 There are depending on who you ask 11 or 12 DC EU films so far DC the extended universe of course and film Probably not as good as their animated stuff Not as good as their comics. Yeah, they're top notch with the animated part movie-wise I mean they're trying, you know, they got a couple more on the way We have flash question mark if that's ever gonna come out. We is it gonna come out? We're gonna do extensive reshoots. Maybe as Ramilla is still in the movie Michael Keaton still in the movie I was high for that girl back girls canceled We have a second season of peacemaker on the way James Gunn's taken over the DC EU He's hoping to rain this thing in my coke buddy steer the ship. Yeah He's gonna do a good job. He's gonna do a good job on this. I think he is Yeah, I think I think fight he's champion him. He's like listen. Yeah. Good luck I think fight he has hit his his room though. Yeah, so I think it's time for the gun fight. He's in a swan song phase He's looking for that one final. He's one final thing that can put him back because he's on top. Yeah Things have not been going well. Yeah, he's done right now. But yeah, no, I'm down for the gun I think in my personal opinion before we start this sure I personally think anything before gun We're gonna talk about anything after gun. I think it's gonna be a maze be a lot better Yeah, man, he's gonna put a spin on it whether he's directing it or anything I think he's gonna definitely put his spin on what he wants which is interesting You say that because according to this list that we have pre-ranked You got his movie not quite at the top and it's very true. You are right about we'll get there I ain't think about that. So we are going to list these off in the order of release date Go for it and then we're gonna say where we rank them on our own personal lists At the number one is I don't know what year this came out man of steel. I probably should have put the dates I want to say this came out 14 years ago. Does that seem too long? Man of steel? Yeah No, it was 14 years ago. No, I just threw out a year. You don't think it was that long ago? You want to look it up while I say my piece. Okay, so man of steel the first film in the DCEU It's supposed to start this whole thing off now It's getting it's getting started on the right foot because we are fresh off of the Dark Knight trilogy some of the best comic book movie Adaptations of all time 2013 okay, it's been what nine nine years nine years not long. Yeah 2017 don't seem that long. We're not young damn. I was 32 when I came in. Yeah, so wow. Yeah, it's a good movie though We both have it as the second best DCEU film. Yeah, I'm waiting one out. Well man of steel is really good. I thought they nailed mm-hmm Henry Cavill you just took the words out my mouth. I'll say now is Henry Cavill's coming out party It was yeah, like for real because I didn't know who the hell he was before the dude was a tank He was huge. Yeah, I mean he looked just like Superman I agree personality wise you can argue. He was a little too broody. He was a little too dark But the movie is not called Superman. It's called man of steel and I think that was entirely intentional They wanted this to be him Learning to be the Cape Crusader. Well, if you know about superman or is that bad man? Is Batman the Cape Crusader? No, is he? He's learning to be the good dude The point of matter is I'm trying to say that if you know about the comics and like I said not a comic geek But I'm in there a little bit. Sure. He is kind of dark. He's like a company man But to me okay personally to me Superman is the weakest out of all of them and stuff meaning he could be manipulated so easy by controlling lowest lane sure you control lowest lane You could control him you found saying but I like how they did it because they did show the vulnerability of lowest lane And they did show he can go dark which he does like like fucking the snap of a damn finger Well into your point a lot of people I'm not in that boat I actually like Superman a lot, but you have to do it correctly The guy can barely be hurt right unless you have some dumbass kryptonite. He's pretty much invulnerable Batman kills him all the time Yeah, Batman Batman's his own thing. Yeah, of course. Yeah, we're both pimp So in order to make him weak you have to put him in situations where he has to choose between people He loves things he has to save etc. And then you can use that to your advantage So in this they do a good job because we're constantly seeing him Doing this kind of stuff for people whether it's a bus sinking into the water and he has that he has to kind of like show People. Oh, yeah, I'm a freak, you know, I can lift this goddamn bus if I want to an oil rig blowing up I thought all that was done really well The only hang-up I have with this whole film is how pop Kent is portrayed by Kevin Costner He's read his character is ridiculous like you know what no one's gonna Appreciate you, you know, they're all gonna use you and then how he like tells him not to save him when the tornado comes Come on like it's so it's a bridge too far for me You didn't catch a tear though when he was like about to do it. He said I Thought that was pretty it was it was definitely emotional But like the context around it was just kind of silly, you know It was so silly is like what a tank five years later. He's home superman, dude You could have did that right then and that's why the context is silly It's like you could have did that like right then in there, man I'm gonna keep this a secret for I mean and but I think what makes it so powerful is Snyder did a great job casting you got Kevin Costner who's like all American dad Like he's a guy that just eat, you know, he emotes. He's a man's man. Yeah, he is a man's man Yeah, what Diane Lane? He's the bar as as the mother. She's great. What's her name? Martha Why'd you say that name? Say it again. Why'd you say the fucking name? Dude, I can't wait to get to that movie and then you even have like Emmy award women or Golden Globe Academy award-winning Amy Adams as Lois Lane. Lois Lane, right? Yeah, Lois Lane more like Lois Lane She's not great She doesn't seem to want to be there in any of those movies, but I do love Amy Adams regardless So yeah, man of steel another thing people have a problem with in this film is the amount of destruction He causes he's blowing throw. He's blowing through eye hops over everything. Yeah, like city blocks I don't have a problem with that. I wanted to see Superman go toe to toe is odd Like freaking Super Saiyan mode blowing through buildings again. It's called man of steel. It's not called Superman So he's still coming into his own He's not the guy that like smiles and saves cats and trees. He's fucking blowing shit up But I want to ask you a question go for it. What do you think the casualty number was of kids and children astronomically? Astronomically had to be oh because he was like running through Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that film that that's the highlight of that movie for sure, but good movie though I liked it because like the alternative was what Zod kills everybody on the planet You know can somebody correct me if Zod does turn into doomsday in the comics because I purchased Superman dies. I remember when it came out like 70 bucks. I remember what that came with the whole banner and everything When doomsday kills, I don't know anything about the comics. Yeah, I don't remember. Yeah I don't remember if in the comics if Zod does turn into doomsday, but I thought Zod was good Um, I thought Man of Steel is a really good movie. I thought the casualty count probably was enormous And it was a good setup. Yes next movie, which Shouldn't have happened yet, but yeah, I cannot believe we were looking over the dates of releases in the order I cannot believe Batman v Superman came off in this second movie in the DC you this is Insanity this movie should be like a movie's deeper Yeah, but that's that's all that's a person plus and a negative do I give to DC the plus I get the DC is they give you everything Unlike sure that's a plus, but the negative is sometimes your timing is way off. Yeah, the timing is way off They should have definitely built that up more Where is this on your ranking out of 12 movies? We got you at the eight spot. Yeah for me. I'm at the 11 I'm almost at the bottom and the thing is I don't like Yeah, I kind of do hate this movie even see the directors. I kind of do hate the director's cut or whatever It's called the extended cut the ultimate edition who cares like it's no better in my eyes It just it just like explains things a little further, but it also makes the movie even longer I don't want a longer version of this film. I put this way I never forget the line my friends told me when he was in the movie when we got out the movie theater from seeing that He said when I saw a Batman as a kid Start ascending. I knew this movie was gonna be trash Batman or Superman. No from BV of Batman versus I remember at the beginning we had the dream and he was in the cave. Remember the back. Oh, that's right He started sending my friend. I never forget. He said that's the only thing I remember from that night He told me said dude when I saw that I knew this movie was gonna be trash Yeah, and damn it was it not it was long as hell in nothing I mean it was nothing. It was pure nothing. It's such a thing. I was like, yeah Like what such a dire movie? You will I love that You will He looks like a dumb ass to with the mask and the glowing eyes like a transformer It was definitely like come on, man I know the Martha thing threw me off to those like that's what you're having. That's yeah, like that's what you have Thing I hadn't come well not only that but Batman right master detective didn't look into this guy at all to find out Who his parents were on earth? I mean come on Who directed this? That's that Snyder. It's nighter. Yeah, he did he did a lot of the he either had a hand somehow in the early Stuff like whether he was directing or producing Snyder. Yeah, what's your thoughts on him? I think that he is a fantastic director and he has an amazing eye for visuals. Okay I think he's really bad at writing scripts I agree. I think he's more hit or miss. I don't know a script that he's written that I liked I'll be honest with y'all y'all in this on this list. Yeah is the one movie that's on this list and 300 What else did he 300 is like a top 50 movie for me? I fucking love that movie, but he didn't rate it He didn't write he directed it. He also directed the dawn of the dead remake. What do you think? I love that movie. That's a good love that movie. It's a good one I think James Gunn wrote that really yeah, I believe so it's the gun man Is the gun it's the gunman and then he did a movie that I don't like at all Which I do think he wrote you guys can correct me if I'm wrong and all this He did sucker punch. I've never seen sucker punch visually like orgasmic Storywash storyline trash you you would like sucker punch because it's like a bunch of hot chicks Just looking hot and doing cool stuff. What are you trying to say? I'm saying you're you like to look at women I appreciate that. That's good. I've been married for a thousand years. So that's that ship has failed for me I live through blasts and all Sucker punch and then actually this I always wanted to actually what you thought about Snyder Yeah, so I like Snyder as a visual director. I think he's great, but from a storytelling standpoint I think he's just terrible. Did you like the zombie one? He came out? Oh, I hated that and I was really looking forward to it because the dawn of the dead, but he wrote it That's the problem. He wrote it. No, it was so but here's the thing that premise is awesome Make the movie the um what I thought they were gonna do is I thought the whole thing is gonna be like, okay It's oceans 11. Okay, they're gonna set up this awesome bank heist They're gonna run in and in the first like let's say 40 minutes. There's no zombies at all Okay, they go in they get to the safe They actually execute the mission and then on the way out It's got a lot of chaos. It's like that's the twist not this like weird shit There's these government hybrid zombies and then they box them in and no Happening that first of all they have They also did one other one and I'm blanking on it Watchman, he did watchman. Okay I never forget this when I first saw watch me all I can remember was the big blue penis I knew you're gonna go there. Yeah, that's the only big blue penis is the only thing I can remember from the first one But when I watch it again like years later, I thought it was a good move my first watch I thought was trash When I watch it in years later, I watched it and I was like, then this is actually a good movie I think it's what it was is because of who's a dude whose face changes on Rorschach Rorschach was the one who saved that movie for me. I only watched it once again visually beautiful film I didn't really do you like TV? I thought it was kind of tedious. I like to show a lot But Snyder had nothing to do with the show. Yeah, the show is good and I don't think the Who did the is it? I'm blanking on the guy that wrote it. I think it's the same guy that did Sin City in 300. You like Sin City I do I like Sin City. Yeah, it's cool But that's one of the movies where the trailers are way better than the film that trailer was fantastic Jessica Alba Come on. Yeah, but get up old man. Come on old man. I love it. I got a bum ticker Yeah, come on. Make your work. Yeah, I couldn't get into Sin City. All right, so Batman v Superman It's a slog. It's Bloated to hell and back you have as horrible as a doomsday comes out in the third act He looks like a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles on crack Lex Luthor bizarrely played by Jesse Eisenberg. Oh, I love bringing people together The Red Keeps are coming My friend mind the same guy who I went with he fell asleep. Yeah, how do you not? It's like I was asleep through it. My litmus test for a movie like this is how much will my son who's 10? Love it. Yeah My son doesn't even want to watch BBS because it's so boring and there's just no joy in it There's no and again, that's okay if you want to go really dark and brooding, but you got to go way down the line This is the intro to Batman It's the first time the man of steel is now Superman and he's already kind of like Bitchy and pissy at the world for not like treating him nicely. I don't know I don't like the way to introduce flash in there either Then we came in here memory came. No, he's in the cameo. He's just a cameo and like the camera But no, no, no, no, then he come in a warning before him Yeah, he was saying something like protect Lois or Lois is the answer Oh my god lead up to the whole point of yeah Yeah, I'm in bed. I have a really funny story. It's really quick. I have told some people in here They've heard it, but you have it. It's really funny. I went to that movie. Yeah, I went to that movie Ready for this strap on I'm listening. I went to the theater with a few people including my brother who we don't see movies with often Not really. I'm just making that part up. But my brother was there Anyway, it's the scene where Bruce Wayne is on the computer like looking at the perfectly labeled folders that for some reason You know like they had like icons and everything all this top secret is like Wonder Woman icon folder Um He goes so he goes to the bathroom because he's like oh, this will be a boring scene. I go quick He's just on the computer it instantly jump cuts to that post apocalyptic nightmare vision that he has We're Batman's in a duster and he's got a machine gun that makes no sense So you watch later aliens coming my brother comes back into the theater to that and he's like what did I miss? I'm like, I don't know like not it is so funny because he's like What is the context of the scene? I'm like, dude, they didn't give us any You know so while they give you that context like five movies. Yeah, they don't tell you in that movie at all I just say they give you everything terrible timing. It's because the right is ass You cannot set films up. You can't set stories up like this in a movie I mean when you have a comic book series or even a book series, I guess you can foreshadow things it works But in film. No, yeah, it's gotta be or it's got to be structured better I agree mainly because you don't know if you're ever gonna get to tell that story in film and look what happened with Snyder Okay, this is what I think about DC right now, right this from us having this conversation Yeah, I personally think DC throws shit on the wall. Yeah, and if it sticks They're gonna focus on sure on that but they have no like substance. They're just trying to throw it throw it Right to be honest with you to be totally honest with you Marvel did the same thing until Gardens of the Galaxy. Wow I disagree a lot of shit on I'm not like in Marvel But I just don't agree about it though when Guardians of the Galaxy came out look how the whole Marvel Formed the wrong Guardians of the Galaxy when it came to story telling the comedy I feel DC was looking for the same thing, but they didn't know what to go with I'll agree with you as far as a tone goes Yeah, but as far as the stories and the characters in the arcs go I think that they did have that planned out like we're gonna get the Avengers assembled by the fourth or fifth movie We're gonna. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying DC you doesn't even do that correctly Yeah, the tone in the MCU has completely shifted from a more gritty realistic iron man one So now we're doing comedy. Yeah, to now like there's a stand-up comedy fraggle rock or yeah, this is ridiculous Yeah, like yeah, I agree, but you see what I'm saying though Like yeah, I definitely don't shit on the wall. Absolutely, but I don't think I think I think they ran out of shit though And I think they're fine. Yeah, now they're like we got to get gun Yeah, we gotta bring him in because it's over in the gun do is over if not Okay, we've spent a lot of time on two movies so far good conversation. It is good conversations And I love the story you told me. Do you like that? I can't wait to tell him the story Can you tell that to your other black friends? I cannot wait. So like it's at a barbershop in the town The barbershop Barbershop in the DMV. Hey, Zion, I have a story to tell you. I have a story to tell you, sir Next up on the list Suicide Squad this is the Non non James Gunn. This is so what are we some sort of Suicide Squad? See I like that. Yeah, you think this movie slaps Yeah, I thought we'll Smith say that with a little Smith. Yeah, so low hanging fruit, you know what that was wrong You range over that as your third favorite DCEU this is in the top three for you. Will Smith Will Smith carry that movie man. Wow really carry the see I'm a will Smith fan I think will Smith is really good for certain movies. I think he really carried that movie I agree that will Smith's fantastic in movies. I did I just didn't like I didn't like suicide squad And also Margot Robbie. I mean you want to talk about carrying a movie master your question Do you like Margot Robbie better in this or do you like Margot Robbie in the other Suicide Squad? Which one's more entertaining? I like her look in this mm-hmm more than her look in the James Gunn version because she's wearing little in this film I thought she was way more entertaining and not over like not overly comedic And this one compared to the other one where she had the whole segment to herself and we'll talk about that I thought Margot Robbie was going in and out of accent in this film. I think she's having a hard time Landing some of the comments like there's a line in it that I think it's just dreadful where she says we're the bad guys It's what we do and just how she says it is so unnatural. It doesn't sound very wishy-fram though What do you mean when she from the wishy-fram? Oh in real life. Yeah, she's from Australia. I think so Yeah, Margot Robbie might be I'll show you Margot. Oh Margot. Yeah, okay. Can we talk about Margot? Margot Margot Robert It used to be Margot Margot Margot. She's gonna be Barbie. Yeah, she is for real. Yeah, they don't have Barbie money Barbie She's Barbie and Ken is a baby goose. Oh What's his name? I always come baby goose. I always forget his real name interesting. Yeah, what is his name Ryan Goslin? Oh, right. Yeah, he's yeah, he's got right. It's fantastic Okay, Suicide Squad. Here's the problem I have with it. I ranked at 10. It's very low on my list almost at the bottom My son loves it. He's 10 by the way. See you and my tenure level out in common for kids Yeah, I don't know. This isn't a compliment right now. Oh, really? This is like an underhanded compliment This is what white people do nothing. I think it's good. It's an insult right to your face without you knowing it We're devious I'm gonna keep that one. Yeah, you keep that keep that one yourself. Um It's just a shit show like the editing is so frantic so a helter-skelter There I think ten songs in the first three minutes of that movie. Everything's a montage Nothing gets any time to breathe and it just the story is so ridiculous Amanda Waller assembles a team of dumbasses, but she always does to take on a threat That she created. Mm-hmm. Yeah, like the ninja The ninja who's the girl? Yeah, was that that one injury Asian chick that's in it for like three minutes Katana Katana Yeah, you want to know the intro to her character? Do you remember it? She walks on to the plane and Rick Flake says this is Katana She traps the souls of her fallen into her sword She does that's the character development for this and every character is the same. It's like this is dead chat He's the best at it's shooting people It's just I still Read it. I want to put my attention way more than the other one like an hours definitely like this is way better This movie is like black Adam to me where it's just bad across the board, but it's But it's fun at the same time. It's quick. It's like it's drinking a nos Which is what I'm doing right now. It's terrible for you. There's not a good ingredient in it I even asked you that I was like you drink that but damn it. I still like it Can you tell the people how many times I saw black Adam before we get to black? I don't know if I want to okay. Is it three three times you did go a third. It's amazing. You did go a third No, I saw it on food like the third okay the third time you said you know what? I've given them enough money this time is on me. Sorry. All right. Yeah, this time. It's on them. I should so on them Yeah, what did you like so much about suicide squad besides Will Smith? Was it the terrible effects? No, I just kept my attention or the poor setups and The story was good acting was good I thought the acting was way better in that suicide squad compared to the other one Shorter to it from that mistaken. It was definitely surely shorter because they cut that fucker up And I don't like Superman so it definitely I like the fact that they had dead shot in the Superman You like the light beam generic thing down from the sky and destroy everything. Do I just like the movie? Yeah, okay, I do not like that one. I just listed off all the reason I listed legit reasons for not yet All right, no the the next movie to come out is Wonder Woman gal Gal Gadot some people say Gal Gadot, but I believe it's pronounced with that harsh tea Gal Gadot We're right next to each other with that. We are right now. We're neighbors. Yeah, you gave it the four spot I actually give it the three. It's in my top three I like the whispering at the end that was tight and I wouldn't even say it's an amazing movie It's just the DCE movies aren't very good. So this is top for me. I didn't like the model shots What do you mean the model shot? Okay? What I mean is that they kept on showing her walking with the hair going up and it played a fucking music behind it That was getting annoying to me. I don't know if they do that in that. They definitely do it And she does not have that like Yes, they do like Dick Chianti. Yeah, that's a Snyder thing. No, they definitely doing that one It's been a while since I've seen it. Watch it again when she's on the battlefield and she's walking through They definitely know the no man's land shot that that maybe you know, she's pregnant during that really? Yeah She's so tiny Okay, it's probably somehow it's probably um, who's that sorry tell me who's that fucker that gets all the women in Hollywood He's like a skinny. Oh My god, what's his name? Oh, that's an L. Dude. Oh, it's all my helm. Yeah, hell No, it's probably his kid. He's his kid. I forgot his name. He's low-hanging He's like the one hanging fruit. He's like the top tier the top tier of coke edge I Man for the he gets the ones you gotta get a scd test afterwards I saw hilarious thing. It was like Dua Lipa, you know her the singer the pop singer. No Oh, she's a smoke show, but she's I was wearing like very little and dancing around and I saw a funny comment They're like, this is Pete Davidson's final boss Yeah, dude, no, bro. Oh gosh, we give him way too much. So we liked Wonder Woman Besides some of the slow-motion model shots like you said I the weak spot for me was the the team that she gets the I don't know like the regular battalion of guys. They're all kind of like one-dimensional like I have a snaper But I don't like snaping or some shit fun fact and fun quiz actually actually a quiz. Oh, I would love this quiz Who is the guy? I think he was Spanish in that one. Was he Spanish or French? Can't tell you Okay, the one guy with the French I'm gonna guess French. Okay. He was French. Yeah, you know what that was, right? No, it's the guy from the boys. That's Frenchy. Oh Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm gonna show that's Frenchy. Yeah, I'm gonna show that I'm gonna get a t-shirt that says correct me Correct me if I'm wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong. And then on the backs you say you're wrong. You're wrong. Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. That is Frenchy Okay It looked good though. I love the look of it You can tell that Snyder had a big hand in the visuals. It had his stank on it The slow motion. He produced it. Oh, okay. I just tell you he was heavily invested. There's some beautiful slow motion There's some really crisp visuals. I love all the action in this film It definitely reminded me of Man of Steel in a lot of ways without that kind of grimy filter that Snyder loves to put over things Yeah, I thought it was good. Yeah, it's just a clean polished look Gal Gadot was again like wonderfully cast as the character and when she came out in BVS There's like I don't know about this bitch, but here yeah, Patty Jenkins. I Don't know what happened in between this and Wonder Woman the second But she nailed it the first time. I also like it because and wolf was in it And wolf who she and wolf was a famous female boxer and she's a trainer Well, she doesn't I don't know. She's still trains, but yeah, she's a famous female boxer. Look up. Oh, she had like one scene Yeah, she was one of the Amazons. Okay. Yeah, she was in that one and she was in Justice League Robin Wright is amazing in that too Robin Wright. She's like the main. I don't know the character. I know you talking about Yeah, exactly talking about yeah, but no when I saw these yes or some they all have like, you know those Interesting names those Amazonian names. All right, let's go to the five spot not our ranked five spot Justice League the Whedon cut Justice League as some people call it You put it in the nine spot and guess what would you have now we're living together Oh, I'm in the nine spot as well. Yeah, that was we're not neighbors anymore. That was me. That was horrible. That was hard I Here's the thing It's bad. No, it's horrible. It looks bad. It's horrible But it's only like an it's only like an hour and 50 long It's not even I don't think it's two hours long if it is it goes fast because there's so much story to tell This is this to me is exactly like Suicide Squad where there's just a ton of shit thrown at the wall Nobody has any time to like develop as characters and they're just trying to get to the end line They're like we got to get to the finish. That's a good I mean, it's a shitty movie, but it's a shitty movie But it's an actually it's a shitty easy movie to watch because it's just noise. It's just kind of dumb lame jokes Joss Whedon jokes punchy colors and You know, you have a really bad CG mustache taken off. I thought Stefan Wolf was horrible Stefan Wolf is horrible. He's a terrible. He's a generic villain Character motivations are nowhere to be found you have that awful like digitally removed mustache scene and I totally get why Whedon put it in because when we get to the Snyder cut well Snyder killed off Superman at the end of VVS one of the dumbest decisions ever Conceived yeah in any movie That was just that's like a star player and we know he's coming back because he shows it at the end of the same film with the dust coming off of the casket Why why the main reason I don't like that Justice League is the way he did cyborg They gave you cyborg like no before I before I lose my point the the the reason Whedon added that scene where he's on the phone You know and he had to take off the mustache It was so important to him because up until that point we didn't see Superman be Superman He never did a damn thing for people outside of BVS when he's like, you know flying over the rooftops And people are like reaching up like he's God it didn't feel though like a friendly Superman It felt like oh, I gotta save this bitch now like these ungrateful people like I'm saving the NASA rocket So he has that one shot where he's talking to a boy or a person on the street And he's very kind of stoic and he's like, yeah, I'm smiling. I'm happy my mustache is in here And that's the reason he put it in and it makes sense because when we get to the Snyder cut You don't have it at all and he just comes back and he's once again kind of a pissy guy I personally don't like Superman dude. Yeah, I know Let's get back to your point though you said something about cyborg. Oh, they didn't give cyborg enough play now Yeah, nothing. Yeah, they didn't build his character up and nothing in that one. They cut all of it. It's all it's just like hey I'm cyborg. I'm here. Okay. I'm going. Yeah. Yeah, like that was it. Yeah Otherwise, it's just kind of nothing it reminded me of a Sunday morning cartoon like you do watch it You get through it. Why would you disgrace such a That shit is like something you torture somebody with like you make them watch it again. It's in my nine spot I didn't I don't like it. We were we're tied in where we put it Yeah, I said Sunday morning. Oh gosh, Sunday's where they put the worst stuff. They put the good side. Yeah, exactly All right back-to-back then we go to the Zach's night. Is that really? Oh This isn't okay. So the Snyder cut version of Justice League I put here This isn't actually what came out next that was way later But we're just gonna have them back-to-back just to discuss them. We're right next door now Actually, all right, so you have it at the fifth spot and I have it at the fourth Yeah, I'm very generous to this movie because honestly, I don't ever want to watch it again Really? It's like it's like is it four hours long? Okay. It's way so twice way too long So eight hours of my life was today Since it's kind of broken up into chapters Snyder obviously realizes all right people are gonna get kind of fatigued So I'm gonna give them nice places to stop watching. I appreciate that respect that if I were him Which I'm not clearly because he decided to keep this in I would burn that entire last 30 minutes Out of the mind of everyone that was so embarrassing What me added that you saw on the part where they show the Joker and they show the whole yes That was some of the worst shit. I've ever seen on a film dude I thought that was good if they would have continued it. There's another movie. It was so bad All in front of a green screen that everything was just so off you have fucking like well Who's aqua girl from Aquaman Johnny depths x yeah Murmur She's there she's got like Crustacean armor and like a like a spear gun thing Aquaman even on that Batman no Batman's got the duster on again And it just it was so off like why are you still dressed up as Batman at that point? Yeah, everyone knows it Who the fuck are you? It's broad daylight. That's scary. That's the other thing with Snyder is Batman only works at night It just full stop. He's supposed to be a scary Creature of the night that that puts fear isn't a desert that time Yeah, he's in the desert in the middle of the day. We're in a duster and he's still But the connection though What a superman when he was in the duster and you see yeah I know that's where he was trying to get but it didn't add anything I think they should have just focused on that movie and did everything. I just yeah That would have been good. I god no because it looked like he used the same everything from that zombie Vegas movie That we were talking about it looked very similar, you know or for going that route That's like the phone movie we saw the phone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah black phone You look at black phone look at sinister. It's the same. Yeah, exactly. It's the same cinematography everything But that's not the only part in in the Snyder cut that I'm talking about burning to the ground I would burn that flash you have like three scenes in a row So the movie actually ends very nice You have that heroic shot where they're on top of the dam or whatever they're on where they're all posing Nice fade to black. Yeah, but then we have 30 more minutes Maybe 25 ish fades back up now We see Bruce Wayne who looks almost like unhealthy now because they clearly shot this more moderate Yeah, Bruce Wayne Ben Affleck's in is one of his many I don't know homes out in the middle of nowhere on the lake Martian manhattan hunter comes down. He's like I forgot about that. Hey remember I was I was disguised as Martha for God knows what reason earlier in the film. There is a lot of scene I'm back, baby. I'm gonna need you again. Like and then the next thing they show the desert I think there's one even in between that which is the death stroke or whatever that character's name is the What was the point at that last part? I know because he wanted to build up all this shit Even though he knows he's not gonna get to do it So basically just throw it out there to throw it out. It was just for him I guess and like the super hardcore Snyder cult but there's no sense. There's a scene on the yacht remember like On the yacht he's like, haha, I'm back. Yeah, I agree that well, I don't care. Oh, I just like that one scene Man at one scene where they probably show Superman's bitch ass and he's angry and he's wants the world. He's like, oh my gosh. There he goes. Like that was good Okay, so let's talk about the things I like because I just bitched for like 20 minutes about the ending I Did think the storyline was far better in the Snyder cut. Yeah, huh? Besides the bizarre 4x3 aspect ratio, why do you do that except for I match or something like that? No, there's no reason any people can defend it all they want. It's dumb as fuck He made some really bad choices, but regardless of all the hang-ups. That's why I'm saying like this isn't my forespot But I don't really like any of these movies very much outside of maybe the one and two I did like the character development finally for cyborg. Yeah, that was good flash was far better in this version He wasn't so annoying. I thought he came off more like personable I liked the The slow motion was cool It got a little bit much at times like the hot dog scene where they're the ladies flying on the car It's like, okay, this is gonna cut that whole scene for me Yeah, but like the the Amazon attack was way cooler where Steppenwolf who's far better in this version Yeah, looked way cooler looked more menacing and we find out he's not even like the big bad boss No, I forgot the name of the other guy right now. He's not the big bad boss. There's another guy, right? He's looking for something. He's a Superman, right? Yeah, he manipulated superman who's so easy. I'm gonna stay is it doomsday. No ain't doomsday No, I forgot his name, but it's a it's a main guy the chat will correct us. I thought it was doomsday Maybe we're getting them confused with something else. No, there was one more guy But that one dark side dark side dark sides won't goes heads and okay, doomsday is the CG character from the last one I don't know dark side manipulate Superman Okay, so yeah, I thought that this was just a far better like it ran nicer Motivations made more sense villains were threatening this time and we get Superman in this cool black suit. He comes out that fights a little bit better. It doesn't look as cringy and Yeah, I just it definitely was the better of the two versions and it's sadly Pretty high on my DC you list. Do you want to watch a DC you marathon? No me either I would never I don't come an ax in my head, but to be fair. I don't want to do like a MCU marathon either I can watch Civil War again. That's a good. Yeah, but you said a marathon. So that's all the movies All right next on our list is Aquaman you haven't seen it. So we just gave it a default 11 spot What's funny is the next two movies on this list you haven't seen so we won't spend too much time on them Because I don't like talking to myself too much But even those two movies aren't in your dead last spot. We'll get to what your last spot is And that's funny because you haven't seen them. No, you just know that they won't be as bad Okay, so Aquaman is too long. It's like two and a half hours of a man Jason Momoa kind of you know saying bro and permission to come aboard and a bunch of lame jokes Um There are a lot of plots. Yeah, there's like that Manta character with that shoots a laser out of his face Some stuff just doesn't translate well. I just you know, it's definitely I don't know why I didn't see it Because usually, you know, I see everything. Yeah, I don't know why I didn't see it But that one I definitely didn't go see it's kind of like Namor with the wings on the feet Yeah, but name was actually cool. Yeah, you like it name are fine Yeah, but even so the wings on the feet are kind of silly They don't translate it's kind of like Wolverine with the yellow spandex and the blue underwear I'm glad they never did that because it just doesn't work well in a live-action film. They've never done They know because that would look silly blue underwear with the yellow spandex suit They definitely had a yellow one one time didn't they never never they teased it in the second Wolverine I think it's just called the Wolverine when they open like the thing at the end And he's got like the helmet and the gloves or whatever. Oh, he does wear a helmet in the damn thing You're right. You never wears it. He never wears it. They show it and even then it's the more classic look where it's more Brownish yellow. I don't think there's any sort of blue underwear in that version of the character that one might work But regardless It's just kind of a silly bloated film. It's got shades of great parts. I think James Wan directed it He does the isn't he did like the Conjuring And some of the saw movies I think or maybe it's Yeah, I think it's Yeah, anyway, there are some cool horror elements in the movie So at some points like damn this looks really good It's lit. Well, there's some cool creature design, but then other times. It's just it just loses you loses you It's so silly and bombastic wildly inconsistent film side note of news James Wan Blumhouse together That's all I'm gonna say. Have they not worked on a movie together. No, they're coming together. Oh, I do like James Wan I was a director. I just think he probably The takeaway I got from Aquaman was James Wan wanted to make this movie But he wanted to make it in like seven different ways and he's like, I'm only gonna get one shot at this So I'm just gonna do all of them. I'm gonna do every genre in one movie James Wan is a really good independent horror filmmaker. I think if you give him too much money, he goes wild Yeah So then the next one you haven't seen is just saying I'm sorry. I put that in the eight spot Aquaman is number eight for me The next one on the list is Shazam you gave this the 10 because you haven't seen it I gave it a in the sixth spot Shazam's fine. It's like middle of the road movie. That's the galaxy. No, I don't get that feel from it You didn't know I got that. No, not at all. It's it's not near as colorful It's still got kind of a little bit of the Snyder look to it It's definitely poppier, but there's some dark shit in that movie. Really? Yeah, some of the tone in that is wildly off Okay, I might check that out. I like the dark shit. So it's just it's just funny because you go from a scene where they're kind of Cracking jokes in a gas station to a next scene at a board meeting and there's these evil looking creatures that just slaughter the place It's like oh shit. They just killed all these people and it was really kind of vicious Well, Shazam's definitely on my list now that I'll watch. I'll check that out. Yeah I mean it's got likable leads It's got kid actors which a lot of people get worried about but all the kids were really enjoyable. They did a good job The final act is the only thing that kind of loses some points for me It kind of goes that lame final superhero boss thing where it's like the power of love and friendship bring these guys together Because the number one movie is my favorite, right? So you have to watch it. Yeah Anyway, Shazam six spot now we go to Birds of Prey after that have a good one for that one Okay, Birds of Prey. I have it number five. You have it number seven. So we're pretty close on this Birds of Prey was really good. It started off great great character development with the girl can scream I forgot her name, but it had her that was really good character development The thing I didn't like birth about Birds of Prey it started to drag towards I think was like the third act It started to just Like just start to slow down and I was third act is pretty. Oh, yeah Yeah, I agree on a lot It's almost like going to fast and you get hit with traffic and you start to slow down But it's like that's the best analogy I can give it really slowed down a lot I fully agree and yeah from a Like a choreography standpoint that fight in the end was was miserable. Yeah, I agree I believe I read which means it's true because I read it on the internet. You could read. Yeah Well a little bit a little bit That they had some of the crew from what is it John Wick help out with the choreography not in the final stuff clearly Yeah, but there's a scene. It's I think it's mostly the Harley solo fights So like when she gets like high on cocaine. Yeah, and takes the badge. She's like breaking legs and shit I think that was John Wick Directed and also the scene where she's in the prison and she's fighting the guys in slow ocean sliding through the water That third act that was brutal. Yeah, not that pee we pee we playhouse bullshit where there that was like Batman and Robin stuff where there's colorful things going on and guys aren't rollerblades What I'm saying. Yeah, I was high-five in the whole movie Yeah, they got to that last part and then just it lost me like that's when I go into Like a blank. I'm just like, yeah But Margot Robbie and that is fantastic. She's a national treasure. I thought it was good I wouldn't mind seeing a part today. It's just got kind of a it's got like a funner Simpler storyline, you know, there's no like laser beam. There's no aliens coming It's there's a stone the guys after it. Yeah, the one girl ate it. She's got to shit it out It's kind of funny. It seems like it was good. It seems like a Harley Quinn's type of movie Okay, I want you to think about this. Okay, please. So you have Shazam, which I didn't see which is kind of comical Yeah, then we have birds of prey which is kind of comical sure Gardens of the galaxy. Do you not see they're not there's not see the comedic thing going on here. There's no Tie though as far as no what I'm saying is that they found their little shit on the wall. Oh, yeah I mean, I they definitely lightened things up They had to because I think BBS even though it made a ton of money Mm-hmm not well received from most critics and it split the fans for sure that member super that members Right. Yeah, it's horrible. So they looked at that like oh shit. We went a little too much We got a pullback. So then every movie after they basically like started raining things in even suicide squad Was way darker. That's why they want to they want the director's cut of Suicide Squad because they lighted it up They punched it up. They added a bunch of Eminem music and pop music to get people more on board Let me ask you a question You don't think that the editing is kind of the blame for a lot of these movies that we're talking about here Oh, absolutely I think studio interference and editing is not going to let the director like carry out their vision. Yeah Then what's the point? You know, but there's a there's a thing to that though Zack Snyder and the snarker carried out his vision and it was definitely some scenes I would add it out. Oh for sure but at the end of the day I'm saying that it should these movies got to be tighter because you like I said You grab me then I hit traffic and I'm dying out. There needs to be better collaboration Yeah, I mean you also can look at like George Lucas who clearly had full creative control on the prequel movies Yeah, those are yeah, maybe there should have been less yes men and a couple people that were like, you know, dude Maybe maybe we don't do midi-chlorians. Well, maybe we don't do like, you know Him slaughtering a bunch of younglings and then we're still probably like he's kind of a good dude Well, I put it to this way man My same reasoning and I know it's going off topic. We'll go for to Quentin Tarantino as well Okay, I think that Quentin needs a no man instead of a yes, man because I agree with that when you go past certain amount of movies It gets out of hand. Yeah, like for instance the Hollywood one out of hand. Yeah, I don't like them I think you said you like hatefully, right? I like hatefully. I like hatefully because it was a different type of film It was still as long as hell. It's a little long But I don't I don't know and this is funny because I don't like I don't like plays I don't like going to stage plays me but that was Something about it worked for me. No, I didn't like the snappy dialogue the kind of Who done it style where there's a bunch of these rag tag characters You're not sure who the villain is until you know later on. I don't know something about it worked What sort of girl see as she fell asleep? I believe it She definitely is not a movie that I would recommend to a lot of people. Yeah, she fell asleep Yeah, when I walked out the movie everybody was pissing the fish like me and again Like killbills one of my favorite one That's a real bill volume to completely drops the fucking ball because he had to subvert expectations in the last half hour It was trash. That's where sure that's what she does a thing to your point You got to have a little bit of get asked my says no Yeah, you gotta have some but what you don't want is a studio that says hey change your entire movie That's the difference. I think I think we can I think you need a personal no free. Yeah That's one knows your style. Yeah, and be like no, you need like a you need like a movie wife Or yeah, you know personal no for him. Yeah, like DC needs a personal So birds of prey. I know it bombed. It did not do well. I think that it had a lot of bad will going in People were already Kind of like put off by the original Suicide Squad movie. I don't think they liked it And I just don't think birds of prey really appealed to a lot of people and had a I Don't know. It was just kind of the marketing wasn't very good I said it was a good movie with the third act is if that's the taste that I have in my mouth Speaking of good taste in your mouth Wonder Woman 1984 You have that in your 12th spot. I know I have that in my 12th spot This is where I look back on Patty Jenkins who did both Wonder Woman one and this one and think what the fuck happened It was definitely straight to DVD as we would say and that's why I would say and and you know This is actually shitted to say it so I probably not but I think that Snyder probably did have a pretty big hand in the first Wonder Woman Yeah, that's at least That's what I'm telling me in my head because I just can't fathom how you go from a really solid movie to something so bad All around like I said, I turned it off. I watched pieces. Yeah, that memory That's when um HBO was going this the COVID time when they're doing it straight to that was the first one that they did That's right. Yes, that's right My family was super excited to watch this dude. It was winter time. It was cold. Yes. It was like everybody watched it Everybody watched it. That was like the new Matrix. I remember taking my daughter who at the time was probably nine mm-hmm to the original Wonder Woman now That's like my son kind of like black panther for black people Wonder Woman Legitimately was one of the only female superhero movie icons for girls Really there really is nothing else for superhero movies interesting. What can you name any? Birds of prey this is before birds of prey. I'm talking about the original Wonder Woman Yeah, so I was a wonderful is good, but all you have is like Supergirl that shitty ass. No, we got a lecture Exactly. Electra's. Yeah, nobody likes Electra. That's a good ass movie like Electra You have like maybe three or four female led superhero movies if we're counting like tank girl in some of that garbage Right, of course. So Wonder Woman was really the first big budget like yeah, I'm trying to think yeah Anyway, I took I took my daughter Olivia to it and man She lit up. She was so fired up from that movie and she was like Wonder Woman's my favorite I love this movie and as a father. It was really cool. It was an awesome moment Now we fast forward a couple years to this dog shit sequel dude Wonder Woman 1984 is definitely and my daughter left the couch during it She's like I'm out. I told you what I just said. Did I watch the piece of it and turned it off? Yeah She's like I'm out. I'm done and she's never really had any Motivation to watch another Wonder Woman thing again, which is too bad meteor man. I Like meteor man. You know what? I like meteor man, but it's a terrible movie, but I like it. It's good though It's like it's not good. It's not good. It's good. You got Cosby in there as like a homeless dude No, but Cosby a Leonard part six. No need to watch that ghost dad He was in ghost dad. He's I need to watch Leonard part six Can we talk about the scene in meteor man? My favorite scene as a kid was the dance off at the end So fucking dumb meteor man leave it to a black superhero movie that when the black superhero Does some work for a while. He has to sleep to reach I Didn't work for the day. I got a sleep for like 48 hours Some movies I might say are good and then when I've just seen as mentioned in it I might be like now that movie is kind of trash like you know I'm saying cuz it's so long Oh, yeah, me and my brother use this me my brother. I'm like no We just like call each other out. No, there's another one too with Damien Waynes. I've got movies even worse You know he's terrible No, were there like the dumb Batman and Robin type characters handyman No handyman was the as a handyman was the in living color skit show that was hilarious and Super inappropriate where he would prove a handicap character. You just fall out the window to fly There's another no, I know because they had like garbage. They had yellow capes and They were seriously like Batman and Robin like colorful stupid versions. God. What was that color? Now remember the name cuz he had a plunger for a weapon get a plunger for a weapon We got a black man. Blank man blank man. That's what it was. Yeah blank man It's sure glad we got there and lost everybody watching right now. I don't know why we got off track, but Wonder Woman For some reason they changed the entire vibe from the first movie now It's like a super colorful poppy film. She basically date rapes a guy By wishing her boyfriend from the original Chris Pine back Oh, that's how he comes back. She wishes him back and he takes over the body of another real human man I didn't even know that so she sees this guy as Chris Pine, but he's not it's like me Cuz I was wondering how they broke him back cuz I didn't like I said turn well They didn't it was like a vision so she's sleeping with another dude That's not him and so at the end he's like you gotta let me go She's like, okay, and he leaves and then the real guy is back. He's like what happened The action was bad it just everything about it was really miserable. It's a shame. It's just a damn shame All right, now we get to the suicide squad. This is the James Gunn film You got King Shark. It was a Harley Quinn. You've got Idris Elba I thought King Shark as what's his character Idris Elba's character or Idris Elba? I never know how to say. Are you sure? Okay He plays not Deathstroke, but someone kind of like him. He's like the best of the best at killing things It bothers me that I can't think of his name. No, no I don't know. It's like the third version of Deathstroke. I'm trying to look to see if somebody in the chat Someone will tell us in a little bit. Anyway, it's a great cast. You got polka dot man in there Yeah, but I love blood sport. Thank you for yeah, thank you Tell him his name. Thank you meddling Monk Oh, it's my sport the original movies really good to blood sport the movie with Jean-Claude Van Damme I saw it in the movies with my dad. We were on the same age. So were you a Jean-Claude Van Damme fan? Yes, I was a super fan. And then when Steven Seagal came out, it blew my mind. I hated Steven Seagal. Really? Yeah, I never liked him. I always found him to be a poser and it turns out he was Dude, can you ever understand a word he says when he talks? No, you polluted my land. You raped the animals I'm gonna take you down. He does his moves. He does his like slow-mo. He does his moves. Like they speed everything up Jbc is Jean-Claude though He's like freaking doing splits on oil drums and he's these roundhouse kicking dudes into oblivion Do you see his movie that he made fun of himself? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so good. It's a good movie. Well, like hard target What what's the commando one? Oh I forgot what that is. Was it just called commando? No, no, no cyborg. You've seen cyborg. Yeah, I've seen cyborg Yeah, I've seen all of his shit. Yeah cyborg is hard target still my favorite. I would put cyborg and blood sport I think it's what's the one where he gets dropped onto a remote island and they hunt him. Which one was that? I remember that too. Yeah, that one's sweet I'm off to Google that they take prisoners and they drop them on my island and then it's like the greatest hunt is man I know exactly that's a sweet movie, but no cyborg to me is one of his best ones that blood sport Okay, anyway back to the suicide squad James Gunn makes a sequel But kind of it's basically like a soft reboot I was introducing this like Captain boomerang and some of the dumbasses from the first one kills him off right away Let's the audience know this is a hard-art film this time around We're we're cleaning house sharp. We got new characters Stallone is King shark. He does the voice fantastic I Don't know you get John Cena in there. He's hilarious. He's in his tidy whitey's And then peacemaker the spin-off fantastic show, I'm still watching it. It's good I'm still watching it. I haven't even watched the whole thing James gun man His odd his music choices are just tight every time. That's what I'm saying James. I'm gonna bring this thing back He's gonna bring it back. He's gonna bring it back. Anyway, I really like the suicide squad I've seen it multiple times and even though I couldn't tell you the name of blood sport when it first started John Corvandam was a visual guy. Yeah, I heard about that So I'm looking forward to subsequent see sequels in the future Dude, you know, I'm looking forward to what the last movie that we're talking about today. Let's get to it black Adam I haven't all my energy for this part here because I know I have to go at him with this I was generous and I put this at the seventh spot. I put it number one. I know He saw three times sort three times two times in the movie theater one time at home You liked it because there's a lot of action fucking a ton of action a lot of action It's not boring not at all now, of course the dialogue is kind of shitty Of course the kid in the movies kind of shitty. I'll give you that. Yeah, so I'm gonna throw all the stuff on a tape Yeah, what else do you have? I think what we're learning today is I really want to know you like fun Something that keeps my attention like fun spicy movies that don't really have a lot of depth and that's fine I Feel like I've already said everything I want to say about the Hawkman. Yeah, what about him? He was good. Can you explain to me how he's even able to go toe-to-toe like I'm personally think Hawkman Somebody correct me from wrong. I think Hawkman has one of those Captain America powers great So you've seen the three times and you just thinking this you still don't know The movie hasn't painted a picture director wanted me to understand what's going on so I can you know Boggle it up in my mind and say does he or doesn't he that's the mystery was that his house the X-men mansion Was that his place and then the X-men plane that he has we don't know why though Yeah, but when he comes out the plane and jumps down since I'll be right back the shot from black panther It's amazing. It's the same fucking shot for my panther. The same shot. He did it better Drops down and then oh my gosh. He did it way better play Adam is amazing Alright, you just a hater watch my review of black Adam. I think I did a good move I think I did a spoiler review you did both. I just I'm exhausted even thinking about the movie because black Happened I will say I like dr. Fate. He was fine He was I like dr. Fate people were pissed because I I joked him like dr. Strange 2.0 I'm talking about in the movies Jack asses. They killed him obviously. I'm talking about in the movies They shouldn't kill them off. No, they shouldn't man. What is with these? Yeah, I don't know. What is with these people? Taking the best characters and killing them off You don't take the best characters like Killmonger and kill them off in the first movie. I mean no sense to me Oh my gosh. Don't get me started on that. This is the black Adam. Okay. I don't know why you didn't like it I've already said why no, no, no, no a good specific reason of yo, this is why I did not like black Adam Like push the film out of my mind I would have to go back and watch my review to even like remember that all I know is while the movie was going I was just sitting there thinking what the fuck is this movie about what this guy? This guy is lied dormant up in a mountain and a team of archaeologists or something go up there. They awaken him and then Profit like I just don't even know what the movies about I think she was trying to find the helmet You think you've seen it three times three times. I'm trying to figure out I think you're trying to find the helmet or something but long story short, right? I'm just gonna ask what there's no plot that I can like wrap my balls around Right, I can't get my dick around it. All I all I remember is this annoying kid I remember zombies and shit rising up from the ground Sadins in there do black arms. You don't make Satan the bad guy the first movie Where do you go from there do but the whole point now is the build-up between him and Shazam? Well, Rocker heard doesn't want Shazam But I heard that he doesn't want him in the movies. I just I just didn't hear it No, yeah, he always hear stuff whether it's true or not. I don't know so I just like okay We'll see what the movie Correct me from wrong. I will correct me from wrong anyway black Adam I just forgot everything about it other than there's a lot of fighting It doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Hock Hock guy or Hawkman fights in 17 times He really hates black Adam for reasons. I can't possibly comprehend the same way you hate on me though on that part I do give you yeah, so much. Yeah, so it's just it's just there It's entertaining so three times. It's entertaining kind of like Suicide Squad Kind of like the other movies you really like so fair enough so three times anyway That's our ranking of the DCEU. Let us know let us know how far gone we are or if we're spot-on one of us has to be Right, I'm not gonna tell right now, but then I'm spot on one to be honest one of us is right and I think it's Probably the lighter skin the gentlemen Black is in right now. Oh black is the black black is the new black Thank you very much for watching. What's the name of this podcast cuz I forgot movies with my black friend movies with my black friend movies with my black friend I'm Adam. I'm DJ blessed. Where can they find you? Where can they find you could find me on Instagram as Sutter Kane? NSD you can find me on YouTube Sutter Kane NSD Kane is spelled k-a-i-n and you got in NSD same Hashtag for all all around I'll put links in the description on YouTube so you'll be able to find it same thing on Spotify Sutter Kane It's been fun. It's been fun, bro. I appreciate you. I really appreciate you. All right next time peace