 A much bigger protest was happening out inside the space. New York Times, after Seattle, said there's a new super power in the world. It's called the public. And so really, we're just developing the system whereby people can express. Electricity don't tell them what to say. We just provide the mechanism whereby they can say something. Palm Ops, known on the net as DJNZ. ElectroHippies, United Kingdom. Beliefs computers can liberate the masses. In late 1999, ElectroHippies claimed more than 400,000 people joined in virtual sit-ins during the Seattle protests. The action targets the World Trade Organization's website in an attempt to damage its public relations capacity. They say if you can remember the classic sit-ins of the 60s and 70s, then you probably weren't there. But now hacktivist groups like ElectroHippies have taken the spirit of those times onto the internet. With what's called a virtual sit-in, masses of people using their home computers can collectively ping the website of a target corporation or institution and stop it from doing business online. For quite a few hours during the WTO conference when we had our protest, you couldn't get to the WTO website. Your computer would endlessly wait and wait and wait for a response and it never turned up. This isn't an action that's launched by one person cracking a computer. This takes 10,000 or 50,000 people. To make it effective, 10,000 or 50,000 across time zones to make it work. And so we say it's democratic. The ElectroHippies started up in the middle of 1999, really as a result of people inquiring what is possible in terms of campaigning on the internet. And that's what we're really interested in doing is extending this to a bigger audience as possible, particularly people who don't normally get on the internet. Where we have to go with computer activism is developing it as a real-world thing that ordinary people feel they can take part in. So we really do have a mission to explain what computer-based activism is all about and show that it's relevant to people's everyday lives and that they can take part in it and it does therefore have a worthwhile place in society. That's brilliant. Right, got an old grey. Old grey, yeah, I got some old grey. The teapot is rarely off the boil in an ElectroHippies kitchen. Paul's come from London to visit Tim, who's also a member of a local greens group. The day is to be spent brainstorming ideas about the ElectroHippies next to big online action. Who do you want to lobby? The target is the Summit of the Americas in Quebec. Because we've got the letter writer. Yes, yeah. And I've got the distributed bandwidth thing which is going to make the Quebec action work. Brilliant. Great. So we can do that. Yeah. And then we just talk a bit about what's happening in Quebec and sort of outline what the Quebec conference is all about and what's really the Quebec state is doing to make sure people don't get anywhere near the conference. And so, you know, online action is the only viable option if you want to make a protest. And a bit about what ElectroHippies is going to set up with some other groups in America and Canada. And really it's just about having a bit of feedback locally about what people want to do locally. Right. To sort of mark the event. Because we've got this idea of real world anchors. The chickens are coming in there. Oh, they're shipping. Hey, whoosh, whoosh, go on, whoosh. I understand whoosh. Good. Yeah.