 I told me how to find this list of civilian names for the kid. Well, how many times have you heard me ask for it? I asked Mike Morgan this morning, and I asked Ian George the kid for me. Well, I got all the names now, and if... The first thing that's going to happen is they're going to go tell, they're going to go tell Tom Dodd, Hoover is, that I didn't check it, and I've got a notorious Communist as Secretary of Army. That's what they'll do, and I'll be destroyed. I mean, it's impossible, but I'll, if with your permission, I'll get deep and... Please just tell them that we thought it'd been checked out, and tell Rayburn we thought it'd been checked out, and we want both of them to give us a letter, because I'm not going to have them running up. And St. Johnson didn't check, and he turned it over to a bunch of Communists. Yeah. And tell them that when you talk to them. Yes, sir, I will. Well, that's number one. Number two, I want to check this with you. They, for very complicated reasons, it may be desirable to have Jaime Benitez flown over there. That's all right. And if I'll go... Yes, I'd like to. ...by arrangements. Yes, sir. Now, wait a minute. Have you read this last cable from Bundy at 10, 1052? I have that 1052 cable, but I haven't read it because I've been on the phone. Well, I'll have to tell you. Then he don't need it then, I guess. He told me about it. Well, now, as the government is going now to rebel command, he's agreed to put forth a agreed Secretary of Armed Forces. Has he been checked out with us? The one he's going to put forth? We don't have a name. Yeah. He is going to put forth... We have some names, but we don't know... ...a place in cabinet for the law, you list? That's right. But he's unwilling to raise the question of Departure of Ariste at Tavares or Monte Ratchey. Right, yeah. He's now told Stodderman of unstated rebel condition of yesterday it was. Come on, you should be a member of some sort of joint no-deck command. Well, we're getting government on his way. I've had Stodderman tell him that he would press first two conditions and tell rebels there's one other matter which he said, let's put Departure question where you can decide it. Of course, I prefer. I now believe the question may be the last issue. It is also one of the most important. Departure of three least popular rebels would have three major good effects, would increase chance of lawless cooperation. Van Cees, the second only minister of Armed Forces to this purpose, knows that we're sending all his side already. It would increase the chance that officers and new government have real as well as nominal control. Just because it's so desirable, this results hard to reach. My present proposal is that the agreement should provide three agreed members each side and sleeve the country to vent vengeance. I believe that this proposal for an honorable cooling offer can be presented as a joint position of Johnson and Bosch. We can put it over. And I believe it makes a great difference. If this is to be done, we must get Bosch to support it. It doesn't matter if humanity and magnanimity before they all are wiped out. It's full of honor and renunciation and paternal wisdom, but it touches nerves under the power. Vance and I join hoping that you will decide to press on this point. Well, as I told him, and I think Mike went along with this, Benitez this morning was telling me that the no guys coming, the coming or guys or guys that we suspect are being left and who don't want to deal are eroding, trying to erode JB's position. And he said that if we've got to work out some way to handle this particular matter about the three fellow so as to not to cause them to lose face. And I think Mike agrees with that and I agree with it. In other words, this is an area in which we have to take a chance. And the chance that I would suggest taking is that and which was suggested by Benitez is that we have a gentleman's agreement realizing that the other side may not be a gentleman, but a gentleman's agreement with G and with JB that this will be done. But I'm afraid that, A, the value, the real value of it, the permanent value apart from the trading value of it may not be great. And B, I am afraid that if we don't handle it in a way so that these guys can save face that we may find that what we've done is to increase that power and decrease the power of JB who I continue to think is a moderating, though crazy and mercurial factor in this situation. Mike agreed with us a praise of love and I believe. Okay. Yeah. Now it could be. It could be. We ought to talk to Mike and make him tell Palmer to certify to me by wire. Number one. Give me a good one. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I mean, I only smelt something. I want Palmer to certify to me by wire. Number one. That the helicopters are not giving any aid to this other crowd. That he personally checks it and it's his reputation. Number two. That they're not letting them go through the lines. That helicopters are not giving any aid. That they're not letting the men go through the lines for the purpose of these attacks. And that we're not furnishing them with any equipment or anything to do this with. And we're not letting the airplanes off the ground. They say we're letting the airplanes off to bomb them. We just say they have presented to me pretty strong evidence. And that's what they're telling United Nations. That's what they're telling our friends in Puerto Rico. That's what they're telling my mediator. So I have got to know on these four things and tell Bomb Smith he needs to put that on a cable and ask the general to certify that to me. And after checking with Bantz and to be positive that they're telling the truth. If any of this is true, then I don't blame them a damn bet on the other side. And if it's not true, it looks like it's true. And they ought to give the appearance. They keep those goddamn helicopters out of the air. Shall we put this in a cable or a telephone? Do whatever is quicker. I'd tell Mike to do it myself. I'd have Bomb Smith as my assistant. Just call him. I'd tell Saird to say that the president, whoever's down there, this boy Harry, some underling I wouldn't take too much of. Harry's over there. Well, that's what I say. If somebody over there, I would have Bomb Smith tell somebody over there that the president wants immediately from Palmer and Bantz a statement that is the truth on these conditions. And by God he wants it stopped if it's true. If it's not true, he wants it to be their name. All right. That they will and stand on. And then you can tell Marine Munoz that this is what I've required to be done. And this general is going to be court-martialed. Exactly. And Bantz is going to be fired if they lie. Exactly. Now, may I suggest we call Bantz on this? Yeah. Because he's got a loan in him. All right. And I'd put it right up to Bantz. Just call him that quick. Just say that this will ask. You might put Bomb on, let him tell him it's official. And then you get on and explain it. But just say that what's happening is Stevenson's wiring down here telling United Nations is saying these things. That my mediators in Puerto Rico are saying that that's what they're telling them. We tell them that our mediators are saying this. And I keep saying no, but I want these specific questions. Have any helicopters helped them in any way and if not keep the helicopters out of the air? Number one. Number two, have any planes taken off? Many. And where do they go and don't let any more take off? That's number two. Number three, do we let any men go through the lines? If so, when and how and don't do it any more? Number four, are we furnishing them any equipment of any kind and are our men ever together with them in tanks or trucks? Right. They've got pictures and they're making me look bad and I want these answers and I want that general to get his goddamn uniform off and go out there and he shirts sleeves and patrol those lines himself and see if this is true. Yes, sir. Okay, take care. Thank you.