the ones who cause divisions not me these are the ones he is mentioning earlier worldly minded devoid of the spirit miss furlough that's not who I am I'm not a divisive person matter of fact Paul in 1 Corinthians 11 said that there must be divisions and factions and debates among you so that those who are approved may be made known may be made manifest among you so there is a time and place for these types of things now people don't have to like it but that's like if you have a restaurant I don't have the right to tell you what the change in your restaurant or move the furniture in your restaurant or what to serve on your menu or what to take off of your menu and place you in a position in a particular place in this kingdom then who God is calling you to reach he'll do that and the same it is for me if you also know this too miss furlough you don't find me going out to other people's ministries who don't do what I think they should do have you ever seen me go out to people because they don't do something that I would prefer I'm not gonna I'm talking about biblically I'm not talking about preference I don't care what you do when it comes to preference if it's a violation of the scriptures I have every right to call it and I have every right to expose it when it is biblical when I can show booked up the verse that this is what the bible says and this is what you've done brother sister we need to deal with this when have you seen me go out to people for preference issues can you name one video one so is it possible is it possible that your issue is based on preference and perception and not something that can be proven by the by the parchment's scriptures about you debating I'm sorry about your debate yeah because the base are not seen depending on what the issue is because your debates leave and it leads to strife I'm not the one that's doing that but I'm not the one that's doing that I just read to you first Corinthians 1119 he said that there must be factions among you he said there must be because if you was in a situation where I could say okay you know it's time to debate or challenge yeah that's okay but just being on platform just conversing with other ministers really it's not good can you tell me can you give me an example when you say I'm debating people I guess give me an example give me a video that you are well I don't want to I can't pull up videos but you know like your conversations and a lot of arguments like what who give me an example do I go out and pull these people by the hair well you said Marcus Rogers yes do you know how that happened how did that precipitate he was asking you questions about do you believe the ladies do you believe what the ladies are saying about him and you never answered that question I did answer it I didn't avoid it I did answer it matter of fact I did answer I told him I don't believe him I believe them and I have the receipts to prove that I said that in the live it was probably rambunctious a little bit everybody was talking but it was all good it was barb stop style conversation but here's the thing I made that clear I said I don't believe them I believe him I said I don't believe him but I believe them I don't believe him and that's where he got mad he called me names he called me gay but I ain't the one that got the army picture up didn't he come on your platform yes he came to your youtube he came to your youtube and I thought that was nice of him to do yeah I'm glad he did that's what I'm saying you're not understanding the authority and the power that you have you actually was on your channel talking about him and stuff like this blah blah blah blah what he did but he's initiative to come to your channel so there was something that's here on your channel something he you know cause come on now miss furlough you're missing some key elements hold on hold on let me find this video sure but you're missing some key elements he came on because I told him I was going to bring the women on that I knew that he had been with and here's how I know here's how I know it to be a fact because the baby mama who he has a child by that he does not want to own whose baby pictures I have that I talked to to this very day his his I'm sorry his might be it right here his baby his baby mama hold on let me before you play the video or play the audio here's his baby mama or ex-wife rather inbox me and was begging me to stop going after him because it was messing up her money and I asked her the question hold on is this my point this is why I'm saying this is key this is important this is why I told people in the first video fall back don't rush through any judgment I said I'm bringing these women on for them to give their story and everything that they said the woman who has a child by Marcus Rogers who he refuses to to own and claim she said no you weren't lying about what you said and neither were they this is how he moves he has burner phones he has these things that's why we come out threatening me I'm like bruh bring it because then we can get into discovery and I know you don't want that so he came on number one I challenged in the camp to come on and came up but he didn't want to come on and engage me he wanted to try to intimidate these women and he kind of he kind of won that but I was not going to allow him to continue to disrespect me and call me gay I'm like bruh you're the one who had the army pick up you had the army pictures posing in gay posing in gay photos not me you ain't got no gay photos on me bruh so my point to what I'm sharing with you is you don't have all the information and it's very dangerous when you make statements and you came buttress especially with the platform that you have because actually who's causing the division are you and others we don't have the facts it's not me when I'm defending myself because I have every biblical right to defend myself and it's not me when I engage in debate when the truth is at stake but you would never find videos of me engaging in fruitless debates you may call it fruitless but the bible doesn't call it fruitless and so my authority comes from the word of god it doesn't come by people's preferences or people's perceptions of what they think the authority is this is why I always force people to go back to the text I'm always forcing people to show me in the scriptures show me in the scriptures in context that's why when you went to verse 29 of Romans 1 like no you can't go there you gotta go up because context matters yes I was just only saying you know hey your conversations always end in arguments but notice what you're saying now I gotta correct you right here wait a minute hold on because I was there when I said it that I'm giving these women the opportunity giving these women the platform to share their side to share what occurred what happened to them I made that clear how you how you fools you dummies you idiots we're just getting started that's what I said this is classic example of what a fool do you believe these women yes or no yes or no like I said you are coward I'm glad to get an example I don't believe you you are coward I'm gonna sue you I'm gonna sue this whole lot for slander bring it so that's the video I don't know if you heard it or not I heard it completely I was there when I said it what's the problem your conversations always end in argument but I gotta push back on what you just said can you make any of these extreme statements now when you say all and always okay but again some of you you know when you're you know kind of hey they are they a little heated now so what would you what would you suggest I do when we have wolves and false teachers ravaging the sheep I'm supposed to just lay down no no no no no your approach with the situation that's your approach you are a man I'm saying like if we come on and you invite us on I don't want you to debate with me that's okay for challenging me that's fine but debating but you know we're doing that right now right hold on we're not in strife though we're not in strife we're not but you're defining debating what the scriptures don't define as and that's the point the bible does speaks about debating is not sinful debating sinful debating I just read to you but this is not sin you're calling it sin I just read to you Roman matter of fact you cited Roman's one but you cited Roman's one in context I mean out of context I provided the context he's talking about unbelievers and then I've cited to you Jude 3 1st Corinthians 11 19 you also have 2nd Corinthians 2nd Corinthians chapter 5 I mean 2nd Corinthians chapter 10 we are destroying arguments and speculations so how do you destroy arguments and speculations if there's no debating or no quote unquote back and forth what you consider as negative God considers that as biblical and divine because he's the one that commanded us to do it there are people that are spreading false doctrine people who are being let astray people who are being deceived and if I follow your advice then I would never well because you I'm telling you to stop what you're doing on your platform or telling you to stop anything no I was saying like if you call somebody on your platform like the conversations like you guys be having you know hey what's the need of debating trying to prove each other wrong just you know kind of conversate ask each other questions because we're all here to learn that's what I'm talking about no no no no no no no everybody's not here to learn no no everybody's not here to learn everybody's not here to learn not everybody well I know it but I know it I know it when I'm engaging them because if a person is wanting to learn that means they need to be taught something that they don't know so if a person is trying to come at me and telling me that I'm wrong about something then it is my responsibility to correct maybe they need to approach you communicate with you in the right way I mean it's not just attacking you but it's not even the issue of attacking let me give you an example let me give you an example when I was on your channel you saw how I engaged Montana Viking, Mark Ryan TGOT and Black Hawk yeah is my engagement with them different than it is with you right now yes why is that it's our conversation it's our response it's how we're our approach you know in questioning okay so you're making my point yeah you're making my point you're making my point you know so and let me give you another text let me give you another text first that's along each of the five and I'm going to put it up on the screen you can refer to it on your device Paul says we urge you brethren admonish the unruly encourage the faint hearted help the weak be patient with everyone that's what the Bible says there's three classes of people in verse 14 you have the unruly you have the faint hearted you have the weak you have the weak if I were to misapply and invert and flip and twist that prescription I'm going to I'm going to admonish the faint hearted encourage the unruly rather and not be patient with anybody I've just abused God's people because he says exactly what I'm supposed to do for the individual or individuals that God has called me to engage and God has called me to reach now the problem comes when people think that my approach should be their approach and there we fall into the area of preference again because if I serve food that's spicy and you know that could you sort of sign on the door or like here in Texas they have a restaurant where they throw hot rolls they don't want hot rolls thrown at you don't go to that restaurant because they throw rolls over there they don't put rolls on China plates and hand them to you with a little clover of butter they don't do that if you want to roll your catch game better be on because if it's not you're going to get knocked aside a head with one or you'll never eat why? because they made it clear on their sign it says love the throat roll God has a smorgasbord in his family some food is spicy some food is bland some food is hot some food is not some food has this type of taste to it others don't it's all about what a person's spiritual palette is for now we kind of like touched on this issue but we haven't gone to the rest of these clips and I want us to kind of like get at least a portion of these done because I want you to respond to this and I don't want to take too much of your time but I want to make sure you're understanding that just because your style is your style I have no right to tell you how you are to engage someone and let alone you or anyone have a right to tell me how I'm to engage in so far it is not sinful but if you're saying that all I do or all the results out of is me arguing or debating people that's not true as well either because I can recall several videos that I've had with people that may come in hot insulting me and I sit back and let them talk matter of fact matter of fact let me give you one for example um let me see if you remember this name Royce White I don't remember remember you said you watched all my videos you said that on your live now that was latch but I'm going by you I'm going by what you said I'm not assuming I'm not going to assume I'm going by what you said I watched the ones from last year Royce White Royce White that was last month Royce White was last month that cat came in hot and heavy insulting me I'm 52 I'll be 53 this October that young man is older to be my dependent do you understand what I'm saying he came in making threats I didn't watch it okay so let me ask you this question then I did watch it okay so let me ask you this huh you said I did not watch your videos now I watched your videos you said you didn't so I'm just going by what you're saying I can't assume I'm asking you said you didn't so if you didn't I mean you didn't watch my stuff so if you did then explain to me did I attack that young man or was I attacked this right here come on miss come on miss furlough come on now be fair now let's be fair I know you may have perceptions issues of me we were doing good we were tracking good now let's just keep it real now keep it real you know that I did not attack that young man in that video I was being attacked I'm not playing victim you didn't attack him in the video did I threaten him how do these conversations always some of these conversations end up in heated but that doesn't make it wrong I just gave you scripture sometimes it's necessary for the purpose of people to know the truth okay and I'm not trying to be showing this God is my witness I'm not but you being a woman you may not understand that I wouldn't expect for women to go in like like men do I do understand engagement when you engage in certain people that's what I do every single day conversation where it does get a little heated but at the same time my thing ain't trying to prove them wrong I always you know hey try to find a way to make that conversation come back to a place of peace every single day and trust me engagement is not always easy you gonna come you know hey I don't attract people like that but you know just gotta find ways to break peace at the end no no no no that's not what the Bible says the Bible says as much as it's possible hold on the Bible says as much as it's the Bible when you have a conversation like this but my point is you still try to make a prescription of something that is not biblical okay if the truth is at stake if the truth is at stake that is not when a person is telling me that what they're saying is true when you got people going to hell off of their lives so I would rather have a person who comes in coming in hard with the truth than somebody coming in soft and still lying now I know my style is not for everybody and here's another thing here's a newsflash excuse me Seika I'm sorry I'm not accusing them of having bad motives at all period no I didn't okay so here's what I'm saying we're talking preference now we're not talking about whether I sinned but you seem to make it seem as though it is a sin because it's not the result that you are desiring but this may not be the ministry for you and so my thing is why not apply Romans 14 verse 10 who are you or I to judge the servant of another when it is issues and matters of preference I have no right to come on your channel and say to you Miss Frillo you appear why you ain't talking about John MacArthur you should be talking about John MacArthur you know who John MacArthur is you should be talking about him I didn't want to say that like that no no no I'm giving an example I'm giving an example I'm saying by that standard if you're telling me that I need to do a certain thing a certain way or address a certain person according to your preference what you're trying to make as a precept then there lies the problem because when are people free to do what God has called them to do I mean I don't know if you realize this do you realize how many emails and how many inboxes and how many texts I get from people sharing this article with me sharing this blog with me sharing this post with me sharing this video with me and that first of all it's only me and some things I don't have the time to engage in even though people may think I do I have to do what God has called me to do but what I cannot allow is people to question my motives or to consider what I'm doing as sus as you have said in your video and then there be no response or there be no loving no loving and clear pushback with that and this is why I brought you on because I believe that these conversations are important I believe that it is very important because you have a platform I have a platform we have people in the chat they're conversing they're commenting and the thing that I like about this people in the chat are not coming at each other they're engaging there's some disagreement there's not there's some there's some conferring there's not but people are thinking and that's what we're called to do I want people to not support me because you made a video saying that oh all he does is this all he does is that that becomes a problem and that is also accusatory if you don't have all the facts and that's why I cited the text earlier in the beginning but I wanted to get to some more videos because we are already an hour and a half I'm enjoying the conversation by the way I really am and I think others are too but I do want to provide the basis of why you came on and again to give you the opportunity to the exact video we're going to get to I got 15 more minutes okay which one are you talking about are you going to get ready to play the part where I say something about Mac Arthur was a petto I can skip to it let me let me go there what else are you trying to get to I got a I made clips of your video so I can go to somebody because a lot of me has already been explained let me go yeah that's fine so let me go to okay let me go to let me see here hmm okay I'm going to go to this clip let's go to this one here alright let's go to this one here here we go and then he mentioned in the video y'all I want y'all to go listen to this video that Seiko Wood just put up he called Mac Arthur a petto but he never not one time had on his platform talked about Larry and it's all over social media he not one time now he called everybody else a heretic but he not one time called Larry the heretic not one time he been on Larry's show Larry but I know he see it out here in the front street now just just for the sake of clarity because those some people may not been on your channel when you were when you were saying that's why I played it I wanted to give the context to that you did you know apologize about about you know the petto the petto comment but for the sake of those who did not hear you can you just give a summation what you said so that so people don't you know have make any assumptions about what was said and what was not said I give you the floor on that okay go right ahead you said you wanted me to do it now hold on something happened yeah I'm giving you the opportunity to clarify what you said because you have people that were not on your channel earlier today when you were making your clarifications in your apology so I wanted people that were not able to watch that why does it have no issues huh oh no it's about it occurring because I think it's one of your followers but anyway like I said I actually said that Seiko exactly it would be Ryan but I you know when I said that I did I misspoke right when I said Seiko called Mack off a petto and I just my main concern was why don't he talk about the allegations of Larry you know I you know I was just like hey he's going after these big people you know he's trying to hey go for the way he just go at these leaders you know and I'm like have you seen Larry's show allegations all over social media you know I honestly haven't I have not my focus for the past go ahead you know that was like the second time I said I said it last year and then you remember you asked me you said you told me you said I don't know Larry and you left it as that you never said nothing else yeah I mean but my focus yeah and my focus last year has been the same focus it has been this year and that's John McGrath and again you know and I see what Ryan said and I understand but this is where this is what God has called me to do in this season in this situation is to deal with John McGrath and why because nobody I'm going to say no excuse me they're very few a handful of people that have been exposing John McGrath from a pastoral standpoint I have not seen too many people that either are pastors or have positions of influence or you know among McGrath's community or camp they have not said anything about it and it refused to and so my point is is that you have you have innocent people being being taken advantage of and being abused and so this is my focus it's no it's no different and put it this way if you've been in a hospital there's a term and I'm not a nurse but I know the term is called triage right you know what a triage is right okay so for the sake of those who may not know the triage is there's different levels of emergency right so a person comes in with a heart attack I come in with a paper cut and let's say sister Christina comes in with a broken leg who do you think should get the attention most the heart attack aren't all three human beings are all three experienced some kind of pain some kind of discomfort but that's how it goes at the hospital if you have any chest pains or anything that's also that's that's the first thing they they go to they go to the back so it's not to minimize it's not to minimize the other two but it's the focus on the thing that has more detriment and more damage and more harm to the entire body that's what I'm doing with John MacArthur I'm not saying that Larry read according to the reform community he's a paper cut he's a paper cut John MacArthur is the heart attack John MacArthur is a clogged artery that's what John MacArthur is and so if that's not dealt with then it can cause other people to be harmed as it has already been so it's not to ignore what y'all are saying but that has not been my focus my focus has been this heart issue over here okay so all that you have done on your platform you invited what's her name? Julie Royce Royce R-O-Y-S okay so all that you have done so far what have you accomplished by all that you have said on your platform what have you accomplished what what have happened a lot has happened you have one witness in here right now her name is Ms. Hillary and as a result of the videos that I produced by God's grace she watched him and she came out of him that's just one the thing is here what I'm trying to say is the person you are talking about is Mac Arthur not the witnesses not the people that was abused not the people that was mistreated or whatever the case may be what have you accomplished have you sent letters to his church have he been sat down as a pastor what has happened he won't be sat down he refuses to sit down now remember you were coming to Cori's defense there's nothing so there's nothing happening there's nothing being there's nothing happening to MacArthur because he's the man there's no different than any other cult following anybody else that's an abuser when you're at the top you have people that's going to cover for you you're going to have supporters you're going to have sycophants so do you think what you're doing on your platform is it a waste of time absolutely not if it was a waste of time I wouldn't do it if it was a waste of time I would never do it I don't waste my time in stuff that's not going to have any eternal benefit at least I don't strive to did I waste my time with G Craig Lewis I haven't watched all that no no no I'm asking I'm asking what happened with G Craig Lewis I was into the Mac Arthur and the Marcus Rogers I came in on that the Marcus Rogers situation what do you mean what happened with G Craig Lewis what do you mean what happened with him yeah I don't know what happened with G Craig a lot of his members left he has a new influx of other of new members people who don't know he's been brainwashing but a huge majority of people that were in key positions of leadership and I'm talking about from leadership elder so-called elder because they didn't really have elder that is claimed by elders by name but not by practice but from a leadership standpoint to a to the to the low level standpoint people had left because they resulted in videos and also because of the interviews and because of the written testimonies of individuals who were abused people who were contemplating suicide because of the because of the mistreatment and abuse of G Craig Lewis that had been going on for over 20 years and so what people may consider what people may consider as useless God doesn't and this is why I'm saying if people were to focus on if people were to focus on what God has called them to do instead of focusing on what another slave is doing on the same plantation it would be accomplished because what I don't have time to do is look over my shoulder and look behind me or look around me to see what somebody else is doing especially when I'm called the furrow my own field my field is the ministry that God has given to me and so if I'm telling you how you are the furrow as long as you ain't furrowing in my path we good as long as you're in your lane and I'm in my lane we should be good but the moment you start veering off and causing other people to crash or causing other people to have accidents then it creates a problem for their body of Christ but far too many people want to tell me how to move and tell me how to do what God has called me to do I don't see them doing it I mean, I see no problem with that on that part about MacArthur or whatever but do you believe in God's judgment? Absolutely, absolutely but God also has a means of judgment He uses people in the church to inflict His judgment So why haven't that happened to MacArthur? The same reason why nothing has happened to a lot of people who do this kind of stuff The Bible says, the Bible says because the sentence against an evil deed and the ecclesiasties against the evil deed because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily therefore the hearts of the sons and men are fully set to do evil That's why Alright, I want to ask one more question They're going to be the last question So in the Bible it speaks about giving His prophets to bring judgment when they brought judgment Did anything happen when they brought judgment in God's word? Yes, to some it did to some it was delayed, but judgment did come and judgment also will come Show me one scripture where judgment Jeremiah Jeremiah, Ezekiel Those are judgments when they're in exile So are you saying they were delayed or they didn't happen or they're just delayed? No, I'm saying there was some judgment that were delayed, but it still happened Okay, it happened Okay, that's my point Yes, but the judgment didn't come without a warning first Yes And have you brought forth that warning with like offers? Of course Of course But here's my question Shouldn't you have already known that before you made the comments about me? No, I just asked But I'm asking you Because we're talking about We watch you but I just asked you That's it What I'm asking you now though is when you made the video Did you do your due diligence before you had came to the defense of Corey in MacArthur I didn't come to the defense of MacArthur Let me play this last clip No, the only thing I was saying since you are coming against wanting people to talk about MacArthur why don't you talk about Larry, that was my point I did not intentionally say that about you at the beginning that was misspoken, but that was my only thing Corey and MacArthur, that's your plan The only problem with that was what you said in the video was that I was attacking Corey and that I was coming against Corey sinfully, and I didn't I came at Corey publicly because he's the one that was in sin Last year Corey was defending Eileen Gray and defending Julie Royce for doing the reports, exposing John MacArthur and supporting what she was doing One year later, Corey flips and he did it publicly He was on my broadcast we both were saying the same thing that John MacArthur needs to step down, and then my brother flipped, like a lawn chair like a pancake, like a dolphin and everything he said is like he had amnesia and didn't say it, and now we have people who are confused thinking that, well, it's not that big of a deal No, it is a big deal, because we have souls at stake here So it is very much a big deal Yes So my thing is the reason why I wasn't talking about focusing on Larry Reid because I wasn't paying attention to him It's like I'm not paying attention to a lot of people that's doing some crazy stuff My focus is what God has called me to do Not what other people want me to do If God is commissioning me to do something then I want to be faithful in that because now I'm somebody's waiter going to do this, going to do that No, I'm God's waiter I'm God's bell boy What he tells me to do, I want to do that So do you think that's Cory's focus? Cory Minor's focus is MacArthur? I don't know what Cory's focus is anymore All I know is it's based on the facts that he reneged he flipped and he gave no biblical explanation to do so and now we have people who are confused we have people that are now wondering what changed and if you have more information let me explain if Cory has more information then he needs to provide that he's under biblical obligation to provide it the same way he provided it when he was saying that John MacArthur needs to step down because John MacArthur did not do what he was supposed to do and that's protect these women and these children from these abusers and pedos that's that's my point my only thing is is that if you make a statement publicly and then you're standing on the Word of God saying that then stand on that if you're going to tell people that you changed at least provide some scripture to it and if you can't then repeat You don't know why he did that? No one knows why but aside from the conversation that he and I had that he said that Julie Royce now has an axe to grind she wrote too many articles against John MacArthur that is a weak excuse because John MacArthur's been in ministry for over 50 years over 50 years The articles is just alleged she even put alleged and here's why alleged is just for protection but when you have court documents and receipts it's something to be alleged David Gray is in prison not for an alleged child abuse not for an alleged corporate injury to a child not for alleged child molestation no he's in prison for life for actually doing this and by his own statement of profession his own statement of admission and by witnesses that's why he's in prison and why John MacArthur had funded this man's quote unquote prison ministry with church funds until he was caught and busted is another reason why I don't understand why anybody would defend John MacArthur or those who are defending him that's the reason but let me just share one more clip and then I'll let you run because I want to make sure this is clear as well too because again when you were talking about me why I'm not doing this and why I'm not doing that I wanted to just play this last couple of times I'm about tired of this man out here with this biased mindset calling everybody else a hypocrite but he out here on Larry's channel and he don't, you don't already saw when the apostle rebuked Larry but he don't want to talk about that but he talk about apostle Pagani and what apostle Pagani team had to rebuke Larry come on now and he out here talking about some Mike Todd and nobody know when you talk about Mac Arthur maybe you might talk I might talk just a clown he just run around playing and whatever he got going on this is in my opinion whatever else he got going on use somebody else find somebody else to use so I wanted to respond to that because again this is for not just for you but for anybody that believes I should use or do things according to what they feel you don't tell me what I talk about you don't tell me what I talk about in my own house look look look I know I need to get another microphone y'all ain't right y'all ain't right I just wanted to make that clear go ahead I'm not trying to tell you no no you did no you did look y'all Mr. Zaco got jokes play me okay here we go you don't tell me what I talk about in my own house okay you alright that's okay are we clear with that y'all you see how he did I mean but are we I mean I can't get no clearer than that is that pretty clear for you and others you think I should move how I should move yeah I think I'm gonna hold on to that for a while but you know we if we supposed to be well not we but as we look at you as a person that goes after leaders so I would just expect hey if we gonna do one we need to do all but I'm not captain save a heretic I can't I can't be everywhere at every time yeah I can't I mean that's that listen I'm not omnipresent and I'm definitely not omniscient and nor am I omnipotent I'm just me so therefore I have to do what God has called say go can y'all the woods to do I can't do what other folk matter of fact let me just let me just go let me just go to one more scripture now I'm gonna let you run I gotta put this in here let me go to Galatians 1 let me go to Galatians 1 very quick hopefully what was said in that scripture I got written down to Galatians 1 6 well that's that's that's a different spirit different gospel and now you talking about that right there now this one this one is a I'm going to Galatians 1 here it is here it is right here matter of fact I'll cite it for you verse 4 6 yours says I'm amazed that you are so quickly deserting him who called you by the grace of Christ that ain't me which is really not another only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ that ain't me but even if we verse 8 here it is verse 8 but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to what you have we have preached to you excuse me he is to be accursed as we have said before in case Paul said in case you didn't hear what I say he's gonna say it again as we have said before so I say again now if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received he is to be accursed verse 10 here I am right here I'm gonna hang it up right here we gotta go home for am I now seeking the favor of men or of God or am I now striving to please men if I were still trying to please men I would not be a bond servant or bond slave of Christ I submit to you ladies and gentlemen before I become anybody's slave may God just take my body here because what I refuse to be is anybody's bell boy not gonna do it so what you get over here what you get over here is gonna be spicy food sometime what you get over here and my thing is this I don't even eat I don't like eating spicy food so much why cause I sweat a lot I mean I sweat like a brother in child support court that's how bad I be sweating when I eat hot food but I'm not gonna tell somebody else not to serve hot food if hot food or spicy food is someone else's spiritual palate to eat there are too many people in the body of Christ trying to tell me how to cook man get out of my kitchen and get out of my restaurant and quit trying to call the health board against me and try to have me shut down because you don't like the way I serve my food nobody else has a problem with it and so if no one else has a problem with it then why should you or why should others let's do what God has called us to do let's stay in our lane let's stay in our field let's furrow the ground that God has called us to furrow and we shouldn't have any problems amen hey play that clip again you don't tell me what I talk about what I talk about in my own house there I ain't gonna say he almost got the net oh my god so that's why any thoughts before I let you go I know you've been here for 2 hours now and I definitely appreciate it but I think that will add up for all the time he's on my channel thank you so much I forgot that I speak to Miss Sharon your husband over here your husband over here fighting gnats yes I am fighting gnats and fighting haters I gotta do an old job over here what are you doing okay so I appreciate you guys coming and thank you for so so so Proverbs asks the question he says so Seco are we so we reconcile are we are we good Miss uh are we good Miss Furrow are we good I mean I don't have any problem with you I just do content on certain things that I see that's it okay so I mean so the viewer just wanted to know are we good make sure we cool okay alright hallelujah hallelujah now I'm saying it again y'all know how Seco is see here we go here we go and here we go now tell me what I talk about what I talk about in my own house now anyway listen let people know let people know how they can how they can reach out to you hopefully there will be people that have appreciated this conversation and then when you do your next live you can let people know hey look Seco ain't as bad as I thought Seco ain't as bad you know I may not prefer you know I'm saying so that's good that's good but yeah um I ain't by the way on my clip y'all people want me to keep playing this clip but y'all are wrong oh man yeah hey Diana good to see you sis you said very courageous of her she's talking about you ma'am very courageous of you she said very courageous of you good to see you sis how you guys are doing good good good and for the record ladies and gentlemen be great thank you yes this is how it's supposed to be alright the mob the mob lost thank you the mob lost so they know they're mad and and and good because they were some of the ones that were trying to take nothing come on look testament testimony you'll say biscuits and ketchup naps man look I'm gonna try to get it y'all think I may have Tourette's or something no I don't this nap be getting them a nerve man anyway um but no I appreciate let people know how they can reach out to you miss furlough alright I got the link up as well too on the screen but go ahead okay I know most of you guys already know I have a youtube channel miss furlough speaks you guys come over there join me sometimes and you know hey let's have a good time let's talk about the word environmental moments okay thank you guys I appreciate you for allowing me to come over here on your channel thank you now thank you for thank you again for being bold thank you for coming up thank you for not allowing uh those to influence you to not do what I believe uh godness providence and sovereignty has uh you know has called us to do to be able to reason uh together as uh as this as the prophet Isaiah says and so for that I gotta give you the air horn as well too gotta give you that too oh okay gotta give it to you gotta give I gotta I give credit to do now yeah I gotta give credit with credit is due it's all it's all good it's 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here sister Diana good to see you sis my brother Joy is doing well other brothers sisters in Christ appreciate you all moderators thank you all for holding it down do appreciate that it's Ryan thank you for joining as well if you're still here thank you for coming God bless you as well I'm Ryan I'm Ryan from over the Miss furlough's channel welcome thank you all for for coming in and engaging in a lively respectful discussion I'm just great for the God man for what he has for what he has done but anyway I'm done I'm about to get my get my grub on I'm hungry in the slave been on on plantation I shows is I shows is y'all be careful now you're here don't let nobody get y'all in trouble now cause you're bone anyway I'm out of here y'all have a blessed day blessed evening blessed week y'all know the drill whatever you do you also going out of God God bless