 And that's what I tell them about in in the class when they come to five meetings We give them a Bible. Yeah, I said because I said I could give it to you Which I did when I first started the class. I was giving our Bibles most of those people. I didn't ever see no more Yeah, yeah, I said so we feel like if you come to at least five classes That you're ready to receive this I said but step 11 say you got to seek him through prayer and meditation Meditation to improve your conscious contact with him Praying only for the knowledge of his will for you and asking him to give you the power to carry it out Let me ask you something When you teaching these and when you teaching these individuals you give them a book after they came How four time between five time? Yes, and once you give it to him see See how you got it you have to the behavior patterns have to drop off like Paul say I counted all things is done. Yes, and he had to let everything go in order to gain Christ Right if we don't let things go. It don't matter how many books you give them. They got to let that stuff go That's in them. I'm telling you now and you're right because it's a process But the coming it does help but it's so Much into letting go those behavior patterns that got you held up That's how you was empty because everything had come out of you come out and then you had replenished it with the word So this is behavior patterns. You see where I'm coming from Yes, like the lion the stealing the cheating the the hormongering the the drugs the alcohol Yes, all that stuff have to be released from you and all it's so those are things you have to stop That's right And even with me like coming out of prison and not doing those things it was still a lot of temptation is there But but but to me it wasn't it wasn't as well When you came out of prison when you came out of prison did you go back you went back home to Longview? Yes Because I know that the first time the couple times when you went back to Longview all the temptations everything was there Was easy the devil go go so the difference this time of you going back is because you had God in yourself When God sets you free You're free indeed the transformation So when you saw those people that was still offering it to you I'm sure they were I see it Tell them all the time. I tell my pastor this I see it. I smell it One of the girls that the in my in one of the classes says she walking the store You know how they have those beer counters in front of the store the bus says she walking the store Her body just told her trembling. She can't even be in the store with that You know, but she had been delivered. She ain't been delivered But that don't I'm talking about my wife smoke cigarettes. Don't bother. It don't bother because you've been delivered It's the word that once it cleanses you man. I see it. I smell it I don't know you can be in the same because a lot of people have to move out of the community that they were in Just to get away from that to be able to you know concentrate, you know what I can honestly truly say Then I'm an overcomer not Brad, but but I am bragging on Jesus, but it's only God and it's he knew That I wanted it and I fought for it. I talked for it I even got to the point to where I got angry with God. I wanted it so bad I wanted them dreams to leave. Yeah, but they wouldn't leave Yeah, and I would dream about it night after night and I pray about it before I lay down I said Lord, please and I in my dream I'm smoking that pipe a hundred miles and all and I'll wake up mad and I wake up mad But I wasn't too mad to get in my word I did not let the devil make me that angry, but I was mad, but you're getting that word I'm getting that over you and you got delivered. He was older. He's forty-something forty-seven forty-seven forty-eight So you were evicted for twenty-some years. Yes. That's what I was over twenty-five Let me just say this when you when you got delivered that you the people gotta understand this And I talked to juvenile kids about this one. I went to talk to him the other day He delivers you he meets you where you at That's right If you don't change why you locked up because there's things going on in there They show if you change the night as well. Hey, come on now You see what I'm saying So you don't have to wait till you get out So many people try to make it a wait till you get out when you got to know if God touch you Right where he touched you at in that sale That's such you gonna know because it's activities going on around you that pretty much you could condone But you don't even feel like dealing with them anymore. I was done. I was done brother Man, I got I've got guys that called me that I was incarcerated with I've got one brother that called me He said Gary Nelson. I just want to know man Is you the same person that you were when you were we was locked up He's I've called so many our Christian break that was in the faith part. He's saying they tell me man I'm saying in this I'm doing yeah, he said they was in the faith part with us. Yeah, I said Joey I Said man. I was serious. Yeah I said that's really it used to make me so mad when I would see a catch out in there And you know, he would kind of make it hard for the people that's in there Yeah, that was really humble. You got a wolf with sheep clothing on mixed in there You know and he man and it used to make me so angry. I said, but man, I've got it I've got a hold on to it. I've got one brother who I just come from Eastland seeing two days ago He tells the people and he wants me there every time he tells his testimony because I was in the conversation line I was in the conversation line one day and I was so happy because the money I got was far in between And I was happy and I was feeling good in the Lord and I was singing a song about old blind but a male Oh, yeah, I hear the Lord passing by And and the young man heard me saying the song and when I got through saying the song He walked over to me and he asked me. He said sir, can you sing that song again? And I was kind of shy about it, but I sung it for him again two weeks later Here come the man in the faith part while I was dragging his bags He he done got moved from a dorm to wherever he was. He was coming in the faith part Wow, he said man He said I come over here because I wanted to feel the freedom that I saw you felt in that Conversary line. He said I want to be set free man. I tell you it's a it's a it's a revelation to where he's living it today Where I went where I went this weekend. It's in Eastland, Texas All right He live on a golf course man while big Lake was because when he came into the faith part one week later This particular man that on the golf course and this he does prison ministry He came to the faith if you're not in the faith part. This wasn't for everybody at the prison This was only for the people in the faith part He got to go to the kingdom man retreat out of all the people in the kingdom man retreat the man This is the person that he attracted this draw to the man this particular guy So when he was moved away from the prison the man continued to write him when he got out of prison They let him move to Eastland, Texas to a place. They got up there called the redemption house a really nice place He's got a really nice job. He lives on a ranch He's doing excellent all because he heard me singing a song in the commissary line I'll hear the Lord passing by he was delivered brother Well, you know the thing earlier when you was talking just to go back and reflect a little bit, you know What you had when you were talking earlier about being delivered, you know and and a lot of people they don't get it You know, they get the same blessing because God he you know He shined the sunshine on the just and unjust and and we know that that these things happen But I was tears came to my other day when I was talking to my brother because I won't Let like you coming on here today I'll have to reach back or say something to somebody to tell you Thank you for coming on the show because I thought about those ten leopards that was healed and that one Samaritan that look back Yes, you see what I'm saying because everybody can get healed But everybody out of out of ten only one only look back look back So and that's the part you got to be I want to be that one that praises God For what he's doing for us man. That's my niece told me today She said uncle you are so faithful because man I went to Eastland like I said from Longview. It's four hours. It's yeah Yeah, it's on the other side of Fort Worth I went there Thursday evening and I stayed there to Saturday morning when I come through here Going back to Longview one of my grandsons had a birthday party We all went to Cheddar's last night when I got home from Cheddar's I was so tired with the bed with my clothes on and everything Yeah, yeah, I woke up at two o'clock this morning. The enemy was trying to tell me you're too tired To hold the engagement that you want to have but those was the lies that I used to listen to He cannot get me with the same old lies no more because he can't tell me that I'm too tired because I know that I can do All things yeah, yeah Christ who gave me see this in you then he this in the world So I get on up. I get to my Bible. I go read my word I go get in the shower and get ready to come and do this because I'm the one of the ones They want to come you all look back. I want to come back and give to the people that and I had bought my parole letter I want you know, I want to share my parole letter with y'all that this is what I wrote to the parole board They got me an F. I'm not gonna say it got me an F. I won but this is what I am and What's so shocking about my if I won Man guys what an F. I won is is when you got 45 days to be released Okay, and I'm glad you said that oh, I gotta let them know, okay But I'm glad you said that because that's what I'm putting that's what I was finna say I didn't know how to say it. I had the most unusual F. I won that they ever seen in the world Well, I got my if I won on a Friday and I was leaving prison Tuesday Wow Yeah, cuz once you get it you got 45 days and eat after I got it on a Friday and left on a Tuesday And left on a Tuesday because that's who God was for me. Wow, man I'll tell you even in prison my friends have to remind me Gary. You're locked up Because once I was set free. He was friend. Yeah, mentally free. I was mentally free But this is what I wrote them. I wrote I said But Board of pardon and parole With much respect to the board and pardon of parole today I Gary Nelson senior come before you on the behalf of myself my wife and my 13 year old son First of all to say I'm deeply remorse and ashamed of my offenses Even more ashamed that I have to come before you today for my actions I'm not proud of the action. I'm not proud of my actions But one thing I can say that I'm thankful for is the classes that I have been a given an opportunity to take That I know that have changed my life tremendously to be a better person and a productive citizen of the state of Texas and Also a more devoted responsible and a reliable husband and father and if and when I'm granted parole I Will give back to my community By talking in churches and even on the streets Telling and sharing with young men and women what I learned in TDC To help them from coming to TDC to help some from coming back to TDC and Some no help some from coming to TDC and some from coming back to TDC. So with that I say with Respectfully that if I am granted parole, I will be gratefully thankful and with that being said I teach Bible based recovery programs I go to all kind of functions speaking and telling what God has delivered to me for did for me I now on my own business rock your world landscaper and more I'm a more responsible and dedicated husband and father to my wife and I mean My wife and father-in-grandfather to my kids. Yes, I now have a granddaughter that has me. She's eight months old She's got me very small. Yeah. Yeah, she's the best thing that ever happened to me Man, God is the best thing that ever happened to me, but he freed and delivered me and set me free Wow, I sung a song this morning at the church. Give us a little bit of I Song a song this morning at the church is really my theme song and I would love to give y'all some of it it says I I've been healed by the Savior and I've failed fire from above And I've been down to that river and I ain't the same I'm a protocols return And all of my hope is in Jesus And thank God my yesterday And all of my sins are forgiven. Yes, they are and I've been washed by the blood I'm no stranger to the prisons I've worn shackles and chains But I've been freed and forgiven. Yes, I have And I'm not going back. I'll never be the same That's why I sing All of my hope is in Jesus Thank God my yesterday's gone And all of my sins are forgiven And I've been washed by the blood Man, thank you so much man. All right now Say man, that's what it's all about God take you in and snatch you out the fire. Yes, sir. See that's that that's what it's all about That's what he done. He snatched you from a place where you could have died. Yes, your sin Yes, sir, but you was delivered and now God has used you and Others are being delivered. Yes, you know and and you just you just don't know what God is gonna do See your testimony is just was a test and you went through all of that stuff and you still hear a lot of your friends Didn't make it. Yes, and you and you here and so with that being said, there's a reason why you went through those things Paul Paul and in 2 Corinthians chapter 12 God showed him because he asked him to take a thorn from me. Yes three times. Yes And he said my grace is sufficient for thee He says he says his strength was perfected in Paul's weakness. So while your weakness was going on God was pretty much strengthening. He was bad. Yeah, he was giving he was giving the people something through you man Yes, he was strengthening you man. Yeah, you're cuz spiritually you would be in strength. Yes, you see what I'm saying Yes, now physically you were going through all hell. That's right But spiritually you was being delivered. He was getting and you was growing and so and that's the way God works You know when you look at Jesus and I hate to go into it because I get going I can't stop Ask your question before go ahead. Um, well, I was gonna ask him a question. You might okay I want you to go back to whenever you were still on drugs and your wife she wasn't on drugs and Cuz there might be somebody else out there in that same situation and she is trying to get him to go sober But he's also refusing and she wants to give up on him. She's like I can't deal with this How could you advise a wife? What I would what I would say To a wife because my wife talks about this all the time because Sometimes we do even since I've been doing the way that I've been Doing the church and things sometimes and and I tried not to make it a point believe me sometimes I asked her to come and read with me and this and that but She got her own way of handling things and she tells me she said God have done a lot of a lot for me And she said you are proud of what God done for me So what I would have to say to a wife or a girlfriend if you really really love your significant other believe in trusting God and Pray for that person and believe that God answers prayers You know what I'm saying and put yourself in a position that that God will hear you you know and and and and it'll come through but me for as I was only How would you say this I've never hit my wife ever see I was gonna ask that question I've never I've never here So I've never was a physical abuser. It was just from the way of drugs or something So I never I've never ever hit her because I saw my mom my dad hit my mama So I've never ever hit my wife and so it was just abuse of drugs from what I did So I feel that she loved me and and and she she put up with a lot with me You know and sometimes sometimes I still don't think that I Treat her good enough for what she done for me You know she she she's stuck by my side and and like right now her body is not in the best of health She's down in her back and and and it makes me feel so bad sometime because she worked two jobs When it was just me her and Gary because like I said it was 16 It's a 16 year span between her and Gary and I mean Gary and Tabas and and her husband was on drugs And so she just worked all the time she get off one job and go to another job And she just worked herself to death and some some nights like some days like when she's paining and stuff It just it just I feel bad for her You know and then even with her being sick the way she is right now I'm more a husband and a man to her now and more Respectful to my marriage and I'll ever be in since we ever been together, you know, and I just thank God for that because yeah and it's it's It's life man. I mean you grow as you go, you know, like I said, and I'm about to get started I'm glad she pulled me Earlier because I would have been still talking, you know, because that's how good God been to me man He's you see what I'm saying. Yes, but your wife is you know She's you don't want, you know, I mean so when she's in situation, you're in that situation That's why you feel the way you do and and and let me tell you this like right now. I can see In our relationship of all the years that we've been together Would you believe that we're really just falling in love? I believe it because All that other time when it was the drug life if we was just existing Yeah, yeah, and I noticed it during the days and things how things happen Just like I was telling you Erica about people saying stuff and it kind of offend me but We just out of all them years We're just falling in love. Well, I think I totally agree with you because how could you love someone? When you didn't love yourself Come on man. That's the whole game like you couldn't love her because you didn't love you The Bible says that you ought to love your wife as you love yourself Oh, you know or basically says if you if you do something in chapter Ephesians chapter 5 You know, it tells you about how you know, you hate your wife, then you're pretty much hating yourself That's what I'm saying. I'm just paraphrasing. That's right So you that she's y'all are one man, you know And it's just a blessing man that you guys are still together after all these years man Yeah, and that you both still you still here. No matter if your health is doing this or that you get an older You know, but as you keep going man, you know Just be an example to the other people that around you like me and my wife We we looking at y'all trying to figure out how to get us 35. We only got 18 You know get 35 So I guess Matt may need to be giving you a couple of phone calls every night in cram with you And what's so good about it even like my wife's sisters They saw what we went through through our addiction and stuff and they are called And my wife will say this is Dana or Denise on the phone and they won't going through something and they want you to pray for them Yeah, and man that just blows my boat out of the water because that let me know they see to see me Yeah, and man, I'm just you know what it's funny You know cuz I remember earlier you was like going back to the same environment When you look at the Legion in Mark chapter 5 when he was healed He was cutting himself in the mountains in the tomb I mean he was going through a real bad situation and and they couldn't they couldn't even put him in chains He'd break the chains But that mean he was going through a lot like you were going right like we go through and then Jesus comes and He runs out they called him Legion cuz he had many demons and and and the demon says son of David have mercy on me He knew exactly who and so to say that I'm just saying after all was said done He was clothing in his right mind. That's right, but the thing that I looked at the most in that whole Situation that it that that mark recalled on was the fact that when you look at what happened Mark, I mean Legion pretty much Left him winning the swine and it went into the water, right? All right Then Jesus was there and then he left asked, you know, they pretty much got scared They wanted to leave he left when he was leaving the man tried to go with him, right, but he didn't let him He sent him back to the city to send him back to he sent him back to the decapolis He sent him back into that whole situation so that he can be an example to them to see for them to see who he really Exactly, so they could look at him and see the reflection of Jesus And that's what goes on in my recovery class a lot of people are there a lot of people knew me in My addiction a lot of people that are there are people some of them are people he smoked with that I smoke with this one woman. I used to go to her house You know Eric ain't gonna call her name But I used to go to her house she be willing to throw me out because I'll be telling them I'll give her some and I'll be crumbling up that don't make you selfish in more than many ways But she's one of my members and people will call her weak minded But she's 15 years sober Wow, and I thank God for her and I brag on her in the meetings all the time and Most of the people that go to that come to my classes are a lot of people that are that have been that have been In the in the drug life with me, which my mom I have them But my mom even comes to my class just even give me support Wow It's the classes are are they like an AA class or is it like? It's it's based on the same thing as a AA class But AA's classes mainly talk about how powers You know you can have a high power in my class, but I'm gonna tell you who the high power He is because I know a way that I can open up the Bible and say something about another high power in Jesus Name doesn't come out and and it's about Jesus But mine is a Bible based recovery class Yeah, and and we're in the mouth of the beast on on Marbley Avenue in Longview, Texas And it's over in the area and you know even brother. I say that when I was on my addiction. I had never Ever heard not one step from a 12-step program. I had never been a I feel that I Don't I don't regret nothing I went through because it made my deliverance But I believe if I had a friend or somebody to introduce me to that to work Hey, hey, Gary. I want you to come go to a class with me Like like some of my friends that are still out there I go try to go get them and even even a little friend of mine that I know that's in a drug Just got a drug problem I took him to Eastland with me this past weekend because I wanted him to see that you can't beat this This kingdom man retreat. I wanted him to see all these guys who have been to prison I wanted him to see I'm standing up pray man. He cried the whole Yeah, I ain't seen him. I ain't seen him because I'm here I ain't see him in the day and a half, but it he cried the whole weekend You know and like I told him I said brother and they up to me for me to for you to for me to just push it on You I said but God is gonna do it in his own time I said, but I just wanted you to see that you know, you can have fun without it We we took my boat up there. That's another thing God to give you the desires of your heart man One of the people that out at the church that I go to one of the one of the doctor's brothers Just give me a bass boat. So we took the boat up there And we went out on the big lake and rolled in the boat just having fun here late I went to sleep. Just I said, but you ain't got to have no beer. No weed or nothing I say it's freedom in Christ man. Yeah, I see you know So when I took him up there just to let him see what what God is what God can do And that's just like the people in the class that know me. I'll be I want them to see me I see y'all that ain't no joke. I said, I don't when I'm riding by myself. I don't practice cousin I said, I don't have a cigarette. I say y'all. I've been set free Wow I said God did me God did it and he can do it for you, man And that's that's that's what I'm talking about. You know, that's what that's what we supposed to do man We supposed to reach back we suppose to help people we pose to give people the word, you know Once we say we've been delivered, you know Most of the times a lot of times people, you know, they tend to fall back in the recidivistic behavior You know, I know you were saying I don't know where you're at now But God has a time and appointed time right, you know, we can't it's it, you know What Paul say Paul he says wanted water and he said Apollo so he would see he would come through in water But he say and he planted but he said that God gives the increase increase So you don't have to worry about it That's why I'm so hard on different people when they try to structure people's lives around that's right Even the way they worship, you know, I don't tell people where to go. I tell them who to know That's right. I might not make it to know building with you. That's right. I need to tell you right here So that's the way I teach I never have taught to tell you where to go I tell you right where we at that's right and pray together so man We can celebrate together right here cuz we don't know we can't change what you say the other morning We was reading one hair black or white or you didn't you say that? Okay, so basically we don't have no control over anything that we say we're gonna do anyway God worship God where we stand if it's God's will that's really what it is. That's always the way it is That's right. So that's the one thing I can say man. We got to do that part We we have to teach people how to get it off the pages and entire heart Yes, you know and let those other things go you're gonna have to let some things go in order to grow Yes, I don't ever live in regret because a lot of times people always sit down and think up think back Just like you were saying if somebody had introduced this to me You know in the past not saying that you regret anything because you're happy where you're at now Because you know you had to go through what you had to go through to be where you are now Yes, and I've learned that just plant you seed as you say to people because a lot of times you might say hey Come with me here or let me show you this and this person might not always do what you want them to do at that time But you planted a seed the next 20 years down the line that they could say well You know what? I brought this back to my or God brought this back to my remembrance because I had to go through all these steps Before I'm able to learn to appreciate what you said and put it in action to make myself better Let me ask you a question. How's your brothers and your relationship with your family well? I'm glad you asked that that's a good because I was going to tell you a real good question about my about my younger brother Gabe Gabe is Gabe is very proud of me, but you know he's still He's still going through because he's he's been incarcerated a lot in his life and I feel that He feels that he missed a lot of things which he did he was he He was locked up. He's been locked up a while back and forth and he missed a lot of things But the main thing that I have been trying to get over to him is that you can't Go back and get what you've lost Mm-hmm. You got to get where you are right now and accept where you are and thank God for where you are and move on Don't keep trying to reach back and every time I feel that he gets out of prison he falls back into the reach backstage and it traps him again and it ain't got so much to do with doing drugs, but he gets into just Hanging out with a lot of the wrong people So what you're saying is when he goes in instead of him reading his word and getting his self delivered He's not emptying himself. Well, he gets in Because if you if you change see that's gonna change the way you where you do things You're not gonna even go back the same direction you went Because there's a lot of people that read man, you both know that can quote scriptures and do all kind of things But it's something about having an encounter with God Empty yourself now. Just say you know, I'm talking about an encounter when when you wouldn't like a Paul had in chapter nine Acts when the when he fall off the beats because the light hit him if you got to have a light-hitching moment That's right If you ain't had that then you ain't gonna change your light-hitching moment was on was was somewhere In the recreation somewhere regular okay, so when the light that situation had to happen That's what you just explained. So if that situation don't happen I don't care how many times you try to tell somebody what they need to do How they need to do it who they need to know it's not gonna work It has to be something that they have an encounter with God about and it delivers them. I'm telling you That's right. My brother's the same way I think the best thing that you can do is lead by example and just keep serving God Yes, and being consistent and believing and doing the things that it take to pretty much make things to where he Sees that light in you and if he'd want to come out of darkness called just cause you see a light Don't mean you go out of darkness. You might stay in the dark, but you see that light. That's right. That's right And that's the whole game. So that's all you can do. I have like I said I just don't want you to get caught up in thinking that you know, God is real Yeah, very so you don't have to worry about whoever whoever he's called they coming Yes, and if he didn't then it's God's it's God who makes all of this to happen. Yes, and I've got I've got a couple of more brothers That you know that, you know, they're just out there. They're just doing their own thing They're not into heavy drugs And I've got one brother. That's a preacher though. Okay, and he's been preaching for like 30 years Okay, he preached to me for many years. Okay, I would run from him and yeah And now I hope he don't see this one day But now I almost run from him because man every time he come to town man This man is all he has nothing Sometime I don't I don't feel like I deserve all the love that he pours on me And he just cries every time he see me cuz he's just so happy. He's just so happy for me You know God and he prayed for you and yes, and he just he said man He said I've been waiting on my one of my brothers for so long. Wow. He said man. It just feels so good I'm talking about when he come to town He he lives in Houston, but he's got his he got his own construction business So we come down to Longview and do some jobs sometime. He can't work Yeah, he want to find me already and I just you know, and he just love on me so much And he just he just so thankful just and when he come in town and he come over to my class Just be a whole different outcome We just turns from a Bible based recovery meeting to a revival Yeah, we just have such a good time and I just thank God. He's one of my he's one of my older brothers, too He's ten years older than me, but I've got one brother. That's 14 years old of me And I've got a none my older my oldest brother by my mom. He's 16 years all right all right, so but this this particular one here Jimmy who's been preaching 30 years. He's He's 10 years older. He's 10 years older than me. He's 63, but man. He's uh, he's very Very healthy and Working in working ability for his age. He's probably in better shape than I am yeah, yeah Because he's been preaching ever since he was 25. That's good So he's in the ministry. Well, well and him and I have a really good relationship a lot of people say he and I look alike, but I just I think I think it's good to have a brother that that I mean that can worship with you And we've seen that in James and John and Peter and Andrew Yes, you know, I mean like it's always good to have that man That brother that walks with you when you're talking. He gives me that he gives me the utmost Encouraging Cursemen and he gives me the ump to to go on and and to move on and he just he just he never he never fails to let me know How proud he is of me and I just thank God for that and and my other brothers, you know I don't bother them. I don't try to push. I don't have to I don't try to push nothing on them because I know the Same God that set me free and set them he can set them free and I'm a and I'm a believer in prayer Yeah, because I'm gonna I'm somebody's answer prayer. Mm-hmm. So I'm just keep it. I'm just keeping the broom in my hand I'm just keeping praying and keep on sweeping. Yeah, I think because I know a great job I know that God is gonna do it and God has done a wonderful work on me. I'm just so thankful for For my wife and and my children and my grandchildren. I'm so thank you know I always say I'm so thankful for Gary junior for my grandkids But you know, I know I got I got another son that's 16. I know I told him about Sebastian You better hurry up. I'm gonna be these other kids gonna be done. Whoa paw paw out for you Well, I bet he's happy just to have you back in his life in a way to where it basically he can be Proud to see his mom and dad getting along and stuff. Yes, it means man. It heals You know a lot of times we don't see the damage that we cause to our children and and like I said It's a dysfunction that dysfunction now. You're able to make it right, you know Like your father he couldn't because he you 14 he died. That's right. You have an opportunity God gave you a second chance That people talk about is stopping generational curses correct and that's what I want to do Well, I think you've done it. They know you're doing it So yes, that's the whole game. You're doing it now And I know you're doing it because you just expressed that change to me Nobody's not going to want to go and talk to people who going through addiction you out now You don't have to do that. Yes. I mean, you don't have to do it You basically but you do have to do it You know from God's standpoint of view in the vow that you made to God and what you said you wanted to do You got to do it, but Physically, you wouldn't do it. You could do whatever you wanted to do. That's right So, I mean people sometimes try to look at you and try to say, ah, man He's just doing that for this or that but you know, God knows your heart. That's right. That's right I'll tell him that in my class. I said one thing that I can tell you for sure Is that when you make a conscious decision to give your will and your life to God He knows it I say you can't pimp God That's right because he knows the intense of your heart Let me ask you a question and you can make it gospel. You make it rmb I don't care what you do. Top three artists of all time. I have to do that on every show that are alive Any artist you it could be uh, it could be uh, give me an example of uh, Donnie McClurk and it could be aretha franklin. It could be anybody But top three artists if you're dead or live, it could be michael jackson. I don't care Shirley seizes. Uh-huh. They don't have it. Whatever you feel your ears like to hear when they hear it Give it to me number one Aretha franklin. Oh, yeah, you like aretha. Yes I just threw that out there. Now. I didn't convince you No, I like her gospel music. Amen. No, no, who's your second number two sure in the season You kind of you kind of sound like demo boys demo brothers Oh, that's who it sound like a little bit That oldest brother too Demo demo the boy the one who would be singing with his sister The wine That's who that's who you kind of remind me of somebody told you that before. Yeah, I done told you now Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what what who's your third one? My my my third and and uh Oh See if you made it easy by calling out some names for you but growing up I really liked it up Who I really tried to mend when I was growing up and singing was the jackson southernaires You don't hear much about them I done heard of them. Yeah, they give me a song that they sing. What a song they sung a song like My god said In his words It was a long long time ago. All right that he had prepared A kingdom for us and I'm making preparations to go All right, now he said if you make one step He'll make two and I know the bible don't lie Keep your hands In my god's hands and he'll make it all Worth your while. All right. All right All right, so that's your number three. So it was uh, it was aretha franklin It was surly sees and Yes, top three artists of all time We sure appreciate you for coming on the show man And we asked at any time you come to town, man You hit me up and let's see what's going on with me if you go on to talk to somebody hit your boy up I'll go with you. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah, I go with you Can somebody find you on social media if they want to reach out for advice or Trying to get over their addiction. Well, they can come to um They can reach me on my on my facebook page of as just straight up gary nelson. Okay, and uh, you know Are you on instagram or anything else? No, no facebook. No, i'm just i'm just on facebook on facebook and i'm gonna uh I'll be on facebook every thursday with my class. I i feel my classes on facebook So they can go on facebook under gary nelson and you need to put something else with gary nelson because it's such a common name It's hard to find you. So when people put in gary nelson, it pops up so many people from everywhere else So you can you can edit and make it bob. What you call bible bible based recovery That's what you need to put that in there. Okay, so it'll pop you up first It'll pop you up really easy if you if you put that into your name Okay, well i'll get my niece so you can have let's she can definitely she can she can she can handle that for me 108 south marble Oh, yes, my my my classes that is that uh 108 south marbley in long view And like i said, we are in the mouth of the beast and what i like about that So much is that people can walk up if i was somewhere out on the loop or somewhere They probably didn't wouldn't have the money to catch a bus or whatever But i'm right in the mouth of the beast where they feed the homeless and everything right across the street they support my ministry and And um, that's it. That's that's what we do there. Do you do you uh, you ever run in uh, farce woodica down there when he was uh, I know But but his but his grandfather was my counselor in high school. All right, yeah, so I've never run into farce woodica, but I also was a great ahead of Matthew McConaughey. Oh, yeah, we was in middle school. Yeah, he was a great. He was a great behind me Wow, that's that's good man. So shout out to Matthew McConaughey and farce woodica. Yeah from wrong view Already man. Say man, we appreciate you for coming on the show man. Yes, sir. I enjoyed it man Thank you so much man. And may god be with you. We wish you much success on your journey, man We love you brother. Thank you. I love y'all too. Say man. I hope it was a blessing It was it was boss talk 101 and we out