 Coming up on DTNS, that time Microsoft almost bought TikTok, Netflix may be in it just for the games and Amazon did it! They announced a robot! This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, September 28th, 2021 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. Joining us, senior writer for CNET, Erin Carson. Welcome back to the show, Erin. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you for joining us on a day that's mostly Amazon stuff. Oh my gosh. I thought, you know, they'll have like a couple of product announcements, maybe a few things to add on at the end. Strap in, folks. We've got a lot of Amazon to talk about. We were just talking about Sarah's new discovery of gingerbread flavored almond butter on Good Day Internet. If you'd like to understand that and more, become a member at Patreon.com slash DTNS. That is where you can join our top patrons like Paul Thiessen, Ollie Sanjabi, and Andrew Bradley. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. WA Beta Info, the WA standing for WhatsApp, reports that WhatsApp is developing an iPad app and also the ability to link another phone to the same account. Currently, WhatsApp allows some beta testers to link an account with WhatsApp Web, WhatsApp Desktop, and Portal. With the new feature, when WhatsApp is open on a second mobile device, the app will download all messages from the server without the main phone needing to be online. After linking a second mobile device the first time, WhatsApp will sync chat history using end to end encryption. WhatsApp is also building a feature to transfer chat history between iOS and Android devices. One password has partnered up with Fastmail to launch a unique email aliases for logins feature, which is similar to Apple's hide my email function in iCloud. There's other services like this, but this will be built in to your password manager. The email aliases do not expire unless you delete them as a user. The US FCC announced it will open a $1.9 billion program to reimburse ISPs for removing network equipment deemed a national security threat from Huawei and ZTE. This mostly impacts rural ISPs. The program is open for applications from October 29th through January 4th, 2022. Imager has been acquired by Media Lab, which already owns messaging apps Kik and Whisper, lyrics annotator Genius, and viral video aggregator WorldStarHipHop. Imager, which was founded in 2009, is a gift to Reddit, claims it has 300 million users, although in 2016 Reddit switched to hosting its own image uploads. So they gave the gift back, I guess. The Facebook-backed To Africa undersea internet cable was announced back in 2020 and planned to link Europe to Africa. This is being expanded to now serve the Middle East and India when it goes live in 2023. This would be the longest internet cable of its kind at 45,000 km and serve up to 3 billion people. Alright, let's talk about Netflix's gaming strategy because apparently I'm wrong. I was fairly sure Netflix wanted to make games that extended the experience of its official video properties that seemed to be borne out by the first games being themed around Stranger Things, but subscribers in Spain, Italy, and Poland can now play Shooting Hoops, Teeter Up, and Card Blast in case you're wondering. As far as I know, none of those are based on Netflix shows. You can find them in the Games tab in the Android Netflix app if you're in one of those countries and then tapping on a game from the app takes you to a separate Play Store listing where you can download it and then you sign in and play with your Netflix login. But yeah, unless these are three hot new reality shows coming from Netflix, this just looks like Netflix making games, casual games. I hadn't heard anything about this because I'm not a Netflix user in Spain, Italy, or Poland. I'd be really interested if anyone's listening in any of those markets. Did it seem like there was a lot of buzz? Was there something when you log into Netflix that let you know anything about it other than Netflix getting the word out on its various Twitter feeds that are country specific because it's pretty quiet. The company seems so quiet about these rollouts and I know it's a test of sorts, dipping a toe in, so to speak, but I'm surprised that the company isn't making a bigger deal about the fact that they're testing in certain markets because companies do that all the time. Aaron, what are you making of this? Yeah, one of the things that has stuck out to me about this whole gaming initiative is the reporting so far is that Netflix is saying that this is not going to be an additional cost to the subscription. I think that that, like you were saying, Tom, maybe initially went to some of this idea that maybe they're going to be focusing on content that really just complements the original series, but it seems like their sites are set wider than just that. Now, Roger, you brought up the idea that maybe these aren't indicative of their future games, that they might just be testing the distribution system with some easy-to-make casual apps or something. It might be they just want to test the plumbing, as it were, to make sure that the stuff can get out to the subscribers and that they have a relatively positive experience with it before they really kind of let go. It's like kind of serving up appetizers before you throw in the entrees to the diners. Yeah, that would be the only thing that makes sense to me, honestly, because I've not been convinced that Netflix wants to take on Stadia. Obviously, these are casual games. I think it's quite far from that. It's weird if they just going to put casual games inside of Netflix. To me, that that feels like adding games to Twitter. Or, you know, like I know Facebook used to have a big game section. And some of it was fairly popular, words with friends and stuff like that. But it always felt a little odd to just to tack on a game section to something. This feels tacked on to me. Well, speaking at the Code Conference, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella told a story about that time back in August of 2020, when Microsoft almost bought TikTok. Nadella called it, quote, the strangest thing I've ever sort of worked on. Nadella says that TikTok approached Microsoft looking for a security partner. Nadella was intrigued because it was a cloud-based service using sophisticated AI. Those are focuses for Microsoft. But as quickly as the opportunity arose, it disappeared and TikTok let Microsoft know in September, just one month later, it would not indeed move forward on discussions. This is so weird. It was a weird story when we covered it. And I think it's even weirder that he, I guess they kind of pressed him to talk about it a little more. But he brought it up that it was the strangest thing he's ever worked on. And I think it will stand as just an aberration, a thing that was of its time. Didn't make sense. But I thought it was interesting that he did sort of confirm what I suspected, which was the cloud aspect of it, because people are like, why would Microsoft want TikTok? They're horrible at social media. And it's like, no, no, no, they they would want the back end part of it. They would they would want to be the provider of that because it's another way to prove Azure. And he sort of confirmed that. Yeah, I think this is kind of like backstory that we just live for to get like a little bit of a glimpse into this blip that was, you know, I don't know if outright dominant in the news cycle, but was a big deal last year. Yeah, you know, and at the time it was, you know, there were governmental reasons why TikTok was going to have to, you know, change its business model or get scooped up by an American company. So even though the Microsoft buying TikTok thing was very weird, it was not as I mean, it seems a lot weirder now because the that, you know, the the landscape of the political side of stuff has has changed somewhat or at least died down. But yeah, I remember for about a week being like, is Microsoft going to buy TikTok? This is crazy. But indeed, it did not. Yeah, no, it felt like it needed to be taken seriously at the time. And now it looks like no, it was never serious. So so there you go. Hey, folks, if you like tech news, check out the tech John featuring Rob Dunwood, Terence Gaines and Stephanie Humphrey taking a Humphrey taking a second look at the week's tech headlines from an African American perspective. They are breaking down the new Microsoft surface announcements. They've all got different use cases for it. They're talking about delivery rights and rules and labor unions and all that sort of thing. It's a great weekly supplement to your tech news. Go check it out. The tech John, T H E T E C H J A W N dot com. Subscribe now. All right, Amazon announced dozens of new products. Let's start with the big display. Everybody kind of knew this was coming. The Echo Show 15, a wall mounted 15 inch, 1080p smart display. Amazon says it's meant for common areas like your living room, your kitchen, maybe a hallway that everybody uses. Like previous Echo Shows, it can play music, show weather, stream video and control your smart home devices by voice. That's not new. However, because it's so big, half the screen is the carousel of content you would see on all Echo Shows. But the other half can show permanent widgets. So you can choose widgets like always have my shopping list up there so I can glance at it or my to-do list or my calendar might be a better one or weather so you can just glance and see what the temp is. Your smart home controls could be up there. So you could just go tapity tap right up on the screen. Amazon will offer some of its own widgets as well as make an API available for developers of Echo Skills. So if you use a skill on your Echo, there might be a widget coming along for that. You can also make the screen a full screen photo viewer if you want. It's got kind of a picture frame look to it. So that makes sense. It can do picture in picture with your doorbell or security camera. Well, your ring doorbell or your ring security camera. Amazon announced that support for TikTok and Sling TV is coming to all of its smart displays as well. They already have like Netflix and Hulu and Amazon Prime Video. The camera can recognize who's looking at it and customize the content so that to-do list could be specific. That also includes limiting content for children. If it sees a child is asking it for something and only give age appropriate stuff. All that visual identification happens on device. It's not even shared between devices. Thanks to the new AZ2 neural edge CPU, which uses four cores and 22 times as many tops, trillions of operations per second than the AZ1 comes in a black frame with a white bezel. Some accessories like a stand and an under cabinet mount will be available as well. Coming later this year for $250. Who wants an Echo Show 15? I kind of do. There's certain things about it that I think are, you know, I can't really think of the use case. For example, I have an Echo Show and I play a lot of video on it. And I wall mounted Echo Show 15 that was in a hallway, say, seems like a sort of strange place for me to watch anything that's longer than a couple of seconds. But for all the smart home stuff makes a lot of sense, you know, like my Nest thermostat is in a hallway, for example. So it that coupled with lots of other ways that you can, you know, quickly check your shopping list or, you know, various notifications, weather kind of stuff. I guess it just depends on your home layout. And if you want something like this in a spot that you don't already have a display of some kind. Yeah, I always kind of, you know, want the question answered of like, why is this screen that shows me widgets better than the other screens that I have that show me widgets? But I think there's possibly a couple of things that it has going for it. I mean, it seems to be part of a trend from some companies like Samsung that are trying to build products that blend a little bit more seamlessly into the home. And I'm sure for some people having the option of, you know, putting it on a wall versus a counter might, you know, be easier for their their own layouts. Yeah, and it's certainly not the first of its kind, the sort of product, but it ties in a lot of things. Some of which are ecosystem dependent. So if you're in the Amazon ecosystem already with ring security and a bunch of other echoes, it's going to be more compelling. But some of it is just, you know, being able to work with Z-Wave devices and smart home devices as a hub is something that with matter coming down the road, it's you should should theoretically be able to use all your devices with it. At least, you know, sometime next year, that's the hope. All right, let's move to the small display for small people, at least small young people. The Amazon Glow is a device that lets children make video calls. Sort of looks like a really old cell phone in a dock has an eight inch display and portrait orientation for kids to see who they're talking to, and it also projects images onto a 19 inch white mat that you place in front of it so that kids can interact with it on both sides. So the adult on the other end needs the Amazon Glow app so that the kids can play games together or draw or do puzzles, interact with books, there's all sorts of stuff that they can do. Amazon partnered with Disney, Mattel, Sesame Street and Nickelodeon on a variety of items in the Glow app, which is available on Android and iPad with a FireOS version coming soon. The Glow device can only call the Glow app. It can't directly call other Glow devices and only the contacts are able to be called that are added by parents. They also put Amazon put a physical shutter button on the right hand side. You can cut off the camera and the mic if you want to instantaneously. It's available by invite only for two hundred fifty dollars comes with a year subscription to Amazon Kids Plus and a two year warranty against breaks and spills. Amazon will also sell add on packs for extra games, not included in the subscription. And it will eventually sell for two hundred ninety nine dollars. So two fifty now, two hundred ninety nine dollars eventually. First units will ship in October in the US. This is so weird, but it's just weird enough to like totally catch on. I can't tell you. Yeah, it's the white mat that you place in front of it thing that kind of gets me. It really depends on, again, what's your setup at home? Do you have this kind of space? Does it make sense for, you know, if you if your kid has a best friend that they're not going to be hanging out with in person that, you know, are they going to use the sort of thing with the fun kid interactive, you know, games and and etc. that are available when the within the Glow app on both sides? Maybe it seems like a lot of work, though. Yeah, I mean, you know, when when I see a device like this, that is dependent on like a or has like a very specific single use that, you know, one of the questions that I always have is just like the the content that's going to exist when it launches. And it's, you know, it seems like a good first step that they are partnering with, you know, Mattel and Disney and some other places like that. But they're going to have to kind of keep a pipeline up of this is the kind of device that you're going to interact with on a regular basis to make it worth it. I know $300 is a lot for something that my niece is going to get bored with after two calls and maybe within the first call. Like all she ever wants to do is turn our faces into the chocolate ice cream on FaceTime, which is what she calls the poop emoji. So like I don't know. I feel like this is very well intentioned. I wonder just how it's going to work in practice. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Not part of this event, but also announced Amazon's gaming unit released New World, a $40 MMO title was originally announced in 2016. Amazon's gaming unit struggled with big titles in the past. It ended development on breakaway in 2018, killed crucible shortly after it was released because of a poor reception canceled. It's Lord of the Rings title in April, but they finally did it. Looks like New World might be a hit. Eurogamer says it's got half a million current players on Steam. So, wow, they did it. They released a video game that people are at least playing. Maybe they even like it. Kind of surprising too, based on the fact that the gaming division really seemed like, ooh, miss after miss. Yeah. Well, do they even care? That kind of thing. Cody Bellinger, my goodness. Yeah. All right, let's move into some security products from Amazon. The Ring Always Home Cam, the little drone with a camera that flies around your house is a real thing. Yeah, if you're not there, it's going to fly around, let you know how things are going in your house and it's available by invite now. The drone sits in a charger with its lens blocked when it's not flying and only records video when it is flying. It can fly autonomously. It can integrate with a ring alarm system to investigate activity. You know, ring alarm says something's going on. The drone can go check it out. You can also manually send it to specific viewpoints like a door, maybe a stove. It streams and records in 1080p and it's viewable from the Ring app. But it only has a five minute battery life. So it's not meant to continuously patrol. Sort of for specific things. It has obstacle avoidance tech, but one of the reasons it's invite only is because Amazon says it wants to test it out in a wider variety of homes. If your invite is accepted, you can buy it for $250 in the US shipping later this year. Yeah, I thought they did a good job of of addressing a lot of the privacy issues. Obviously, this is still an Amazon cloud service. So if you don't trust him at all, you're not going to like it. But, you know, the fact that that camera is blocked, the fact that it only does five minutes at a time on the battery life, I think is a plus for a lot of people. Like this thing isn't going to accidentally just keep flying around, spying on you. I wonder how it works with pets. If you've got pets that are free roaming, I signed up for the invite. And one of the questions that asked are, do you have free roaming pets? And I said, yes. So I don't know. Yeah, I that is that is a concern. The five minutes of battery life, I read that and I was like, what? I mean, you're supposed to be in my security guard five minutes. I mean, what if, you know, it takes me about five minutes to kind of like obsessively check things that, you know, I thought I left the stove on and whatever else I might do. Or maybe my ring sends me a notification, you know, that there was some strange activity in the house. And so I'm really trying to be thorough about it. I mean, for five minutes, I mean, I guess it can go back to its dock and recharge right back up. Aaron, what do you think? You know, it's interesting, I was talking to one of my colleagues earlier and he was kind of commenting on the approach for how Amazon is, you know, introducing this and rolling this out. Like today, we didn't learn a whole lot that we didn't already know, but he was sort of, you know, talking about this idea of ring just needing to be sort of careful in how it puts this out there and kind of like testing the waters, engaging to see what responses. Because, you know, when this when this was first introduced, there is, I mean, it was like a bevy of, you know, pieces that came out and folks just sort of expressing concerns about privacy. So it feels like there's a lot of kind of testing in the waters happening. Yeah, which is probably one of the reasons they're doing invite for this. I mean, they also want to make sure it isn't crashing into ceiling fans and all that because apparently high speed fans is something that it was having a problem with. So there's definitely, you know, minor risk in testing this for them. But they think they've got most of it worked out. So probably a lot of it is like, OK, let's prove that it's not a big privacy risk to people. At least that's what they hope. In less dramatic security announcements, the Ring Alarm Pro combines the security systems hub ring alarm security system with an Eero Wi-Fi router. Remember, Amazon owns Eero, combining Eero into a ring product. So local image processing, that's called Ring Edge, never gets sent to the cloud. Local storage for your images. You still access them from the Ring app, but Ring itself doesn't ever get them. You have them on an SD card so you can keep them. Swap out SD cards if you want. Also acts as a smart home hub for your compatible Z-Wave devices, though not Zigbee, which is odd. Also not Thread, which is what you need for matter support. But those could be added in a software update, they said. Ring Alarm Pro costs $250 for just the base station or $300 for an eight piece security kit. That includes the base station plus sensors, motion detector, keypad and a range extender for Z-Wave. Pre-orders are available now in the US shipping November 3rd. Ring also added a subscription package just for this device called Ring Protect Pro, $20 a month, $200 a year. That manages your local storage one downside. You can't use that SD card storage unless you're paying for the subscription, even though it's never in the network. But you do get 24 seven internet service from the built in LTE modem. So if your regular service goes out, this will kick in. Eero's security features are included. That's like phishing protection, stuff like that. And you get the usual cloud storage if you want it and alarm monitoring of the other ring subscription options. You can add a ring power pack to the hub by USB-C. I didn't see how much these are going to cost, but they add eight hours of battery life to your smart home system. So you can daisy chain up to four of them, get a total of two days of battery life without external power. If your power goes out for two days, you'd still have alarm system protection and internet. The Ring Alarm Pro's built in LTE connection can be used to keep your Wi-Fi working as well. They're not limiting it to just the security system. Now, keep in mind, they've got a three gigabyte cap on the data you can use in the included Ring Protect Pro subscription. They'll charge you an extra three dollars per gigabyte above that. You can also designate which devices you want to have access to the emergency network. That way you might save on usage if there's a power outage. There's also a portable version of the Ring Alarm Pro for job sites that provide cellular connectivity and Wi-Fi for cameras and sensors and has a case so you can pack it all up when the job's done. It's called the Ring's Job Sites Security Kit. Everything from there can be preordered at Home Depot for four hundred dollars if you want the job site version. For those with the Ring Alarm Security System, you can choose to upgrade to a virtual security guard. Extra ninety nine dollars a month gives you professional monitoring. This is if you can't afford an actual security guard, probably mostly for small and medium sized businesses. But instead of just responding to alarms, it responds to motion. And then the person monitoring can talk to somebody over the speaker or sound a siren or call emergency services. Ring is adding alerts specifically for packages coming to Ring Pro 2 and 2020 Ring video doorbell first and other video doorbells next year. So it can tell you not that it just saw motion, but a package was left. The spotlight cam battery is getting custom event alerts that you can train it on yourself. You can train it to tell if the garage door is open, for example. Both features are part of a Ring Protect subscription and Amazon announced a new blink doorbell, not ring. Remember, they also own blink. Blink doorbell has a 1080p camera with a two year battery life for 50 bucks. A floodlight camera mount starts at 40 bucks and a solar panel mount costs a hundred thirty dollars bundled with an outdoor security camera. All the blink devices are available for preorder on Tuesday. Ooh, lots of security stuff there. Aaron, any particular catch your eye? Well, this is something else that I was actually talking to one of my colleagues about is, you know, the ring alarm pro has so much integrated into it. It's like that's so much going on that it's like a really idea concept, really interesting idea conceptually. And we're very curious to get it into our like smart home here in Louisville and actually test it out and see. Yeah, just just exactly how it functions. Yeah, my only downside there was that it's not the Eero pro. It's the previous version. So you're not getting the higher speed, but they say most people don't need that. You can still add an Eero pro if you want. But it's it's intriguing. Well, you might say, gosh, Amazon announced a lot of stuff today, but we're not done. We're moving on to some other interesting products like Amazon announcing a smart thermostat in partnership with Honeywell. It can detect when you're home to adjust temperature, learn from your preferences as well. And of course, you can control it with your voice available for preorder now for $60. There's also a new Halo fitness band that now comes with a screen. It's called the Halo View. It has an AMOLED color screen with haptic feedback that can display activity history, workout tracking, sleep scores, blood oxygen levels and text notifications that sells for $80. And if you subscribe to Amazon's $80 per year Halo service, you'll soon get two new programs, Halo Fitness and Halo Nutrition. Halo Fitness offers hundreds of workouts coming later this year. All the rage and Amazon's in it, too. And Nutrition offers recipes for healthy eating that's coming in January. I mean, it's, you know, it's Fitbit plus Apple Health or Apple Fitness, Apple Fitness. You know, it's this is the Amazon's version. Yeah, I think if you're these are the two products that I think probably will get the least excitement. The thermostat's great, but it's not above and beyond. And the Halo service, I haven't heard a lot of buzz around it. I don't know if you're a Halo fan out there. Let us know. But maybe this gets more people into into the system by by offering a nicer, a nicer wearable with the screen and a few more services feels like Amazon's got some work before they catch up with the Fitbits and the Apple watches of the world. Yeah, Amazon also announced a few new features for its voice assistant across its platforms. You'll be able to train it to detect custom sounds. This is similar to its ability to detect glass breaking, but you can train it. So it's not just glass breaking. You can say to detect dogs barking or something. You provide the device or app with six to ten samples so it can learn what that noise is. Training happens in the cloud, but detection will happen on device. So if you were to train it on something bad happening, you'd have to make the bad thing happen, which I think is a little odd. So I'm not sure exactly what this is going to be used for. Custom sound event detection coming next year. By the end of this year, Amazon's voice assistant will be able to learn your preferences better. You can specifically train it by saying, learn my preferences and it'll do some stuff for you. But it'll also try to remember what skills you associate with a particular request and then keep using that skill. I would love it if I didn't have to say, tell our groceries to add something to the shopping list, because if I don't do that, it adds it to the Amazon shopping list and I never look at that. However, they're going to start that preference learning with weather apps, then move it to other skills. Also, Amazon will include a Disney voice assistant that you can activate by saying, hey, Disney, Disney will offer interactive stories, games and other services featuring characters from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars and more. And devices that come with the older AZ1 neural edge processor. But that is a more recent processor and it's not in their older devices. We'll let users choose to have their voice commands processed on device and then be automatically deleted. If you're like, I don't want them to ever be on an Amazon server. You can choose that. The fourth Gen Echo and Echo Show 10 are the first devices that will get that feature with more devices to get it in the future. Who's excited about the new voice assistant features? Well, so the Disney voice assistant is it's only for Disney related interactivity. You can't just be like, I want Mickey Mouse to be my new voice assistant voice. It's Disney skill that you can use. And then when it reacts to the skill, it might have R2D2 beeping at you or something. But yeah, sure. I mean, I don't know. That'll certainly appeal to some folks. Tell me, though, hey, Disney, tell me the weather and then Chewbacca tells you the weather and you're like, I don't speak Chewbacca and then you're really confused, I guess that might happen. I would do that daily just for giggles. Oh, again. What do you think? What do you think the weather is? It could be anything. Yeah, anything on these, Erin? You know, the only thing I was going to say as far as like the kind of custom alerts could have some potential for accessibility. You know, if, for example, if there's like, you know, somebody rings the doorbell, you know, maybe a custom alert might, you know, tell someone who perhaps has hearing issues that there's somebody at the door by, you know, turning on a specific light or notification or something like that. So yeah, maybe there could be some some good uses there. And going along with that thought, Amazon announced it will replace its free Alexa care hub with a $20 a month expanded service called Alexa Together. The service is meant for caregivers to use with a family member who needs assistance. So, you know, often it's used for seniors or people who need a little extra care, offers a feed of voice interactions, the ability to help manage things for them, like their reminders shopping list and music services without having to have access to the device. You can do it through the app, offers a fast way for you to get in touch with each other or to get in touch with an emergency helpline for them. It's compatible with fall detection from ATS and Viyaar as well. And when it's available later this year, new subscribers will get it for six months free. And if you're existing care hub subscriber who got it for free, you'll still get the new Together service for free for a year. But then it will cost $20 a month after that. Well, we did get a robot from Amazon. We looked kind of bleak last week, looked kind of bleak, but Amazon came through our new Amazon robot is named Astro. It's a smart display on wheels, has a Periscope camera that can expand its field of view. It can detect sounds like breaking glass, can also detect smoke. And if you have Ring Protect as a subscription, it can also patrol your home while you're away. So it's kind of your companion when you're home, but it can also kind of be your eyes and ears when you're not home. If you're on a video call, it can follow you around the house or play music that never is too far away from you with its speakers. It does Amazon's visual ID so it can deliver messages or even things to people. If you drop a beer in the cargo bin and say, take this to Erin, it would recognize Erin and then she could get the beer because it was for her. I do not disturb mode limits how much it can move. And you can also set out of bound zones that it won't enter. It's designed to be on one floor. So at the top of stairs so it doesn't go tumbling that sort of thing. Astro would be available in limited quantities later this year at an introductory price of $1,000 eventually selling for $1,500. So that introductory price is quite a bit less pricey than the eventual price. You know, it's kind of interesting that I was reading a, everybody covered the Astro robot this morning, but I was reading the Verge article on the Astro and in a couple of places it said, and like the Roomba it can kind of make a map of your home and like the Roomba it can get itself back to its charging station when it's done doing its thing or when it needs to charge up. And I kind of, I know that the design would have to be completely different for this to be the case, but why isn't it also a vacuum? That would be like the killer robots because you wouldn't always have to be vacuuming something but like I have a Roomba and having a Roomba and an Astro sounds crazy, but having two and one makes so much more sense. Oh, you know the next product is gonna be called Rosie and have that, right? I wish it was already that. The jet team will keep, will go forward. They can't even do it under $1,000 without a vacuum though. So like, you gotta give them some time to bring that price down. I signed up to maybe get invited to this as well, just because I wanna see. I just wanna see what this thing does. I wanna see what my dogs do to it. I wanna find out what it's good for. This feels like the kind of thing where it's not obvious what it might be good for and might not be good for anything. But I'm curious. The way I was with the Echo, when the Echo came out, nobody could tell what it was good for. And I was like, I don't know. I feel like it's good for something. And it's become Amazon's dominant product. They dominate that space. So not saying they'll dominate robots, but this will be interesting to watch. Aaron, do you want an astro robot? You know, I had kind of the same question as Tom earlier. I was like, I'm gonna have to talk to my cat about that. I don't know how she would feel. And I've already got her following me around. But yeah, it's another cute robot out there. But yeah, I did think it was kind of notable that this one seems like it'll be more available. A lot of times when we see robots, they are either just like incredibly, incredibly expensive or their concepts. So we'll hopefully have the chance to see this in the wild a little sooner. As pricey as it is, it's relatively cheap compared to other robots. That's for sure. Yeah, I already have a Velcro dog. I just can't imagine being like, okay, okay. I went into the bathroom, you're following me with the music that I'm playing. Now I got to step over you because I'm real. You could stop it from doing that. I don't think it will involuntarily force itself Yeah, it's like the mandatory new best friend in my home. I don't know. If you want the Astro, if you're going to try your hardest to get the Astro, if you don't, anything that we talked about, Amazon clearly announced a large slew of products. Do send us feedback. 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