 Hello. Welcome to this Q&A webinar on the North East Cambridge Area Action Plan. My name is Terry De Sousa, and I'm a Principal Planning Policy Officer at the Greater Cambridge Shared Planning Service. Today we have a Q&A session on business skills and training, and it's one of eight Q&A sessions that we're running during the 10-week public consultation on the North East Cambridge Area Action Plan. We are very pleased today to have two other people join me. We have a colleague who's been working on the plan and also somebody from the Council's Economic Development Team, and I'll introduce those, both of them to you in a moment. This Q&A session is intended to be an hour long. It will start up with some introductions and some housekeeping about how it will run, and then we'll have a short presentation on what the Area Action Plan is, and how you can get involved in the consultation, and also give you some idea of what we're proposing in terms of business skills and training specifically for this area. Because of the way that the Q&A sessions have run, they're all themed into different topics, so this one is on jobs, essentially, and skills and training, and we really hope that the questions that come forward are specific to this topic area. Towards the end of the session, we will list all of the other webinars that are coming up, and they are also themed, and then there's one final one just a couple of weeks before the consultation closes, which is a more of a general Q&A where it is open to a range of different topics and discussion points. So, no further ado, I will pass over to my two colleagues that are joining me today. So first over to Matt. Hi everyone, I'm Matt Patterson. I'm one of the project leads on developing the Area Action Plan for the Shared Planning Service. Thank you, and Joanna. Hi, I'm Joanna Davis. I'm Economic Development Officer. Thank you. So my colleague Matthew is just going to run through the presentation in a moment. It's relatively short and hopefully gives enough time to answer any questions that come forward. In terms of housekeeping, just to let you know that once the presentation is over, you'll be able to ask questions. So at the bottom of your screen, you should have a Q&A button. So if you click that and then type in your question, we will then be able to pick those up. There isn't a chat function on the Q&A, so it is essentially you ask a question and then we will do our best to respond to those. If we do run out of time, then what we did in the previous session was that we recorded those questions, we took them away and then we posted a written response to those questions on the website. So on the website after this, you'll have a video of the recording and you will also have a written response to any questions that we weren't able to pick up in the time. Just so everybody knows that all of the attendees are invisible, nobody can see you, and that you can post questions anonymously. So you're absolutely free to do that. You can also use your name to post it, but we won't be reading out any names as we're answering the questions. Okay, so I'm now going to pass over to Matt who's going to run through the presentation. Thank you Matt. Thanks, Gary. Right. So today's presentation is just on business skills and training, but before that we'll just give you some background to the North East Cambridge Air Action Plan. Next slide. So to provide some context, it's a very large site on the edge of the city and it's all brownfield land. It has really good transport accessibility. It has Cambridge North Station, the guided busway, Chisholm Trail. And the area will benefit from further improvements that are planned, including the Ely to Cambridge Mass Transit. We've got the greenways coming down from Water Beach and also the Cambridge Autonomous Metro is planned for here as well. It's only a 15 minute cycle ride from the city centre, so very accessible. We have a range of landowners, so unlike some of the other major developments across Greater Cambridgeshire, here we have a number of landowners and therefore we need a plan that brings all those landowners together and ensures development across the whole area is coordinated, works together and fits together as well and delivers on the aspirations that we share for the place. The area has a long history of employment use, in particular the science park and business parks that have added to what is known as the Cambridge Phenomena. We want to see that continue, but we also want to see the area developed further, more integrated as well, becoming more of a part of the city. But it is significantly still strategically important to the wider economy of the area. And we'd like that economy to have further flow on benefits really to those in the local surrounding communities. Next slide. So what's an area action plan? Well essentially it's a framework that we'll put together to help guide development in the area. It sets out what our aspirations for the place are and we hope that as development comes forward it delivers upon those aspirations. So it sets out clear policy expectations, objectives that we want to see delivered and obviously the vision for the long term vision for the place. An area action plan has the same status as the local plan, it goes through exactly the same process subject to an examination in public as well. And it's supported by a raft of evidence based documents that have been prepared to support the plan. Next slide. So what's our vision for North East Cambridge? Well we want the place to be an inclusive walkable low carbon and new city district with a really lively mix of homes, workplaces, services, social spaces all fully integrated with the surrounding neighborhoods. That's our vision. So these are just some of the headline figures. On your screen you'll see what we currently have on site which is about 15,000 jobs on those science and business parks. We only have three homes currently and mostly we have a lot of unused car parking space as well. But in the future we want to see about 8,000 new homes delivered in the area, 40% of which is our target for affordable housing as well. We can, through intensification of some of the employment uses and employment and some of the housing sites as well, we can see the creation of around about 20,000 jobs. We realize that the area needs to provide for public open space as well so we're providing at least 10 hectares in strategic open space as well as other spaces that come for. And there's a raft of other social and community facilities that will be required in the area to support that new development including primary schools and library. And like we said, improved connections, walking and cycling connections in particular. And we want the place not just to be about the tech industry and R&D and business but it's about a place for everyone. We also are recognizing that industrial land plays a really important part in what is a sustainable economy for the local area. So we want to retain that industrial land within the area as well. But we want to also bridge the gap between industrial land and the R&D sector by providing a much more broad range of businesses creating jobs for a lot of local people. And to support that as well through the construction and post construction phases, we're looking at training skills and investment to ensure that local residents in particular have that opportunity to access those local jobs that will be created on the site. And as I said, we're looking to provide at least 40% of the housing as affordable housing and then a mix of housing across the board as well. But that affordable housing can meet a wide range of different social housing needs. So the key aspects of the proposed business policies is a significant amount of new floor space to be added in. And like I said, this is to be a mixture of different types of floor space. We're talking about intensification on the existing science and business parts. But beyond that, we're talking about providing a much broader range of different types of employment floor space for start-up businesses, small to medium enterprises and more affordable floor space as well. And we hope that that will then ensure that those smaller businesses have access as well to the likes of what's going on on the business and science part too. We've got some maps that show exactly where those new employment floor spaces are to be provided. We've also got maps that show where the industrial floor space can be provided as well within the area if it can't be provided on the existing sites that it's currently on. And we have what's called a trip budget that applies to the area, which ensures that we don't get any net increase in traffic as a result of all the development we're putting in. So that trip budget also applies to any commercial development that's put into all the employment floor space has to comply with that trip budget. Like I said, there's lots of local employment and training opportunities that we will make available through the AAP process to ensure that local people can access those job opportunities as they arise. And lastly, we're looking at obviously digital infrastructure is really important and ensuring the place is well connected in terms of people's ability to access data and other things. So this is a slide that shows essentially where the businesses will be created. Essentially, you're looking at intensification within the science park. So that's the additional floor space there, but also a diversification to ensure that there's amenities for those workers as well and local services. So you're talking about shops and you're also talking about leisure provision to within these areas. Likewise on St John's, which is just to the sort of north in the corner by the A14. Again, that's an existing business site and you're looking at further intensification of that, but also again further amenities to meet the needs of people that work there and live locally. The other site current business park is sort of in the main body part there. So again, you're looking at a range of different types of uses with business forming part of that kind of overall mix. And then down on Nufffield, where we've come and got industrial land, some reprovision of that if possible on site and where it doesn't add to local transport risks or issues or relocation of that as well elsewhere within the scheme. To ensure that the area is truly a walkable, sustainable district, we are proposing for new kind of centres of activity. The main one is a district centre that sits on the main spine road, if you like, that runs between Cambridge North Station and the Cambridge Regional College. The district centre itself is to be located sort of at a point midway between Cambridge North Station and Milton Road and will serve as a focal point for people travelling through the area. We also have smaller retail and centres of activity, obviously one located around the station to serve those that are using that area, which will be a key transport interchange. One further towards the top of Cowley Road near the business park, again ensuring that everyone within the surrounding area has really good access to local shops and provision. And one further down towards Cambridge Regional College between the Regional College and the Science Park that will serve both those sites, but also the area surrounding in terms of King's Hedges, which has lack of provision currently. And what we're aiming for is a range of different types of shopping units, but mostly smaller units that meet local needs and can provide for a greater number of independent traders as well. In terms of land use, this map shows the detail, if you like, of where we proposed the different land uses to go. You'll see at the very northern part of the site, if you like, or areas still Cambridge Regional College remains there beside that is the small district or local centres, if you like, that we're proposing to serve those. The Science Park remains relatively in its current form, but more intensified in terms of its current use. And as I said, with some diversification in terms of providing greater amenities for workers and local residents too. As you come across Milton Road, you've got St John's to the North game, which is primarily a current business parking and subjects through the plan to intensification with some retail provision there as well. And then the bulk of the area is a very mixed use area, if you like. That includes both business space along the main road, the main spine that we talked about along Cowley Road there, that will also provide most of the retail provision in terms of and local service provision on it. Beyond that, you kind of get into more either residential led development that's a mixed use tool with businesses and other types of uses within it, including schools and other social provision. And on the other side, more business led, but with again mixed use with housing and other uses. And certainly around the station we see that with a combination of also obviously retail provision. And then the aggregates yard has to stay where it is. And so to help mitigate the impacts of that, we're looking at sort of a barrier of industrial uses that will line around and sit around that aggregates use and ensure that the noise dust and other things from that. Not impacting other uses in the wide area. So we've talked about mixed use development, and this slide just demonstrates kind of what we mean. I think we may have lost the map on that one. So, yes, so can we just go back a slide? Sorry. Thank you. Yeah, so this sets out how you can deliver mixed use development taken from examples from elsewhere. So this is really thinking about not just having a housing block next to an office block next to an industrial warehouse or shed. It actually shows how you can start to stack these uses or co-locate these uses in different ways. We've looked at examples from not only the UK, but also around Europe to see how this is done elsewhere. And there are some really, really good examples out there. And those have all been documented in what we call our typology study, which you can find on the website and we can we can share the link to that as part of this part of this webinar. Apologies. I dropped out completely. I don't know what happened. No worries. Typical glitches. Anyway, have to continue on. Do you want to go to the next slide? Yeah. And then Matt, did you want to just talk through this one, Matt? Good to have you back. Yeah, I will. So just to finish off, these are some practical examples and some real life stuff that's happened in terms of mixed use development. So in the top corner, right hand corner, you can see this is a Travis Perkins on the ground floor residential accommodation above. So houses above it. And that's in Camden. Then we have to the left. You've got commercial space with affordable work space and houses. That says Bernard works, which is in South Tottenham. Down the bottom there, you've got Caxton works, which is light industrial on the ground floor, the residential above. And then the final slide down in the right hand corner is homes with shops on the ground floor and even a cinema provision within there as well. And that's a welcome stuff. So on to some recently asked questions. Yes, thank you. Yes. So we've had a few questions already. Some of these are coming through social media. And we just wanted to pick up the kind of the top three that have come up in relation to business skills and training. So Matthew and Joanna are just going to talk through these ones. So the first question is for Matt. What kind of jobs will there be? Fantastic question really. There's going to be a significant range of different types of jobs created as a result of developing North East Cambridge. This will include both jobs through the construction phase, but also post construction jobs too. For the construction phase, we're looking at the widest range of jobs from those required for engineering, serving, drafts people, site managers, all manner of kind of skilled labour as well, including plumbers, electricians, builders. And to maximise those opportunities, we're looking at what training and apprenticeships we should be promoting now to take a full advantage of those in the future. And to ensure that youth within the area can see that there will be job opportunities and access to those jobs within their immediate areas. In terms of post construction, obviously within the area we're providing, as we say, a range of different employment opportunities. So within those, certainly there'll be employment opportunities within the business and science parks. But alongside all of the employment floor space and housing, there's a lot of social and other commercial provision that will go in. So there'll be a wide range of jobs in terms of community services provision, people to operate and organise our cultural provision as well and to run those. And obviously, with a significant amount of open space that will be provided, jobs will be created through those as well. Thank you, Matt. Okay, and the second question that came through from social media was what will happen to the existing businesses in the area and hopefully Joanne will be able to answer that one. Yes. Just to reiterate really what Matt said in his presentation. North East Cambridge is strategically important economic driver for Greater Cambridge as a whole. And as such there's tremendous demand for both business space and housing in the area. So the area action plan will be looking to protect the existing employment space and to increase it to take account of future current and future demand. That would mean for office and research and development space. There would be an increase of over 230,000 square metres of space. And for industrial floor space where the Cambridge area has seen a reduction over the last 20 years of 35%, we will be looking to protect the space and consolidate the industrial space and potentially we provide it across the site. So the main aim, so for businesses affected by any of the redevelopment, the council would be looking to work with them to look as to see if they can remain where they are, or potentially space be provided across the North East Cambridge site. Great. Thank you Joanna. It's really interesting to hear that the city's lost about 35% of its industrial floor space over the last 15 or 20 years. So it's quite a significant amount there. Okay. And then the third question is what are the plans for the science park? Matt, I think you've already touched on this a bit in your presentation already. But if you just wanted to just for anybody just joining the webinar, if you could just give a very brief kind of answer to that, that'd be great. Yeah, sure. So as Joanna says, the science park's really important as part of the wider Cambridge phenomenon. And we want to see it continue into the future to support the economic growth within greater temperature. How the AAP does that is to promote it for greater intensification. And it's relatively under use site. It has not much by way of built footprint and it's mostly car parking. So there's significant opportunity to look at intensification and further development within the area. And alongside that to provide for further amenities in the way of shops and leisure facilities to serve both the workers, and existing workers within the science park, but also that would benefit residents within the surrounding communities as well, who were to have great access and permeability into the science park to make use of those facilities. Great. Thank you, Matt. Okay, so we haven't had any questions put into the chat yet, but just to remind anybody who's just joining us at the bottom of your screen, you should have a button that says Q&A. And if you have any questions that you'd like the team to answer, then you can post them in there and we will do our best to try and answer those as much as we can. Okay, but in the meantime, there is another question, which I was hoping, Matt, you might be able to help us with. And that is, how can planners influence what sort of training opportunities are available? I can't really see a link between planning and education or training. Yeah, no, there's a significant link, really. And we do it. It's done elsewhere. I'm certainly done in Cambridge currently. In essence, when new development comes forward, and obviously through an area action plan, we're planning for that in advance, and therefore gives us further time to look at what might be the training for construction and both post-construction phases, what will be the job opportunities. And then we can work with colleagues both within economic development but outside the organisations of the councils, if you like, to those that are gearing young people in particular up with the skills they need. And then through the planning process, we can, through planning obligations, currently secure job opportunities through construction phase and even into the post-construction phase. So those are secured through legal agreements where the developers sign up to take on so many local workforce, to utilise the local supply chains, to take on apprenticeships as well. And because we know the landowners here and the developers here, we're looking to work with them very early before they put forward proposals and to start to put in and embed some of these training initiatives into place and work with the likes of the Cambridge Regional College to see what courses and skills they can bring to play as well, and then obviously to roll that out into the local schools and other places to ensure that everyone understands what opportunities may be available and could look to take up those opportunities. Thank you, Matt. Joanna, a question for you is, the plan talks about incubator spaces and grow-on spaces. Would you just be able to give us a flavour of what that means and what type of businesses that those kind of spaces might kind of apply to? Yes, we've done some recent research around incubator demand and supply in the Greater Cambridge area. And the outcome of that was that a lot of the spaces that exist at the moment are either full or close to being full. So part of the reason for that we understand is that there is a lack of grow-on space for businesses to move on to from the incubators. So we see that incubator space, providing additional incubator spaces, a demand for that. So small businesses, start-up businesses who don't want to be tied down to long leases and want the kind of easy-in, easy-out access to business premises. So those spaces would support those businesses. And when they're ready to grow, incubator spaces would be flexible, but there is a stage at which a business would need to move on to larger premises. So when that happens, we want there to be space available for those businesses, not necessarily so that they don't have to leave the area and they can remain in the area, staying connected to the businesses that they've connected with through being co-located. So it's really fundamental importance that businesses are able to start-up and grow within the same geographical area. That's great, thank you Joanna. OK, and another question is, are we mainly talking about more office-based jobs for people who will be paid enough to want to commute in from as far afield as Peterborough or Ely or North Essex? Or can you guarantee that there will be jobs for local young people without experience? Is that something you might want to take on that? Yeah, sure. I think through the employment floor space that we're providing, we are providing quite a significant amount of intensification within the science and business parks, and they will be primarily office or R&D floor space. But even then, there are significant opportunities for people to access those as well, and there is outreach programs that the Science Park is currently running, in particular with local schools, about what kind of things go on within those parks and how local teenagers and others can look towards a future where they could potentially work within those areas. Alongside that, obviously, with any employment floor space, there's a wide raft of different job opportunities that arise through servicing of those facilities. But what we're talking about within North East Cambridge as well is a diversification of the job offer and then types of employment floor space. So, we're still looking at retaining all of those industrial land and industrial uses, so they will continue to provide job opportunities in particular for those within the surrounding areas. And as Joanna said, we're looking to promote, obviously, SME, so small to medium enterprises coming here, taking up opportunities to work between, if you like, even the industrial type uses and the more techy R&D stuff, and for which there is a significant demand, and they will obviously look towards the local workforce in particular. And part of providing a mixed use development here is to ensure that actually some of these workers don't have to travel, that they have the opportunity to live and work in the same area, and making that accessible too. Thank you, Matt. In your presentation, there was a couple of slides on mixed use development, and you mentioned it again then. So, the question is about how easy is it to deliver these kind of mixed use developments because you traditionally get house builders or you get commercial builders. How easy is it to deliver the council's aspirations for this site? Yeah, I think if you'd asked me that question about even five years ago, I'd say really challenging, but actually it's becoming more the norm, and we're seeing it more and more in cities across the UK and England in particular, and certainly in London it's very much the norm, which is to deliver a stratified mixed use scheme with appropriate uses throughout. So ensuring that you maximise the use of the land for both job servicing, as well as housing. And it provides good amenity for those who are living within the area, and lots of activity as well, which also ensures that the area itself has support in terms of the facilities and social services that are provided to support those communities. And you get both daytime and evening activity in the area, so you get good surveillance as well. And through modern construction and layout of buildings in particular, you don't have any adverse impacts in terms of sensitivities between, say, what's going on on the ground floor and the environment that is provided for the residential accommodation as well. So more and more teary it's becoming the norm, if you like. Great, thank you. And yeah, as I said previously, if anybody wants to look at some more examples of how you can achieve mixed use developments, please do take a look at the typology study which was on the website. I've mentioned it in the last Q&A webinar that for a planning document it's a relatively easy read. So yeah, it's quite a good one to pick up and flick through if you get the opportunity to. OK, we've had another question. This is to and from the employment space. How will existing car parking be affected by redevelopment and or intensification? Matt, is that something you might be able to help with please? Yep, that's definitely for me. And what we want is as more employment floor space is added into the likes of the science of business parks that conversely the amount of car parking and access cars is significantly reduced. And that will be achieved through all of the transport means that we highlighted earlier in terms of we have excellent connectivity currently. And it's about ensuring that people have an alternative to bringing their car to the office really or that. Well, they have an alternative in the first instance, and then they take up that alternative and are motivated to take up that alternative. And that is by not having car parking freely available within the office built areas really. And that will ensure that we can maintain that trip budget whilst also enabling further development in the area to happen. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. I think it is worth highlighting that on. On the kind of spatial framework, which is kind of the kind of how the how the how the district could be laid out kind of diagram in the plan in the area action plan. It does sort of highlight where you could put these new business spaces across the whole area. And we're really keen to try and make sure that we are putting kind of a lot of the employment uses on those kind of hot routes. And when we say hot routes, we mean the routes that are well served by public transport, the routes that are well used by people that are walking and cycling. So thinking about places like the district centre, which is broadly where the golf driving range is at the moment on Cowley Road. So that's within walking distance of the guided busway in Cambridge North Station and Milton Road, which is already served by the park and ride bus. And also put in employment spaces close to some of the existing uses as well. So St John's, the Science Park, Cambridge Business Park as well. So really trying to work with what's already on the site both in terms of the land uses and the transport in the area at the moment. Just to add to that. And there is a role obviously for the new employees to take up and also the employers in terms of what they may offer to their staff in terms of encouragement through travel plans that we put in place. But also ensuring that when new development comes forward it has the right facilities in terms of showers, lockers and those things to promote cycling, secure cycle storage and the like. So the expectation is as well that through the AAP we're really driving down parking standards and parking requirements on site. And ensuring that those are maintained and managed in an appropriate way to facilitate a really walkable neighbourhood. Thank you Matt. And another question is about affordable workspace. So the plan references affordable workspace. Can I have a matter with Joanna, give us an indication of what that means and what that would apply to for the area action plan over the area. Jo, do you want to do that one or I'm happy to? So typically where we see development coming forward with significant employment floor space, we can as the councils negotiate that part of that floor space becomes what is known as affordable floor space. And that is rent at much lower levels than the local area would normally achieve. And that's just to ensure that the businesses that would like to operate in the area but can't afford those rents have the opportunity to potentially access that floor space. It's normally run by an operator who's an affordable workspace operator who has a list of people on their databases that would like to take up that kind of floor space, local businesses and the like. And it's they run it really well in terms of those businesses have to demonstrate how they are taking up local job opportunities as well as part of their offer taking up the affordable workspace. And then they have to show how they're going to to grow their businesses as well to move out of that affordable workspace to make available to someone else. And essentially it's all secured through again legal agreements and and then managed on that. Thanks Matt. Joanna, I've got a question for you. All of this development and all these Cambridge, what does it mean for greater Cambridge in general? In terms of the spear report talks about lots of growth and economic development. And we've already got a number of business parks and that scattered around. Do you think about kind of one in Water Beach when Campbell and etc. And then you've got quite a few to the south of the city. What does what does all of this kind of all of these jobs kind of mean for greater Cambridge in general? I think the spear report highlighted a number of key sectors in terms of maintaining and growing Cambridge. And the two key to the key ones were life sciences and digital sectors. And of course, the existing Northeast Cambridge businesses. Those two sectors are very key sectors for Northeast Cambridge. So in terms of its importance to the greater Cambridge area, we would be looking at the Northeast Cambridge development to help to maintain the prominence of those sectors in the area, but also to help grow them. But particularly life science is the key one of the key drivers for location for life science businesses is to be close to other businesses and to cluster as a sector. So growing the amount of space that's available in the Northeast Cambridge will mean that we attract some new businesses to the area attracted by the space, but also by a proximity to other businesses in the area. So it is key that we ensure that we support our key economic clusters and key providers employment in the area. Cool. Thank you very much Joanna. And obviously with what's going on at the moment in terms of COVID and the demand for office space. Obviously, you know, nobody's really sure about what's happening at the moment in terms of the wider world, I suppose. Forget about Northeast Cambridge, but you know, has the council considered the impact of COVID and whether we actually need all of this office floor space and R&D floor space? Matt, is that something you might be able to help with? Yeah. I mean, when we started drafting this plan, obviously it was a very different world. And our aspirations for the place were around intensification of those uses, lots and lots of activity on site. COVID-19 might change that really and we are having to think seriously as councils, not just about the employment floor space and people going into offices, but even right through to housing and people working from home ensuring you've got more space to do that and private amenity space as well, so that you have that good access to open space provision locally. So it affects a lot of things and even right through to what types of leisure and community services and facilities we might put in. At the moment, we just don't really know whether COVID-19 is going to be with us for a short time or a very long time, what the implications are. And so what we've written into the front of the AP is that unfortunately at this point, we're just going to have to maintain a watching brief. We're going to have to talk to the business sectors about their growth aspirations and but what that actually means in terms of COVID and whether that would translate into requiring floor space, how that floor space is laid out, how you may have to still maintain social distancing, how you'll do all of those sorts of things. Certainly on the digital side ensuring that Northeast Cambridge resident take up accommodation here have access to ultrafast broadband and the like, so you know home working is still a significant reality for people as well. And yeah, I think it's we've got time before we have to finalize this plan and hopefully we'll be guided by what the government's telling us in terms of guidelines, but also just out there talking with residents and businesses about what the implications may be. And we'll have to write those in and we may have to be quite flexible on how we take the plan forward. Great. I was just about to ask you about what does the plan say about broadband speeds just because it was your internet that cut out in the few minutes ago, so I thought you would be the best place to answer that. Yeah, I think the aspiration is to deliver on ultrafast and in particular full fibre, so you're talking fibre to the house and to the business to ensure you can get ultrafast internet connection. Beyond that, we're also looking at digital connectivity across the piece. So you're looking at, you know, this being an open Wi-Fi area, so fully accessible in terms of we have our aspirations about how people will transition seamlessly between different types of transport to take up the most sustainable transport options, but at a pace that really is accelerated so that those options are the number one choice really. So having Wi-Fi and having digital connectivity is kind of in essence a must for the area in terms of ensuring people have access to data so that they can make real-time decisions and can transition with a click and get on an electric scooter or a bike, electric bike to get to their destination, know when the next bus is coming, know when the next train is going to pick them up. So all of those things require a good digital platform to do it. Great. Thank you, Matt. So on the screen now you should be able to see the upcoming Q&A webinars that are going to be taking place over the coming weeks. So, as you can see there on the 17th of August next week, we have the third Q&A session, which is on climate change and water. And then there's the general one on the 21st of September, which is a general one where it's sort of open to, you know, sort of whatever kind of questions or things people would like to ask the team. So yeah, we really hope you can all join us for that. So we've got five more minutes. I'm just going to go through a couple more questions that we've got here on the screen as well. You can see how you can actually get in touch. So whilst these questions are really helpful and we hope that we are answering the questions that people are really interested to find out more about, it's really important that any comments that you have on the area of action plan, positive, negative, neutral, please, if you can send them in formally through the process, more information on the website or via email or by post. That's how they need to be kind of sent to us so that they are properly registered and responded to. That's just the way that this stage of the planning process works. So we can't take your social media comments, for example, as proper representations to this consultation. Okay, so just moving on to the final couple of questions that I've got here. So one of the questions is about, will there be any restrictions around the type of businesses in the mixed use development areas? How can we ensure that the types of businesses needed by residents are provided close to where people live? For example, things like grocery stores and things like that. Matt, would you be able to help answer that one, please? No, we're not looking at any significant restrictions. I think as long as what businesses go in in terms of mixed use developments, ensure that you get a satisfactory environment for both the business and also the residential or other uses that are going to be co-located with them. So that tends to be managed through how you lay out the buildings and requirements for soundproofing or other things like that. In terms of provision of services in the area, yeah, that's why we're essentially promoting these sort of four activity centres. What we're not looking at is large format provision, say one of these Tesco mega stores or something like that, that actually attracts lots of people in from the surrounding areas. We don't want further people coming by car to do their grocery shopping here. Certainly, we're looking at smaller Tesco metro type arrangements where all your local convenience needs can be met. You'll still have banking, you'll still have other retail service provision, library, GP surgery, all those things that a community needs to be self-sufficient in terms of its everyday general needs. We're looking at obviously cultural and other provision that will primarily complement that that's already taking place within Cambridge City Centre, which again is highly accessible to residents and businesses and workers within northeast Cambridge by sustainable means. So you're looking at complementary provision. We're also looking at how we might facilitate, obviously a lot of people do most of their regular shopping, if you like, online these days in particular as a result of COVID as well. I think we've seen an uplift in that. So we're looking at logistics hubs and last green mile type arrangements where your Amazon delivery package gets delivered to a sort of hub within this on the edge of the site. And then it comes to your door via a green delivery for that last green mile or you may go and then pick it up. You'll get the text message to come collect your parcels. And likewise, we envisage the same thing will work for grocery shopping. You would put grocery shopping and things like that. Great. Thank you, Matt. OK, and then I think we've got time for one more question. So we've got here there's quite a culture of having client meetings in person. I think this is kind of related to the business kind of office floor spaces. So lots of occupants at business parks will be used to having people visit by car or using their cars to make sometimes two or three different client visits. A day to all sorts of different areas around Greater Cambridge. Would the vision be that public transport would improve to allow all of these visits to still take place? Or are we looking at businesses being encouraged to subscribe to car clubs so their staff didn't need all those parking spaces? Yeah, I think it's a combination of all of those things. If people can access the site by sustainable transport means then that's what they should be doing. If they can't, certainly for the workforce, if it needs to go out and visit other sites and do other things, car clubs are the way to go. Pull cars and the like and even pull bikes. But if you've got clients who are coming from somewhere else that may be doing two or three stops along the way and public transport doesn't suit their requirement, then again, there's no restriction on people having visited a car parking. And likewise, even for the residents who will be living within North East Cambridge, it's not about not having a car yourself or access to a car. It's about promoting the right sort of access to vehicles. Not everyone needs to have a private vehicle and a private car park in the space. But again, we've seen the benefits of car clubs and shared car pools that then reduce the need for car parking. And alongside that, if we're promoting a greater accessibility to public transport and improving cycle connections and walking connections, then we anticipate and we hope people will take up that as the primary first option, especially for those shorter journeys that should be done more sustainably. That's great. Thank you, Matt. OK, we've just come to the end of the Q&A session. So I'd just like to say thank you very much to everybody that joined live for the event and also those that are watching this recorded via the link on our website. Thank you very much. I hope you found it useful. Also, thank you to Matt and Joanna and the team for answering the questions and also the technical support, which has been great. Just like to just remind everybody that please go on to the website. If you would like to make comments on the draft area action plan, the consultation ends at 5pm on the 5th of October. So that's a date for the diary. Please please please make sure your comments are in by then. And there's also a Q&A webinar feedback form as well, which you should have just seen the link to on the screen. These webinars are quite new to the council. We did one last week. This is the second one now for North East Cambridge. Obviously living in a kind of social distancing world at the moment, it's very difficult to do face to face consultations as we would have done previously. So we would really appreciate any advice or any thoughts or comments on how these sessions have been running so we can take those into account moving forward. And with that, I'd just like to say thank you very much and thank you for joining us. Goodbye.