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So on that, we had a few discussions among us from, I think the 3-4 people we were discussing it over the whole week about how crafts and taboo exist in India. And so we sort of divided, we found that, okay, there are like these sort of four or five categories which you could see in the green, which was like, you know, there are some places where a material is tabooed which started with this idea of bone China where actual process used to have bone inside it, but since it is not preferred object since it uses animal product, in Gujarat, they sort of changed the process of bone China, so the craft got affected because of the material and I think there's a current trend of using weave and leather which sort of is criticizing the use of the animal leather and the cruelty-free materials, so Dhruv, you want to add in, so we'll have a discussion over here, I guess. Yeah, I just want to, like, the only thing I want to add is that if we are looking at taboo is not just as negative connotations, like in the case of vegan leather, it is actually propagating a philosophy of veganism, which is, I don't know what's the morality of it, but then yes, it can be used for the key here is that taboos and the effect taboos have on communities can be used towards preferential purposes. You can choose to change the narrative of a taboo towards something that you want in a particular scenario, so that is the idea that we kind of gathered from here. Yeah, so basically we had this one other territory called Unfamiliar which we left open for interpretation because we thought that we are categorizing taboos as either the activity of the craft is tabooed or the place where it is practiced is tabooed or in the sense the ownership of the craft is a very interesting idea. I think Praveen, we can elaborate a little bit on the categories and then we can move on. Sure, so I'll start with, I think, materialism, so like the practitioner thing, so that is, I think a lot of people have faced this in their practice as designers or even in their own professions, which is a very obvious divide between male and female genders and you could even add third gender to that. So there are particular groups which are given a part of process to do, you know, so it's like women are only allowed to do this part of a craft which may be related to washing or dying of the clothes and men are acting more in the part of creating let's say block prints and things which require strength. So there's a divide in our sort of a taboo of work, like women working or taking up the role of other person. Essentially. Yeah, and then with the place of practice we realize something about like exotic dances which came from observation of something which we have in Kathak dance. So there's this whole concept of social stigma towards Mujras which is. It is happening. Even if it is a form of a dance of a classical dance. So that was about the place which gets taboo. Activity is something which where we were looking at, you know, something like tattoo making becomes a stigma at times or a taboo that, you know, like a tattoo practitioner is a person who is not looked upon as a choice of career or even considered as part. Sometimes we are not saying because since we are also progressing. It's like crossing a social boundary to attain a person of being a tattoo practitioner and the association with occult and all the mystics and so it kind of brings in that thing that the profession gets a little taboo. And in the context of India, so I also want to reiterate that. Yes. And the final one I'll say about outcome of the taboo which I think a lot of us during our education appeal or even when we see in newspaper paper of something where you know a famous painter is getting sort of attacked for creating a new portrayal of God or goddess. I think I'm a person had a lot of such incidents and something like even when we are studying anything or any project related to arms and ammunition, like making it or as a product designer. You know, I know a lot of product designers who are like not allowed to even make a ash trace. So there are like certain hidden taboos even in value while you're getting educated in the instance. I remember that one of my batch mates actually wanted to make a smoking device for various kinds of herbs and leaves and it could have been a very interesting product design and empathy building exercise but then purely because of this inhibition towards going into that area of you know. Yeah. I recently saw a product like that in a sponsored ad. What have you been surfing? I have no idea maybe herbal teas or something. Sure herbal teas. Alright. So interesting outcome is very interesting. I think this is the most tangible form of experiencing taboos. Praveen, would you agree? Yeah and on that I want to agree what Thiru said. We had a small session last Sunday over taboo where I think few of us sat and discussed it for an hour and we shared experience. I hope few of them can again share it with us today. So there was this first point which came up obviously is that you know like even taboo. Even just talking about a taboo is a taboo in itself. So that was an interesting point for us because you know like crafts when we are talking about craft and taboo it became sort of self-reflecting that okay since we are also talking about taboo or anybody who talks about such taboos gets it's a starting point of experiencing a taboo in our system. So in our craft ecosystem also I felt like this is the first part where you are not even allowed to talk or even like hear about these things. We start this culture of tabooism or this particular social setup. Nice. I'll just move ahead. Okay so I'll take this one. Yeah yeah. So the entire idea again reiterated. We mentioned before that taboos are generally restricting in nature. Ravi in that hand could you move it. Oh sorry. Taboos are generally restricting in nature. They are enforcing boundaries. So the connotation is generally negative. But how do we change the narrative. Like till 2020 it's a little dramatic to say that Abhithak taboo is a negative connotation and they restrict you in doing certain activity or expressing yourself. Like it's just restricting and the connotation of restricting is negative. But how do we change the connotation to enabling. Like can a taboo can a restriction of some sort or can an unsaid boundary enable a preferential scenario in a certain future that we are. So the whole exercise that follows is basically this happening. So we can go to the next one. Yeah. Yeah. So this these are taboo cards and so before like right now. Yeah. Saying that you will take us to the activity now. Yeah. Okay. I think we shared this link in the chat. Again. Do that again. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So if you guys want to join in please join in because we'll be just having most of our discussion. Even verbally like we don't say that it's required but we would you know like invite you and your thoughts on these things. You know like how when we are talking about our crafts and our bad news. This is something of a template we are going for. So what we can do is like there is a board at the bottom which is called taboo cards. I think a lot of us have know what is the game called taboo. So what we would like us like together is to do is like you know if you identify with a craft you could write a craft just do a double click. Okay. I think you have to wait. Yeah. I got it. So yeah just double click the first one and you could put a craft there and what taboos you think that craft is associated with right now. We'll just like to know and have a discussion over it. I would just take once everyone. Yeah. Okay. It is preferential if you are on a laptop. So we mentioned that in the description as well. But even if you are on a phone you can keep looking at the screen. If you don't have access to a laptop you can keep looking at the screen and in the chat while we are doing the activity you can just type in your input and we'll make the card for you. Okay. So we are not doing anything. So we'll just make your cards and for the people who could join us on the mirror board I see I think eight people there. So excluding me. So what mirror board is it's a it's a co-working platform and most of the people who have been doing workshops with us would know what it is. So it's a very easy intuitive platform. There's a board and there's a toolkit on the left and there are multiple. So the T is the text box and there are sticky notes. There is a shape maker. So you can use these beyond the workshop as well. But for the sake of the workshop what we are doing is we have a we have made cards for you. And if you double click on the craft text like the text feels there. So they become editable. And don't try to move around too much because it might just change. You can just copy the can they copy the entire card. Yeah. So you can do control C control. Yeah. You can do control C control V. It's very intuitive. It works like an office apps mostly. So yes. Now you can take one. All right. Yeah. Okay. So I mean I'll start with this thing where we were just discussing about. And I'd like to know more about you know like what each of us have something like this. So I was starting with something like knitting sweater where my mother used to make sweaters at home. And at that time there was this offer in the sense that I was not allowed to even buy something from the shops. So for me that type of practice where you can just go and buy a sweater from a store. It was a taboo at my house. So I think I didn't wear ready made sweater till I was around 13 or 14. Yeah. But like I don't have an issue with that. But it's just that I know that there is some practices which started just at my own home only and without any. You know like I don't know like whether somebody told this or not but it became a thing at my place. Right. Just go down. Am I audible. Yeah. Yeah. So I see people already making things. So the behavior research is a craft. So also like craft can be anything that you associate with even letter writing of sorts is a craft. And even if you code even if you make even if a graphic designer so that can be a craft. So the definition of craft is quite up for interpretation as per how you see craft. We see craft as an act of making. If there is an outcome and an individual method of making or a practice of making we take it as a craft. So yeah. All right. So I'll also come to the mirror board now. And if anybody is having issues using it just let us know. We'll help you with that. Yeah. So what people have moved on to the next activity Praveen. Are you seeing that. Oh really. They are doing something there. Guys that is the next 8.1 board. We can go on to that later. First we can stay on this one. So I'll just do an example Praveen. If you can share the diamond. Yeah. So let's say a craft for me is. Just a second. A craft for me. I like fitting rewiring lamps. I like to do that. And a taboo in my house is not using the right safety gear. That is like one taboo that I can quickly associate with. So that's a safety issue. But then it is enforced through a taboo that we cannot be seen meddling with wires without slippers and gloves. Okay. I think Samira has finished behavioral research. So if she would like to open her mic and just share her experience also that would be great. Oh sure. Hi. Am I audible? Yes. Okay. Of course crafts. I'm still opening up to the idea that anything can be crafts. So I think this was one of the attempt towards that direction. Behavioral research or research in general. I mean the kind I do. I mean design research or whatever we want to call it. It involves a lot of going to new people, new communities and sort of staying there for a couple of days or something like that. A lot of times I feel like as a researcher you are supposed to and more so if you're a girl you're supposed to completely change how you are in your regular life and you're supposed to go there and just sort of be a completely different person. So in fact one of my mentors also once I think told me that make a choti and look like a Radha or something and just go. The idea was like just look kemped and of course what we look like is maybe not the standard kemp. So I was so yeah I mean you're supposed to completely change who you are and go and research and I think it's a problematic taboo. I mean I have put things which are just taboo you know maybe not yeah Radha Kutyo maybe not something which is problematic. Because we can if I do be a little critical about this then we can say that even the empathy building exercises that most of the design schools know that the propagated way of building empathy is to be that you are. First of all you have to be who you are to understand who they are right and we are supposed to be taught that you just have to be you have to look like them or something you know you can't look like them how do they look I mean it's I think very problematic on this. It is also of course it applies to one gender more than the other. I mean it applies to more than the other. Yeah I mean it applies to two couples of genders more than one gender but I think what is more weird is that a lot of instances have happened but one thing stayed with me you know village and this one girl told me that your eyes are white or eyes are yellow. I said what that didn't make sense to me at all she said no anyone who comes from the city their eyes are more white than ours and I'm just like that. के वो कैसे चपाओगे, तो दाई सोड़ा गज्स में तो के वो ता दी स्टबूस विद रीसर्च यो नो, तो आप तो लोगती लेग देम अद भी लेग देम, यो किन जिस भी आज्सर्ट ते वो डादव, आप एक एक वो दादव प्रप्रेष्ट यो अपने नोस्ट, आप � वो ते वो ते रेजरड, मैं टाऔगलगी जी से उसन्नग और नोज़ी किन नेजर वो गडाद स्यान, आख्ग्गाद दिए कुआँँँँँँँँँँँँँँँुँँँँ, देम, आप वो विदे उंज्सा, वो लगा, शुवस, चाएज़्ग, बैस कर कर, सान हो गडं भाहड़का किचिन जांगर जांगर आप जगा बादा किछिचिन और दीनिंगाम किचिन जांगर इसल्जा जांगर दीण पैनद्दामेक पाँदिशन रिए साचना की जब भी ज़ानारेणों चाना कतमनी अगद at the meat hana on  Stitch Man ca  food because during our discussions  द्रू� We also shared a similar experience related to Not cooking per se, but if you want to talk about ॐृुू।।।।। if anyone else would like to share their thing because I can see a lot of guest inventors, so I don't know who to call, yesh you want to, sorry, very very interestingly we are already looking at positive who is a lot of them, yesh you can am I audible, yesh yeah I don't know it was like very weird to tell someone like someone coming up to me and telling me to cut my hair just because I am uncomfortable with long hair or keeping a hair bun and it was just weird and I don't know how it's not accepted at many places and at the same time to even to even speak about the profound experiences or certain I don't know intellectual things to elders is like you is not appreciated and it's like I'm always surprised about it to not to speak about it or just to keep it to myself so it's it's it's kind of weird and strange for me and I just encountered like three or four days back so yeah and so it was in like it was in the service in parts of Gujarat, the south, southwest part of Gujarat where I went after five years after all my design courses and after all my transformation and and it was totally different experience that how the local methods and local practices are there and how it differs from the urban sphere so yeah some fresh experiences this is very interesting if a member of a community goes away for a while and obvious transformations like you are mentioning I think these are transformations that every student after having an education goes through you know you do get understanding of the world better you like I also relate to this one that up until a point of time I wasn't allowed to speak in family matters even like pertaining with and some matters with which I had a little experience and this was very decent and like I had to change that narrative like quite forcefully in my family as well and I think that is one grain that we are not allowed to go against the elder green I think it is there a little culturally ingrained I can relate to that yeah I think there is plus one through someone says this is a very ingrained thing I think you all agree to this and what did you study yeah I've just finished architecture studying architecture and but I have more interest and passion with fine arts and photography so yeah so I'm just like self learning painting and visual arts okay if anyone else like to go and like share their card or even like some of their experience or guest meero hero I like how they name people meero hero and inventors yeah art using bar charts using 3d pie charts bad graphic design is really taboo I've understood you know like people will pull you down on social media and like do not even care if you had an education or not this is something I felt really strongly about that some establishments in India who could not really afford comic songs are largely taboo but I've got to know that it's able us to hate it because it's good for people who are dyslexic or have any other learning disability so I think we are almost at the time so we'll move ahead yes rasek you can just you know like come in in the conversation because we prepared it like that yeah don't want that you don't record no no if you tell us we'll clip it out okay so we'll move ahead I think you guys can keep adding to it if you find something you want to add there we'll move to the second part which is sorry which is I think you won't explain like how we are going with the world building exercise now alright so for world building we tried to use the same category categorization of taboos that we showed you guys earlier we just made it into a field of thoughts what we have done is we made this section wise division so you can go into each section and what the thing is right now is we have fast forward into the future so right now we are not at the present stage so a little dissociation I would recommend that enforce a little dissociation we will have to move ahead with the present if we come into a very simple language so for that what we can do is we can change the connotation of the taboos now what we can do is we can look at the activities or outcomes or materials or implications that we want on the future as individuals we must have our own aspirations that this is what the future should be and this is what the future shouldn't be so can we enforce those through materials so a very naive example is and a very important example also is microplastics that if we just make the use of this material associated with the connotations of taboo which is shame and punishment and outcasting a certain practitioner from the community can that work towards our advantage if microplastics become the subject of taboo and utmost shame to the practitioner or the user and so an activity can be land filling which can be really preferential to stop this activity so we are looking at preferential taboos now so I think the can we go down a little bit towards the categories so we have ownership so we took the example of our traditional craft here so this particular craft is called theva so I will just share a little anecdote I worked with a particular family of this craftsman during an event during a pravasi bhartiya it happens it used to happen I don't know if it happens anymore so to capture investment into Indian businesses so as a student of ISED I was a volunteer with working with a family of craftsman so theva is a family run business and unfortunately due to the culture of the bride moving away from the parent family or her nation family they do not teach it to the girls of the family they only teach it to the men of the family for the sake that the craft remains within the secret of making that particular gold or arriving at it's actually very similar to if you guys have heard of Kundan Meena the very traditional practice from Rajasthan so if this particular taboo is like just preferentially reversed then can this become a taboo that only men or only one gender owning a craft becomes a taboo that if a craft doesn't have gender diversity then that particular craft is tabooed so can we have such narratives so the idea is this to add preferences so we just you guys can have a look at what people are doing and we'll also try to pitch in a little bit and you can get the hang of it it's a little forceful in the sense that you have to really look into preferences of the future so and usually future doesn't work that way we all know it is consequential but somehow if it weren't consequential if it were aspirational if it was intentional if we could really have control of the future then what are the things that we rather not have in that future I think that's the kind of exercise we are looking at yeah and just for like sake of simplicity you could let go one section by one section and it's it's up to you whichever idea you want to choose something like I when we were discussing or just making this template I had the idea that okay like in future work at home becomes a place of practice taboo you know like if you are working at home it will be looked down upon because the home is not for work and it is because I think from the current trend there is a whole I will I will say it's a now mainstream trend where people will I think start working at home more and more with remote working facilities and technology so for me I as a preference I think that you know like at home people should not be working since it doesn't require you to work at home you could work from anywhere if it's remote working so for me as a place of practice taboo I thought that work at home can be one and I think Samira also added one call religious places without green cover so adding to that I'll also add something which a lot of designers are product people and people who use Apple a lot. शादणव। Today, which is something called planned obsolescence, which is an outcome, which we, or I as a preference, donít want in future. अए अद था वो लोगी रहा हो। I wanted to be a taboo that if you do a planned obsolescence, then it should be looked down upon. You should not be, you should be sort of outcasted as a product. आप अदार आप रवल बसक्वा कोनावार दश्फारी लिएक का लड़ाना कमी हैं रीग के लगा वोगते हैं रहीं। आप रहीं करेजी वॉआन तीले टाश्विद वॉगते रहीं वोगते हैं । mom um um um um um ुदियों औंगक आद, को आदेग से जाएन लिए आए आज़़़ु काझकों कोई चाजी कार्ची इसे कोग्तारग Vishakya kagrishin these six categories you could place it i think on the right side. There's a yellow card so you could even place it there if you think that what you are aspiring to doesn't come under these six categories. आदद भी बाद आजी दोगा नहींगा एक बावाद करता था चाजागेगाhad like a tabu system like a moral system for arriving at tabus and through that we look at the future that okay the future might look like this in the system so it's kind of a I think i'm just confirming do you mean something like do no harm and you know that those kind of rules specific thing would would give it more definition like तो मुँ आप यह तो आपचा चनी हूँ, लेग वे वोग मुझे वे और तुआवग पूर्टि touchdown? अगर छुदों में लाई वोग मोर शोग को वोग जुग तुग बी आप तुउपे लिग तुआव ग्राद में वोगलेग है चूँए यह तुछ बस्राउग ठी. वना पूँछ़ा है, अराक्तिशानी अरी ममें लेंगा और, सुछ़ा खॉच्ठ के अपनटी ठाओगा का लिसा लिए कि लेंगा थी अग्दागा दीटिन्ता हैद. क्री अग्दा के लिए ब्ल ची रॉठाओ़ा लू़ खे। ॐ pain to a psychiatrist, ॐ therapist is not looked on. ॐ So maybe, we say in the sense that, ॐ okay, not keeping up your mental health is our taboo in the future because I think, we prefer that people take care of their mental health. ॐ And also in recent narratives, in my classroom as well, I have seen that mental आपने क्या सी आपकट होंगे और ज़ा। अज़ा बाम सतग पर लोगी हैं। लेंगा और साथ वेख्टनार सीग तेरा देगा राफाट खुल और ज़ा। यो से लेगा वी बचाथ खुल. अपने क्या, और कॉल का जादी बनर तानबे है, अर लिए प्रोरी मैंशियं, बत्री तरे थे, बत्री सेगे ऍे। अत्री है, नहीं थे गी तो या सोगे, सेदिज्गन्या मेंच्तिजा के लगतेंगा, सब थो ठोगोम क्या आप पी हैं, दे अनीमोच्तिजा आप ख़िए तो आप मेंच्तिजा, स्वाद्रोंगा्टाटांगे नहींगे। ते हे विखिचों तुध्जाद्तां करे गगाटी स्थादे since भी अगर वीवडिया दीम कुझ्रात लगत लिएश करईता लिएश कर्ईता, यो वो थी कुझ्रात यहगि अग्ए भतनावे ड़ादी देगाग है, चात्दा गिल के लिएश्एद रोत नमके लिएश कर्छी, नहींता लिएश करी रदा यह कर्ईव्च्छा, नहींता वो ज पने लिएद आपकोए चवीले ज़़ी, दर वाज़े चिनतारे, तो थो जो सावाय लगार मुझा, पर ख़ Cincinnati, गर ईशावावावावावा इप शल्द तब चाल्रिए, पर भी चाँई जो तब वो काई ब्रजितर कोने रहींगी, आद्या of preserving an art form as it is, then it might not be a preferential scenario if I'm a curator of a museum, let's say, and I want like a very traditional museum, and I want things just, I don't want to document change, I want to document things as they were, anti or frozen in time basically those kind of concepts. आद्या of preserving an art form as it is, then for me the change in the craft practice might not be, and that too to an industrial material from, and then you can have an angle of cyclic because the craft wasn't meant for masses in the first place, so maybe bone use was a cyclic use because of the food habits the bone were utilized properly. आद्या of छिए औब ? ज़ी बतादी, जब औ़ा आच्टाउ, चागी बतादी बतादी ज़द्चार दी है, गए। आज नहीं, द्चा ज़ा आड़ा गय ज़ी। और आदिकर हैं। तो ऐंतार, जघर जैन्बादी गरदा है, दिया, परकादे बादे रहा कि अपी पतादादे, ठोगे वोअ, ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ days विवी सुत ओंकोंडने के लगा है ऑी का बने आस पर् living वया वायउज मोस रोष कराक overview रोच तो थेबबकोन और पशाष नगस थी कि ब़ tableुौत की, identifier या उसके लगा k अगिमें़्श़्ें हो सदिय थब अगिमन्सा бог भत of his preference is उस मेलवाना शाद कुळीके इस vulnerable लिज parcel लिज möglichst man पराएअ , either औरी, स fuzzy दी लाए, वो ख़नी वरट उ szyी वंआद विख लगा, दी लए � 검 falling ॔ições Commentating the resources । । । । । । । । if we choose to look at them after the workshop there will be so many conflicts and there should be because there are so many different people how do we conflict in the traditional process we do have interesting tools... उसा कोन्सा काक जिदिया के तुए सब दिया जेदिये जघातितं। कब आपा ज़ेद्रेछि रना कर्दिया कर्डनाशा। नहीं वो झो वागा हो मैं,। आप तो जाएगीगीगेगे आप, जो जे वागा वो झो तुई घरादिया। अरे बाग़़शा में बागला थो क्या अग़ा है? और अग़ा वाग़ा बग़ा और भी धापना बी चाहुट, मैं वी वाग़ा मैं शुतुगे, वो वो शुत गर हेकनुक्र आप देख देख शुश्रानी नगी या जानािजा वीलोंते है। तर तब क्लड़ कैं अगरीग थीचोंवाई ना लेँग येजाए। नहीं एक और एक व्सगार मैंटिकी ज़़ाए। विलग चान्दे क्या और तो था, वीलों और तो व्सगार क्स गोंद्पना का चाहताना के लेगा। धिन में टॉटेँक नागे समथ के भी वीसे दिया है वे कि सक्षाओ जागी तो बहुद में चागा बादें गया और वी बुर्दष्णाती. रोग बहुट ग़ी सावर जाएे बादले चीखासे. च्नेज मेंप्रतेद् लगें प्छ़्द्चद्या की स्प्सट्पॉश्ए़। when you go there, you sort of break this taboo in the sense that you gain that knowledge and then you start you can start practicing this place. I would like to propose a counter argument of both of the college things because I would like to stand by the institution. So I am just saying that our colleges like like there are problems with the institution but can we have what would be a more specific taboo. Can paid education should be a taboo I think colleges can be better off without a financial burden on the student I think expectation from the student there should be some other source of revenue. I think studio spaces for natural sciences or design or arts should be community based they can be paid like practice spaces I feel can be community based so that there is a possibility of learning there at least yeah informal education should take the least amount of learning space in our sorry formal education should take the least amount of information. Can we what kind of a category would it be I am just thinking. I am thinking maybe activity yeah. Most of things with taboo is an activity. Yeah yeah yeah nice it's place it there. ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ ॐ  अदे मुक्ले,ने अच्यायी औब तेरत्रईगी तुअद, ने कुषग जागते अप फरीविस ख़लन्गी नागी जागते का चाएगे चाएगे का जो विर्दाे था दापे में मेंगा कि क्या शब करत्रगते है, आवाट नीवगी बी बाट नागे ज़़ा लगा वाचा दो मुझात करतीग हैं। और अदर ज़्ज़म मिना वो जावार। how do you say it wow this is a very conflicting one okay i think you started with this one teaching you know that old adijna i'm sure people remind you of those who can't do teach and those who can't teach they teach gym oh okay i never heard the second part yeah i never heard the second gym part so that was news maybe it's like added over the years i've added a sorry there's a lot of commotion in my house but i've added a it was shared by my husband agar a book by fred motton and another gentleman i can't remember his name about under commons it talks about a place of study and how the kind of undercurrents of studying within the institution as drogo saying that perhaps not to be so against institutional education as such are you know sort of spaces in themselves where things are happening sorry i can't articulate too much it's okay omega we get the point and i understand where coming from don't do that yugi sex i want to understand whoever has written this sex should be a taboo interfering no no i thought she thought it was switched off we are entering your home we are sorry i think there is a there is a framing problem there i think we definitely do not want a future okay i i would have love to understand this one owning your partner let love be in the space between people so okay let love be in the space between people i might have a conflicting idea i understand i understand now this is very tricky praveen yeah i get it for us also it's tricky but good we are able to stick with it okay can i ask or may i ask because i would like to understand depth from future because that throws a very interesting point to us since we are looking towards would you zoom in on that a little bit yeah depths from future i understand the depth from other countries can be a taboo about the ownership i would love to know more about depths from future yeah no one wrote that we can do a check who wrote that it's an interesting idea guys why won't you tell us we can continue through you want to continue this or no i think we can move on to completing the activity now because this is the final frame can we go back to the present mode we can continue doing and adding to this and so we have a small process after the activity as well yeah so the activity was these were the two exercises we had for today's activity and now if you have certain narratives which i think particularly for this particular exercise this doesn't apply so much but the second thing you guys can join the discord channel in which we already have a conversation going on about speculative we have a small community where people how do you say are talking to each other and some people are not here with us today like Shreya so she is also pretty active and she keeps sharing she is the only one who keeps sharing so much which helps the community so if you have any interest in this way of thinking and understanding design and art and a lot of things together you can join the channel it's a nice conversation it's like owned by everyone so it's a channel that we are also a part of and we can go to the next one Praveen yeah and we would like to thank some people and can you go to the first slide ok yeah the cover yeah we would like to thank prohail vetia swiss arts council particularly the new daily office and for accepting our proposal and for the now on open call and this particularly has helped us in the conversation more effectively able to procure certain tools in with some people ambika you want to say something sorry this is happening on its own not a problem so support from the prohail vetia team has been very essential for this particular lake to happen otherwise the narrative would have been very different we wouldn't have been able to connect to a lot of you guys in this way it would have been some other passive way and we can now quickly go to the last one again and before that I would also like to thank Ayush who made these graphics for us this time because we are looking for people who could help us in thank you so much you are welcome thanks Ayush we will be moving to the next step for our process which is sorry ok which is to sort of give shape to these futures in different formats and different product form or graphic form or maybe visual or audio narratives so even if you guys want to join in and pitch in or help us give some of these futures shape we welcome that we would love to do more of these collaborations for this last leg of the project correct and also we would like to thank Nanditi and the HASGI team and Ambika and Nanditi have this organization called Ajayabkar and you should I am not able to figure out what these guys do exactly but it's something very interesting and it's exactly what cross disciplinary things are all about like you can never figure out I think and so this has been possible I think this is the last public workshop that we are doing after this we are going to be doing one workshop a little bit a student group where we have a certain exercise in mind and it's going to be a little more detailed and thank you for everyone who has been coming to our workshops and entertaining these things that we make in weeks and you guys come to test it out and it has been a great help and when we have the narratives ready we will make it a point to contact you guys and let you know how the contribution actually helped us in arriving at them and I think there can be more possible ways of including all of us again and we are constantly thinking about them for now we have understood that we are not doing zoom calls for a while because it has been getting a little saturated but anyway it's like a great thing to have people come to you when you have ideas that are new and people making it their own in a very effortless manner you guys just take control of the board and that's the most amazing visual that gives me the kick that when the noise starts happening on the board I say okay it's working whatever we did so thank you for that yeah yeah after yeah I think we can and we just thought I would throw out to the group we would maybe do another zoom not in this session of an activity but maybe to discuss few of those narratives which we will be building in the coming month or a few days if you guys have if you guys have the time then we will be and yes Nanditi we were thinking after getting the taboo sheet we were thinking making a taboo game out of it now we can have you can open your mics and your videos if you want to like if you have something to tell us or just add please just do that Ambika and Nanditi were saying something no no no okay alright we can end the live thank you