 My concern with drawdown is that it is framed in terms of carbon. It partakes in the paradigm of carbon accountancy that translates ecological health into a linear metric. And I think carbon is certainly a measure of the health of the planet because carbon is a building block of life. So the more carbon in the atmosphere and the less in life, then the less life there is on the planet. So drawing down carbon into living systems. So I'm not talking about giant carbon sucking machines that sequester it as a mineral. I'm talking about life incorporating carbon into itself. That is, carbon then becomes a barometer of how successful we are in participating in the resurgence of life on Earth. So in that regard, I do appreciate drawdown, especially when it leads to the priorities that I spoke of earlier, when it leads to the priorities of regenerating and healing and protecting the living organs of the guy in body.