 Welcome to the second day of interview 2021 hybrid, we will be broadcasting live from the exhibition halls in Hannover and reporting on what's going on here. We're glad you're joining us on the digital platform. Every day you'll find out what you need to know to stay up to date with exclusive interviews and videos from the event. And at the same time you have the opportunity to switch to the individual area such as the conference or the expo stage depending on the ticket type. If you have any questions or suggestions or just want to chat, feel free to chat in the networking section of the digital platform. And in a few minutes I'm looking forward to my first live guest in the studio, Matthias Mott from Phase 1. But at first we will start with some insights into the conference and Günter Knappel with Christiane Saalbach, managing director of Intergeos Organizer dvw and spoke about the conference highlights and today's focus on BIM. Christiane Saalbach, yesterday the Intergeo 2021 was successful, especially the opening was impressive, but also the first day of the dvw conference, international, yesterday also English spoken, but also with German references, how is it going on today's Wednesday? So today we are lighting up the chances and also the added value of geodata on the one side of the conference. So you can find out, for example, which current geodata infrastructures or which state the geodata infrastructures currently have, but also how the further development can be achieved on the urban data platform. And of course it comes mainly on the data management and on an efficient digitalization. So you can digitalize a lot, but you have to digitalize efficiently. That is just a very important factor to finally get to the goal and of course to build the digital twin for urban spaces, but of course also for rural spaces. In total, of course, it is also very important to see how it is in the European context digitalization. I give a keyword GDIDE, which role does it play? So the GDIDE will of course also be covered in the European context. There are, for example, keywords like Inspire, a project that has been going on for a long time, but of course also Green Deal. We can not only look at it in small spaces, we have to look at the European one, GaiaX as another project and, for example, the PSI guideline. BIM is a keyword that has always played a role in InterGeo. You have also mentioned the digital twin in this context. How far are the developments? So, when talking about BIM, we talk in the middle of the week. It will be our BIM day, let's say. We start with very exciting discussions and also information for everyone who is interested in the topic of BIM. We have, among other things, in the panel discussion, which presents the start in this today's BIM day. For example, we work on how smart cooperation can work with building, with planning and building. But that also works only when everyone shares their roles. And I think that's still an aspect. We can all work on it a little further. So, a exciting day, the BIM day and more, you can almost say, in the VW conference. So, exciting aspects. And we'll see you again when we go to the Donnerstag. Exactly, thank you very much. And now I'm glad to start with my first guest live here at the InterGeoTV studio. It's Matthias Motz. Welcome and good morning. Good morning. So, you're Vice President Emia at Phase One. So, thanks for joining InterGeoTV. And Phase One is a Danish company with branches in Germany, use A-Japan and Hong Kong. And you told to my colleague that Phase One's roots are in photography. But please introduce yourself in a few words. So, what you're doing exactly, because you do much better than me. Yeah, so Phase One, as you said, is a Danish company, headquartered in Copenhagen. The roots are really in the professional photography, in the development of digital bags and digital camera systems. And I think 2012, we started to introduce our first aerial camera for the geospatial market. And since then we have the two divisions, let's say. We have also a third division where we focus on cultural heritage, where we digitize old archives, images, pictures, whatever. So, and these are still our three main divisions of the company and main focus areas where we have our business. Okay. What is special to present this year at InterGeo to who, to which kind of area audience you're looking for? Well, we have two focus areas in the geospatial world. We are very much focusing on the classical aerial cameras. We have components for aerial photography. We also have aerial systems. And our latest product, which is called the PIS 880, is an oblique camera system for aircrafts, where you can gather 3D data, oblique imagery, so you can have the stereo photogrammetric models, etc. This is one focus area. And the other one is we have a drone camera, where we have developed now a brand new gimbal system, active gimbal system for inspection tasks. So this is called a P3, phase one P3 camera system. You can mount it on a rotary UAVs. And there you can do inspection tasks for power lines, for dams, for bridges, for whatever you want to see. That's our latest product. Yes. Thank you very much for that overview. And I guess I think you told to my colleague that you're also specialized in forestry and agriculture. So what are you serving there? Yes, we have a foreband system, which is used for near-infrared mapping for forestry and agriculture. But we also, and this is due to our high technology, highly advanced technology, we can really gather millimeter resolutions. And if you think about things like crop engineering, for example, where you want to really see the details. This is the camera you would use for it. Wow, you can see it in one millimeter. Yes, yes. And the good thing is due to the high resolution, you can go up to 30 meters or so, instead of five, six meters with a normal camera, which you can go shop in the markets. So it's safe and you still have this very high resolution. You have a good productivity. And again, especially this crop engineering is a very new, let's say, application where it's a high focus on the market. So this is a pretty nice application, yes. Yeah, that's great. And Moritz, what do you think? We are here with the visitors. We are in the exhibition halls in Hanover because Intergeal last year was only on the digital platform. So this year we really have a stage. We have audience. So what do you think? How's the vibe? People coming to Hanover? Are there good conversations at your booth? Just summarize how you feel here at Intergeal in Hanover for the people who are just joining us on the digital platform. First of all, I have to say it's a very good restart of being at an exhibition. I'm positively surprised. So it certainly is a little bit more quiet than usual in the past, absolutely, no doubt. But I think it's a good restart and it was really good to see the community yesterday. We had pretty good meetings already. So we had meetings prearranged, which was great. But also we had always traffic on the booth. So it was not too bad. And if I compare Tuesday with Wednesday, where usually Wednesday is much more, I'm really looking forward to have a great day today and to see what's going. But yes, we are positive and we are happy that we have decided to do this. It's always an investment. So we have to talk about money also when we do such shows because we want to do it right. And yeah, we are positive, absolutely. And we are looking forward, especially then to next year's full speed in the cheer again. Thank you for that statement. Thanks for being here and joining us also here in the GTV this morning. And I wish you many good conversations. Thank you. And yeah, thanks for joining us. Thank you for inviting us. And we continue with an interview with Andreas Zinnig. Yeah, that really depends on the area where you're looking at. That means where on the world you are looking. In the Nordics, I think they are very digital already. If you go further south, it will be different. Same with the size of the projects. Large size already have a lot of in, a lot of portion in the digital part. And smaller sites are still done very, very manual. So if it's about the level of digitalization, it's really an very early phase. So it's quite different from the buildings. In the buildings industry, we already have digitalization since several years. If you think about the PIM approach for the infrastructure, it's quite new. So that's due to the fact that handling infrastructure data is far more complex than handling data from a building. Okay, thank you very much. So you just mentioned a bit, but what do you think are the biggest challenges the industry is facing and what opportunities do you see on the horizon when you have a look at the future of the construction sites and digitalization of the industry? So the challenges today are, it's a several challenges. One is definitely to bring all the different data in one common environment. So we have data from different sources which need to come together. That's a problem because the data was not designed for that. So it needs definitions. It needs common exchangeable data formats which can be used. That's one thing. The other thing is education. So we need the people on site being able to work with these procedures. So that's a question to the education. So will coming engineers will have the capability to use this data to really to proceed and move forward with these projects? That's something I think will be key if this can be successful in future. And for the next steps we'll be really finishing the first project in a complete digital environment. That would be my dream really to have one project managed on a complete digital platform. I think that's a little bit far in future. It will not happen immediately but as soon this has happened I think we are at the stage that we can handle digital construction site in this kind of form. That seems clear to me that you need the skills of the workers and you need the education of the new systems, of the ecosystems and regarding connected data and so on. I have just another question. So talking about the geospatial industry what can the geospatial industry contribute to this development in this industry? We had an interesting conversation this morning after the keynote and after the interview there. It was about where's the role of our geospatial industry in this environment? I was talking pretty much about infrastructure but to me the surveyor with his specific knowledge is one of the most important one in this process because he has the knowledge how to handle coordinate systems which are the base for all projects. He has the knowledge to provide accuracy to these systems and I think the geospatial professionals they have to bring their knowledge in and position them as one of the key persons in these projects having the knowledge to make the foundation the foundation for the data and that comes from the cadastre that comes from the surveyors in the field that comes from the construction company the survey is here really the central element in this. And what role does new technologies like machine learning or the so called artificial intelligence do play in that context? So this comes in when it's about data analysis. So today you have the classic stake out work you have the classic data collection but we see more and more the industry moving to mass data collection so mobile mapping system gets used imaging, so remote sensing so you get a huge amount of data which you cannot analyze any longer in a manual way and for analyzing these data you need assistance from the IT technology and here is where artificial intelligence machine learning, deep learning algorithms come in to interpretate the data and to deliver the results which we are no longer manual are able to take out of the data. Andres, let's have a look at this year's interview which was forced to one year break due to Corona, so last year we made on the digital platform this year we are here in Hannover in the exhibition halls and yeah, so how is the vibe and your view or how important is this industry gathering for the geospatial industry or for the construction industry to really meet in person this year on this date? So to me as I am participating in the GeoData since 1991 which is 1992 in Hamburg it's quite a while, I've been at every exhibition. So you have a good overview? Yes, I have a quite good overview. To me it's the 10th interview. So I was really missing this because it was always the event in the year where we met people talk to people which we usually don't meet during the year of course we have customers where we have close relationships but it's like a family and if you don't see the family for a while it's not that nice. So I was really looking forward to meet people here in person I had no expectations because nobody can tell us how many people are coming it was clear that it's not an international event as it has been before and we would like to get that back but at least from Germany I think we will have the ability to talk a lot of people So perfect, we are at the end of this interview so that you have enough time to enjoy intergeal and to have good conversations and meetings Thank you very much, Andreas Sinig. Thank you for the interview. I'm sure you know intergeal's social media channels like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook or LinkedIn and there is one colleague in my team who is responsible for that this is Lennart Preuss and Lennart is also this guy who is visiting at the digital platform the exhibitors, the boothers and talks to them what's new, what they are presenting so we're excited who's Lennart going to visit today and we will take us on a virtual tour on the digital platform Lennart, good morning. Intergeal community I'm back here in the hall 23 together with the whole intergeal communication team and now I will show you the digital platform so I hope you can see my screen right now looks perfect after you log in you will see this welcome platform of the intergeal digital and there you will find a few of the basic informations but normally I start here with the networking so in the morning I see oh I sent myself here but when you scroll down a bit you can see all the morning news the highlights from exhibitors the highlights from friends and colleagues and after that I try to check out the expo stage because there are a lot of cool lectures I think lots of news and there's the opening will start in I think 10 minutes so yes that's cool and super easy to see and to watch the old lectures and when you click here on the conference button and you have the right ticket for the DVW conference you can click here and can watch all the conferences and my own highlight is here the expo button when you click on the expo button you will find here all the highlights of the big players and even a lot of smaller companies and then I click on the view the list and then you can see all the exhibitors and for example I will click here on the all set GmbH and then you can see their profile like you are used to from Facebook or from other social media things when you scroll down a bit you will find here the room there are a few companies they have more rooms or different rooms but if you click here on enter the room you can start a video chat with the experts from this company and that's my job that's the thing I do normally so later in the day I will visit a few exhibitors will show you different experts from the intergeal out of the digital booth and yes I'm super happy and look forward to the intergeal life and digital here in Hannover and now I will give back to Denise and wish you all a good day Thanks Leonard for that overview this morning and yeah I just checked we have about six lectures at the expo stage today so you should check right now the program here at the button expo stage you can also join right now the conference which will focus on the topic BIM building information modelling later on in that day we will also talk to Ilka Mai who is a real expert in BIM and we will talk about what's new what state of the art so stay tuned and see you later