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I watched GP back down the guard from baseline to baseline talking the whole time. He looks at me I'm like what the hell this dude is doing bro and I think at that time like you know say he's just yelling right I'm like what's up he goes you tell me. I used to tell my guys before the game no matter what Gary says don't talk back to me because we do not want we let this we did that say you're not to sleep in dog lie. You know my ego was a little big and thinking that hey I know I can get a shot off and he might be good but he was right he didn't let me get a shot off and you know that kind of hurt my ego. We switch yeah we'll switch he got the big man on him he post him up that's when I knew I was in trouble. He's talking to me he's calling the play he's throwing the ball like y'all and still scoring the ball still in the ball and then you take his heart from him and then you go down and kill him on the other end. Trash talking is an art I think probably to me I may have missed some guys but UNGP were the best at it. Where'd that come from? I'm gonna top ten. I'm gonna be top five. I always say that the trash talking you got to be able to back it up right so the first thing about trash talking is I would I would actually consider who was talking to trash and then if they have the ability to back it up the weather I was gonna actually engage with somebody. Gary Baden and Charles Barkley was two of the arguably best trash talkers I ever experienced. I saw Gary Payton control the referees, his coach, my coach, the crowd, the lady in the front, the guy who was on the side of the Minnesota game sitting in the bucket. He was controlling the whole game. So we had a KG back at All-Star and we were just talking about the game and the history of the game and obviously your name always comes up obviously is one of the great point guards but also one of the great shit talkers and he told us a story how you you back someone down from half court and you had you was in the rest ear you was in the defender's ear you was in the coach's ear you was talking shit to everyone all by all wife still running your team. It's magical. I watched GP back down the guard from baseline to baseline talking the whole time. Shut your ass up, throw up twist. Hey, get his ass in here. Hey, come up. Hey, you see the hand on the hip, call it if you see it. I'm like he's managing all this. He's talking to me. He's calling the play. He throwing the ball like y'all and still scoring the ball still in the ball effected in the in the huddle he in the huddle he got the thing he drawing it up. I'm like yo GP to me was like masterful. Hey people don't understand how hard that is to be able okay one you got a guard guarding you from taking the ball out you talking to him telling him he ain't finna take the ball the coach saying something to the player why you why you dribbling you tell the coach to sit down one of the fans say something you tell the fan don't worry about it. I got this. He hand checking you talking to the rep. Hey get his hands off me ref. Get his hands off me ref. Then you telling you then you tell the player say get over there get up and I got this. You backing him down. Hey people don't understand how hard that is to control the whole game. Only great players can control the whole game. That's multitasking at his finest. Yeah you know I was so cool because I had a coach that'll let me do whatever I wanted to and coach George Carl. So you know I used to always call the plays that I think was more effective for myself and didn't get my teammates involved. So I used to call a play called one up where I get on the left side and it just be one it just be one and when Kevin was really talking about it. It was on that one side where I turn my back and I bag him down but I'm talking to everybody at the same time. He tried he tried to come and try to steal that moment. I'm a spin on his ass and he threw that did he gonna be all bad. So you know it was one of them plays where you nobody could defend it. Gary Payton actually used it to get fouls to get his teammates fouls to get guys in and out like he was just he was just a control free. They didn't know what the hell to do with it. So I took it to a vantage and then I still start killing them and it was fun to meet man and she was hella fun just to basically know I could control somebody with my mouthpiece and then affect them in a game. You know if you went to a party with Gary he's doing the same thing. What a dream set. Hey see well Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday. Hey what's happening baby. You need an extra. Y'all ain't drinking shots over here. Hey shot easy. What's going on. Get them out of here man. Who are they. All right. What's happening. All right. Yes sir. KG. O B F man. Original black family baby. All right. All right. Here with my boy J.K. Boy I don't know what you're doing trying to be. I did it's Robin little brother but she's her male friend. Remember when he lived in Robin little brother. Man I don't understand it man. I don't know what he's thinking about but it's my boy man. Hey guy. This is GP. This is just who GP is. Drafted and I could in the day after go I get a paid man. Man. Talk about that dude. I was GP. GP. Let me tell you about first time I met GP. Because Ross Strickland just told us a story that he said he get into the league. He go to the hole. Yeah. And GP just flat out just pushed him in the sand. Hey GP bro with GP bro. We play a pickup. This is before training count. GP doesn't play. He walks in late in some overalls. Right. Oh my god. He is straight. He's straight R and B thug. Right. He walks in with some overalls. And we playing. He just wanted to disrupt the whole game. He yells. Hey hey hey. Hold hold the fuck up. Hold up. He looks at me. I'm like what the hell. This dude is doing bro. And I think at that time like you know saying he's just yelling right. I'm like what's up. He goes you tell me. I'm like I'm so lost. I go what do you mean. He goes what do you see out here. He literally just walks in the gym. He don't see any. I go what do you see. He go I see your team tired. Yeah. We've been running for like almost two hours. He's a call time out. I was like and pick up. He's like yeah. Call the time out. All right. Time out. I'm like now everybody get some water. Your team tired. You call time out. Don't you. All right. This dude just want to be a asshole. You know what I mean. I've never. I don't play pick up for years in a row with Magic Johnson. We never call no damn time out. Like you know what I mean. Like what it is the truth though. I mean that's the thing. You call time out of the game every row. Have you ever called a time out of the pickup game. Are you going to let. Are you going to let dudes get some water. I'll call a time out of the pickup game. That was my introduction to GP. Is the rumor true that you might have had something to do. You know what Chris what what it was was we were out somewhere and we're all out having a good time and we had a little bit too many you know we had a little bit too many waters and he asked me he said what do you keep. How do you keep your body and so good of a shape and don't get hurt and stay always on the court. And I just told him to real my coach George called didn't let me practice. So that was it. I said you have to stop practicing. I brought it all afloat about the practice stuff. Let's let everybody know what you really was talking about. I had just left a meeting with Coach Brown and Billy King. They assured me that a trade wasn't going to happen. So in my mind I'm thinking once we get to the arena and we do the press conference all we're going to discuss is the fact that I'm not leaving that I'm staying. If I'm the best if I'm a superstar then why is this happening man. Why is this going on. Why don't my daughter got to deal with this. Right. But all of the questions were coming. Practice practice practice. Everything was about practice. We're in here talking about practice. I mean listen we're talking about practice not a game not a game not a game we're talking about practice. And I didn't handle it the right way. I wish I could do it all over again but I can't. We had just lost. Right. You know what I mean. We put out the playoffs. So you know I'm thinking it's a good press conference to where as I'm coming in I'm letting the fans know that I'm not going anywhere. We're talking about practice man. We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're talking about the game. We're talking about practice man. And they kept asking me about practice and I lost it. And what was your reaction after you saw the press conference. Oh no not this. Don't say it like that Alan. Don't do it like that. But when he said it and I said no that was not our conversation. So essentially you were telling him not to practice. So then he takes that goes back and hence the famous practice. And I've seen the interview and I said no don't do that to me. And then all of a sudden it gives back to Larry Brown. Larry Brown approaches me when we played him and he said I had created something but I didn't Brown came to you. They came to me after a game where we played him and he said look what you created. And I said coach I did not create that. You know I said I told him what my coach let me do. And I know you a different coach. So don't get that to me. Don't do that. Why don't you say coach I was drunk. I don't know what I said. I should have just said coach I'm drunk. Yeah that's all I'm saying coach. I was drunk. We're playing in Seattle and I catch the basketball and and all I hear is I can't repeat what he was saying. But and I'm holding the basketball and I'm looking at him. And then I had to turn around and like is he is he really talking to me because he was talking so much trash. Like I had to do it. I didn't I didn't know him though. Yeah he didn't even I said didn't even know who I was. Really. I don't want to know who you were. You were just talking. I stopped for about five seconds with the game was going on. I was dribbling the ball and he was talking and I picked up the ball just to like look at him. Hey before we get out of here we're another reference we spoke to KG one time and he said that one time you pulled KG and Kobe aside and taught him some shit on defense about when to go after the ball and then Kobe applied it it was a little back and forth but we was in the everybody's talking about the 20 anniversary events winning the dunk contest in Oakland right. Which I don't know is that Kobe Bryant resting piece to my dog. He took another level of being a defensive standpoint because Gary Payton after practice after after practice all star practice pulled us to the side because Kobe asked him something. Kobe was just a little different. He he didn't have no he didn't have no ego but I'm not as a meaning he did have ego but I'm saying an ego and acts in OGs what to do and why and how to become better and when he came approached me at the all star game and asked how to become how to get make first team all defense and I sat there to at the the center court and taught him a lot of things. They pulled both of us to the side so let me tell y'all something look when you playing defense and then he went through a 30-minute joint with both of us with defense. I said this young kid has a lot of different a lot of different things in him. He's got a lot of different mentality and he kept asking me stuff every time he played me and I posted him up and I got it he would always come over to me and and sneak it in my ear oh gee man why you keep killing me on these post-ups man you gotta teach me that what should I do and that was just a big thing for me to hear that and to respect that and I couldn't do nothing but respecting and teach him the game because I know I'm a lot older than him and I was gonna be leaving the game soon and I want to see somebody in the game that imitates the things that I do and can be dominated at it and this kid was one of them guys and I and I taught him everything that I needed to tell him. Reaching it how to reach him when you reach up and just little tricks of the trade that next time I saw Kobe after the break he was using it became first team that year. That was one of my favorite players I've ever played with let alone you know the all-star game that we had in in Oakland he helped me become a great defensive player. He told me one thing he said Kobe you got to move your puppies. After he told me that everything everything clicked for me after that man I started making all defensive teams. And he made the first team all defense with me that year. I said this young kid has a lot of different a lot of different things in him. First time I see him I say he used that shit GP shows you. He saw it he saw it I got it he saw it yeah I saw it. So I caught that shit he got saw it but I knew that only the three of us was part of that so I was like you did the rip you got the rip yeah you saw that shit I thought he was gonna call a fire he didn't call that shit. Wow because GP taught us when you rip somebody to go through that chest versus using your hand you see this right he told us to take a step and come through your chest and come and then round out it's no way you can protect the ball you can't cross it back once you get in there once I'm in your cab you can't cross it up you would just have to turn your back. Oh man I saw Kobe take that first night after the break I saw it you know we weren't no texting and none of that back then but when I first saw him I shot there it was stated right here when I saw him he knew exactly what I was talking about students of the Gary off the GP for that y'all no doubt. Who is the most scared of you? Well Jason Kidd who I raised was really really scared of me meeting Gary was through his dad his dad was an all-star coach and Gary used to you know stop by and watch us play and you know our relationship started there when you know Gary was at Oregon State and I was still you know growing I was still in my diaper still playing. Gary kind of had Jason as a little brother and he taught him the ropes how to be tough he was kind of soft at first. His dad always told me you know you gotta we gotta you gotta go play with Gary GP you gotta play with GP you gotta go play with the guys and learn how to play this game because you have a lot of talent it's time went along you know I was always behind Gary wherever Gary was little Jason was right there with him. You know he toughened me up a little bit you know being you know a guy who likes to talk he talked a lot of trash and he you know would say hey you're not gonna score actually not gonna get off a shot today when we do this drill and I'm like you know my ego was a little big and thinking that hey I can I know I can get a shot off and he might be good. This basketball I can get a shot off and he wouldn't let me get a shot off but he was right he didn't let me get a shot off and you know that kind of hurt my ego. You know he would you know talk trash and like you know you're gonna go home and cry but you know the big thing was he said you know he would never say it at the time but he wanted to see if I would come back the next day and I would come back but I would you know my ego and my game is a little wounded. Gary is one that loves to you know chitchat you know loves to talk to guys on the court and fans so I was with Dallas and we were playing Seattle and Tacoma. I'll never forget this we're playing in Tacoma this is I'm in the NBA I'm playing for Dallas. I'm a rookie playing against Gary and so we always you know looked at each other always said hi but once we got you know after the tip ball we were you know going at one another and I'll never forget he's posting me up and I pretty much kind of know what he likes to do so he went into his move and I blocked it and I told him get that stuff out of here but I didn't say stuff but I and he looked back at me and and I say get it out and he see he said what and he you know I said uh oh that was a big mistake uh he went on like a 15-0 personal run Gary runs off the screen stops pops three in the air got it nothing but that 18 points for Gary Peyton and then we ended up losing the game so I went after the game and I said hey look my bad I had a I had a mental block I forgot who I was playing I didn't mean to say that to you he said oh no you woke me up and that and that definitely helped me but I said don't worry about it I'll never happen again I guess best or worst uh trash talker GP I played the GP I played against GP he he just didn't care and the crazy thing about GP on the court he was like that off the court like if you saw you in the mall maybe that time I crossed you up big fellas and I gave you that thing and you almost put your arm out of socket boy I'm a all-offon I'm first ballot boy I'm first ballot Gary Peyton Gary Peyton uncle it was uh it was seven minutes seven eight minutes of a ass whipping he was giving me see you gotta know where your man is even though you're watching the penetrator Peyton right back at him Peyton all the way technical whistle he can block shots Peyton spins away from arenas that's well done reach of Mike Dunleavy three Peyton yes five from Murphy Peyton the cell leaves it for Gary Stree yes it was just one of those things where he had with 17 all on me in that first five minutes like it was the first time in my career like the first and like especially early career you know when you early you dominate high school college no now he wasn't saying nothing that was a problem he was just scoring so it was like soon as I got on the court like when I when we started we got the ball and he did that little smirk it threw me off forward oh shit like I just picked the ball up like I'm not even near to do that I just picked it up and threw it like I guess he already realized okay he done I didn't scare him so he didn't need to talk nothing I got subbed out I ran off the court so damn fast whoo man oh that's my fucking nice like I'm like it was one of those things I was like I don't think I want to go in when he and then he got subbed out and Weber came in I don't know who he is but I can I can go against him yeah coach I'm ready it was one of those at halftime like when uh when I got back in he was like you look he ain't a i type of I would score 50 against you yeah you right you right there you go live what are you doing he's posting you up everything it was like driving like driving posting we switch yeah we'll switch he got the big man on him he posted him up that's what I knew I was in trouble like he got Eric like erie damper switched on him he backed backed him up spent faked it I'm like whoo it's not just me yeah yeah whoo just saying this ain't the NBA I'm ready for Ernie Chuck and Kenny I have a confession what's that Gary made a barbecue chicken not me get out did you really this is another story not another barbecue chicken is not sure I'm gonna give him all our little secret and that's your barbecue chicken Gary always just look for me like so every now and then I like to you know show my keema lash rug and you go to my fade away and gave me like no man barbecue chicken eat his ass make some barbecue chicken you'll see another fade away man so that's a that's true story yeah it's a true story because I use to always tell him oh they make you got barbecue chicken up in there man go in and get the ball man because you know Phil you always talk about go to Kobe side nah play we ain't gonna get it back if we go there man let's go he can double kick it back out man we good or we got barbecue chicken in there hey what's what's the best because you know everybody knows kind of player you were Gary and a great defender and and but you also talked and he's so so barbecue chicken is attributed to you what do you think when sacked in the fool he made up to when people when people are telling stories about oh I remember when I played Gary Payton and he said this what's your what was your best line what was your best smack talk you can't repeat what I used to say I'm cutting them deep they they know what I asked it was funny I remember the because I don't lot of people like now the NBA they'll ask you do you want to go on these trips and you kind of be ambassadors and I'm all my first question is Gary going because if Gary's going now I'm always going because we sit in the back and I just I'm in tears literally tears but I asked him what I said Gary you never really talked trash to me man like I was waiting for he's like oh you ain't you ain't really get into that so I just went to Vernon like you aren't even getting into it so you were just like oh do you ever talk trash to get to jet no no no Kenny wasn't really that type of guy you don't know what type of guy you want to go at and then Kenny don't go at you like that and then I you know I'll I'll talk to Chuck because you know he verbal you know and he tried to punk a lot a lot of my guys and I used to have to run up on him and and do that so but Kenny wanted to do it I wanted Vernon more I want to stop him and I wanted Vernon he put that man come on see that alone he brought him but the crazy thing and him and Vernon would go so hard at it and then right after the game they need at the same place restaurant to eat and we'd be right together okay we got we got some photos upstairs okay so what are they saying and some days I didn't go in there Kenny having it all you know I'm saying I didn't want to play some time and when that trash start coming out it make my competitiveness come out okay and when I start going at it and then when the players start getting used to me and they was like man don't talk to him don't talk to him because he's gonna get it going right and the coaches do it then I would go pick the referee or I'll go pick somebody in the stands and then you know them fans they always want to get at it right yeah it's it I'm gonna go at you I used to tell my guys before the game no matter what Gary says don't talk back to him because we do not want we let the sweet let's say you're that's a sleeping dog lie well how about this how about being 18 years old and Gary Peyton you land in the city at two in the morning and he tells you hey Perk I need a bottle of Patron and I say hey get a GP man I'm I'm 18 years old man I don't even know if they go let me you know I'm gonna find some liquor at the liquor store clothes what can I find liquor oh you better go to the club so I gotta come out of $500 to get in the club because I'm 18 right so so they they hesitant to even let me in and you didn't tell them like I'm from the Celtics like you didn't want to say anything I was so irrelevant nobody unless I wasn't playing like if you want to like it's a sad story not not on top of that that's to get in now I gotta go talk to the owner and I gotta spend a thousand dollars just to get a bottle of Patron for him to let me leave out the club with to bring the Gary Peyton okay so then when I go knock on the door and say here Gary here go your bottle of Patron and also your iron clothes that you left like that your dick is suit that you sun to my room yeah and you call downstairs to check to see if our son is down there to be present to make sure I ironed it yeah what I appreciate you don't fail and slam the door my face so okay he made you do he made you do all of that can you match that no I can't match that that's crazy that ain't right why do he need a ball of Patron at 2 a.m. because you need it man hey hey Joelle man I'm coming to please man I don't know what big perk talking about man you're a good dude man I don't ask no questions man GP was GP someone had to ask it we're going to play against Utah right I think it was like an exhibition maybe like John Stockton John Stockton so I've never heard GP say anything good about any point guard ever in my life he never said anything about you because he knew I was close to you so he'd be like that's your boy I'd be like yeah he'd be like how close are y'all I'm like close enough to where if we get on the court we probably fight okay that's all he was saying yeah John Stockton right he goes hey this boy right here cold white boy you don't take this for granted you hear me this is all you know this this is a blessing for you you know when you when you face him it's mr. Stockton he wasn't tough for you Jordan yes he was you just didn't yes he was Gary you guys didn't play against him I did Gary be honest I don't I don't play to get Gary he was a tough let me let me ask you forget the clock for a second let me ask you this seriously because when you say that people are gonna be like are you joking and they did today a lot of people I know a lot of people and I gotta get enough time to explain not to face off the number of times that you saw John Stockton but you're saying that he was more fundamentally sound than Michael Jordan we're more athletic than he was we were mad because he said pics and said he was dirty if a guy comes and shoot 12 times makes nine of them shoots eight free throws and makes seven of them that's 20 something points and have 15 assists and four steals a game and works I would call him alone it can deal with on a continuous basis and I have to play against him 97 and nine times a year that is hard to call Gary let's be honest you just didn't like playing him because he wouldn't he wouldn't he wouldn't talk back to you true that's true that's how that's a thing to I'm like yeah okay bro like you know I love John Stockton too but I'm gonna pick him off for a court I get in the game pick him off for a court I'm like damn this dude got like you know I'm like 21 just turning 20 telling us we've got real chest hair coming out of Jersey dolly yeah he's like a grown ass man yeah he's like you know man oh man grown ass man so I'm picking him up for a court and stock didn't have a lot to him but he hit them angles quick right boom boom boom boom and stock ran his offense from inside college three because if you touched him it was a foul so like you know you boom boom and I remember you get inside college like he's not he is not about to walk me to the free throw line and run the play ball to walk you to the free throw line every fucking so so check this out doc so I like I stand them up right and when I stand them up we bounce off each other the ball go right past my face I duck I'm thinking it's a backdoor no one's behind me he threw the ball at my face I look back at him he said back the fuck up I'm like yo let me tell you something it's one thing I can't do is go back to my hood and get punked by John Stockton who's a great I gotta pick him up again for a court but it was it was it was also like that invisible test if they could punk you they will punk you but if they wasn't gonna punk you then they respected you what was your best line what was your best smack talk you can't repeat what I used to say I used to get on everybody we was talking about it with Chuck Chuck didn't know that I used to talk about they mama they daddy sister they bro I didn't care is it true that you once told someone that you're not going to even be in the league next year and then you found out later that you actually hurt his feelings yeah I did you know what Lamar Odom was the one that I really went at like that you know and then I was talking about his mother and I didn't know his mother had just passed and I said a lot of bad things to him and I really regretted that and he went into the locker room and he told his agent and his agent what my agent was there and they talked and my agent came and got me out of my locker room and said that the kid the young Lamar was a young kid at the time and he was and he was very upset and he was very emotional afterwards we realized there was more than one frosty this dude was like that well you know that's why things happen off the court between players and their friends and things like that which is extremely disrespectful you need to you need to watch how he talked to other men and I had to go over there and I had to go apologize because if I would have knew that his mother had just passed he wouldn't have never been that way I said like you see I said a lot of I said a lot of bad things a lot of guys and I heard a lot of guys feelings and that was just me it wasn't personal it was just something that they get them out of their game so nothing was off limits nothing was off limits I never I never said I said anything that I wanted to I talked about your mother I talked about your your father I talked about your kids I talked about your wives yeah I'll say anything to get them mad walk me through the trash talking episode between you and Michael Jordan it looked very intense and I'm about to shut up I heard a fuck out of you just gotta tire him out and I kept hitting him and banging him and hitting him and banging it took a toll on Mike it took a toll and then resting him a little bit and then the series changed and I wish I could have did it earlier I don't know if the outcome would be different but it was a difference and beating him down a little bit the glove I had no problem with the glove I had no problem with Gary Payton well you know what during the during the time when I was in the NBA he was the man you know what I'm saying so my my mentality was always to always take the tougher guy so Michael was a was always a pleasure for me to guard you know everybody say was he the toughest no I don't think he's the toughest he's the funnest for me to guard because what I was trying to do is I was trying to prove to them people that I can do somebody upgrade as a great score and then go back at him because a lot of people were scared of him right and when you're scared of somebody it's it's never going to work so when you make somebody understand that you're not scared of them and they're a premier player and you go back at them it's going to put them on their toes and say okay this dude ain't scared right he's got offensive skills too and he go back and he ran his mouth a lot like I did right and I wasn't backing down and he wasn't backing down and that's why it was so fun it was competitive and we can say anything to each other during that time we can talk about anybody's parents anything it wouldn't take a person like right up here yeah he did that's what people want to see right he wouldn't want to see you going over here guard that person right yeah he wants you to guard that dude because y'all both of those other premier players on your team so it's starting to happen it wouldn't happen back in our day but like I said again this is their era absolutely who's the best I guess best or worst uh trash talker GP I played the GP I played against GP he he just didn't care and the crazy thing about GP on the court he was like that off the court like if he saw you in the ball maybe that time I crossed you up big fella and I gave you that thing and you almost put your arm out of the socket you can't call me boy I'm gonna all affect I'm first ballot boy I'm first ballot we're the best trash talkers of your era grant you know I think early on when when you really could I don't feel like they trash talk now as much or they're not allowed to I think the league has cleaned that up but it was definitely Gary Peyton I mean Gary Peyton was uh you know I mean I just I remember our point guard went you know early on in my career he didn't want to bring the ball up against Gary and that's really kind of how I started bringing the ball up and playing point forward Gary would talk to whoever talk to refs players coaches and other team fans yeah he talked non-stop and uh and backed it up so he was the guy that you know I think was the ultimate and it was a little personal he got a little personal at times with folks but I mean I think you know that's that's basketball you try and like you say you're trying to get an advantage you're trying to get over on somebody and if you if you back down or you showed that you were scared then he had you and I hope you guys enjoyed this episode thank you so much for watching if you enjoyed please hit that like button down below subscribe if you are new and here are two new episodes that you may enjoy so if you enjoyed this one be sure to check out these 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