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Rwy'n cael ysbry hi'n cael amsig, i wnaeth iawn i faswn i gyntaf gyda'r drwyddi, rwy'n cael yma, ond tyn ni'n gallu ar y busun. Rwy'n cael ei sydd yn dda ac rwy'n cael amser. Rwy'n cael amser. Rwy'n cael amser. A dyna'n gweithio, yma'r ffordd y mae'n gweithio'r ffordd ar ddigon nhw, yma eich dyfodol! Gwyaeth hwnnw, Llywodraeth, yw'n gweithio'n gweithio, yn fwy gwirionedd. Efallai'n gweithio, yma'r yma'r Ysgrifennu Moitai, yn ym 100 ffai, yn ym 100 ffai, mae'n gweithio'n gweithio, mae'n gweithio, yn gweithio'n gweithio. Mae'r gwahanol cyffredig. Fy oedd y cofnig? Mae'n gweithgwyd y galler i fyny rydyn ni. Gweithgwyd cyflym am ddechrau arall. Dwi'n maerwch ar gael i'r ddechrau a gael i'r ddau. Mae'r ddechrau'r ddaf, dwi'n maerwch ac yn llawnau.foreign. Mae'r ddanach yn yr aedd am gael i'r ddechrau'i â'r ddiddordech yn eich ddechrau. A'r ddau sy'n gaer i'r ddau yn hyn ymeu sydd gennymul. Mae'n hynny'n cynnangoddol arall i'r cymdechrau. 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Rydym yn olodyd, ddim yn ei b 스트�afai, yn successes y myf przech y Gymraeg yn gyfer lleiol, gan phlyd i'r designers a bly crude a yn dal hynny'r cyrch continu. Ewch wedi'i rhoi heddiwyd yr tiffaith. Arfod oos hyd yn wneud hyn. Mae gennym yn bwynt, pan yn gallu ym eureann. Pwy отwyl hefaf maen nhai yn yr Maes Ti, ac mae'n windows CFF-9. yn ei cypleasedd. I started in this gym when I was 13. I weren't too mischivous when I was younger. I was always getting into fights and stuff at school. I would never bully or anything like that, but I would always get ended up in fights and stuff. I used to play football at quite a decent level as well. I played up until decent level until I was about 17. I'd trialled at some decent teams and had scouts watching me from Leeds, Bansley, Sheffey, Wednesday. But that got put on the backseat of my football as soon as I walked through the doors when I was 13. My cousin who brought me down said, why don't you come down and try Thai boxing? It would be good for your fitness for football and stuff like that. It's a bit rough round here. If you don't have a fight round here, you'll get eaten alive. I thought, I'm going down a little bit of extra work and stuff. The first day when I walked in the door area, I think it was about 1999 or 2000, I saw some of the guys sparring and I thought, that looks decent. I loved it straight away, but he wanted until about a month in when I got to spar for the first time and I was like, fucking hell, this is brilliant. I was only 13 at the time, but although I'm a midget now, I was quite big when I was 13. I just stopped growing when I was about 14. I did. I would get inside to spar with the men fighters and stuff like that. Even though I was getting kicked up and down at gym, I loved it. It was amazing. Are you any fit and blood in the family? My dad and my grandad were a bit rough and ready, but my grandad on the other side, he boxed in army a little bit, but I'm like the first. Well, my cousin brought me down on the house and he's five time world champion himself. So he'd started it just before me and we came up together. He's about six years older than me. So we came up together and we just, whenever he were getting fight at a good level, then I'd be chasing him a bit, then I might overtake him and eat him with that. So it was good having family who were at a competitive level as well. So we were all puffed like competing against each other. So if he got a bit fitter than me and started beating me up and sparring, I think, shit, I need to fucking up the game a little bit. Because you matured fast? Because at 15 you fought a man at, was it 28? 28, yeah. How did that come about? Was that allowed? No, because what happened was when I started my first fight pro, pro, when no padding and stuff like that, well I got paid for it, I was 14 and we used to lie and say I was 16 because there was no one around my size and as strong as me who were 14 years old because I was really big from that age, do you know what I mean? So it was a week before my 15th birthday and I got matched with a guy called Martin Shivenen and he said, oh, we'll say he's 16, he's 16. So we went to the weigh-in and at the weigh-in, I remember him weighing in and then he jumped in his golf GTI and drove himself off and I thought, he fucking is 16. But he turned out to be 18 and I was 14 and I knocked him out in first round. So after that it was just like there was no way I was going to be able to go back to fighting anyone around me in 14, 15. So we just carried on lying about my age saying I was 16 and then I ended up fighting the 28 year old, I think that was my second fight and I stopped him as well. So by then there was no way I was ever going to come back to fighting people around my age, I had to just fight grown men. Who were your coaches and stuff then? So Richard Smith, I've been with him for the start at the very beginning, he's been my coach for 22 years now, I've been training. Did he see the potential on you straight away? Well yeah, what I was doing is I were here every single night. I used to be the first one here, as soon as I finished school I'd come to the gym and I'd always be the last one, I'd be on the bags after the classes, ended and stuff, just practising and trying to get myself better and I think he caught on to this and thought oh this guy's working hard, he started to take me under his wing a little bit and doing a bit of extra work with me and stuff and then eventually he just said do you want to start coming in the mornings, we'll get some with the other fighters and stuff like that and this one before had a fight. I said oh I'm at school so what I was doing is some days I was going to school, I'm a dinner hour, I won't have any dinner hour, running up here because it's only five minutes away getting a little session in with other guys running back to school and he just went from there. So it's like you just loved that passion for it to be, when did you move to Thailand? That was young as well was it not? Yeah so with that I'd made a career, I'd been fighting mainly Europeans and I'd fought a few Ties who were good fighters but they weren't the elite level Bangkok Ties. I'd had about when my first 29 pro fights unbeaten and I'd beat a lot of good Europeans, I'd beat some good Ties but not elite level Ties. So I was 18 when I fought my first elite level tie, I'd been to Thailand for three months before this and I'd fought there but not in like the big stadiums because there's two stadiums in Thailand. Pini, Roger, I'm known, these are where all the elite guys go to fight. So I'd fought some decent level fighters but not the elite. When I was 18 I'd just got back from my first stint in Thailand, I went there for three months and I didn't get the chance to fight there. I fought in Japan so I flew from Thailand to Japan and I knocked a guy out in round two but when I knocked him out I brought my hand. So I had to go back to Thailand for like a month and I didn't get the chance to fight which is what I wanted to do, I wanted to fight in the main stadiums. I came back home and I said oh we've got a real top level fighter coming to England, we need you to fight him. I said oh no problem, I'd gone 29 fights unbeaten, I was young, I was cocky, I was photo bully proof. I brought his tie over, he'd had 150 fights, never been knocked out, he'd just beaten one of the biggest names in Thailand but at the time I was just thinking alright, I think I knocked 20 people out of my 29 wins unbeaten so I was just thinking it doesn't matter, I'll stop him, it doesn't matter. Round two I went bang, left duck, dropped him like a sack of shit, I thought oh they're knocking him out. He got up and I'll never forget he looked across the ring at me, he didn't have a gum shield in him, he had blood all over his teeth and he smiled at me and went like that and I thought it's never happened before. I thought he'd usually stay down, mate he got up and he fucking destroyed me, he batted me, honestly it was horrendous. Round three, four and five because it's a five round fight, he absolutely wiped the floor with me and the beating I took in that fight. I showed good art and I lasted till the end, I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid if it had stopped me because he ate me with some disgusting shots. I remember after the fight I couldn't walk, I was pissing blood from where he'd been needing me so hard around my kidneys and stuff like that. I felt like I'd been in a proper car crash and after that I thought right, if this is how good these guys are at this elite level, I can either stay here and pad me record out fighting the Europeans, I can probably get to 50 fights and I might not have lost or I can go over there, learn how to fight, how they fight, mix that with how I fight, live in the gym, do what they do, train how they do and then I'll be able to mix it with them at that level. How was it with your first loss? It was tough because like I said, I fought a bulletproof, I had a lot of knockouts, I fought at a good level, I fought some good fighters but not the best fighters. It was tough to, it was a tough pill to swallow because I had quite a big following at that time when I got a bit of momentum behind me, everyone was saying, he's going to be the next big thing in this and then when that happened, especially going into the elite level, I questioned myself a lot of thinking, is that how it is at this level, is this what it's like, am I good enough at this level? And it was like a bit of a back and forth battle, it was like, what are you going to do about it? Get yourself into Thailand, learn how to do it, how they do it, stay in the gym with them and at first when I got there, it was fucking awful because I said to the coach, I trained at a gym called Jitty Gym and I'd been there for three months before, but when I came back, I said, treat me, how you treat, there was some top level stadium ties there, I said treat me, how you treat them, I said I want to do what they do, so I were on a mattress on the floor with them, just living in the gym like they did, every morning getting put to a stick, get up, go run, come back and the worst thing about it at the start was a foreigner in their gym, all they wanted to do was just fucking beat me up every single day, a foreigner here is pretty talented, he's good, would you fucking need to put him in his place, so what they were doing is on the mornings, were getting up and you got to do 10k, run round the park, I was going to the park with them, I was running round and I was watching most of these, get a bottle of water, pour it on the red, walk back to the gym like they'd run, so when I'm getting back to the gym I'm already tired from the run, they weren't tired at all and they were just fucking kicking shit out of me, so that was tough but about two or three months in when I had a few fights, I had a few knockout wins and I started to win the respect a little bit of them then so they eased up with that type of stuff there. How was the different training from UK to then go to Thailand, is it total night and day? Yeah, I'd never experienced how it wore until I actually went there and did it, it was a shock to the system, like the heat, the three hour session in the evening, a two hour session in the morning, like I say over here, I do maybe an hour in the morning and then two or three hours in the night, but in that heat, even the run, the 10k run there were just fucking wiping me out at the start of it, the heat, all the other amazing top level fighters just how they do everything, it was just a complete shock to the system, so the afternoon session will be, sorry, the morning session first, get up, 10k run, you come back, you do a little bit of bag work, maybe a little bit of pads, not too hard, bit of clinch work or a bit of light sparring, afternoon, you either skip for 30 minutes to warm up or go run and do a 5k run to warm up, come back, then you've got seven or eight rounds on the pads, hard rounds, straight into sparring, straight into clinch work, straight onto the bag, straight onto some conditioning and this is six days a week every day, never getting a day off and they try and break you to be fair and that was tough, and there were a few times in that I questioned myself a little bit thinking, am I doing the right thing here, what the fuck am I doing, do you know what I mean? Did you get paid for that just to fight? Just to fight, so I went out there, I saved a little bit of money from a fight I had had in England, but I was only 18, 19, so I didn't have much money at the time, so it was either fight regular and keep the money coming in or go back home, so what happened was after about six months I got sick of being in the gym, I got sick of me mattress on the floor and stuff like that, I just fucking couldn't do it anymore, so I got a little apartment next to the gym and I had to pay rent on it, and that's when it came down to basically fighting to stay there, if I couldn't fight to pay the rent I had to go back home, so I had to keep fighting regular, I had to keep my body strong, I had to stay fit and I had to stay ready. How was your family thinking when you decided to take the leap over there? What many British fighters went over there and trained then? Not at that time, no. My mum and dad were all being really supportive, even when I was in school and stuff, I was walking around school and I was paying no attention because all I was thinking about was my next fight and my dad was always really fucking supportive, massively, I fought in Japan when I was 17 and my dad flew out there with me and he came with me, so my mum was being the same to be fair, so they massively supported me. I remember when I went to live in Thailand though when I moved I was seeing a girl earlier, I've been with her for about three years and when I realised how much I needed to get out there and train with these guys to compete at their level I just went around off to live in Thailand, I'm sorry, three years. Priorities? I feel a bit bad about it now when I look back about it and thinking because I literally did just go I'm off to live in Thailand, I'm sorry, and left. So how did you end up a man becoming one of the best fighters on Muay Thai, eight world championships? How did that come about? Where was the first one you won? So it was just before I went to live in Thailand and won my first one. That was under kickboxing rules, K-1 style rules and I took it on three weeks notice, I fought a guy from Italy, yeah really, Naples it was, I went to Naples, so I took it on three weeks notice and I went out there and they didn't have to try and fuck me around, so I got out there, 19-year-old, weighing about 62kg I had to be, they had all TV there and everything, it was like a big deal for Italy. I jumped on scales, 62kg bang on. They go, oh, your opponent will be here in an hour, he's late, he's in traffic. So I went away, I had steak, I had pasta, I had rice, I had two litres of water, filled myself back up, I had a big massive bar of chocolate, not the best fucking diet after I weighed in but I was on the young side, I had a big massive bar of chocolate, I have proper gorge myself. Opponent turns up, jumped on the scales, 64kg, I thought you need to be bang on weight, said go on and lose weight, they went, no, you can't lose weight, you look bad for TV. Said I don't give a fuck if you look bad for TV, I said I'm just weighing at 62kg, get him on weight, said it's a world title, you have to weigh him bang on, you jumped back on the scales, I said I'm going to be fucking heavy, I said I'm just eating, I went, well if you're heavy, you're going to be the same as him. I said I'm just weighing at 62kg, and I was fucking arguing with the three ages and so on my boss and stuff on the next day, looked at him across the ring and I thought why the fuck didn't I make him lose weight, I said he's massive and I think I'd had I'd only had 23 fights at the time and he had 70 and I think why the fuck did I just make him lose weight and I remember the first time he hit me and it wobbled me bad and I thought shit I've never been hit this hard and I kept kicking his leg and kicking his leg and kicking his leg and in round four eventually he just turned his back and turned away and I thought the ref to stop it and the ref didn't do it so I fucking ran across the ring and I booted him straight up his ass all crowd started booting, the all started throwing bottles in the ring and everything and I thought oh shit I thought am I going to get disqualified here so Bill went and I stood in the middle of the ring I went to the ref and raised my hand, I stopped him and he went oh no no, he went round talking to all the chudges and I thought I'm going to get fucking done here but eventually the raised my hand and that was the first one. How was it then? So I used to love the film kickboxer see your shins must be solid it's a myth when you kick trees over there you'll see videos when kicking the bamboo trees is that fake? yeah, all you need to do to condition your shins is kick the pads, kick the heavy bag like the bags in Thailand the full of sand and shit like that the fucking rockards, you don't need to be kicking anything else over there for people who've just maybe seen a couple of things but don't know the rules of my tie, is it two minute breaks when after each round so in Thailand you'll get five rounds three minutes, two minute break in Europe you'll either have a minute or a minute and a half usually because over here there's not a big gambling culture the two minute break over there is for the gamblers in the crowd so the fighters can get all their energy back and then it's going to be like a close even fight again over here we don't have that so maybe you'll get a minute rest or a minute and a half I thought I'd have left that over there mate if it was me gamble mate when I was out there on my Instagram of the day what I did while betting on myself for extra money and sometimes that were really good and I'd fucking win a bit of extra cash on myself but there were a time I'll find a Roger I'm known one of the biggest stadiums in the world massive fight How many people are you talking on these stadiums? There'll be a couple of thousands in there but when a couple of thousands gamblers are all in there the atmosphere is unbelievable like the first time I ever saw it I was like fucking hell this is amazing but yeah I'd bet on myself and the whole gym had bet on me and he said do you want to bet on yourself? and I said fuck yeah I want to bet on myself and this was a rematch the guy had beat me already but I was so sure I was going to beat him and around I bet all my rent money and everything all my personal money I said bet it all I said I'm going to knock him out and round three I went bang lift hook wobbled him he'd gone out on his feet I ran in to finish him off and he fucking kneaded me as I threw a punch so I'm breathing out and I went boom and I went oh no no just gone I sat down at the end of round three and all ties went why aren't you finishing him you had him then I went I'm fucked By any broken bones have you had? Quite a few I've been looking at that and never had that many bad injuries because it looks more extreme than obviously boxing because you've got the gloves but UFC and stuff it looks ruthless a ruthless sport did you ever think about taking the leap to UFC? A lot of people asked me about this and they said why have you never done no ground never have you never done no ground but I've always been so obsessed with Muay Thai that I've never wanted to do anything else I've said to you before and I said I think you can only be good at something if you love it and I've never really loved the wrestling or the groundwork because John Jones I know he's Muay Thai and Dan Tau who's a good friend of yours How long have you known Dan for? Since you were about no about 15 down here we've had a few fucking dust-ups in here I'll slap him around but I reckon if he got hold of me now he'd be like when Hulk runs low king of injures he'd just smack me around He's a good lad mate He's the exact same guy now he's when he was 15 He'll be world champion I think he should take the leap and he was talking about going to Dubai I think that would be good for him and it's difficult in your home city especially when you're such a high celebrity now and everybody's want a PCU If he got himself in Dubai where he's just only training he'll be a fucking fought in that position he's already an animal which needs that little bit of extra push and he'll be desperate You're on the Joe Rogan show and you're training with Joe Rogan people they see that he could compete he's that good at his kicks and fighting How was he training with? I couldn't believe it when he fucking I put the pads on and he kicked him I literally could not believe how hard he kicked me 35kg of just fucking solid muscle so when I put the pads on and the first kick it fucking rattled from my feet all the way up to me I was like oh my god he's very very powerful he's unpredictable he can kick them pads but he's done Taekwondo for years he's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu he openly says he won't pass a piss test so he's a solid solid guy so he takes stuff he openly says on his podcast he says I won't pass a piss test I think he's talked about doing growth and shot a test and stuff before he openly admits it he looks like a machine he's 50s anyway but he smokes the weed and drinks I think a lot of big John Jones drinks smokes a lot of fucking weed as well a lot of them like DL's brothers and people like that when I ever done it when I got yoga because Joe Rogan said to me go hot yoga in the hot room get stone before and he said you can feel every fibre in your body stretching so that's the only time I'd done it these guys do it and then go training I couldn't do that you've met some characters as well through your career if you're looking back and like he says before you think you're coming to the end what would you do without it well I think I've got about how long do you think you've got another three year left in me I'm 35 but I still feel strong I'm on a good winning streak at minute How many feats? I've won six in the last seven at the minute and I'm still fighting at the best level there is so I'm still up there with the top guys the only fight that I lost was against Is that the Battle of Britain Kingdom one? No that were a tie called Rodlech over in Shanghai and he's just fought for the title at my weight division so he's obviously like elite so I'm still up there he goes fight I had with him so I think three more years left I don't want to go to the point where I'm past it and everyone's going what's he doing still fighting because too many guys do that I feel faster I understand my body better I know when to have a rest I know not to push myself into the ground and run myself into the ground I understand my body better than ever at the minute but it's been a bit of a struggle to get my speed back to after having so long off in lockdown but I'm getting back there my body feels good again Who was the guy you were on Joe Rogan with the hit my therapist or something Who was he? You see a lot of videos with him So that's Vinnie Shawman me and him have been friends for about must be going on 20 years now and he's always been involved in tie boxing he had his own gym and stuff like that so I've known him through that and I never believed in it and he used to say do you want to do a bit of work and I could see he's getting bigger and better and working with famous people and stuff like that and I said I don't think I need it I've always thought I was mentally strong I've always believed that I don't need any extra help and he said do you want to do it and I said no and I fought a tie called Anawa in Jamaica about 2009 he was the most prolific puncher I think probably in the last 25 years massive, massive KO ratio and I thought ah sorry I don't matter I'll beat him fought him in Jamaica got smashed to fucking pieces and it was the first time I'd ever been stopped and again coming back to that the first time I ever lost I was like fuck me what happened then that's never happened before and again it were a battle trying to fucking overcome thinking am I not good enough am I this, am I that am I not as good as I think a bit of a mental battle going on in my head and I begged the promoters over here I said bring him to England please and I know I can beat him so I brought him to England and I fought him at the MEM arena and Vinny said do you want to do a little bit of work and I thought you know what there's no harm in trying to get my mind as strong as my body and I did some work with him and it's so hard to explain because it'll be different for everyone but what he did for me he instilled a word into my head the word warrior and he said to my coach in between rounds call him a warrior and he went in some sort of fucking weird state of mind that I've never been in ever before it were it's hard to explain but if you watch the fight you see me at the end of the fight I schooled the tie MEM arena thousands of people there my biggest one in my career by a mile still is to this day my dad's birthday and I jumped on the ropes afterwards and I said to Vinny because he was commentating and I said thank you mate and he said I'll never forget that I went to the after party still buzzing I was in this hospital all night I had a really bad concussion and I didn't even feel it in the fight anything didn't feel rocked didn't feel hurt at any point and I had to get smashed to bits like I did in the first fight and then to be in a mind state that I was in the second where nothing hurt but then I still ended up in hospital that were a testament to how good he is at what he did and how good we gel together that's madder like I said I didn't fucking believe it how was that part of me I did take some stuff over there because obviously you hear people after a fight that just get left outside, is that true as well? We've got a fucking story where that happened but these were in China I fought in a place called Zengzhu I think it was called in China and I fought a Thai champion first round it were only a three round fight so I thought I'm going off to go for this first round I jumped into the fucking try and knock him out I held him out on the elbow I fractured my eye socket, dropped meydda'r lleu'r gweithio a fydd yn defnyddio ac yn medda i'w ddim yn ei gyfnod fe yn lwysead o'r hanes oherwydd mae yn llwyddo'r. Fe ses y ffordd o'r ffordd a gen nhw'n gweithio sy'n jambol fel hyn sydd yn teimlo. Mae'r gweithio gen i'w hir. Mae'n gweithio hir hefyd. Mae'n dwy'r dweud, ac mae'n athwi, mae'n mwy oedd amdano, mae'n zedlau o ffordd o'r hynna. Mae gweithio hir hefyd o'n meddwl. Mae'n hwy yn dweud gan gofyd. Llef me out there and I thought I must be coming around the ambulance or something. There were two big fences either side. I had my gloves on still so I couldn't jump over them. They left me out there for about an hour and a half and I thought I would fucking die in a first. And I was thinking what is going on here and I only fucking got back in the building because my trainer came and looking for me and he came and he found me and took me inside and then stitched me up and I was like what the fuck are you doing left me outside? I went oh no ambulance should have come and got me and said no one came and got me and just fucking left me there. How are you treated over in Thailand and stuff in Japan being a British fighter? Do you get more respect over there? Do you get more respect or is it hard because you're not one of your own? Japan is a weird place to fight. They're all just sitting in silence. So like in Thailand you've got all the gamblers going absolutely fucking mental. Japan is sitting in silence so it's weird. It's definitely silent. You may as well just have no crowd there. It's a weird experience fighting there. But in Thailand that's what I wanted. I wanted the respect of the gamblers. I wanted the respect of all the promoters and I wanted the respect of the top level fighters. In the two years that I was there I had some good fights. I fought some of the top rank guys. I had some good wins. I had some good fights even when I lost. As long as you fight hard, you show heart and you give a good fight, whether it's your blues by a bit or even your win by a bit, the gamblers love that. If you're fighting close fights they'll love it. My style is power I've got to try and knock out every fight. They enjoy that. As long as you've got a good heart they'll warm to you and you'll get the respect. So you've had over 100 fights? That's a lot of fights. That's not including all the sparring and shit you've done. What's the sparring like over there? Is it just like a fight with some of the Thai fighters? Like I said, when you're a Westerner in their gym with them, they want to prove a point. It's their gym, they live there and you're like an imposter. They want to improve their imposter but you've got to prove that you belong there. Like I said, at the first they were always trying to put it on me, trying to break me, trying to bully me a little bit. But then once I got used to the heat I started to make a name for myself. My confidence was going up. I was obviously improving because I'm sparring with these guys and working with all these trainers. It started to even itself out a bit and eased off a little bit then. But the sparring usually over there, when you're kicking and stuff, it's nice and light. It's technique sparring and play sparring. You'd be doing it fast but you weren't hitting each other. But then when you do the boxing sparring, you get the big gloves on the headguards, that's just a fight. Because you look at UFC now boxing. Boxing has always been an elite but I think UFC is on par. Do you know why I believe that's taken over? Because the best fight, the best and the fucking boxing is avoiding everyone. You can go 25 fights unbeaten and you won't have fought another top rank fighter. UFC now is just like these the best, he's the best, getting there. See I like that, there's only one belt as well. There's only one belt with boxing. You've got four, five, six belts on divisions. That's why we haven't seen like Joshua versus Fury yet or other fights and that because they're fucking too busy defending other belts and stuff like that. Too much money involved. Why do you think Muay Thai hasn't got moved up the ranks as fast as UFC? Even though everybody loves combat sports and that is one of the most ruthless, if not the most ruthless out there, everything. It's a lot more now, it's a lot bigger now. What they've done is, one championship have come along. They've took Thai boxing, they've put the best fighters in the world in MMA gloves and they've changed the rules a little bit so it's a bit more fan-friendly. There's no like traditional dance before it. It's called your Y crew or your Ramaway, just like paying respect to your teachers and stuff like that. But a lot of people over here, when fighters start doing it before the fight, they don't want to see that, they want to see a fight. So a lot of my friends were paying money for a ticket. They don't really appreciate it, they don't like it. And they think, what the fuck is this, getting there and just fighting, that's what we want to see. So a lot of promoters over here now, they're cutting that out. But this one championship, what they've done is, they've put all the best fighters in the world in MMA gloves. When you've got how good stand-up strikers in Muay Thai are, they are the best. They've put them in MMA gloves, a lot of knockouts are going to happen. So that's what they're trying to do now, they're pushing it more to like there. So it's going to be more fan-friendly, smaller gloves, shorter rounds, more explosive. If we'd have done this a few years ago, I think it would be up there with MMA now. But it is slowly getting there. It's just a shame. I'm coming to the back end. I've still got a few left in me. Have you ever seen anybody being killed in the ring? Muay Thai, no. No, not in Muay Thai. I've seen some horrendous chaos from elbows and head kicks and stuff like that, but I've never actually seen anyone lose a life and never heard of it. I've heard of it once in Thailand. A lot of disqualifications on it. Do you know what some... Sorry, your challenge is because it's fucking freezing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of... There is sometimes because another rule set is a certain rule called a continuous movement. So if I catch someone's kick, I sweep him onto the floor. As he's falling, even if he's hands touch the floor and I kick him in the face, that's legal as long as I've done it continuously, but you'll get some fighters who'll sweep, stop, give it a second, then kick them in the face, and then that's where a bit of controversy comes in, because then we're continuous, we're not continuous. Do you know what I mean? There's a lot of corruption in Muay Thai, same as boxing's corrupt as fuck. In Thailand, the gambling, there is, yeah. There's a lot of... People taking dives. Yeah. And what happens sometimes in Thailand, you'll see if it's on TV and stuff like that, the referee will just stop the fight and send both the fighters from the ring, and that'll be if he thinks someone's took a bribe or not, if he's not going to have a proper fight for the gamblers and stuff like that. So you see stuff like that happening all the time. So the lefts have got to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll see fighters who get drugged before the fights and sometimes end up in hospital and stuff like that. No, because it's always the gamblers trying to get like a step ahead and stuff like that. So there's a lot of stuff like that that goes on. It's rife. That's bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how did you end up winning eight titles? Did you ever dream of that to be the world's greatest at Muay Thai in one world titles? No. I always used to set out small goals at the time. So the first title I won were like a Northern area title. Then after that, I wanted to win a British, then a Commonwealth. I wanted to do it that way. But what happened was I won the Northern area title after about six fights and then I didn't fight for any other titles even though I was going through the ranks and I wasn't fighting for any titles but I was still fighting champions from France, Spain, Italy, all round Europe. Started fighting ties and now fighting ties and I'd still not even won any like a British title or like I had surpassed it all without fighting for it. And then my next fight after that were a world title fight. So like I didn't get the chance to fight for these titles. I just jumped straight to from area in English. Got me saying rank number one in England and then went straight to the world titles and I think I won my second one were in Thailand and that was massive. That were live on Thai TV. A lot of gamblers there. I fought the current champion and that was probably one of my most favourite memories. You gambled on yourself before but were you doing it a lot just to get by and get some food and pay for your rent? Yeah, most fights, yeah. So if you lose, you're fucked? Well, like I did a lost, like that fight I was talking about before where I bit my money on myself. I didn't bit on me. I lost the fight. I had to go fight again three days later to get some rent money. So the gym owner said to me, he said to me, Liam, you've got no money, what are you going to do? I went, I need to fight again. I was fucked as well, James, honestly. My shins were in absolute bits. I was just in agony and I thought, oh my God, I don't want to do this. But I flew from Bangkok to Phuket and Phuket, the fighters out are strong. Like the Bangkok guys are fucking machines, terminators. Phuket, they're good fighters but they're not top level. So I went down there, I fought very luckily because I remember I kicked him in round one and when you got the adrenaline in your fight, you don't feel anything. I kicked him in round one and I thought, fuck me, that hurt because machines were just battered from the last fight. Do you have a few anything in your shins anymore when you're kicking or do you still feel some sort of thing? It's weird, it's like someone triggers in your head and it's like says, that's going to work after. But like another time, not really. My last fight, I put a video up on me on Instagram over there. I split both machines horrendously. And that was the only time in a fight that I felt it really hurt because I split them both after the fight. Went upstairs and talked to him, oh don't look at this and I looked at it. He could see me born in machine. I thought, oh no. So how does that, how do you get back from injuries so fast? Do you know what? I never understood how to look after my body when I was younger but like now I do a lot of cold cryo therapy stuff like that. I eat healthier, hot yoga. Obviously the older you get the more prone you are to picking these injuries up. So all through my twenties I didn't really do anything to recover afterwards because I was just getting away with it. I was eating what I wanted. I wouldn't stretch in, I wouldn't do anything. I was just having my fights, I was training hard and then my body was just recovering itself. As soon as I hit 30 that went straight out of the fucking window. As soon as I hit 30 mate I was just like fucking walking around like an OAP after training and stuff and I was thinking shit what is going on here. So I started to like learn about my body a bit more. I started doing stuff like hot yoga, more stretching, better diet, cold therapy, cryo therapy. Because the hot yoga that was actually we were speaking to Ella, Sean Wright from the grip house in Glasgow put me on the hot yoga and some killers in that gym as well, grip house. We were speaking to Ella with Jojo Calderwood I think she's in America doing a UFC. Yes, it's a small community like the Muay Thai gyms. The boys in them are so nice and when we were speaking to Ella like I know a lot of loud people people pretend they can fight and they're always loud and think they can do this but you see these boys and you wouldn't think anything but they're proper fucking killers. It's a small community round. The UK has a lot of gyms open. There's a lot of gyms. It's quite a big community but we all do know each other and stuff as well. It is like every single gym knows every other gym. And like you say there's a lot of the talent pool here now in England is huge. There's some of the best fighters in the world I believe in England now but like you said they're all quiet and unassuming nice down to earth guys and stuff. There's no real dickheads and there's no like trash talk and stuff like that in Muay Thai really because again it's like the best just fight the best and you don't really have to Do you're talking in the gym? Do you're talking in the ring? Yes and there's because there's not like a massive TV and stuff like that there's no need for all this trash talk and stuff because you're not trying to sell the fight to anyone it's like everyone in Muay Thai they already know the best and they already know what's what so you don't have to try and sell it the best fight the best and then that's just that Who's the up and coming England what did you say? There's a kid called Jonathan Hagger he's 22 and he's just bounced onto the scene and he's fighting of all the best ties he's on one championship and he's fucking like really really How does that make you feel do you feel it's okay I'll show you does that fight excite you a young kid coming through up and coming does that remind you of yourself about that willing to fight anyone Yeah mate 100% there's quite a few like that as well but he's like the one who's just the only one at the minute who's bounced onto like the elite level and he's fucking in there like with the best the best of the best now so like in England now I probably said it's me and him at the same level and he sometimes he jokes and says he's coming for me and stuff like that but I'll be always be ready I'll always be ready mate That would be a good fight then Yeah yeah he's the way to me a few more fights a couple of years he's the way division below me but um yeah maybe any different weight divisions have you fought in so I've won my world titles from light weight light welterweight and a welterweight so I'm a free weight world type free weight so you have a grip again Do you know what I've done stupid shit like that before I did it against the the one championship champion of the world is a tie called Petch Morricott and I took a fight against him on two weeks notice at 70 kilos and I was fucking lighting him up big time and then in round two mate eat him with an elbow and you fucking floored me the weight I'm my last fight were at light welterweight which is 140 pounds 63 kilos this fight were at 70 kilos so that extra it's a stone so when he ate me with that elbow I went down I got up and beat the count but the ref waved it off and I fought to myself at the time for it and I was fucking a stupid idea though it was a stupid idea Is there a certain number in your mind time? How many fights you had had all in 120 or what was it? 160 160 Is there a certain number in your mind where you go okay I'll have 140 maybe 150 How many fights can you do in a year? Do you know what when I was younger I would do in about 10 fights a year no problem but right now with the injuries and stuff like it's the fight camps that take it out more out of me now than the actual fight itself because when you're training that hard I was just doing it non stop when I was younger and then I'd fight a few days off back in the gym fight again three weeks later I won't picking up injuries when I fight now the way I fight as well because I'm fucking always trying to KO everything I throw is full power I might fight now and I'm going to have to need a month off afterwards I'm just fucking lading a bucket of ice I reckon I can still do four or five fights a year now Another world title I'd love to fight for the one championship world title that is like the pinnacle at the minute that's where all the money is that's where all the people all the top fighters are it's a massive audience I think I need one more big win and then there's a possibility that I could fight for that title that's what I want to chase but I've got to chase something you obviously know what you're doing you've won that many fucking world titles Josh's Warrington as well you know Josh yeah good friend Josh another world title contender I will not contender he's won the belt now he's a world title he's a world champion amazing I love Josh to bits very underrated I always say it I think he's now this year he'll go right through the ranks Josh I think once he goes to American stuff he'll become the superstar that he deserves to be he's an absolute animal interviewed Carol Frampton yesterday he says he was surprised that he's punching power well in that first round we talked about it early didn't we cos I went to that fight and I couldn't fucking believe it because everyone had wrote Josh off against Selby he did a job on Selby everyone wrote him off against Frampton first round mate he rocked him right to his boots didn't he came out like a bill how was it how do you get celebrated down here have you got a good support I have actually I have whenever I fight in England I always take quite a few a few guys with me and stuff like that but it's like the the stadiums in England you might get like to Yocau he's the main promotion guy called Brian Cowell a friend of mine he's Glasgow guy from Glasgow he's the main promoter in the UK he does all his shows in England but he's Scottish he might get 5,000 in there it's not a lot it's a lot for Tywalkton it's a lot and they're the best shows in the country by a mile the atmosphere the fight it is brilliant but obviously like what Josh is getting he's filling the arena out he's got so many and the Leeds fans are behind him and stuff he's got so many fans in the world we said earlier when he goes to Vegas we'll all go 100% he's the next level Josh is well man I'm rooting for him rooting for yourself is well man everybody I've met from Leeds are sound as fuck they're crazy bastards and the Leeds fans are fucking crazy but not fans in the world like the Leeds fans mate 100% these are nuts so going forward then I know you're trying to hang on for the next three years to get world title shots all that stuff how have you been going through lockdown I struggled a little bit to be honest because like I said there were that void there that I couldn't fill and fighting is a drug that nothing else on earth can compare to and I missed it and I got a little bit down at some point tonight and I probably did my misses I didn't like moping around house and stuff but I was lucky like I had other stuff to keep me busy like we mentioned before the clothing my training website Liam Harrison training and stuff like that they've all done really well and I'm financially in best place I've probably ever been but even with that moneys and everything you've got to do what makes you happy and nothing makes me happy other like fighting does like I said it is a drug mate honestly nothing can compare to getting your hand raised at the end nothing compares to what you go through in fight camp especially when other fighters in gymmering fight camp and stuff as well the buzz everything about it I've just missed it and I'm glad we're getting into back a bit of routine now just so we can Are you scared to retire? I am mate I won't lie here I fought about it a few times and I I don't know honestly I worry for my missies because she'll be one looking after me and nursing me back to some sort of mental help but you've been doing that over 20 years staying in gyms working hard producing the goods becoming world champion it's a phenomenal career so obviously you don't want to let it go it's a big void in your life that is like it's a healthy addiction that is an obsession massively I am obsessed with this sport I am obsessed with the lifestyle I'm obsessed with training I'm obsessed with fighting I'm obsessed with wanting to like push myself and stay at this top level and like I said earlier I'll know when it's time to let go from the top level What will you know though? Would you have too much play to let go? When these young kids like my last four or five wins have all been against young up and coming kids who are good fighters and they're all trying to make a name for themselves and I've slapped them all back into place when it's time when I lose these fights where I should like that where I should win I'll think you know what that this one have happened a few year ago I'll know to because I don't want to embarrass myself I don't want to be one of these guys who goes on for too long who just lets it go too long you lose your legacy you lose your reputation you lose everything you've worked for and I've seen it happen to a lot of guys and there's a lot of guys out there still doing it and I think what's he doing just retire just he can't need money that bad What is the age normally for Thai fighters and Muay Thai to quit? In Thailand because by time these are like 25 year old they've had 300 fights What? Serious mate I remember my 100 fight in England everyone made a big deal out of it because I think there's only two of us in England who've had 100 fights is me and I think him and Barlow a female fighter everyone made a big deal out of it and my opponent were a Thai from Thailand called Singdam and they asked him in the interview said so Western are you fighting is this 100 fight what do you think about that and he went I had 100 fights I don't know 15 That's what he's fighting that's what he's reply and I was like I feel really shit about myself now a cheaters mate but yeah So again yeah it's difficult because you see boxers coming back in their 40s if you want to retire then I think it's okay you hang up the gloves kind of then but you're struggling with the mental health side of it being fit all the time and then you're getting those natural chemicals your serotonin and dolphins a dope I mean all the healthy chemicals that make you feel good when you're not training do you slump and feel depressed kind of thing I slump mate I feel like shit like what happened to the first lockdown war I fought the week before the lockdown happened and that's when I'd split machines what happened with that that I got a botched job done by the paramedics afterwards it was fucking disgraceful what they did to me they glued machines up terribly strapped them all up and said right don't again wait for six days don't take the dressing off for six days after six days I took the dressing off you can look at this on my Instagram I put a photo up of it about three four days ago I took the dressing off and the wounds were just wide open I went to the hospital and they said to me this is the worst glue job we've ever seen so they had to scrape all the fucking glue out without no anaesthetic or anything it was horrendous pain they scraped it all out stereotyped it put it back and said right you're going to be not going to make it do over here for about a good month so the lockdown happened I couldn't run couldn't do any sort of training I would just sat around for a month and then the lockdowns kept continuing both my legs got then got infected so I had to keep going back to hospital and getting tablets and stuff and antibiotics so by that time that happened I put weight on I would just sit around I looked to myself like mirror I go fucking hell six well eight weeks ago you just had a fight you ripped to death you were in great shape you were on a good winning spree now look at you that shit you've let your son go couldn't go to gym honestly I was depressed as fuck and obviously I had like me my clothing brand and my website and stuff like that to work on I'm glad that I did have the time to work on these things because they have gone really well but in between doing that I just couldn't stop thinking about fighting and I was wanting to train I wanted to go run but I couldn't because of my legs and by time I'd all healed up and then by time the gym was open back up it took me it felt like I was starting from scratch again and there weren't any way back up but it's good that you're getting your clothing brand in place now like if you know you're maybe coming in an end in three years it's good to have those things in place because by the sounds of that you need to keep busy or else I admit honestly I'll be in very very big trouble if I hadn't got somewhere to I get obsessed with stuff and that's what tieboxing has been like when I used to play football I wanted to be the best in the team I wanted to be the best if I were just like an average player I'd probably want to have done it I get obsessed with wanting to be the best and then I obviously had the scouts watching me when I was younger and stuff but then tieboxing came along and I got obsessed with wanting to be not just like the best in the gym just the best that I could be and I wanted to fight the best and I used to just walk around daydreaming about being the best at it and I get like that so hopefully when that day does come and I have to retire I've got the clothing I've got my website because I want to be the best coach my training websites that's flying I've got like 13,000 members worldwide on that which is like a really good number and I want to be like known as one of the best coaches as well as the best fighter because there's not many who are doing both at the minute there's not many who are doing as many seminars as me who also fight at this top level who also got time to train other fighters and stuff so when that goes I'll put all my energy into coaching I reckon but at least I'll have the clothing brand Other things to work on What's that seminar? What do you mean by that seminar? So basically over gyms they will pay me to go to the gym and just do usually two hours and I will just teach all my favourite techniques which I use when I fight, when I train just to help me get to that level it's all my favourite techniques it's like Liam Harrison style mootai basically How many techniques are there in mootai? I've been training 22 years and I still learn everyday mate obviously it's called the science of eight limbs so you can kick, you can punch, you can knee you can elbow then there's the old clinch work which is an art form in itself because if you can't clinch you can be as good as you want outside the clinch but if some tai champion comes and grabs you around your neck and you can't clinch you are going to be fucked because they are so strong and they are so like it's a completely different art form itself there's so much different stuff going on inside the clinch just to stop them clinching or to stop yourself getting elbowed or to stop yourself getting thrown on the floor and it's so tiring obviously the MMA guys are the wrestling Do you do stuff as well? Yeah, they judge it soon if you've ever done anything like you know how tiring it is locking on and crappling with someone else so that is one of the main things it will take you years to get good at just clinch work on its own then there's all the sweeps then there's the throws then there's the endless So is it tiring? Do you go home tired after a heavy workout? Yeah, it's exhausting on your body that's why the looking after yourself now I've got a bit older comes massively important in a way because not only am I doing all this I'm doing my strength and conditioning and stuff as well and the explosive weighted stuff got to run to keep my weight down the pad work, the kicks, the sparring it's a lot of... your body's not meant to take all this shit you know what I mean so yeah, I go home like physically physically exhausted some nights Where's the best place in the world to fight? Where would you love to fight before in the next three years? Where's the place that stands out to you? I'd love to fight in Vegas Do they have fights in Vegas? Yeah they do, yeah I think from onth Street they do it not from onth Street, the big strip they have outdoor shows I'd love to fight there but one championship where I'm signing to now they're going to America I think over in the next couple of years so as long as I get the foot down and get over there before I'm too old that'll be I'd love to fight in Vegas mate but the only thing I worry about that is I'd probably just fucking spunk on me and fight away just as I got out of ring metal and I'm not too sure for it Mrs won't be happy So amazing career everybody knows your name in the fight industry plans for the future are going forward I know you've got your clothing brand so would you ever have your own gym? We spoke about this early didn't we again for some like this I think there'd be so much pressure on me because of how well my career's done to produce my own fighters I'm not sure how I'd feel about that I love teaching my seminars and I love being a freelance fighter If I had my own gym I'd do a lot of seminars always abroad so I'd do America regular so I can just go out there and go for two, three weeks and I'll go around all different gyms there If I had my own gym I wouldn't be able to just get up and leave and go to America for three weeks and I'd need someone running it I'm not sure I'd trust anyone running it because like I say I get obsessed with stuff and I'm a perfectionist when I'm training I make sure everything's done properly I train hard I'd want all my fighters doing that If I left them for three weeks at a time of stuff and they'll want doing that and I came back and I liked it or I wanted it I don't think I could it's just too tough I'd never say never but I love doing my seminars I love being freelance but we'll see, you never know What's your best knockout you've ever had? I've had 48 in my career so I've had quite a few good-ins I'm renowned for hard punches and hard leg kicks so I did a really spectacular one on one championship last January I dropped him with a left duck and then I dropped him with an elbow and he probably should have got waved off and then it was really poor referee and to be honest because I dropped him again afterwards and he were out for about five or ten minutes so that were a good in I've had a lot with leg kicks I'm renowned for stopping people with my leg kicks I fought a guy called Andre Colbin about six years ago 18 times world champion he wore he had I was fighting at 63kg at the time he was fighting at 67kg he'd come to England twice and he'd knocked out the number one and two at the weight above me and then when I got matched with him everyone wrote me off and said that guy's too big he said he's too big he'll beat Liam and everyone wrote me off and that fucking fucking motivation and I told everyone the pre fight interviews and everything I said I'm going to stop him I said watch me stop him and I stopped him with leg kicks and that's on YouTube you can watch that one that's absolutely fucking tenderised You get excited knocking someone out is that a throw for you? Yeah I love to fight I love to fight It's like a fucking licence to kill basically when I tell you the one Yeah like I said I love to fight and I love to be involved in life if you've seen any of the clips on my Instagram I always fight hard and I love to get involved in wars and stuff like that there's no fucking better feeling I've come out of the ring sometimes against some of the best fighters in the world when I've lost with my face covered in blood but it's been an exciting fight and the fans have loved it and that's what I fucking buzz on I see myself as like an entertainer a gladiator like as long as the fans are happy I wouldn't lose or draw whether I'm the main event or whether I'm just fighting on the undercard I want everyone to come out of that arena and go fucking out of Liam Harrison's fight can you believe how good that fight was people come to see me fight because I want to see a war or I want to see someone get knocked out and that's what I would that at this stage in my career when I've done everything that I wanted to do now I want to make sure the last half first half of my career for me the last half is for the fans everyone who pays money for a ticket everyone who stays to watch me fight when I'm fighting abroad everyone gets the app to watch it who stays up late when I'm in another country this is for them now I want it to be exciting for them I want it to be exciting for everyone who's paying money for a ticket and stuff that's what I want to do I want to be an entertainer having your own worst knockout I've only been able to have stopped once to the head and that were against that fucking giant who elbowed me headoff That was my own stupid fault I was on a 2 weeks notice it was in December as well so I've been on fucking piss because I thought Christmas was coming up I won't really fit and they just rang me and said do you want to fight I said I won't make way and they went no I said the way above Did you fight anybody any team anywhere that's what I've done in my old career I've never dodged anyone I've fought the greatest fighter of this generation ac roeddwn yn llawer i'w gwlad. Ond rhai, nid ydych chi arna rhai a'ch bellach rhai. So, rhai, ydych chi arna rhai a'ch bellach? Mae'n byd i'n mynd i'n byd. Rhyw gwerth gyda'r gwlad sydd ar ôl tuwr. Rhaid? Mae'n byd i'n mynd i gwybod. Rai unrhyw roi'i een cyff婆 o erbyn a'ch yn rei nifer. Rai 28 ffaii gyd yn gynghor� yma. Mae'n byd i gan gynhyrwyd yn gyflywyr yn eich hwnna. Rhyw gwerth gyda'r cyffwysg, mae'r gwahan palau ond. Dyna'r gwahan yn gobeithio yn cael ei wahan i bwysig gyda du, mae'r gwahan yn cael ei wahan yn cael eu bhymru bod roedd yn 50 a 58 o'r llywau, mae'r cyflith yn ymgyrch i'r yst precoedd. Wedyn fe ydy'r gwahan yng Nghaerdydd? Roedd rydyn i'n meddwl nid yw. Go ti'n meddwl am dda. Efallai i dnowr eich gymnewu. Mwysig ymdda'n eu gofyn nhw. Mae'n hyn yw, ac erbyn datblygu i dyn nhw. Rwy'n teimlo i'r byd. I mi wedi cyfnod yn siŵn. Rym ni wedi gwheVEN a wedi gwneud. Lliwb yn ôl yn sgwrdd fferdig. Rwy'n mynd i chi i dda, ac rwy'n meddwl i ni'n siŵn. Mae'r dŵr yn ei wneud jaeth. Rwy'n meddwl y gallwch chi'n mynd i hoffi. Roedd chi'n meddwl SeeR. Mae gweinio'r ysgolion mewn gwasanaethol, ac ei gwasanaethol mewn gwaith ffain, a'r ffaini hwnnw ac mae'r gwneud i chi i erbyg. ac rydy会w, ac rydych chi'n meddwl i'w teimlo i'w gyda'u byddu. Yn ymarfer, mae gen i'w beig ac yn y bydd i'w mwyaf. ac rwy'n i ddim yn gwir i게wn i hyn. Rwy'r mwyaf, mae gen i'w dim fel eich cwnnerru. Mae'r wych chi i rydych chi, ac rydych chi'n meddwl i'w hyn i gweithio? Mae gweithio! Felly mae'n meddwl i'w beig, mae gweithio, mae gweithio i'w meddwl i'w meddwl i'w meddwl i'w ddweud yn y gweith. Yn ymwneud arwain ar hyn o syniadau cylen gwahaniaeth. Mae gynhyrch, mae ein cyflogau yw bod yma. Gwylio'r adrodd. Mae'n amlwg dim yn ei charn gwrthig sydd wedi'u wneud. Mae'n tannt yn ein ffasgol sy'n digwydd pan mae'n ffasgol yn fân. Mae dylwn. Mae'r ffais na eich cyflogau. A oedd dod y gallwch chi yng nghyfryd gan y modd. Mae eich rhai IeYsig, iechyd, fairy, mae'n arhaen i… Maen i chyrgydd. Mae os yma'r fforddio am hyfforddor'i hyffordd o'ch dfodd draws ond y maes o'ch hun. Rydyn ni'n meddwl dda'r ddechrau am gy verklen. Ond'r rhan o'r rhan o'r backer o'r lliol, mae rhai o'n gyllidiaid yn ddechrau! Ond rhefwntau i fod i'r ffordd. Nid oherwydd, a'r roedd yn dweud'r ffordd yn yr eich fforddio a'r ddrwy'n cymaint lle, ac mae'n gweithio, ac oherwydd, yn chi'n gweithio i'n meddwl i'r gweithio. pawb yn gwneud. A gwybod maen nhw yn sweit buffalo,.'"Ill gwytdwch maen nhw'n pob b chang gwirionedd." Mae'n gofyn yn chlas un ddau. So mae'n cases Cymru, mae'n roi'n teimlo cyd-bug ymlaen chi. Fawr o'i ddigon, mae'n hoff yna, mae'n iawn, mae'n gofyn yn wneud. Mae'n gofyn i chi chi, mae'n gofyn yn y tro. Mae'n gofyn. Mae'n gofyn yn y tro. Mae'n gofyn yn hynny. Mae'n gofyn yn gwneud, gelio'r rodd o'r bodi. Falla'r rodd o'i chwilant eich gobl yn ddweud yma. Umwys ddalig i'r rodd o'r rodd, rwy'n gweithio ar y stamp, yn ei chyfwng i ddweud. Mae hyn yn diddai nhwpodair o'r rodd o'r rodd o'r rodd mheirhawrm. Mae'r rodd o'r rodd o'r rodd yn gweithio. Mae'r rodd o'r rodd o'r rodd a arniad. Rwy'n gweithio'r rodd o'r rodd o'r rodd, yr ydi'r rhiwgo i ddaeth daeth lebl gyaf, felly mae'n dweud yn y bwysig â'r cyfnith yng Nghymru. Mae'n ymwneud yng nghymru yng Nghymru. Pwysig o'r gymnyddiaeth yn y bwrth, a mae'n ddymiannol yn cael y bydd. Mae'n ddweud yn y bydd yn ddymiannol, ac mae'n edrych yn gallu'n gwybod gyda'r gynhyrch. Mae'r ddweud yn y bydd. Ac mae'n ddweud yn ôl i'r gweithio, mae'n ddweud yn ni, mae'n ddweud yn ni, mae'n ddweud yn ni, mae'n ddweud yn ni, If I'm getting fit, it'll work harder, so if I have that buzz back again, it's good and I feel hungry again. Because a lot of people will be struggling now, so a lot of people will be looking at you for inspiration, motivation to keep going. So if you're battling, it shows people that we're all human at the end of the day, people will be looking at you, think you've got it sussed out and life will be great, world champions, bells, travelling the world, everybody loves you in the fight industry. And if you're battling then it goes to show that, it's okay too, fucking battle. Everyone's got demons, everyone's got stuff going on and everyone's got their outlet, everyone sees mine because I've got a lot of followers on Instagram and stuff like that, everyone sees what my outlet is, it's me fucking coming in this gym, smashing the pad, smashing the bag. You don't see what goes on behind Instagram, do you know what I mean? When I was sat in the house, fucking devastated in this lockdown and stuff like that, I'm going to speak to my friends, I'm going to speak to them about anxiety and stuff like that because I started thinking, my career over here, is it done? Am I not going to get me sent back to full fitness? Will I ever fight again? Will we ever have shows in England again? It was tough, you know what I mean? If anyone's having any problems of anything, just speak to your friends, talk to your friends, that was the best thing I did because I was sat in the house and I was worried at some points. I went out for a meal when we were misses and I only told about three people this. I went out for a meal when we were misses and I sat there and I said, I need to go. He said, why? My food hasn't even come yet. I just had like a fucking mini panic attack because all I've been thinking about all that day was, my career's done, I can't fight, I can't train. My food got put in front of me and I said, I need to go. We had to get up and had to go home and it's fucking locking me down in my bedroom and just lie there in darkness for like two hours just till I came back down. You were awful mate. I've never experienced all that. So if I'm experiencing stuff like that, what are all these poor people who are losing their businesses and stuff to this shit that's going on? What's going on with these guys? Do you have any problems? Just talk to someone, speak to your friends, let it out. But I think as well you've given yourself three years so you're probably thinking I've just lost a year. I feel like I'm being robbed mate. But yet the rest of the problem is on your world again though. The thing is because I'm in such good form as well and I'm winning and I won my last, I think three of them by KO, five of them last six or something and I'm on good form and I'm getting myself in line for another title shot. And I felt like they just stole it away from me. But obviously there's bigger things going on than this. People who are losing businesses and stuff like that. Everything is losing somewhere in this time. So I guess I've just got to try and stay on top of it and try and look towards the positives. Exactly man, keep pushing forward. Exercise is key. Exercise is key. See when you see kids fighting and stuff, do you know straight away they've got a talent? Yeah, but the worst thing either. I'll tell you what's the worst thing when you see someone come through this door in this gym who has got all the talent in the world but won't put that working. Because when I will come in through the ranks and stuff, my technique won't the best until I were about five or six years into my career. I would just roar, but I worked harder than anyone else. I knew there were a lot of fighters out there who were technically better than me. But I just thought, well, if you're technically better than me, fuck this, you won't work harder than me. I'll make sure I'm fitter. I'll make sure I can go five rounds at a faster pace than you. I'll make sure that I'm stronger. I'll make sure that I run more miles than you. I'll make sure I do more rounds on the pads than you. And eventually when I started to go into Thailand and work with different trainers, my technique started to come with it and I started to get a bit of a technical style as well as the power and aggressive style. But that's the worst thing when you see a young fighter come through the door and they've got all the talent in the world but lunch will be lazy or they won't work hard. You can teach everything, but you can't teach desire. You can't teach discipline and you can't teach heart. You've either got it or you want it or you don't. Discipline is key as well. For any kids watching that aren't coming, train hard. I know there's a lot of boys in Glasgow now training hard. Some of the kids have seen some of their fights. Some of them are tough, tough boys. But this is the breaking point in it where if you're going through lockdown and shit, people think they're going to have to find another career path. What advice would you give for any of them coming fighters? Stick with it. Do not let anyone tell you that you can't do this because I remember when I was in school, I remember I got sent out of English, I was 15, and Mr Hill he said to me when I got sent out, he said, what do you think you're all going to do with your life? Do you think you're going to be a professional fighter because I'll tell you now that's not going to happen? And I remember thinking at a time thinking, fuck you, I thought I will show you. So have you watching Mr Hill? Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do it. Stay obsessed, be disciplined and just stick with it and trust the process. As long as you are putting the work in and you are grafting as hard as physically possible, the universe will repay you. I honestly believe that. Well you're living proof of it, but hard word to Chris Kealy, he says there, train harder on everybody else, believe in yourself as Kealy as well. With Mr Hoster and you can't do that. And I'll never forget that mate, I remember at the time I was thinking, I just wanted to say it at the time, but fuck you, I said it in my head and I thought right, I'll show you. But for coming on the day brother and telling your story, would you like to finish up on anything yourself? I'm trying to say a massive thank you to everyone who supported me in my career, all my sponsors, Jim King, my clothing brand, 11th commandment, stuff like that, all my trainers, all my training partners, my gyms in England and Thailand, just a massive thank you to everyone. Mainly to all my friends and family and my fans who have supported me in my career, because without them, without the support, without them buying the tickets and stuff like that to come and support me and all coming up from my career, I won't be where I am now. Coming on the day brother and telling your story mate. Massive thank you, thank you very much. I look forward to seeing you next week. Cheers mate. Cheers brother. 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