 I can hear you well sir. What's your name? Our Aishwarya sir. Yes with me. Aishwarya. Yes sir. Let me start. Yes. Can you introduce yourself to the board please. Good afternoon sirs. My name is Aishwarya and I am from Kadalur, Tamil Nadu. I have completed my engineering in Civil Engineering College of Engineering, Gindi, Anna University and I am presently posted as Indian Railway Account Service probationary in Indian Railway Institute of Financial Management, Sikyendra Bhatt. What were your family background, parents? Yes sir. My father is in agriculture and my mother is in school education department working as assistant officer sir. Brother, sisters, nobody is there. Siblings? Sorry sir, I didn't get that. Yes sir. I have an elder sister and a younger brother. Both of them are into civil service preparation sir. So all of them are civil service? Yes sir. So you studied in Gindi, right? Yes sir. Can you give me the historical importance of this particular place that you are in Institution? Sir, this is our first technical institution to be established in India. Actually it was established in 1796 by British an engineer called Michael Topping. That time it was called School of Architecture, Sub-Bank School and later it got developed into a new university sir. And IIT Rukela has been recognized as one of the oldest engineering college but even before that college of engineering in India existed sir. Supposedly the oldest in Asia I was told. Oldest? Oldest in Asia, not India? Sir, that I am not sure of that sir. You are not sure? Yes sir. So what are your options in civil service? Sir, my options subject is Sociology sir. Sociology? Yes sir. So I just want to ask that what happened in Kuthikoran just around two weeks back that father and son they were taken to police station, they were tortured I suppose and they died in a police custody. So why is that happening and all? It's like same thing what happened in the US like racism, criticism that discrimination is the poor people, something like that. Police brutality in Tamil Nadu? Yes sir. It's an unfortunate incident sir but the reasons which led to this situation in both the countries I think it is different sir. In the US it is a long existing racism culture between them sir, between blacks and Americans and here in India this is because of the high handedness of police in few instances while enforcing lockdown. And I don't think there is any racism or caste component behind this incident sir. It is utterly because of a pure revenge act and I don't think we can compare both incidents but one thing common is that police as an institution should become more public friendly and the one who upholds the law and protects people. But that angle has been a little that we have moved away from that mainstream where police should protect the people. That component is forgotten sir. You heard the concept called Friends of Police, FOP? Friends of Police? Yes sir, it's a volunteer program where common public can act as informers to public police sir. So what I heard, I read that because I am in the police that these people are being used by the police department doing all those sort of custody, taking people into, taking even a rest then doing all sorts of nonsense and this particular case also three, four volunteers are involved in this particular case also. So as a result I think the government of Tamil Nadu has cancelled that program now. It's just four days back, the Friends of Police has been abolished in Tamil Nadu. So are you aware of that? Yes sir, yes sir. But I believe abolishment is not the solution sir. Initially it was started with the focus of engaging community in the policing and for maintaining law and order. Sudden abolition is not good sir. I recommend rationalizing or restructuring of that program by introducing the more citizen friendly measures. So what happened in Tamil Nadu that then UP also won, criminal they were raided and they killed the police officers then this guy also got killed with the police in court, the police in court yesterday morning. Yes sir. I am aware of that sir, because to basic. So there's no hesitation and nobody has stated against that, that police, they said it's a force in court but nobody has stated about that. So are we accepting violence by the police? Sir, the criminal justice system starts with the police and I believe it should end with judiciary and prison. So but he ended with the police only. Even before this system sir, that I don't recommend it sir. So India as a society, like what happened in Hyderabad when doctor was raped and the similar situation was there then four people they were shown that they were trying to snatch weapons and they were shot and public was celebrating the police and showering flowers. So are we encouraging violence in uniform as a society? Sir, as a society there is an outrage against the pendency of cases. And so they believe that instant justice given by police is much more efficient but that should not be the case. We should follow the due process of law and order. We should follow all the laws and regulations to know what is the truth, what went behind all the cases. So this thing any crime should undergo a trial process and in the end only the truth will be uncovered. This instant thing, instant encounters are extra judicial and it's not constitutional sir. It's not constitutional. So how do we stop it? It's happening all the states and both of the states and for a long time. How do we stop it? What do we have? Sir, we should implement the police reforms. The police establishment board where the complaints against the police can be inquired into and we should also clear the pendency of cases so that all the under trials should be cleared so that people will restore their faith in the judiciary system also sir. Okay, I'll hand over to Sarangi sir. Yes. Yes. Yes sir. Good afternoon sir. Good afternoon. You are in civil account? Sorry sir, that got upgraded into Indian railway account service. Okay, railway account service. Yes sir. Okay, very nice. So, railway has got 3-4 services they have. Solutions sir. They have got 3-4 services. Yes sir, yes sir. Let us have 8 services in total sir. Okay, railway traffic then. Account service, personal service and then engineering services sir. Protection force. Railway protection. Now there is talk that all the services should be combined. Yes sir. You have heard about that? Yes sir, yes sir. All the 8 different services should be combined so that there is no inter-departmental stress. Okay, so what about that? Is it happening or not? Yes sir, it is happening at a fast pace I believe sir because the recruitment of the IRAS, IRPS services have been stopped in the UPSC 2020 notifications sir. And this is happening in a good pace but still the modalities are not yet clear like how they would merge all the services at different levels. Okay, okay. They say rail India is real India. You agree with this? Yes sir, Indian Railways in itself is a mini India where all the diversity is shown in the railways itself. First of all it connects the entire country from Kashmir to Kanyakumari and railways is also one of the reasons why India is united both economically and politically. And the other thing is that every Indian citizen gets to travel in the Indian railways and has traveled in Indian railways. That's how it reflects the Indian also sir. And recruitment also, Indian railways being the largest employer. Here the railways people are from different parts of the country and they themselves share a culture of India sir. It's really a mini India sir. Okay, okay, very nice. Have you heard of generalized system of preferences? We do it in the United States. Generalized system of preferences. Yes sir. Have you heard of this? Yes I have heard of it but I can't exactly recollect what it is. I think it's related to trade preferences. No, no. They do not charge any tariffs from certain countries. Okay sir. Can you expand that? Have you heard about it? Yes sir. I have read about it sir but currently I can't recollect what it is. That is India and United States. In the United States as per their trade act to so many poor countries they will not charge on certain items. They will not charge in terms of that tariff. But Mr. Trump waived that. He said no, no. We will charge India. Okay. So that was the relation. Okay, okay. What are the four fundamental forces of nature? Sorry sir, four fundamental forces of nature. Forces of nature. Have you heard of standard model in physics? Sorry sir. Standard model in physics? No sir, four fundamental forces I know sir. What are the four fundamental forces? Sir, gravitational force, electromagnetic force. Sorry sir, I can't recollect. Strong nuclear force and wheat nuclear force. Okay sir. There are four forces, isn't it? Yes sir. So now they say that there is a fifth force also. Have you heard about it? No sir. For time, for last so many hundreds of years they had accepted. There are four fundamental forces in nature. Okay. That means any activity, anything. Hello. Can we convert it into these four fundamental forces? Yes sir. But now they say that there is a fifth fundamental force also. There is a lattice developmental side. Maybe. They have not yet proved it. But there is a thought that there is a fifth fundamental force. Okay. Can you tell us what are gravity waves? Gravitational waves sir. Yes. Sir, if there is any cosmic interaction between two planetary bodies, then waves are real. There are most bigotel planets. Yes sir. Yes sir. Very massive bodies. Massive bodies like two black holes or any interplanetary system sir. Yes. That time the energy which is released is called gravitational waves sir. So the gravitational wave, what is the characteristic of a gravitational wave? Sir, it creates a ripple effect in the space by bending. We also have electromagnetic radiation also. Yes sir. Lights and other forms. Yes sir. They are also emitted. But what is the difference between that and gravitational force? Sir, gravitational waves tend to change the time and space, sir. Not change the time. Gravitational force, we can have more information on the beginning of the universe. Yes sir. Because light cannot enter the first three lakhs years of the big bang. Tell about that. So light cannot enter. But gravitational waves, okay, they can give us the information even at the beginning of the universe at the big bang. Okay. So the mass, lots of years are not up to gravity waves. So gravity waves can give us little more information on the beginning of the universe. Okay sir. Okay. And light can be obstructed. But gravitational force waves cannot be obstructed. Okay sir. Okay. So they are some of the basic size things that I am asking because you are an engineer. Okay. So have you heard of the grand Ethiopian Inasa dam? Sir, I have not heard anything. These are the major dams being constructed in Africa now. Okay sir. Because why this is the important affair? Because it is on Nile. And Nile water treaty is of course the biggest treaty between six, seven to six countries. So now if this dam is constructed, now they have to again change the fundamentals of the treaty. Okay. That is why it is very difficult. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So Miss Aishwarya. Yes sir. So you are from Kadalu. Yes sir. And you have done your civil engineering. Yes sir. Tell me what are the latest innovations happening in your field of civil engineering? So mainly they are experimenting with like embedding photovoltaic panels on glazing system so that that can also generate electricity, solar voltaic panels. And the other thing would be kinetic footfall where electricity can be generated by this mechanical force where people all walk on. This could be laid on in crowd walks areas and also these are few technologies. And in building materials also sulphate resistant cements are coming up sir. What about in terms of design of the building? Design of the building, green building concept is going on sir where energy utilization can be minimized by optimum design of structures sir. And the other thing would be energy saving buildings. Now you see cement industry is the largest contributor, one of the largest contributor to greenhouse gases. It's almost 5% of the carbon dioxide is emitted by cement industry. So first question is why it is high carbon footprint is there. Second is that do we have any alternative or are there innovations happening in this field? Sir first of all the manufacturing process of cement requires a furnace burning. Yeah this is the reason for our carbon footprint. That may not be right because that same thing is applicable for steel industry also. If you are talking in terms of burning coal it is applicable to other industries also. Okay sir then I will give a clue. It has more to do with the raw material which is used. So what is raw material used for cement? Sand silica sir. Limestone. Limestone is it not and what is limestone? Limestone is calcium carbonate compounds sir. So what happens when you heat limestone? Yes sir carbon dioxide gets released. So that is a trapped carbon dioxide. It's a fossil fuel. Okay sir. It's a fossilized carbon which is out. So that is a major reason why there is a carbon footprint. Increase in carbon footprint. And for coming to alternatives I believe we can utilize the massive construction and demolition waste we already have in our country. And there is only few recycling facilities in India. Only two facilities are there one in Delhi and one in Mumbai. I think this one we should scale up. The construction and demolition waste could be recycled. Going for alternatives we have fly ash which could be reused. And also young sun can also be used in place of cement. Mostly I believe recycling would be a better option sir. Is there something like green cement? For instance you are not using limestone. Actually you are producing limestone. Sorry sir I am not aware of the concept. Alright. You have mentioned that you like watching Asian dramas. Yes sir. What is this? Sir Asian countries dramas. Mainly China, Thailand, Japan and even Korea. Korean dramas I like to watch mostly sir. I am not really going to ask you about Korean dramas. But I would like to know have you heard about this book Asian drama. An inquiry into the poverty of Asians. Yes sir. It is written by Gunnar Mirdals the sociologist and economist. Mainly about the world systems. How poverty is being perpetuated and created in countries. I have not read that book sir. But I have read the review of that book sir. Okay. If you could have a look into it. Because the possibility when you mention Asian dramas. The possibility of Gunnar Mirdals view on India in fact. Corruption and all that you know. That could be a point for discussion. Okay. So maybe you could prepare yourself for that discussion. It is very highly likely that this will be asked. Now since you talked about South Korea. What is the reason why the movie Parasite became such a popular movie? Recently that movie also got Oscar awards. There is a thing called Hallyu where the Korean industry. Movie industry is reaching big markets. One such reason is that already growing popularity of Korean entertainment industry. And the other thing would be the unique storyline of that movie sir. Which brings out the class differences in the society. That is also one component sir. I believe the growing limelight and focus on Korean entertainment would be one of the reasons. Because there are so many good movies which have been released in the past also in Korean industry sir. What are your hobbies? Table tennis and gardening also. Sketching also. What are the plans which can be used or which is more effective in vertical gardening? So in vertical gardening we can go for crotons. Because it requires only small space and watering also can be minimum. We can go for crotons like the snake plant and other smaller varieties of crotons. Other than that flowering plants would be a little difficult. But there are also few miniature flowering plants which we can go for. What are the advantages of vertical gardening? Space utilization sir. Because in many campuses we won't have enough space. Given vertical gardening we can utilize that space. And also in public infrastructure like roads and bridges. This would prevent the defacing of the walls by giving an aesthetic sense to that. And also it's good in absorbing pollution. Also it improves the biodiversity of the region. Yes sir I can hear you sir. Also it reduces the ambient temperature of the region. Now you have taken sociology as your option isn't it? Yes sir. Now tell me what is the social impact of gated communities? Gated communities in itself is a form of isolation. The rich tend to isolate themselves whereas the poor are isolated by condition. And gated communities are one such phenomenon of the seclusion of rich. And it creates a feeling of alienation among the other marginalized communities. Who were the people who initially constructed those buildings. And in the end they can't get access to such buildings. It leads to alienation among themselves. And recently in the coronavirus pandemic also the gated communities have said to keep their own rules. Which is more stricter than the government rules. I came across an issue like that sir. Where people from outside are not allowed to use their lifts and elevators. So if you speak like a sociologist. If you speak like a sociologist. One is alienation. Yes sir. Elimination becomes an important issue. What else is as a sociology student what else can you see from gated communities as an impact? It is marginalization of existing class differences. And also the impact of new family and new forms of living sir. Okay. Does it also lead to a mindset which is where a set of people are not really concerned about the whole welfare of the society as such? In particular I don't believe that sir. They are isolated geographically but I don't think they are isolated socially. They are also involved in all forms of activities sir. Okay. Thank you. Thank you sir. So what is your preference for services? Sir IIS in the first preference sir. Second preference IRS IT. Third preference IRS customs. Fourth preference IFS sir. And fifth preference IRS. So you don't like the police basically? Not like that sir. You wouldn't IIS blow the IRS? Sir for me if anyone puts in IPS, if anyone wants to put in IPS. They have to put it in first preference sir. Because that service demands so much commitment and dedication to its own sir. And I believe one shouldn't accidentally become an IPS and one should want to become an IPS. For me that kind of passion is towards IIS sir. And I don't want to accidentally end up on IPS sir. So you got any role models in IIS? Yes sir. Who is he or she? It's Mr. Gaganthi Singh Bedi sir. Because in 2004 in my district Kadloot district there was a tsunami event sir. And the fatalities were nearly 500 and 5 fatalities were there. That time Mr. Gaganthi Singh Bedi was our district collector. And everyone who were the citizens of Kadloot were reciting his name. Like sir would come serve and provide the relief works and all. And as a child I looked up to him and slowly I got interested in IIS. I too want to be there in the crisis management. Why only one Bedi? Why not everybody becomes the same? All administrators and all. What is lacking in the Indian bureaucracy? I only saw examples of excellence. Everybody becomes excellent. Yes sir. Why so? Sir first thing I believe there's a lack of motivation after entering into the services. And stagnation of talent and thus political influence may also lead to lack of motivation. This could be few reasons why the efficiency is not up to the market. There are progress everywhere. But only few come to the limelight. It's mainly because of anonymity of civil servants. And all civil servants are doing something or the little things to the society. And in the end this would be massive change to the society. Just not extensive to them sir. So can you tell me little bit about what do we move forward with China? The sign of Indian power stand up on the border. What are the major issues? How do we resolve it? The major issues the unresolved boundaries which we have which haven't been clearly demarcated between the two countries. We should solve that issue first to prevent these standoffs. And this should require a political will and high level discussions between the both countries. And should be completed in a fast-posed mission mode. Because this lack of clarity is only leading to the standoffs. And it's also partly because of China's expansionist and aggression activities which it is showing. And almost all parts of the world mainly the South China Sea. And it's growing influence in South Asia. It is China's reaction against India's growing state. But China is having discourse with around. I think if I am not wrong it's not 18 countries they got the territorial disputes. 18, 18. So this isn't their nature because a lot of economic power they are fronting that. They are showing the military power. They had the first base they put in Djibouti. They put the first military base. They are fronting their power and all. They don't bother about anybody. Everybody is trying to corner them on Krona. But they are talking about something else. How do we tackle a power like this? Sir, to tackle China we have to come united. So multilateral forums should tackle China as well. First India should strengthen its foothold in South Asia. And then we should revive the SARC mechanism. And then we should involve our Asian partners. And our allies like Russia and the USA should also be taken on forefront. And the first thing would be focusing on making China accountable for the pandemic it has created. China flouting its responsibility. And showing its territorial aggression shows how irresponsible a nation can be. And multilateral forums should make sure that China is accountable for this. There is a massive pandemic which has led to economic loss and livelihood loss. I believe multilateral forums are the key to bring China accountable. Yeah, you might have read the LAC, Line of Actual Control. There is something called LOC also. Are you aware of that? LOC? Yes sir, it's Line of Control in the India-Pakistan border side sir. Why it's called Line of Control and Line of Actual Control? Sorry sir, I have no idea. What is the difference between LAC, LOC and the international border? So the international border is what the border which is under India's claim. And the Line of Actual Control and Line of Control is the territorial ingressions made by Pakistan and China during wars. The international border has defined that. How do we define the international boundaries? Like if you call an international border, how do we define it? What is the definition of that? Which is not there in the case of LAC and LOC? Sir, any international boundaries should be recognized in our own constitutional laws. That is one way to ascertain an international boundary. And other thing would be natural geographical boundaries when also commander our boundaries sir. The international border is basically accepted by both the countries who share the border and recognize by the world. Clearly demarcated. It may not be natural and whatever is there, but basically accepted and recognized by the world. But that is not the case in LAC and LOC. You know how much area China is occupying? Indian territory? How much area there under Chinese occupation? I'm not exactly sure. Not there. Last I want to ask like Tamil Nadu very hardworking people, very progressive and all. Literature is very rich, isn't it? Tamil literature. So we are proud of that. It's very rich language, very good language. But why is there so much animosity towards Hindi and Tamil Nadu only? Not in other states of South India. Legislations against Hindi. Is it political? Sir, this animosity was prevailed in 1960. But now people are becoming progressive and open to all cultures. In 1960s it was mainly due to the fear of exclusion. Exclusion from all services and fear of subsidization of one's own language. That led to agitation among public and it was utilized by the political people to claim the power. But right now, if we are assimilating the cultures and Hindi is being actively learned by all the students in Tamil Nadu. Is it being taught in the government schools? No, sir. So I think this is something which is expected by the politicians to mobilize the awards, isn't it? Yes, sir. Political management should be there to implement these three language systems. Anything little bit about the corona, how we handled it and how we handled it. We are not through, we are still fighting it. Corona, pandemic, how we handled it. I believe India has performed well in coronavirus management, sir. Because India in itself is a unique country which we can't compare with any other country, sir. Because we are reading news reports about how New Zealand tackled corona. But New Zealand has population of only 26 million which is not even the population of Chennai city. So tackling coronavirus in such a large scale in a country like this and maintaining the mortality rate below and having a high recovery rate, I believe we have managed corona well, sir. But the one thing where we missed out is the issue of migrant workers. Since they were not covered under any social safety security net, sir. That should have been our focus. And I believe since we never met a crisis like this before in our history, it was little unprecedented. But still states like Kerala had performed very well. Indeed they made the access of shelter and food to migrant workers using all the data and all the infrastructure they had. So Kerala performed very well. And another example would be Dharavi, sir. Nowhere in the world we can implement management like that, sir. Because in a 10 by 10 square feet, 10 people are social distancing is much very impossible. But even in that Bombay Municipal Corporation has made sure that coronavirus rate has come down. And they have managed well and World Health Organization has also acclaimed it, sir. So I believe we have managed it pretty well, sir. And other issues, we have to now focus on other issues like bringing students back to education, providing migrant workers the facilities in their own rural areas. And that should be our focus, sir. And health disease management should also gain priority in disaster management, sir. So what are the three best lessons we have learned from corona? Good lessons. Personal hygiene, sir. Washing the washing hands. The importance of washing hands has become more critical. And the second thing would be the evil effects of globalization. How a fallout in one country could affect the entire world. So the importance of self-reliance, where the country can stand on during a crisis. Self-reliance is the second thing, sir. And third thing would be inclusion, the negative effects of exclusion. If inclusion is there, they will be able to ward off themselves from any crisis, sir. Because in this pandemic, the high-income group and middle-income group are able to shield themselves and were able to survive in the lockdown. Whereas the most affected were the people below poverty line. And we should make sure that we include all the people in all the services, sir. What were the family like? People forced to spend time with the families for a long time, sitting at home. Which they were always running around, but now they're sitting indoors. So what were the family? Sir, family as an institution, one negative compound is that the domestic violence. Where women are not able to escape their perpetrators and have no help outside also. Before they can go outside, they can seek help from police station or from their mother house. But this component got missing in our family system, sir. We should have given PRD counseling through TV and through advertisements of the need to keep citizens engaged. We should have requested them and we should have put a moral obligation on them that you are in our national duty to stop this pandemic and let us all work together. We should have focused on the internal issues in the family, sir. Thank you. One last, what about the environment? We were reading news that first time animals are coming out of this thing and the environment is so clean. I think if you talk about global warming and all, is it not advisable to observe lockdowns every year? Maybe 2-3 weeks? It is indeed a good idea, sir. But we have to plan it accordingly, like which all sectors can we put in lockdown. And if we come out with a very well-prepared strategy, like schools are not polluted exactly. So schools can function. Maybe the transportation sector could come under lockdown for few days. If we plan it and execute it, of course, we can bring in a positive change to environment also, sir. The quality of water, quality of air, visibility and all. I was reading the newspaper that in Punjab, from Jalandhar city, you can see hills which are 160 km away in Canada. So that is the first time people have seen, no generation has seen that. So it's a very good impact of lockdown. I think we should practice that as a species. Just like the odd even policy which restricted vehicles one day next day. We could go for this selective lockdown in selective cities and we can vote for the chains. For cities like Delhi, this would be a very good plan to go forward, sir. Thank you. Sarangisa too, please give the feedback to you. I asked some of the correct effort questions from science and like the fifth force and what else? Gravitational waves. Gravitational waves. And the gravitational waves you have acquainted, but the fifth fundamental force, they are what you decided. But then there is a talk that there can be a fifth fundamental force also. And the Great Renaissance, the Ethiopian Renaissance Dam, that's the biggest project of the world now. That will change the entire water scenario of North Africa. So when you are opting for Indian services, these Indian boundaries you must be very thorough. Okay, boundaries. So the chairman asked you, LOC and LSE. Actually with Pakistan, our entire border is 3-3-2-3 kilometers. Out of that, up to Jammu, it is international border. Okay, LOC was the earlier huge fire line. Now it has been this time. From there, 700-some kilometers are LOC. Then there is something called actual ground position line, AGPL, that is 110 kilometers. AGPL, 110 kilometers. And that 8th thing, 9842 or something, some junction point. From there, that goes north towards the glacier. So because of that, normally the line follows from 9842 north towards the glacier. Which part is that? There is an anomaly, so that is why Pakistan is telling that we are telling no shear challenge hours. So the triangle between shear change glacier, Indira point and Karakoram pass, these three are the trouble points now. So for the AGPL, the last part is concerned. Okay, so be very thorough about it, because Indian boundary mostly very thorough. On the eastern side, this side, with China, we have two major problems. One is the Aksai Chin on the north and Tawan on the eastern side. Okay, so as to why these things are happening, you be very thorough about it. Because otherwise your interview is very good, but I had a feeling that you are very fast. You are talking very fast. So as if you have more things that you are going on telling. So be a little slow in your speed. Because you are talking to somebody, it must register in its mind. Okay, so just a little slow, pitch is alright, but speed is a little. Because I found that it is a little fast. Okay, so that's all that I suggest. Thank you, thank you. Is it the pattern? Yeah, are you able to hear me? Yes sir, now only I am able to hear you. Yeah, so I was saying that the speaking part, maybe I completely agree with Sarangi sir. Slightly on the highest speed, maybe you could make a conscious effort to reduce it. There is no problem as such, but you could try it. Now whatever is mentioned in your application, the DAF here, can be a source for discussion. So when you mention about Asian dramas, obviously maybe TV serials may not be asked the question, but Asian drama is a very important book. So that can be a source for discussion. So maybe you could spend some time, create some two, three points. Because at the end of the day, the interview, one question is not going to be for five minutes. It's going to be one or two minutes. So maybe you could prepare for one or two minutes. And also about sociology, it may not be always a theoretical question. It could be what is your observation from the surrounding. Gated communities is something which is happening. Or the social implication of pandemic. So something of that sort could be a source for discussion. But when you're asked a question as a sociology student, try to use more of sociology terms. That will help you. Otherwise, you come across a very, very confident person. All right, sir. I think overall, I am quite satisfied with what you have said and all. So what I think Mr. Deeparan has also told, when you're asking questions, you should pause for five seconds as if you're thinking. Yes. Little bit acting is required. You are trying to arrive then react and all. Little bit dramatics has to be there. So that will impress the world more than what you're doing. And you're very intelligent. I know that you have good academics and all. Then sociology has a thinking of asking clash of civilizations like that. So they're very well-learned people clash of civilization, and all those things. Then relate to Tamil Nadu or India, any famous sociologist from India, what theory they have given them. One of them, I think, died only recently. You know that? One Indian sociologist died only two, three months back. Two months back. So you check up the newspapers and see what theory he has given and all. So please go through that. And how are you doing very well? And China, like, what is the dispute? How do we go forward? International pressure. But India is trying to bring through quality and recognition and all those things and all. So you put the points in writing. Try to say the most important. Answer may be one-half minutes to two minutes, not more than that. To be very crisp. And gravitational force also, you should be able to, gravitational waves, you should be able to define what Sarva is asking. So if you do not know, just tell them, sorry sir, I am not aware. I don't know that. Isn't it? When is the interview? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. When is the interview? July 21st, sir. July 21st. Tuesday. Tuesday. So there's a first, I think, so you can have one week, just brush up everything. Yes, sir. And that Corona, COVID-19 and Chennai is very serious and hot. So they may ask questions on that also. Why in Chennai they are not able to control? What are the special factors there? So with this question was asked by your faculty members, Mr. Satya is there. So you can have a word with him also. Then what, how you should form it to the answer. You are very confident and all the best to you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. If western border is extremely important because we have the opportunity to say that POK is ours. OK. OK. Gilgit, Valtistan, et cetera, they are ours. And that has completely stopped us when she does from Afghanistan because Afghanistan has also border with India. But because of POK that border is gone. We cannot return to Central Asia. OK. So that is one of the very important questions that the chairman asked you. So western border. OK. Just have a little look in the back. Yes sir. If we have the Indian map also that has been revised recently just go through that map also. It's a comment of India. It's just gone too much back. So they show the Indian territory. Please go through that. Thank you. Do well. Yes sir. Thank you sir. Bye bye.