 I have seven o'clock on the dot, so we will call the July 18, 2022 meeting of a select board to order. Mike is not here today, so I will be doing my best to fill his shoes and run today's meeting. So we'll start with approving the agenda. I'll move to approve the agenda. Moved and seconded. Anything further? Additions or changes? Those in favor of approving the agenda as presented? And moving on to consent agenda items. Minutes of the July 5th meeting and then errors and omissions which we received via email from Carla. Thank you. I'll take a motion to approve consent agenda items. So moved. Second. Second. Any further discussion? Those in favor? Aye. So passes. Now is the time for public comment either from anyone in the room or via Zoom and this is for anything that is not present on the agenda currently and if there are folks who'd like to speak we're going to try to keep it to about two minutes each just to keep things fine. Yes. Come on up to your name and then. Tom Schroedner. A couple of policy questions. Did viability ever make it out of parking on for discussion? For what? Sorry. Liability was in the parking lot. Liability. Whatever one. Did they ever make it for discussion? I don't. We've discussed insurance in general several times. Okay. I'm just curious. There's Marcus still mowing out there in the center. So the private citizen town facility, what is the town falls regarding private citizens maintaining the town facility? Well, we've let that happen in the case of the park in question for a number of years. You are aware of that. We're in the process of a study to identify what's going to happen and go forward in that park and in another park and from my perspective, nothing changes until we finish all that work. Okay. So all that really means is that he has no insurance as he does this. Well, I'm not, I'm not able to say that right now. Okay. And there's probably no actual agreement with the town in terms of. The agreement is what the select board agreed to years ago, which you mentioned many times. Right. But there's still a double standard there. When you say to one person, they have to have a really chance and then another you're saying they're not producing. So just saying. Okay. So what about social media? Is that still in the park or not? Yes. Yes. So just as an update, I received recently a social media policy that was created for, I believe it was the rep department. And then I've asked a couple of their towns for some examples of social media policies in other areas. I have not received those. So when I do all send them out to the select board and then we'll go forward on having a conversation. Okay. Because what's happening now is we're going back to the future in that David Frothingham is posting on Facebook about the steering committee activities. And I don't believe there has been announcements about the process for whatever through the time on the downside. So I'm just curious, is he speaking for the DRVs? Is he speaking for center chains? Is he speaking for David Frothingham? That's where it gets confused. We've already done this a year ago with board people speaking out publicly but not saying who they're speaking for. Like Bill, we didn't hear one night you said, well, that was actually I was expressing my own opinion, not that of the town manager. So that's helpful. The second part of that is on the steering committee. So David Frothingham is on the steering committee. He's also as of 2022. He is a professional disc golfer. He has competed in most of the 70 events. There's money involved. He has his own LLC for disc golf. But you know, these tournaments at 100, 200 people, $50 a whack to get in. There's a lot of money being thrown around. And I don't think he's organizing most of this point, but the point is at the time that the professional events and money entered the equation, that's when everything escalated, both in terms of numbers, destruction, activity, everything. So I think that with there's definitely a conflict of interest there for him to be on the development steering committee. I didn't put them on in the time. Keep looking at me. I didn't put them on. You're the answer me in this whole thing. You are. You're going to be solving this. You're unsolving this. But I'm just saying we have a professional entity. It's not like it's a nonprofit or some such thing. A professional disc golfer who makes money at disc golf involved in this decision making process on the steering. So that's a conflict of interest. Okay. So if you're calling me the answer man, then this is what I will say in the select board are all here to a full warrant on the board when we put the planning study in place. Okay. So the issues that you're raising are issues that we've raised for a number of years now. And the select board has taken the position that the best way to address the issues that you're talking about is through the planning process that we're undertaking now. And that doesn't mean you have to light the fact that we haven't made any changes to our laissez-faire approach to this part right now. But from my perspective, the select board has recommended to the voters this study. The study has started. There's a steering committee. People applied. They asked, they wanted stakeholders. So having somebody from the disc golf community on the steering committee shouldn't be a surprise to anybody because they're a stakeholder. So from my perspective, in some ways, December can't get here fast enough because I'm going out the door at the end of December. But because that's when this study is going to be done. So I'm hopeful that we can all just be patient and live with what we've lived with for a number of years, and then we'll get some answers. And, you know, if that doesn't help you, Tom, that's fine. But from my perspective, that's where the talent is. Okay. What other issue related to that is, so if he's negotiating for that Knowles property owner about things about town lands, which hat is he wearing? Is he wearing the RV? Is he wearing professional disc golf? Is he wearing Santa change or is he wearing town resident? Well, except for you telling me right now that he may be negotiating with someone, I don't know because he's not the town isn't in negotiation with anybody for an additional plan. So you don't want me to email you though. So you know, I'm trying to keep it down for you. I'm trying to let you out the door. Okay. All of all I'm saying, Tom, as a private citizen, he can talk to anybody about anything he wants. He can't represent the town obviously, but nobody has called me to say, Hey, there's somebody talking to me in the name of the town about I have no knowledge of him negotiating with anybody, except for what you just said right now. Well, going forward, if he's going to continue to present as a voice of the steering committee on Facebook, do you think that's okay? Well, it's I'm not sure it's up to me to think it's okay or not. It's his own Facebook page, right? It's not about the center chain, whatever. So that's not a group. So the town doesn't control that he's on committee. If he wants to put something you can't put anything on the town, you know, on the town's website, you can't speak in the name of the town. But if he's putting information on his own site, there's very little we can say about that. Unfortunately, there's there's plenty of sites out there that were up to me that be heavily edited. Well, I think he could go backwards to the people on the steering committee and have them be in a consensus and then release information as they feel is appropriate. The steering committee said one meeting and there's some members of the steering committee that are here tonight. I sat in the back of the room during the steering committee meeting for about 15 minutes after another meeting and I'm not on the committee. Well, I think there should be one voice of credible information coming out of this. I don't think that's a lot Do you have more? No, that's that's it. Thank you. Is there anyone else either in Zoom or in the room that would like to speak on something that is not on the agenda for today? No, on the other hand, we will move forward to select board items. And we're starting with guests from the LCT and Mont League of Cities and Towns, Ted. So welcome, Ted. And they're the select board, but I've known Ted for a while and I actually reached out to him on behalf of the board to invite him to come. Ted's been the executive director of the LCT for two plus years now? A year. A year. Okay, wow. Time goes faster than I thought or slower than I thought. Anyway, Ted's been with the league for about a year and in my estimation, I think Ted is really not necessarily the right person, but absolutely a right person for this job. I'm happy the board hired him a year or so ago for this position, because as we all know, Vermont Town and municipal government is changing quickly as is the rest of society. There are things that we're facing now that we haven't had to deal with in my 40-year career until the last few years. And Ted has lots of energy, has lots of ideas, and I know he's been trying to reach out to select boards and city councils across the state. So I thought it would be good if we had an opportunity to come here. And he actually had a two-point monitor. You have to talk to your thing. Anyway, thanks for coming. Thanks. I have a PowerPoint presentation. Should I present? Will you be able to present? What's the premise? I have a two if you prefer. It would be great if you don't mind, but I can focus on all of you. So the bill's way too generous, but I love the fact that you qualify that I'm not the right person. I'm not the right person. I'm not going to use that alone. It's a very bill. I love it. And I was just participating in the new things like we're meeting from the red room library. It just is amazing when you first built your what an incredible resource. I would say that this building is just about everything that is good about the municipal government. So kudos to Waterbury for making this happen. I'm trying to visit two select boards a month, so I've done my job in July. All in one night. Hard to do when you all meet on Mondays. And I'm doing that because I am the new executive director of the league and my goal here is not to run the same organization that's existed for 55 years because governments changed quite a bit in those 55 years. We're still running an organization in municipal government that was created by people that lived 250 years ago. So maybe we're really modern by only being 55 years late, but when we talk about some of the challenges facing you as select board members, we haven't given any new tools really in those last 55 years. The fact that we're meeting hybrid maybe is a direct contradiction of what I just said, but this tool goes away in a few months, right? Because the legislators didn't say we can't have hybrid meetings. Sorry, all remote meetings. We can have all remote meetings going forward. So things like that, it's just thinking about municipal government. But anyways, I have a few slides here. If you'll indulge me, I'm hoping seven to 10 minutes and then maybe you can ask me a few questions if anything I say is relevant. And I have some calls to action when I'm doing. So I'm not just here to tell you about the league. I'm here because there's some things I think Waterbury could do with the league that they're not doing that might help you. In large part, we have new services. So if you take me to the next slide, please, that'd be great. Just as a reminder, for those of you who don't know, the league is owned by you. We are an instrumentality of government. We derive everything we have from you. You are our members. You pay us membership fee every year. You are our board. Bill has said everyone of our boards multiple times. But we are owned by you. That makes us unique. We are the only thing in the state like us. And there's one of us in every state. Funny enough, we were the last one to be formed in the country for the last municipal league formed 55 years ago. Every town since about 1996 or 1994 has been a member. Every city in town has been a member. That makes us unique also. You opt in to us. You don't just become a member. You pay your dues. As of July 1st, I'm proud to say we're growing. We are 247 cities in town. Thanks to the city of S. S. There's another 142 units of municipal government, some of them right here in Waterbury. They're also our members. They're our associate members. We don't have the same privilege as you do, which you don't get to vote. They don't get to vote on our legislative policy. They don't get to decide who to hire as their executive director. That's reserved only for cities and towns. Our mission is up there. It's pretty clear we're here to serve and strengthen you local government. We do this in these five critical ways on the right-hand side. We support you by answering questions. We have four municipal attorneys that run the inquiry service. You can email. You can call us. In the last five years, Waterbury's done that 50 times. So now we've got 10 times. That means either Bill's called, one of you's called. Your planning commission members have called. God knows. Somebody who is a municipal official has called us and asked this question as simple as am I following over meeting law to as complex as the deepest, most strangest question you can imagine about municipal government. We do that free of charge to you and hopefully save you out of your legal bills here and there. So instead of asking the new attorney, you're asking. The second thing we do is we're writing down and I'd encourage all of you to info at vlct.org. Send an email anytime you want. We give back to you to 24 to 48 hours. A attorney will review info at vlct.org. We provide knowledge training. So on the 28th of July, we have a budgeting for select board members. If you are a new select board member, I highly recommend hopping on that webinar. It's a full morning. We have a government finance specialist. We just hired about three months ago talk about doing things differently. We've never had a full-time government finance specialist. You can now call us and talk to somebody in the trenches who has been a CFO for a town. It turns out city changes and mergers independence makes employees very happy to move out of certain places. So we benefit but that asset is for you too in building knowledge. We represent you in the state house. This is the biggest thing. I'm going to go through some victories we had this year and the things I wanted to know about in case you're in bed. We provide insurance. In the 80s, the market hardened. Municipalities could get insurance or were paying triple or triple what they were the year before. So Bill and his friends at the time formed an insurance pool, a risk pool that you folks are now members of. And all of four cities and towns of the modern members of our risk pool. I'll talk about some of the advantages of that in a second. And the fifth way we do that is by providing connection. Town fair after over six and seven, I hope you'll all come. I hope you'll encourage me to support your municipal employees to come. This is where 500 of you come together and talk about common profits, common successes and have a moment to connect with other leaders. So there's like kind of five key things we can give you the next slide. Don't worry. This I wanted to highlight some of our success. We answered 4000 municipal and Korean service questions this year. Those are those info at the LCT things from your fellow select board members. Our insurance at the middle of the top. We return $3.1 million in equity to our towns. What does that mean? It means we charge 2x and we're able to return 100% of the X because the risk pool is really healthy because so many people are members. They're managing risk really well. They were good investment returns. The private sector doesn't do that. This is double what we've ever returned to our members before. So that is a big deal on our post. That's winning for you, not for us, for you. I talked about the state house. We've had 350,000 web sessions on our web pages here. A lot of that was on our which I know some select board members have been talking to us about the American rescue plan. That's the next number 2000. This last year we were responding to 2000 inquiries about our including about a half dozen folks. And the last thing I want to mention about successes is you know, the federal government tried to give us our money that you're spending to the counties and they actually decided that the Mott had county government. It's very strange. It took us about three months to successfully advocate with the governor and the congressional delegation to get that money directly to you instead of going to your county government where inevitably they would have likely found a way to spend a little bit of money before it kind of views. So I call that a big picture. Going forward, we have a strategic plan. It's on our website. I'm not going to spend much time here, but I just want to point out on the left is four pillars of our plan. One, we're trying to grow a sustainable and relevant member focused organization. That's what makes us unique to all of us. Two, we're trying to strengthen your capacity. You know, Vermont's a dealing state, which means you have no authority except that by which the government, the state house gives you. We're trying to make it a case that you deserve more authority because you're being asked to do more and more. You're being asked to sell climate change at the local level. You can't do that unless the state house gives you some credit. We're trying to help you develop and attract outstanding talent as we're helping you with the recruitment for bills replacement. We know firsthand it's hard to find people like Bill. You know, it's hard to find the next generation of municipal leaders. It's hard to find the next generation of few select board members. This is part of what we're really spending a lot of time on. And finally, we're trying to help the champion inclusive resilient communities, whether it be to adapt the climate change to build housing, housing for all, and dealing with equity issues. Next slide. I'm going quickly because I just, I want to get the questions. I wanted to highlight three things we're doing. I already talked about work. We fought for, so this is one of the three things I wanted to highlight for you that I'm hearing right now. We hired a former municipal manager, the former Department of Housing, Community Economic Development, director Katie Buckley to manage an Arthur program for you so you could ask somebody questions so that you could interpret the federal guidance interpreted by an expert. She's been there. She also advocated for your money to be more flexible. If you remember, there were those four categories or five categories that you can spend money in. Now Katie and the lead went and worked with the National League of Cities to make sure that that money was more flexible. So you get that exemption up to $10 million. You could use that money in a more flexible way. Just because we've done that doesn't mean we think you should spend it on anything. We still go through this graphic on the left, the then diagram. Prioritize good governance, leverage your array and invest in best long-term recovery projects. We still hope you'll hit that target and Katie is still available that will give you any questions. Next one. She's greeting my mind. We have spent a lot of time this last year, these last two years, but before I got there, trying to give you resources to deal with justice, diversity, equity, inclusion, and the law. We know that rooms like this one are filled with people showing up and saying, what are you doing to make sure that our town is welcoming? What are you doing to make sure our town isn't discriminating? What are you doing to stop our town from making mistakes in police, right? To prevent our town. We should say stop, prevent our town from making mistakes in police. So we formed an equity committee. I want to be around this a bit. I have regular updates. We have 15 municipalities represented on the equity committee and we're not trying to tell you what to do. We're trying to build resources in case a town wants to do something and it's asking like they always do four thousand times a year. How do we do this? How do you deal with equity? And so this equity committee has built a plan which you can check out on our website if you're interested, what we're going to do to help you. But most importantly, we've started two or three hints right now. On Thursday, we will be announcing a welcoming and engaging communities cohort, which invites the select board members and managers to join other communities up to 15 communities and going through a six month process where they'll learn about equity issues, they'll practice some equity issues, they'll talk about cultural transformation of organizations, and we'll do a survey of all of your municipal staff and police. The belonging and inclusion survey that the state of Vermont actually uses. So this very interesting thing. Applications will open on Thursday. Applications are due, so I told you there were things I'm asking of you. Consider applying for this program if you're interested. Applications will be due in the end of August. We're also launching a Thursday equity toolkit. It's a 10 part toolkit that will list that and the equity committee can help us build that shows best practices, what our other communities do, what, you know, have they adopted the declaration of inclusion, other things besides the declaration of inclusion, they should consider how have they formed equity committees, what their equity committees look like, what's something I should read about this that relates to municipal government, what training should I offer my staff, go down the loans, and we're partnering with people like the Office of Racial Equity and VCF to provide grant resources. So right now, the Vermont Community Foundation has branched up to $10,000 to help parents do it. So if you're interested, there's something. That's the second day I wanted to talk about today. The third is IT, IT, IT. Next slide. Information technology. We did a member survey last fall, last summer. The number one thing people asked for was health and cybersecurity and IT. And so we went out with Champlain College and built an IT options catalog, which can help you understand what things you should be thinking about. You should check it out. We built an RFQ template. So if you wanted to go out and hire either managed IT services or cyber services, you could cyber security services, you can steal it from the template and services sample RFQ. So not just the template, but actually it goes through what one of them is. So we can expect to do more of this IT work in the future. And you'll see I'll come back to that later. I like how you're keeping me moving. So just only three more slides. I wanted to highlight a couple of successes in the state house this year because it will apply to you and it probably will apply after Bill leaves because if Bill was here, I know he'd bring this to you to make sure you got the money on the state. The biggest opportunity is this thing called the Municipal Energy Resilience Grant program. It's almost $50 million in resources of $36 million in grants to talents up to a half million dollars to do energy work in buildings, municipal buildings. You can do assessments of $5 million for assessments and then $500,000 in actual grants to do work. So keep an eye on that one if you have the energy on this building. Obviously not going to be there. I saw the heating system with Bill a couple of months back. The second one is this $40 million community recovery and revitalization grant program. We fought to get municipalities included in this grant program that weren't last year. So now municipalities can apply for up to a million dollars to support recovery and revitalization in their business community and their community. The third one I want to highlight was we talked about the ICOP, we haven't talked at all, I apologize. About Dillon's law, well Dillon's rule, we successfully got a municipal authority bill passed this year which involves a little more power to you via ordinance. One being allowing non-resident officers to serve at your unless you if you decide to do so you can now do so without going to the state house to allow for non-resident officers to serve on your planning commission, things like that. If you decide to eliminate something with the county constable, you don't need to go back for charter change, you can actually do that by ordinance. If you want to go about changing the size of the municipal panels, you'll also be permanently trying some emergency authority. So if we ever have another pandemic, we won't need to wait for the state house to enter. Preserving qualified immunity for law enforcement officers, we had a victory there this year. Who knows, we'll have another one next year. We expanded to think from our relocation initiative, the issue to allow to pay people to move here. We successfully expanded that to municipal employees and we created the VLCT federal assistance program, the legislature funded the position at VLCT to help you chase down federal grants. And then finally some big victories in housing investments that we and many others championed. So there's more money coming to housing. A lot more in the legislative report. I have a call to action before I finish. Next slide. Four of them. Waterbury as a member of PACIF, our risk pool is eligible for up to $10,000 through a PACIF loss control grant. I know Bill would apply for one of these before he left if he had time. But somebody should be tracking this because there's no match. It's usually a match required for these, these loss control grants or things like anything that you can really tie to reducing the likelihood of a claim coming against you. I think backup cameras for fire trucks and for public works vehicles, think cameras to prevent theft. There's a long list of things. I hope you will apply for one because there is no cap this year. No, not there is a cap. There is no match required. Second thing, you folks haven't applied for cybersecurity training through NOPA4. We have a full reimbursement program this year where we'll reimburse you for the entire cost of the NOPA4 training. This would send, this would enable all of your municipal employees, appointees, and elected officials to get training on NOPA4, on cyber threats. They send you the emails, the tests. They can even do penetration testing of your staff to say, we're going to send an email and see if you respond to it and let us into your system and then correct that problem. The third bullet called action. We have a very robust ancillary benefit program. By that, I mean your dental insurance and vision insurance. Waterbury participates in our disability and long-term care, I believe, right, Bill? Life, disability, long-term care. Life, disability, long-term care. Do you not participate in dental and vision? I encourage you to think about us. And also this year, a new one is pet insurance. So it sounds silly, but it's more and more in demand by those young millennials. And then finally, we stopped. We're not communicating with you in print much. We're doing everything online. So follow us. Subscribe to mailings at BLCT.org to get our bi-weekly news emails to get our journal. And we're communicating via Facebook. That's the only social media platform we use. So follow us on Facebook to get updates. My last thing, a couple of upcoming opportunities for you to participate. One, Town Fair, October 6th and 7th. Be there or be square. Two, I mentioned the government finance overview of the slight boards, the 28th webinar all morning, but it's well worth it. I apologize for those last two bullets under there. That's obviously a typo. And then three, on August 11th, join us in my downtown mob failure with Senator Leahy to celebrate his accomplishments to help our downtowns with Waterbury recover after things like that read. It's free and open to the public. There's food available for purchase, but I hope you'll come and join us. So that's all I had. I'm sorry to rattle off at you, but I really appreciate it. I hope I stayed under 10 minutes. I don't think I did. Any questions for you? You've had some trainings available, but they happen to be during the day time. And I'm wondering if there's any possibility of doing them in the evening for those of us that work and take time off. Absolutely. A couple of options. One, I love the feedback as to what types of trainings you want us to offer in the evening hours. We're trying to do more on demand stuff where it's recorded, but we know people want real time training. So one, tell me what you want. We will try to make that available in the evening, as I said during the day. Two, we can do custom trainings. And it's not very expensive. So we can come here. And if you all want to be certain type of training, we can provide that training to you and bring our attorneys in to do that. We have a bunch of stock ones, but also if you have something in particular, we can come here in the evening anytime and do that training. So yes. Are they recorded during the day? So if we signed up and couldn't attend, we can re-watch it later. I think they are. So we do automated training. So if you register and can't make it, you'll get a copy of the recording and access. But I know it's not the same as a live question. Thanks for that feedback. So I need to hear more of it as a new executive director. I need to know what we're doing wrong. I think I've gotten that feedback a couple of times. We need more night. Yeah, we like to, you know, work on, you know, creating that next generation of leaders, but and also was less outdoor. And so the particular like the loss control, we can find all that information on the website for applications, deadlines, et cetera. Absolutely. There are no deadlines on the loss control branch. The only deadline is next year. We might not be able to offer them with no match. And you're eligible to receive the member here. So if you're, you're good, you can almost pay for your insurance or a portion of your insurance every year through the loss control branch. And you've got them before. Is there another question? Yeah, I was at the lifestyle and housing policy committee. And Karen Horne mentioned that she was looking for grant writers because there was a lot of money, as you just pointed out, but finding people that had the time, the inclination to write grants is an improvement. And so I was wondering if you had any suggestions about that for the cars? Yeah. So what's your population? 5,000. Right now, Waterbury is eligible for the ready program. If you take advantage of the ready program, sure. There's another 5,000, there's 7,500. Sorry. Right. So there is a program at DHCB that helps towns and will actually pay for a grant rate. We at VLCT, through this federal assistance program, intend to build a stable of grant writers that you can contact us and get a preset discount rate of grant writers. That's one thing we're working as we see the need as well. We also need to train some grant writers. I can't tell you how many select boards I visit. We're the select board member of the ones writing the grants and they never had a training. They just do it because that's what they're going to do. So we're talking about getting some select board trainings for how to write a good grant application, things like that. But there aren't enough people to write grants for the three trillion dollars. But we're going to try. We're trying to build the resource. One thing while Ted is here and talk about the three million dollars that was returned to Amartya's parents from the various insurance trusts. And as Ted said, it was in the late 70s, I think when the United Fronted Trust first was created and then the Health Trust was created in 1982, Health Trust isn't necessary anymore. I was not part of creating the Health Trust, but was one of the first people that was able to buy it for me in this time that I worked for. And then passive was formed in 1986 when that hard market that Ted was talking about came in. The other really important thing that you should know about the insurance trusts, especially passive, is that not only do they return premiums when the balance sheet says that they can, and they have to live by all the same rules that the Department of Financial Regulation or whatever, banking and insurance is what I still know about. They have to live by all the rules that the Financial Regulation applies to insurance companies in terms of reserves and secondary insurance and things like that. But the main benefit that I find, and I'm telling you this now because I won't be here after December, and every once in a while somebody knocks on my door and calls me and sends me an email and says, oh, we want to bid on your insurance. In fact, we don't want to bid on your insurance, we just want you to put your property down to insurance with us. And we can get in a better place. And a couple of years ago, I actually answered an email or emailed the guy who had come in to spell and said, these are all the reasons why we belong to the leak and why we're with the passive program. And if you're going to come in and you want to sell us something for $2,000 or $3,000 less than you can buy it from, even if it was $10,000 less, I would recommend to my board that we stay with the leak because they understand self-immunity, which most other insurance companies don't have a clue what that's about, the legislature. There's laws in place that set the bar pretty high for when people want to ensue the municipality for things that are kind of everyday occurrences, so potholes, highways, sewer backups and the like, those are all governmental functions, governmental activities. And unless you can prove gross negligence, those things are fairly typically not covered. And it's not because we don't want to pay a claim to an individual, but we don't want to be open to these frivolous lawsuits that go on and end up having thousands and thousands of dollars of claims. So what I just like to remember is that there are times when the market can be passive price, not very often. If we had a little bit better claims history in some of our areas, workers comp, we haven't been great in that for a few years. If we had better claims, they'd help us with that and talked about risk, managing risk, and being careful about how we hop in. But when we have a bad year, we might be susceptible to a lower price. But even if they can beat them on price, they can't beat them on service from my perspective. And there's people like me from other cities and towns who are on the board that work the head and jump down the aisle to run these programs. And it's really, I think the most valuable thing we've done is for us. And every once in a while, and I would imagine when a new manager comes in, especially if a new manager isn't from, come on, and some new managers are going to say, gee, I can save the town $10,000, and that's going to be a big feather in my cap right off the bat. Resist the temptation to do that because in the long run, we're going to be way better off with the municipal team. We're in it together with our colleagues across the state. And we pretty much understand when Irene happened, we had flood insurance. We had flood insurance, the village got $350,000 for the municipal building that got flooded out. And if we were with a commercial insurance company, probably wouldn't have flood insurance at all. We had pump stations that were covered. We didn't have a lot of damage to our roads or structures, but towns that had bridges that were flooded, they got help when it's, you know, FEMA didn't, in times of FEMA didn't step in. So just don't fall to that temptation because it's a place where people try to pick us off. Thanks for that bonus. Any other questions for Ted? Thanks for doing that. Thanks for having me. Thanks for what you do. Appreciate it. I'm putting one last point before we go in terms of your message about, you know, trying to recruit officials and select board members and things like that. Try to remember too that we need employees and if you can work with places like BTC, you know, it's harder and harder to find people that want to operate a wastewater treatment plant, you know, water plants. These are things everybody thinks for granted that they're going to turn the water on and it's going to come out of the tap clean and safe. We still need people to do those things. I know I'm preaching to the client, but that's just another thing that we believe to help with getting those kind of people trained and getting the word out that being a municipal employee isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's an actually easy plan. Thank you. Next up, we have Vermont Antique and Classic Colors, August 12th, 2014. Yeah, so nobody's here from the antique, Vermont Antique and Classic Colors of the Beale Society. I think this is the fifth year that they will be having the car show got it far as field. They have a very detailed application here, Friday, August 12th, Sunday, August 14th. These folks are good at what they do and they've been very conscientious and they've contacted the Woodruff. They've had contact with Nick last year in the past. They're going to do what they have typically done. They have a public gathering program. I can't remember what it's called, but they're expecting 20, up to 20. Anyway, they're asking for expected guests, 20 to 25,000 over the three-day event, 500 vehicles, 25 organizers of temporary campers throughout the three-day program. So they're mainly going to be at Firesfield for all of their showing and their judging and their car corral. If anybody's interested in buying an antique car, you can go down to their car corral and see what people have for sale. On Saturday at 3.30, they plan a parade from Firesfield on route two through the roundabout down Main Street to the train station and then back. They will provide the sheriffs that they need to control the intersections that they've been meeting with the state police. The state police understands what they're going to be feeling. They expect about 800 vehicles. As I said, the parade from 3.30, it runs an hour or so, and then they're asking for a street dance, which would require you to agree to close the street from Main Street, starting at 3.30 in the afternoon. They've done this, as I said, I think this is the fifth year. There was one year that they couldn't do it because of COVID, and so I don't know if it's actually fourth event in five years or fifth event in six years. It doesn't really matter. So our recommendation as a staff is to go ahead and approve what they've asked for. They have Castella in place to deal with the trash and recycling. They've got their companies will be providing the quarterlets that they need, not only providing them, but maintaining them throughout the weekend. So they're very organized, and I think that they will be good to go. So for the parade, they're asking North and South Main Streets from Winooski Street to Park Street to be closed. What they'll do is they'll be coming from first field through the roundabout. Traffic will come through the roundabout as well, but regular traffic when they get to Winooski Street will be detoured down Winooski Street to go across the back side of the river. So the antique cars will continue down to the train station. All of the vehicles during the parade will be asked to go around through the back side of the river, conducts for Park Street, Rotary in place, and Park Road are what they're asking to be closed from 330 to 530. It probably will be the better part of an hour or so of the parade. It's actually going up, but they're going to have a logistics on the chat. And then the Stow Street from Main Street to Union Street closed. The request is from the dance will be from 6 to 10, but they'll be closing this Stow Street at around 330 in order to set up. They will be having a DJ from WDV. And the DJ, of course, will be playing music. They have indicated the volume of the music will be manageable and we've never had a problem with that. August 12th, which is a Friday through August 14th, which is a Sunday. So they'll be going into the Paris field that are out 7 o'clock on Friday morning. And the last folks will be pulling out except for the tearing down, but 4 o'clock with showroom. And any other questions? Comments? And they've given any indication to you as to how having it here in Farsi compares to the years they've had it in Stow. Well, I talked to and who was the longtime Chase from our Chamber of Commerce? Chris Barbiari. So Chris Barbiari drove me through Waterbury at the head of that according to the state grade in 1967, Barracuda. And we talked about protection. They love it here in Waterbury. The field is, they feel much more comedy with the Paris field. It's level. It drains well. Well, enough. There's enough room to have everybody and vendors or anything there. It's a little bit challenging when people go to the show and leave because they're right on the 2 and sometimes a little back up. There's no in Stow. There's several side roads that you can get on pretty quickly. We're from 5th field. We've got to go all the way to Bolton, pretty much, or all the way to the village before you get off the road. Clearly, we don't have the number of hotel rooms in Waterbury for a lot of people to stay here. So the best way to stay in the third field is get business. But a lot of folks who come, you know, there's 800 cars and there's not a number of hotel rooms in Waterbury. So a lot of them still go up to Stow. The parade has been well received here. So I think they like it and they've got a contract here that they're planning to be here well into the future. Yeah, I didn't know from a functionality standpoint if it was as good or better, not quite as good. Yeah, they seem happy. It's different. The parade room in Stow, of course, is a little bit different than here. You know, they used the mountain road and they came, like, you know, we have we have our kind of restaurant scene, which is a block and a half long in Waterbury, and there's good restaurants and people should go, not quite the same as Stow where they've got commercial, you know, way up all the whole mountain road and all the way to the village. So we'd recommend the motion to move, we accept the application for the Vermont antique and classic car association. So we've been seconded for the comments. Yeah. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Excellent. Thank you so much. All right, we have an update. Hope Davy and Ice Center study. I'll be partial to you. I assume they are letting the folks instance and raise no, but when we did our test there, they always appreciated. I had loud music outside. Okay, so in the interest of public transparency, you all appointed me to be the select board representative on the parks planning study task force steering committee, excuse me. And again, just to review, this is the work that we have all approved to be done by SE group using the funding that was voted on that time. So we had our first meeting last Wednesday with that steering committee. The first update would be all the steering committee information is being put as a planning study on the planning commission page of the town website. So both the agenda for that meeting and at this point, the minutes are already up as well. We'll be there for future things. For today, I just want to give a general outline of the work we're doing. We don't have dates or anything to finalize, but just about the select board is aware of what future involvement will look like. So SE group kind of outlined four broad areas are four stages, I should say, for the study. So we're kind of in the first stage now, which is a lot of background and information gathering, some of that they're doing with consultants, they're working with someone through wetland elimination, they're getting working with Steve, I should say our planning director who is the chair of the steering committee and obviously providing the staff support around getting them information on the studies that have been done and the like. The three big pieces to flag for us are then kind of the next stages of public engagement. So one SE group again kind of has a baseline understanding of what's going on. The big input stage is going to be a community visioning workshop. So this will be an opportunity for members of the public to comment in person throughout the evening, as well as through online surveys and other means. We don't have a date finalized for that, but certainly I will report back to you all and be annoying on front porch form and we'll put up flyers. The goal is really to get as much public input about the two sites as possible to determine next steps. I think we're ending for September at this point. The timeline obviously wanted to complete within this calendar slash fiscal year for us. And the goal was also that that would probably be more effective than August just because of school timing and the like. So aiming for September, but nothing finalized. They were going to revise based on input. The last two for us to say is after that workshop, the consultants are going to work on kind of a general concept. So like I'm a planning enthusiast, not a planner by training, but kind of what those wear and what are specific layouts from folks to way they will present those concepts at a slack board meeting. So that's the first to fly for us. I think we can choose maybe it's just at the general Monday meeting, maybe we started early, maybe we do a different night if we think that would solicit more input, but they do intend to have that public concept presentation at a slack board meeting. And again, another opportunity for the public to provide input again, kind of putting pieces together after the visioning input. And then the final plan revisions based on those concepts and input would also be something they would present at one of our meeting, but probably with less intentional time for public input for that latter meeting. So again, that's kind of the big six month plan looking forward to the rest of the year. So I just wanted to share that with everyone so that folks are aware and just flag those couple of particular pieces for us, which will be that visioning workshop. So both other slack board members want to attend and also helping to spread the word. And then that we will have that concept presentation meeting and final plan, I guess towards Bill's point earlier of getting the plan talked to him as soon as possible by December. So that's all I had against Steve is really the fact that I just said seems worthwhile to have on the agenda just as an update for everyone. Thank you. And I'd be answering questions where things have particular input to doesn't have to be now can be after the meeting too, but on specific things we're looking to as the slack boards reflected in these final plans. You know, again, happy to go into more details about there. So obviously based on what we've got. Questions. Thank you so much, awesome. Thank you. Yeah. Fantastic. Moving on to Waterbury area, housing, task force updates. Do you want to take a lead on that one? I think it's me again. I was going to tell Ted, who I sometimes work with, that it's not always the illicit shots. Here we are. My select word updates. So we all made a motion at our June 20 meeting to work on creating a Waterbury area task force and said we would work out the details on the structure information of the future. So before we get into that, I do have two clarifications. I attended the last planning commission meeting and it was brought to my attention to emphasize that there have been a previous housing task force. So certainly I did some looking into since 2017 when I've been here, but in 2013 there was a housing task force group and it just wanted to be emphasized and knowledge that folks have been involved in this work for many years and we're just trying to bring it back to the surface for right now. And the other big point from the planning commission and also being a planning enthusiast is that this is all reflected in our municipal plan. And so this came after a conversation with an RW housing study, but really just reflecting that. It's also priorities that have been an our municipal plan again since 2013, since we re-approved it in 2018 and since. So in terms of next steps on permission and committee, I would say like personally I'm not necessarily proposing that we take an action to it. I guess we could just review the folks we had said for the committee and then if people have any input to share, we can go on to a structure. I'm happy to take an input. I don't know how to chance me with Bill or Steve kind of about their input. The folks we had said initially were select board representation, planning commission, EFUD, public, and then I also had like downstream or affordable housing provider. But if there's other ideas folks have or other input, try and start with something for the next meeting to review. Okay, and for your calendars and for your information, I think I told the board at the last meeting that I met with Downstreet with Steve Watts Beach. We met with Downstreet in Evernorth a couple weeks ago at the Stanley Watson Hall site. They are very interested in that site. Unfortunately, securing that site requires a little bit of a laborious process through the legislation. And the state was willing to give that site to the town back in 2013 after Trump will store my ring for us to build the municipal building there. We actually took the process through a fund vote which failed and ultimately we ended up building here. I asked them to dust off that RFP and turn over the property to the town so we could work with Evernorth and Downstreet to get something going. And they said, wow, that was quite specific for the municipal building and the municipal store my ring. So we have to go through this process. The legislature ultimately has to pass a bill to sell the property. I've written a letter to Alice Evans, who's the chairperson of the House Institutions Committee. I sent the same letter to Senator Joe Benning who's currently in the same position in the Senate, except he's running for lieutenant governor so he's not going to be there. Senator Benning did respond to me and said, this sounds pretty good. What I asked them to do was to, instead of waiting for the Capitol Bill at the end of the session to try to move this property to get something done, that maybe they could take it out in the Budget Reconciliation Act, which happens earlier in the year, still going through the two institutions that is hoping to get some movement quicker because none of these organizations, Downstreet, Evernorth, other folks who do the same kind of work, they typically need site control before they can start plundering, and it's difficult. So the best that they were hoping was that maybe there'd be an option from the GS buildings and general services which controls the property for the state to have an option that basically said we're going to give Waterbury an option for this parcel subject to legislative action, but even that is not necessarily quicker than that. So those two organizations are very interested in the Stanley Watson site, but they are also interested in 51 South Main Street, and they attended the EFUD meeting last week and folks were here from Downstreet, not Evernorth, and talked about whether or not 51 South Main Street could be used for this and explained that there are grant and funding options available to them that they need to have site control by November for which to meet these deadlines. So on 10th of August, I believe it is folks from Downstreet are going to come here, the EFUD commissioners are going to hold their regular meeting in the afternoon, late afternoon of the 10th, and then right after that regular meeting closes there'll be a public information meeting to talk to the public about the prospect of EFUD investing itself of this property, whether it's through sale or donation, that's all subject to lots of issues. And just so you understand the process of municipality on the vote of its legislative body can vote to sell or donate the property. However, if the legislative body does it, we're in Vermont and we like people and we like democracy, so there's an option with the ability for people to submit and circulate a petition to hold a special district meeting or town meeting to overturn the action of the legislative body. So in the past the EFUD commissioners and the village trustees who came before that had always indicated that they would go directly to a town meeting both as opposed to do it on their own motion. So anyway, that's an update as to where we are. Downstreet is very interested. The EFUD commissioners asked Downstreet that if they were able to acquire the 51 South Main Street property and develop for housing would they no longer have interest in the Stanley Watson site. They said no, we would love to do two projects. There's a need for workforce housing and we think Waterbury is a place that it can work. We've got several examples of working with those here in Cal and Lad Hall, the most recent one, and from my perspective it's a wonderful project. I've been in the building recently because I was called there to do a rental housing inspection by somebody who's concerned about the circulation of the airflow in their building and that they didn't have screens. That's been rectified now, but I was in the building because well-maintained people up there seem to enjoy it and make the best of it. So anyway, that's where we are. So if you're around, I know a couple of you are district presidents and we are certainly welcome to come to that. So if you're interested on the tent there'll be a public information. Dana had his hand up for a while on Zoom. Are you going to figure it out? Dana, we can't hear you. No, it's his audio. He's off mute. It's just his audio isn't working. In the meantime, I'll give you a minute, Dana, and then I'll speak up if you are able to connect it. I think we can chat about the composition or the structure of the committee and then something that I want to keep in mind too is that we've talked at length about committees to remember that. It doesn't have to be about now. One second, Dana. Sorry, thanks. Yeah, yeah, my fault. That's with last weekend, that was someone from the county. We had gotten some emails with concerned about unhoused folks in the park and about town. So I don't have time to type up these notes just yet, but I will distribute them. And he talked about our housing task force and some best practices are then having a homelessness task force as well within that, calling it what we know. So that we can then include people who have more expertise in the subject that might meet separately. Or if we don't think there's capacity for that, inviting those folks into talk to the committee at large. But just keeping that in mind. So we can come back to that. Dana, go ahead. Thank you. Sorry. Adventures in Bluetooth headsets, my apologies. I just wanted to jump in and say thanks to Alyssa for noting that she attended the Planning Commission meeting. We appreciate that. She stayed for the whole thing, which is above and beyond. So thank you, Alyssa. And also, great job in summarizing, I think, what the Planning Commission was discussing following that meeting. So just noting that the 2018 town plant does have a lot of information on housing. And so I think that that would be good going forward to reference. I know where early days on this task force, but that is a great document and it has a lot of concrete suggestions, not only for policy, but also potential financing for some of these housing issues. So it's a great resource for anyone who is interested in reading more about that. I think it starts on page 40 or so. And then I think the other thing that I would like to note as far as the housing task force goes is that I think it's great that we're talking about involving down street and then potentially reaching out to specific private developers, housing developers within the area would be great. I know that Jason Wolfe has been interested in this topic in the past. I think there are some others. And so I'm happy to sort of put out some feelers in the area, but I think it's important to have some of those folks involved in the conversation as well, because it's one thing to create suggestions and regulatory framework. But when the rubber meets the road, we need to know what's going to work for private developers, as well as the public developers like down street or other individuals. So anyway, thank you for the work. Sorry for the technological delay. Really embarrassing. And that's all I had to say. So thank you. To create the task force structure, is that something that we need to vote on to create or just agree on as a consensus? How does that work? It's a task force that the select board is going to create. And so you're the creators. You can do whatever you want with it as far as structuring how you want it. You've already advertised a little bit, I think. Just verbally, yeah, I'm not putting out. But yeah, it's really up to the select board. There's no prescribed structure or number of people. I meant specifically, do we need to have a vote on record for the creation of the structure, or we can just decide as a consensus and then go forward with advertising or soliciting? Yeah. I don't think it really matters. Obviously, consensus or vote, we're going to cut to the Okay. Just try to follow all rules. Any input as to that structure as to reiterate, as Alyssa had noted from last meeting, we had a select board member planning commission, EFUD, a public member or two, and then either somebody from Downstreet or Orbel hasn't provided. Thank you so much. It was, yeah. And I would just offer my personal comment that I really agree and echo your comment around potentially like a larger committee. I think it's a question of balancing getting on wielding at the 12 to 15 size, but also if it's a question of task force is or smaller subgroups. And I guess in terms of next step, I did just want to like Steve said he's going to provide staff support and that's on the phone decision. I would say that's I never want anyone slowing down. Maybe you could advertise anyway, but I just do want to acknowledge that he offered some support on the municipal side and I've been close that group. So that's my only hesitation in terms of thinking around that stuff. So we could leave this meeting with a potential structure and then follow up with Steve before going forward with solicitation and first meetings or perhaps a good need with Steve and come up with a proposed structure and certainly for the next meeting. Thank you. Anything else on that? All right, that concludes the sec word items moving on to managers items. First is reviewed naming private road, honeysuckle hill road, sweet road. Okay, I think you have information on that from Steve probably. Next step. So any road that has three or more houses on it needs to be aimed for in one one purposes. So this is off sweet road. You have more information than I do. Was everyone able to read, would it be helpful if I read the email or has everyone reviewed it? If you got it? Yeah, I'm working on the project. It's pretty straightforward. Yeah, I wrote to Steve and asked if you know there's any issues that seem straightforward and if there was any other considerations and you know, he said he is always supposed to move forward and I think seem an order so take a motion. I'll move to accept the name of honeysuckle hill road development off of sweet road. Moved and seconded further conversation. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Excellent. Passments. Moving forward discussing wassy and new facility. Okay, I think all of you are very aware of the fact that wassy has been looking for new days for quite some time now the the town of watery dominated space and built a building up behind our highway garage before I arrived here in 1988. I'm not sure exactly when the building was built. We have a lease with wassy and the facility is small and not state of the art and especially doing COVID and PCR testing and all the other stuff that they've been doing to build COVID it's cramped quarters. Mark Poguate is here and a couple of weeks ago he talked to me. I asked him to come up and I met with Mark and others there about where they were in the process. Mark and money is available. I'm not suggesting that we give it to them but the part of the conversation that Mark and I had was about that. So Mark, you're here and I'm sorry I can't remember your name. Apologize. If you both want to come up to the table. I did ask Mark to remind me what the confiduations are that that we make as a municipality for the operation of wassy. I think all of you understand that wassy is a private nonprofit organization that provides and went service to Walgreens, Ducksbury, parts of Ducksbury, all of Ducksbury was part of more. And so up until a few years ago there was no request for a public appropriation for wassy to any town. Walgreens had, as I said, donated the land and provided the building. And that was it. A few years ago they found it necessary to ask the communities that they served to some money all in and we monetize the value of the lease and the building. And then there's a cash appropriation which is in the $50,000 range now. So Walgreens all in total to wassy with the building and the appropriation is about a $11,000 right now. 76% of the money that comes from municipalities comes from Walgreens. Ducksbury pays about 20% of the total $28,000 for a $750,000 so say $28,500. And Moortown which they just cover sliver up $6,130 comes from Moortown about 4%. The total municipal appropriation including that monetized lease is $145,620. So we had a fairly sparse agenda tonight. I called last week asking if he wanted to come in and talk to the board to give an update as to where they are and what if anything that they're hoping to work out with Walgreens. So where we are now finally after 4.5 years living for a location and 5 or 6 different locations 5 or 6 different designs finally have found one over on the waterway so right where we're going so old fuel tanks are. So that's the location plans have been drawn up. Design has been done in this preliminary design and development process began from last week. We in anticipation and this week before I got here six years ago we're putting money away for this because we knew at some point in time this was going to happen. Pre-hospital emergency medicine had changed. We've gone from all volunteer state which we had in the 70s, you don't want to see what's founded to slowly going to now we need to pay more people. We have more condition apartments. There are only two apartments and the entire state of Vermont right now and they don't pay their folks something. We've got other things going on too as far as pre-hospital emergency medicine goes back in the late 90s EMT classes were pretty much under bucks. Now it's about $1,800 a day one person just put through the training let alone the hours of the time they have to dedicate the time they have to dedicate the changes that keep occurring and keep adding the protocols to do more things in the field. We're adding more things as a service and to the community such as CPR training stop the training. We have a cursive filling station that we do as well so there's all kinds of extra added perks to go along with with pre-hospital emergency medicine. What we don't have are volunteers. We don't have time to volunteer. As we all have dual incomes, part-time jobs, the whole bit, people just don't have the time to commit like they used to. There needs to be some kind of cash incentive for them to hang around. So we've gone to that part of the community department that we have 100% volunteer back in the day. So now we have two full-time employees, I didn't know, and we have eight premium folks who work in the right leaderships. We're happy to report though since I got here six years ago, since many of you got here two years ago, we've built a solid core team. Nothing we didn't have a solid core team before we got founded on that team. And we've gone from issues where we had holes in gaps in the schedule, you know, being 100% covered 24 hours a day, which is a lot of, I don't say a lot, there are agencies in the Vermont EMS District 6 where we are located now that are having trouble filling their slots. So with that though comes other considerations that we didn't have to consider such as training them, size, size of the equipment. We have a new ambulance coming next May. It's eight inches too long to fit in the criminal bay. And it's not because we ordered an ambulance to be, it's how big they are. There's sleeping quarters that we don't have, yet we don't have people 24-7. We need to, because of the reduction in volunteer force that we have in the local area, we need to be able to branch out to communities, by the way. We're able to provide sleeping quarters for these folks, kitchen facilities and so which is in the design, it's all inclusive. And with that, and Bob, into the financing and where we are now and where we're going and an ambitious piece of this deal is when we open a good ground in the public. As Mark mentioned, going into this project, we have 1.5 million dollars available. That's from both savings and from COVID-19 response. So we got a call to set up some testing sites. We did so, we responded to do at home vaccinations and that expanded into doing vaccinations, not only in Waterbury but throughout the state. And when we're doing those vaccinations, we are being paid by the state those testing and vaccination sites. To date, we've administered over 47,000 vaccinations and over 150,000 tests. So we're pretty grateful for the team that we've built to be able to do that. In 2020, we just want to highlight the very ambulance service of the year. So that was kind of from the work, not just COVID, but from the quality of the teams that we have, which we're really proud of. I think that our team is as diverse as Waterbury is with that young people. We have all people, we have, you know, people from all walks of life, which are very grateful. Generally, it's one person who's paid on a volunteer and there's two volunteers. As Mark was saying, volunteers are decreasing. We do still have people who are volunteering. Mark, just last year, got a lifetime EMS award. So he's brought to Waterbury to engage in building that reputation. So like I said, 1.5 million dollars available since we started fundraising in the spring and a little bit before that, we've raised $730,000. So that's committed and or given. So there's some folks who say, I want to go a multi-year gap. So that leaves us to 1.5 million. So we have 270,000 left to raise. So those are some of that 750 is pledges. Exactly. The majority of it is pledges, people that want to give over. And some of them are contingent on where the project is and where the project is going. So making sure that we obviously, well, I couldn't let me tell they know that we're going to the building. So we're feeling like Mark said that we're on track. We still have $270,000 left to raise, which is quite a bit. And we do anticipate with that 2.5 million dollar budget that we have right now, with the cost of materials, the supply chain issues, we do anticipate that goal going up in the future from that 2.5, just because of the way the world is right now. So while we're grateful for how far we've gone, we still have a long way to go. And every little bit of support helps. And we've been blown away by the library community and the legals have stepped up. And just to highlight, we are grassroots to the max. We're marking our full time for their 48 hours a week at least. And then an ambulance call goes and we run out of office and hop on the ambulance and go back home. So it's not like we have a fundraising team, a marketing team. So we're definitely doing this. It does. And so we're definitely doing our best. I'm trying really hard to get that messaging out and have those during the meetings and do everything that a fundraising campaign should professionally do. But we're stretched pretty thin between COVID response for still we have 90 vaccination clinics this month and plan to send you that in the fall. So this month? And it's been, and we're really grateful for our crew. It's not just we've got maybe 44 people who are on the ambulance. We've also expanded to have a team of 200 employees, whether it's maybe under same students, EMTs from the surrounding area. Mark has a network convening in us for over 20 years of people that he's trained that have joined their team just to help with the vaccination and COVID response. And there's definitely a future for us in all sorts of the inter-facility transfers and other types of response that we can be doing community paramedicine and doing more. So we're grateful for whatever support and we have been not only fund raising the client for the grant of wealth, which several have been successful. However, there are not a whole lot of grants for this particular type of project. Usually we'll make a system of fighter fighter grants, for example, which still exists today, but back when that grant which came out, facilities were part of that, now they're no longer part of that. Senator Sanders introduced the bill last March that I can never remember about my head, but would include funding to support facilities, new facilities, reconstruction, and so on. Unfortunately, so far that bill has not been a distraction. But we keep trying. We keep trying here at the local level. I'm on the state's EMS advisory committee legislature. We keep trying to read up so many a way to from the local legislature, which we were not as successful this year as we have been in the past years, but we're trying to leave no stone left unturned. I mean, we're attached to just for every community business that we can think of and reaching out to individual donors with the help of our trustees and volunteers. And wanting to close here, fund raising. We're hoping to break ground in fall 2022. That's all. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's over there. That's what I argued when we built this building, that when you said no, you didn't break ground in the past. Other questions? I've been in this for 40 years. No, I'm not. I mean, I agree with what I'm saying. So, I've got a few questions. Ted, we were talking about, before I forget it, the grant processor that would help upgrade municipal buildings and whatnot for any efficiency. There's probably no way that some of that could get rightful through them. Are they? They're not actually a part of the municipality. So which parcel, if I ask, are you building on? Is it the actual born site or piece of the sale property? It's a piece of the sale property. Where did you get your cost analysis? Cost analysis is done by the county. And when was that done? So you'll be up on the upper plateau as the town did some exploration there on wastewater and whatnot for possible fire station. Years ago and the soils were very qualified for wastewater. So this will be, this project will be done by Connor, just thinking that we, through this building and even the fire station, we were able to really bring in some of the costs that were projected originally and know if there was possibility of doing something within somewhere here. Connor has agreed when they're working with folks that you ask for impact activations and they're working with the materials so they don't have to make that commitment to help with trying with that cost in terms of supplies. I'm just going to get my wheels spinning there. I'll keep my eye on the target here. So fall of 2020. Just to break it down a little bit, the cost of the land purchase is $250,000. The excavation on the property alone is $250,000. So before we even start building, we're $500,000 into the project. So in terms of location, we've looked really hard and tried to find a spot that would work and it appears to be the best fit for us. So I'm going to ask questions. Maybe I don't know if they can be answered or not. But did Connor bought the SAF property? Did they buy the SAF property? Can't say, don't say. Other than I will say that we don't want two projects. Well, all my questions, what's going to be, did you get the property donated to you by SAF? That's obviously the property is the sale. The property is contingent upon being permitted, which we're really grateful for. Because we obviously didn't want to buy it to the property. Other questions? Yeah, I'm just saying thank you. I've always been contested many times. Very appreciate it. Is obviously our understanding of what there is in this, the ultimate goal? Is there any goal you see long to any type playing in the project or is the goal just to do all our current goals? The goal is also in touch with some of them. We don't really know how to do that. We are set with what we're going to do, but we don't have such a goal. It's really hard to ask donors for money to pay back. Obviously. Well, it's not necessarily asking the donors for money to pay back alone. This project, this was a $5 million building and the loan was $300,000 because we got a million dollar grant from the federal government through the state. But the library and the historical society raised a million dollars. So it's not necessarily asking the donors to pay back alone. We're asking the donors to help build the project and you might need a loan. I understand why you don't want a mortgage. None of us. It's not possible to get people to contribute even if it's going to be debt. So here we are. And so the select board's benefit, I did tell the American region when I met with them that we're kind of again just like we were with CD5 or outside of the normal budgeting process and where we've got these agro funds, we have talked about having the public help select board inform the select board about what things are important. And so I'll ask the question this way, does the help that might come from the municipality have to come before you break ground? In other words, we go through a budget process in December and January and have time meeting in March. That's where your normal appropriation comes in. And I'm not here to say no to our funding right now, but I think it's kind of a harder ask than it would be after the board goes through a process to identify what needs are in the community. So that's the question. Does it have to be before you break ground or is there a way to install the project as venture to say no? Yeah, I think that's, I mean our struggle is what we've been talking about the last few meetings is knowing really where our decision-making power lies with the legislative body in the town. Is there a direct ask or an amount ask that you have for us? We've been kind of wrestling around with these different ways to figure it out and the answer is you guys are our first job, we're going to go and visit more towns and towns and towns, but kind of divide it in between percent and trick and work. We do, we do the same thing with Pocatro. Now, number 100,000 people just to keep it ground. So 76%, 76%, 100,000. The figure is about 76%, 76%, something like that. Yeah, 76% is what we pay us. Oh right, the amount of municipal money that funds your operation and 76% of that comes from water. So we apply those percentages to a set amount of such say, I mean, I understand what you're saying. So it's going to be 76 months. And I do appreciate that you're going to talk to the other community. It's one of the things that I, you know, that's why I sent you the email was because after we met, I said, it would be helpful if you could remind me how much of your money comes from waterway versus the other times because I think it's from our perspective, it's fair and it seems from your perspective, it's fair and both your communities participate in this. Just to add our operating budget annually is $450,000. So the funding that you bring from the town from the towns that appropriation is a portion of the budget for waterway. It's not 100%. Well, from my perspective, it seems like a reasonable ask and a reasonable use of our funding. We have, I think decided that we don't, we don't know if we have the authority to allocate it right now, but it's something that I've been interested in going into the budget. Okay. With regard to CD5 or there's more and more evidence that whether it's right or wrong, there's more and more evidence that other towns are doing what? What we did in terms of carrying this out or make a determination. And as Mike said a little bit ago, a significant portion of their $750,000 pledge. So I suppose they would be willing to accept a pledge of back throughout $100,000, 76% of that would be 75, so they would choose approval. By what? Yeah, that was gonna be my suggestion as we can, we might not feel comfortable making the commitment without putting in the budget, going through town approval, but I think we could discuss them on our, tonight whether we feel comfortable making that pledge contingent upon, as Bill said, voter approval. Other thoughts or input from the board members? And so then what would be the best way to move forward with that? Well, if you wanna do that, I would suggest that you could make a motion that said that you can start with $100,000 and state that whatever you'd be willing to appropriate 76% of that subject to voter approval at town meeting. And I would also subject it to the fact that the other 24% comes from the other time. So in other words, if Duxbury and Moitam say, no, we're not gonna participate, I'm not saying that we don't participate at all, we get to talk to them about how they, you might do it otherwise, because I think there is. So that's how I would structure that. So I'll move that we pledge $76,000 of market funding towards the construction of the new Watery Ambulance Facility contingent on the participation of Duxbury at 20% and Moitam at 4% and subject to voter approval. And such a straightforward approach. And then there are seconds. Thank you, Melissa's second. Moved and seconded for the discussion. I will say, I just seconded this motion. I think it's really important. I have absolutely zero problems with hypothetically appropriating $76,000 to us. I think they provide an incredible service to the community. And I think this is about as close to, what we call it one-time capital infrastructure expenses with non-ongoing maintenance. I mean, it's a private nonprofit providing about as valuable as the service we're meeting as we can get. I have been the squeaky wheel on this all month, so I'm gonna keep saying it, but from the outside of perspective, I know voters approved the $100,000 to the Iceland but we now have $100,000 that went to a private nonprofit. We have the $50,000 for CB5 or any of the $76,000 that were just made emotional. And so I'm a little concerned about the ongoing pattern of what private nonprofit and waterways gonna come in with a pretty significant ask. And I think pretty soon, $50,000, and we've talked about creating a process and I know we haven't done that. So I guess I would say, I have no reservation of this particular ask for all the reasons I just stated, but I do think to me it just keeps coming to mind that I think we're just chipping away at this really important pot of funding without a broader conversation about what the strategic process is. And that does trouble me so. Again, I don't wanna vote against this because I have no problem with this particular thing but I don't love the way we're going about allocating this pretty significant resource having not done a more comprehensive planning process. I know this, like the CB5 or this time sensitive and again, I think it's a very compelling case. So I'm okay with it, but at least personally, maybe for me, I'm gonna say, this would be the last archa-allocation. I personally will vote in favor of it until there's a more comprehensive process. I have the same thought, I mean, as soon as it came up and I knew you were gonna go ahead and voice it. Do you want to go ahead and voice it here? No, whatever. But what my views were spinning in this, I will try to get it short and I think we can revisit this. I think we should in each revisit this maybe after we take this vote. But our agendas get full and even if we think it's gonna be a 30 minute conversation, I think it could be a 10 hour conversation. So my recommendation once we go through this vote is to talk about actually scheduling a special meeting to discuss our full two to two and a half hour meeting. I don't, I think it's irresponsible for us to think we're gonna squeeze it into a regular Slack board meeting. So that's gonna be my recommendation to go forward. I couldn't agree with Alyssa more. Right from the get go. I've been seeing this chipped away at and dwindling and dwindling and dwindling. And again, for what better area to put it in would be the Angular service. But we really had no real discussion about what other things out there that are as important that we need to focus on before it's all gone. And yeah, I think it's needed to be diligent about putting out the agenda and getting to it. I guess I'm too late. I think for our community too. That's what I thought. Further discussions about the vote before we take the votes? All right. All in favor. Any of the motion passes? So can I interrupt? Of course. I'm sorry. And I probably should have said this at the beginning. I'm gonna kind of ask you to add an item here, but we've been talking about it. So I'd finally been able to connect with the executive director of CD5, General Smith. I emailed her right after the last meeting. Of course, sometimes from the call, she couldn't call that and we'd be emailed back and forth. Should we let them go? Is it moving to a different topic or? Yeah, it's a different topic. Thank you so much. Congratulations on your work. It's a different topic. So anyway, at the last meeting we talked about the CD5 over $50,000 and I had a contract here that had really highlighted me and then I had asked some questions about, I didn't like the language that indicated that we are going to get excessive rounds about the funding that we needed to pay them every time we got paid. So we spoke this afternoon and this is an issue that CD5 has dealt with with some other individual talent. So Ms. Smith is going to do two things. She's going to send me the new kind of start-over contract that they are proposing to make with their member of communities and she's going to amend the one that had the green and red, I mean, the green and yellow highlighting on that we looked at last week. So when I, I'm very comfortable with what she talked about today, we're going to remove any reference at all from their standard contract with regard to the number of underserved households. I shared with her my concern and I think it was a concern of the board that, you know, where we currently have internet capability on some streets in high-end neighborhoods where people are not willing to spend their own money to connect up their driveway. It's at the right way, it's on the public highway. I said, you know, I'm not sure that somebody who lives in a million dollar house that doesn't want to spend money to connect to the internet that's a half a mile down the driveway that they wanted to be a half a mile long is really how we want to spend that money. So they're removing this terminology for unserved and underserved. They're going to be targeting economic necessity. So it sounds to me much more in keeping to the motion that Roger made that we, we, and I explained the reason why we want to review the construction plans before you go ahead is that we'd like to see what we're doing and what we're paying for. So she indicated that their board had similar concerns. So what I left her with was that she wasn't going to be able to get this information to me in an email until tomorrow that I would talk to the board tonight and ask you to allow me to go ahead and sign the contract. I can circulate it to all of you to see if there's any red flags, but I'm pretty confident given the motion that the board made, what we've talked about a couple of different times with Linda and now with my conversation with Janelle Smith that we're ready to go ahead and sign this. And if you have concerns about that, I can say, no, if you want me to wait until the next meeting, I can bring it back here and I can view it, but I know that they're also a little bit interested in getting going, so. No, I feel like you understand our concerns and it sounds like you've worked out a better wording of the new contracts, so I feel like we should give you the authority to move forward with that letter and review it. Yeah, I'm right on board. You've been looking out for our best interest when it comes to the value of this dollar. We're more appropriately should go off. If you could just look at the minutes by consensus, you don't have to make them. Okay. What's the budget census? Yeah, that's the first consensus. Negotiate the contract. If it's, you can't move. Okay, I'll move that, I'll authorize Bill to sign this new agreement that he has just described and I want to see if he finds it. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you for letting me sneak that in. And to follow up, so we got an email from Linda that Jamil was looking to have a meeting with you or was that just to talk about the contract? Well, I think the email from Linda was that Jamil and I have been going back and forth and she sent me an email on Friday suggesting that she could talk to me today sometime and I was off Friday, I was out of state. I did see an email and then there were a number of things that took up my time. So I didn't see even her email until late in the day today. But we did talk at the end of the day. I just wanted to make sure that was kind of the same thing. I think Linda is just trying to slip through the frack. Thank you. Linda, do you have more or did that cover it? No, I just want to thank everybody. I'm glad. No, I got an email from Jamil about 6.30 tonight that said Bill indicated that tonight he'd seek approval to sign the agreement. So I've been patiently waiting through the entire select board meeting because I didn't see it on the agenda either. So I would like to thank Bill for putting it up for approval tonight. It's extremely wonderful. I think thank you so much to the select board for doing this. I have one question I'd like to ask because I'd like to go home if that's okay. The vlct.org, they have training on cybersecurity. I'm interested in taking the training on cybersecurity. Do I have to get permission from select board or something to take this? I am an elected official as a justice of the peace. I think it's very relevant to what I'm doing with CV fiber. I have background, by the way, in cybersecurity, but I just think a brush up would be good for me. I think my recommendation, Linda, my recommendation, Linda, is that CV fibers of municipality, I would ask you to ask Janelle Smith to reach out to the LCT and see if you CV fiber can become a member of the LCT. It's your municipal organization. And I think that is better. You're not really a municipal official. The justice of the peace is not a municipal official. I guess I thought he said elected officials. No, did I misread it? Here I am tonight. Ted. Yeah, but I'll check to see if that is something that we can let you do. But the justice of the peace is not a standard elected official. You don't have any. I thought I was on the ballot. You don't have authority for many municipal functions except helping to run an election, I guess. That sounds like a municipal function to me, Bill. Thank you very much. I will talk to Janelle about it. Is there a cost to the town to take this training? Usually they have a cost associated, yes. Okay. I'll find out if justice of the peace are eligible. Okay, and I'll ask Janelle. Thank you very much for your time and for the approval. Have a great night, guys. Oh, right. Is there any benefit to switching these agenda items and then to let Skip go? Well, I think you can give, well, you can give the first one. I don't think that it's gonna be any benefit. Okay, update on manager search process in Skip. I'll have you help me fill in anything I might miss. So something I wanna point out is, what thanks to Alyssa is the minutes are posted on the website after our search committee meetings that they haven't been distributed to the whole board and that's an oversight because I think it's a lot easier if we just email them to all of you. So I think that'll be the best practice going forward. Okay, they've been on the website. I think it's just the first meeting. Oh, okay, so we're not up to date. Perfect, okay, excellent. So that is, so we'll talk about that and we'll remedy that and thanks for your patience as we, you know, correct our errors. I'm gonna have to give a select board our lovely graphs. These are the results and I have an extra, I'll give the Skip one. Basically it's pretty crude, it's very simple. It's just highlighting the top choices from the survey from community members. I think what's extra interesting is just the other responses that we got. So it's worth just reading through. The top two were the updating and modernizing zoning regulations, support housing and economic development and road maintenance. Those two were highly ranked in first and second place and stood out. So I think that's for everyone's consideration as we decide what to submit to Rick as those priorities to put in the town profile. How many responses can we get? You know, I will let you know that it's in there. I shared a link just today right for the meeting. So it's in there and you'll have all the numbers and then follow up with questions. And I'm sorry, I got, you know, just Friday was the deadline and I did not do this till today. So that's where we're at. So, yeah, so we do need to decide both between us and EFUD or as a committee what we want to submit to Rick as those priorities, but I want to just solicit input from you all before, you know, just speaking with the committee. Can there be more than just the two? Yeah, I think he said, I think it was top three is what he said. And it doesn't need to be specifically these like we can appropriate just one of these, but we wanted to give, you know, at least opportunity for folks to chime in. So what would then be third one? The third of these, the third top. No, that's okay. I just kind of sent it just now. I believe it was the ARPA allocating ARPA funds. And this is, thank you Danny for putting this together. Yeah. And we don't need to make that decision today. What I can do is follow up. I sent you the email with this link, but what I can do is follow up and ask individually. I don't know. I just, you know, we want to move forward and I don't know how best to it to submit those to him. And we read through this. Yeah. Yeah. And then just send you comments. That's perfect. So another note is that the last, the last winning meeting we had, we approved the final draft of the job descriptions. They were separate job descriptions town and EFUD. Right now they are listed on the website. Rick asked me to submit them to Carla to put on the website so that when the advertisements are officially published, it'll link to those job descriptions because like an ad on the internet is not going to have a full job, multi-page job description. It's going to have a link to the website. Right now, I think it just says like a generic, check it back for how to get in touch because those ads aren't out. Once the actual ads are out, it will have, I think it's Rick that the solicitations go to. So just to flag, the ads are out. So I don't want to be the person but I was on a seven day job, no three days ago, that's how I actually talked to. I emailed her like a message of where it sounds like he's on vacation, but I do want to flag, there's a seven day job ad. I'm surprised to make sure you're the water-braining municipal manager. And then when you go to the town website, it's the two posts Carla had for a manager and EFUD manager. There isn't information on where it should be. There's not, yes. It just says more information is coming. So I think it's pretty important to get that remedy face up because it's being advertised out in the world and I think isn't quite complete and up to date. So I don't know whose responsibility that is. Like I said, I flagged it to Mark, to Mike because I hadn't been involved, but I saw some of these jobs. We have that date for the ads going out. It was a leak to them, but I mean, no. No, no. It might have just been a miscommunication of where it linked to, but my concern was that a Joe Schmah off the street, I believe it's linking to waterbraining.com on our homepage at the municipal website, which does have that stand in update, but. Does the ad have context information? Did you see that? I think it's a C website for additional information. I didn't see the pipeline, it was just the online one, but it says waterbraining municipal manager and then of course there's two. It doesn't say how to submit an application. Oh, right. And that's not included in the text of the job description or in a general blurb on the town website. And then there's also two job descriptions for manager and EFUD and EFUD manager both currently posted so that team has also. The GDs are separate. The ads will be an ad for one position. So there was a date that was chosen to publish the ad. I don't have that in front of me. It would be in those meetings. So like I said, that concern is just that it's on. Yeah, I understand. And I will follow up on that. Like how to submit. So I'm gonna ask you a stupid question. Probably not stupid. Probably. Was ZLCT supposed to be the one that was supposed to be doing the advertising when everything got ready and so that it was complete before it got put out? Yes. So. So I need to follow up with, so Rick is the person. I need to put it in here. Don't know. I don't have an answer to that. So unless you do skip. No, yeah. So we're gonna have to follow up with Rick. Are candidates allowed to apply for one independent of the other? It turns out, I don't know the answer to that question. Because my assumption is no, but I'm not gonna say that with authority because I feel confused by the lack of clear communication. So. I would hope that that could get clarified pretty quickly. So I don't think E5 wants to pay for their own manager, do they? I said, I don't think E5 wants to pay for their own manager, do they? Two job descriptions for the municipal manager. And within the municipality, what was two, let me just tell you, profile describes that there's two, because two specific jobs requirements that we're filling. And it's from one position to one and one and one. Design is a one single position, but there are distinct responsibilities here but clarity when you're looking at it is important, so. I will follow up with Rick personally. I will include Mike because Mike has been in theory. He volunteered to be the person to liaise between the board and the committee. Obviously that communication is not going, well, just in terms in general. So I will reach out to Rick and Mike. And follow up. Thank you. That was a lot. And I would just say, I totally appreciate it. And again, I think it's not, I think it's been very clear and intense. So I don't want to give the impression like. No, it's fine, especially because we're at the point where things are starting to happen. And that's the most important point to be able to. No, I think it's really clear. I just, and I did just pull it up. Okay. Yeah, seven days. And it says a detailed drop description. It's available by clicking the web, web link icon. Call that above, hold please. And it's going to the news feed on the talent there right now. And it's saying that we seek to appoint. Municipal Manager and District Manager. So again, I think just that explanation, text of the rules, either to drive. So in the ad, there's no, how to submit an application. Well, I think it does let you submit an application. Okay. Seven days drop. Actually, I've seen ads through seven days drop. Definitely use their own platform to apply for some. I heard through a great find, there's some applicants. So somebody's for you guys. Yeah, it says to apply for this job, login slash register on this one. A seven days drop. Okay. Apply for back. Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. That's what I need to know. When you contact Rick, you can ask him if he's had the cards to the ICMA newsletter. The only reason I ask is because I get the ICMA newsletter on the Monday and the most recent newsletter went out last week and the water job wasn't advertised. We have, I don't know. So it may have. Yeah. You may have gotten it in, you know, and they wait after that deadline, it should be in that publication. Yeah. We have a list of all the places where the ad is going to be placed. I don't have the link. Like I don't have it right now. I'm sure I remember from reading an email from Rick that that was one place that it's supposed to be open. Has not appeared. No. Super. Oh, I'm going to do that. More questions that I can't answer, please. No, I'm going to try again. I'm kidding. I'm going to profile a secondary and it will be a really beautiful follow-up that's informed by a comprehensive public input survey to that input. This is just one of the tasks to do this. All right. We will move forward. Discussion of water system. That's you, sir. Thank you for entertaining me here. Reminds me of days of being a trustee. I put together a PowerPoint to tell this story. I went over it with Woody this afternoon. And if I talk fast, I can get through it in 45 minutes, but it's more likely to be an hour. So if you wanted to defer and come back at another time, I'd be glad to do that or we can proceed there. I don't think I've done that here or not. So we're at the very bottom to 77%. Let's assume that I come to the left, that kind of looks, yeah. So are we good with an hour of presentation or should I just leave the arrow through unless you don't want that, but it made it possible? Okay. Thank you. An hour. So this is an hour presentation. And so skip me the offer of continuing tonight. I scheduled the off schedule or at least that one. Coming back to some other guy right here. Got it, sure. But how significant is it? Is there some deadlines that we've got to meet or is it just a reason? No, just information offer. The trouble is this was supposed to be a short agenda. It's a really straightforward short agenda. And this was also scheduled for 25 minutes, but it's an hour and 60 minutes. The question to you is, any idea with no clue what the next agenda is going to include as far as, or do we just slide in for- There's not much on the next one. And then if we do schedule it in for the next one, let's make sure we put an hour versus 25 minutes. Yeah, to give that timeframe. And Woody and I have worked on it most of today, kind of back and forth, collecting stuff. I worked on it from Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. A lot more fun working on it. Saturday and Sunday listening to the Red Sox Yankees game that I did on Friday. But there's a lot of information here. And from my perspective, you really need to know the history of the water system to appreciate how we got to where we are today. That's my pick. I mean, I don't carry the weight. I was like, I might be raining hard outside, so you might just want to sit. I don't know if I'm happy with that. I want you to do it. Okay, okay, let's rock and roll then. I'm gonna not be good, but I have to do it better. So you can start and I'll be right back. We're doing a late-end presentation. Who doesn't watch when we have the next one? Oh, no, we're not seeing that. Come on, you guys. I didn't know we were going to attend camp, but sometimes we were going to do this. We were going to have some fun. Thank you, and now we're really happy to see you. I thank you, and I'm never happy to see you again. Sorry, I was going to say I didn't know. First time I get to see my grandkids are all over here. I'm gonna pick you some into the car. You can start, yeah. Yeah, I'll try to go in the car. I'm not full, I'm just going to go in the car. That's good. Thank you. I'm trying to seize the moment. Yeah, sometimes these things don't go quite right. What looks like last week's part? That is a slip. Skip, you can start. So I'll do it again. I'll do it again. I'll do it again. Get the green lights, Skip, go ahead. I'll try, but I can't tell. Can they see your screen or is it your chair? I'll just go. A little bit of a background. Okay. Oh, good. Who brought snacks? I'm going to give you a 30 second background on my situation to give you the perspective of what I have here that I grew up in at the time. I lived in Waterbury Village, walked to school four times a day for 12 years, went to Northeastern University, had a degree in civil engineering, graduate school and sanitary engineering. Got a job with the AG environmental conservation for 39 years. I lived in Waterbury Center for 10 years from 69 to 79 and moved back to the village. I moved back here all that time. So that's my perspective on this water system and appreciate it. I chose this slide to open as, if you knew about the water system, you stood at Rusty Park Park, which is on the right. When you look over the well house, you can see Mount Hunger, which is where the start of the water for the Waterbury water system comes from. The other place that you can see Mount Hunger at the same perspective is down in the hospital green, looking over the Gold Baker house there, you can see Mount Hunger. Next slide. Mount Hunger is elevation 3540, the elevation of Main Street is 428. So that's the elevation of the water travels that when you turn on the faucet in Waterbury, that's huge. Next. From my perspective, this water system is the most critical and the oldest of the utilities in Waterbury. And in 1896, they constructed this water system. I think this is the most important, fourth most important event in making Waterbury what we enjoying today. Next. My first event is from New Milford. I can't see the presentation on Zoom. Are you guys going through the slideshow right now? Yeah, I couldn't see the slideshow presentation on Zoom. I don't know if that. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, that should. Yeah. That was it. Let's try that one more time. Oh, wait. So that's the big, that's the presentation mode one right there. That's when I write in. They can see. Can you see it? I mean, I can see the first one. I just don't get a presentation mode. We might not be able. I'm going to close this one. I'm going to close this one. I'm going to close this one. In the search. I'm afraid of any battle. I think that's just. Well, if you minimize it, you'll see what. Oh, right. Yeah. Where is it now? So now you can say share. I'm working. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Great. Thank you. You see it. Yep. Okay. So these are the four events that I think. What a great. And he. One of the rig lowers in New Belford, Connecticut. He was the first town clerk of water. Great. His records from Connecticut are in our ball. And he came to Waterbury in 1782 to survey it. That's just the start. James Mars, settled in 1783. And the railroad came through in the 1849. And the water. Really changed the development of water. And the water system in 1896. The system of pipes and storage on blush kill. That provided constant pressure and a system of fire hydrants that are important to the fire protection. Next. 1895, the approved construction of this system with the surface of the water. It takes them the springs that was six miles from the village up on Mount hunger. We had a 500,000 gallon storage tank on blush hill. That was 230 feet above the village. That provided 100 pounds pressure constantly in the village. That was a great design. And it did involve pumping to provide the pressure. Designed by. Don Foster, who was a superintendent of water in Montreal. And is built by L Taylor of. Wisted Mass. And much of the labor. Was provided by Italian immigrants. That it's excavated all the trenches by hand. So 12 miles of trench, even though it's six miles away. They were multiple pipes. Different times. different times. It costs $32,000 at that time, which is $1.1 million in today's dollars. And they were designing it for 225,000 gallons back in 1895. This is a little profile of hand-drawn with my CC Warren ruler this morning from Elbace and Woody gave me that the intake's in these two brooks to around 1200 feet. We have a spilling basin at 1100, elevation 1158. The water plant today is at elevation 989 and on Bless Hill is 685 as our reservoir in our main street at 628. So water is coming downhill. That's the profile that was in 1895, and it's still our profile today. Then before the water system was constructed, the village had two small private systems that couldn't provide fire protection or anything. One of the primary purses I think was to provide fire protection in 1895. That water system led to granite cotton business, the sownsheds expanding in Waterbury and milk handling pregreens were a big business in Waterbury that they were shipping three car loads of milk to Boston today. The next major improvement that they could get was the gravel pack well on the park that they built and constructed in 1938. They had just purchased the park from the railroad in 1929. Over the years. Yeah, Roger. Rusty Parker Park. And then other upgrades of transmission lines and a micro strainer in 1974 that was removing sticks and leaves next. This is the park well built in 1938. It was a gravel pack well. They drilled test wells probably 17 to 20 test wells all over Waterbury. This is the only one that developed the water source that they wanted. It's about 200,000 gallons today. The well was 22 feet deep and the pump was on the second floor because of the flood protections that pump went, took it in and out of through the roof, which I think when we gave the part building to the rotary, they had to pull that well out through the roof. They had just purchased the park in 1929 from the railroad. The next day, the commissioners installed a micro strainer. You can see it on the right. The young fellow looking at the mic micro strainer, Woody guess right that that was that our young youthful town manager Alec Tuscany looking at the micro strainer. And on the left, I've got it reversed on the right. That's where the micro strainer on the right and left on the right is the building that it's located in built in 19. Well, the stilling basin is behind it in 1924. And I think they built that building to put the micro strainer. It's still there today use their storage next. In March of 1998, it was a new start in watering for the water department. It was just what began as our town and village manager. And I was elected a water commissioner along with Chuck Magnus. The other water commissioner was Bob Bryant. And all is well until July when we had a problem. And it required to be turned on this part well that we just talked about. The newspaper said it was the first time in 17 years. I didn't remember that, but it could be true. And our first sample from that part well show contamination with Benzy, which is evidence of contamination from gasoline. And we had an issue of well water order to reduce Benzy below the safe level. We resorted to turning on the generic well, which is another well that we had is back up connected to the system fire and iron and manganese. You let us set for a couple hours and all rusty. We had to shut the park well off. And then we did a test to run it for 48 hours. I think they will check for the levels of Benzy, which increased as we ran it. The wasted water went into a storm drain in front of the railroad station, which flooded out our wastewater system. So that was the first few months of 88. But the beginning of improvements to the water system that we have today. And we were also told by the state during that drought that we could not connect any new no new connections could be made to the system to rectify these problems. Yes, we had many conversations with the Department of Health and Things at that time. We immediately began working with Tom Nesbitt at New Fray Henry, which was the village engineers at the time, and Wagner Heidel and the waste of hydrogeologists to design a water treatment system and develop brown water sources. We secured an option on 35 acres from Jack's suite up there called Sweetsfield now. And I think it was $150,000 that we paid for it. I didn't couldn't find that in the village practice. We used fracture trace analysis and dowsing. We located three productive well sites that we eventually drilled on. There's a story of Mike Grace and I went up to the Dowsard Society at Danville and he dowsed over a map with a pendant. We get 56 gallons a day from a well that was 89 feet. What he found the original map today that Mike and I had had when we went up to the Dowsard Society. 56 gallons a minute? 56 gallons a day. The NOS drill three wells in Sweetsfield where we did the fracture trace analysis. They all turned out well and we drilled in the old spring adjacent to the Tyler Brook in the water field shed, which turned out to be the best well of all. And with these new water sources, we had plans for a water treatment system upgrade. They were approved in January 1990. The village voters approved the bond vote for $4.36 million in the total project cost of $7,595 million and we got $3,459 million in state and federal grants. This is the water treatment plan. It was started operating in 1992, dedicated to Earl's Town, who was a long time water superintendent in August of 1892. We did that. Next. And these are the features from the dedication pamphlet that we had that, you know, the filtration system. We had a flocculation and clarification, filtration and removability bacteria, color, water and organics and all these other things. The commissioners at the time wanted to have steel tanks that you didn't have to take down every 10 years in pink. We appealed to the commissioner. We finally allowed to have the standard steel tanks that we haven't had to do any maintenance on. These are the officials and representatives at the time. The plant was dedicated there. The trustees, Jeff Kilgore, every copy of Mickey Faye, Mike Grease, our superintendent, and Lydia was the assistant and all the consultants that we had. Next. These are the sources that are approved in our current water permit. You can see Tyler and Mary and Brooke Gants were some of the original sources in 1895. And then the list of the springs that those fellows that purchased and had been piped in the system all these years. As you'll see wells two, three and four were in Sweet's field. We built separate pipes. So their pipes down to the water treatment plant into the clear well that we don't have to run those through the water treatment plant, which gives us backup water supply sources, both the surface water and the wells at the time. So our proof capacity, if you add those up is the wells add up to the 261 gallons a minute to 375 gallons a day. There's the additional 325 is the well that was in the old spring. The biggest well of all there. They were allowing us 30 gallons a minute from the water treatment plant. They were allowing us 30 gallons a minute from the water treatment plant. Tyler and Mary and Brooke in a drought period. That's this low flow that they authorized. Next. Hey, Skip, is that before the 2014 ANR study that suggested the brook over on levels, I should say, or even, you know, I guess, you know, passing levels. Do you know what I'm talking about the spring? I think it's the first gate in the waterworks headed north. I didn't really hear all he asked, but those are safe flows for drinking water supply. So what was the year you're asking about? Well, I think the report was done in 2014 by ANR. We don't have to get into it now. I just was curious. Thanks. Don't know. Anyway, you know, the treatment components and things here is the water treatment plan is the filters and things is approved for 350 gallons a minute at 504,000 gallons a a day with one filter. We have two filters. One's a backup. We also add fluoride to the water for dental benefits as well as the chlorination and things. And this is where it says, you know, weekend pump well, two well, three and well for directly into the treatment plan to finish water tank. And these are the samplings that were required to do for the system. Bacteria sampling. We have a wet and copper sampling plan disinfection by products and things of surf source protection area plan for the wells and surface water up in waterworks there. During the 1991 construction. It was a fatality and one of the construction workers, a young lady who was accidentally electrocuted on Barnes Hill. She was a flyer. She drove here from Richmond. She was helping direct a pipe that was being lowered into the trench and the excavator got either touched electrical wire or got too close to it. Unfortunately, she was electrocuted. This doesn't show up too well. But the two young men in there are my breeze and witty. This is right. I think you can see the filtration tanks on your left here. That's the chlorination bench on the right. Correct. Thanks. Next. This is my race in the treatment plant. Office and. Mike and Woody. Woody thought they were getting ready to do a. Talk for school kids showing how you tap the waterline. This is the place of the filter media. They are to show the kids and tell them how the system works. They've had numerous. Class trips up there. You're about the water system. So. This is one of the expansions of the system for the loose system was a couple of years ago. They were ordered by the health department to. Correct the system. They were on spring in for years. We have supplemented their water system by connection between the village pipe. The loose pipe. It wasn't adequate. They were ordered to use the water system. It wasn't adequate. They were ordered to do something. We began talking with the. The owner of the system at the time. And. We agreed to. Connect them to the system. But the user shouldn't pay for that construction. So we came up with a. Plan that the loose customers would connect to the system, but they paid for that construction costs. And it turned out to be $27 and 50 cents. Cost quarter that they pay us. The village bonded for this construction costs. Because the village at the time had a lower. Average income. Average income. The people determined the interest rate that farmers home would let you borrow money. Next slide. Anyway, we bonded. For a hundred and. Can you come back to that? Why do you do. I thought we bonded for a hundred and seventy thousand dollars. The total project cost was five hundred and eighty two thousand dollars. So branch and things covered that additional construction. As of the town wasn't eligible for the grants. The interest rate was probably lower, but the town would not be eligible for those. Grants. Village. That is all by the. The system. Turned over all the. All of that to the village in exchange for that. The other system we took over. Yeah. Take over. We've worked with him. We talked with him. We talked with him. We talked with him. In 1997 was the Dukesbury work out system, which was a similar situation to which the loose system was. They were under orders that adequate. Pipes and a large supply. We talked to them. They purchased a. Capacity from the village. And they formed this. And then they got the system. I don't have their. Dollars that they. Did that. And they paid off their bond. And now. We've been. Sending their bills. They pay us a fee. For their bills and things that pay the town. Our water rate. Plus the extra fee that goes to Dukesbury. They pay us a fee. And they pay us a fee. And they pay us a fee. The maintenance on that system. And they're in the process of talking to the attorney and how they may. Give all their assets to the. E fund. And we would take over that line home. And they would be paid the same rate as the. Village customers, which include operation and maintenance. They pay for the. The amount of. They happen sometime this year. This is a map of sweet steal that we purchased and shows the three wells that we. Drill that are located by. Toesers and. Fractured trees analysis. Do you own the property or do you just. The. Deal property. Yeah, we, we bought it from. Jack, sleep for $150,000 back in 88, 89. So the three wells, you can see one at the back, was 450 feet, 75 gallons a minute. Well, two, three are 83 feet, and 50 gallons a minute, and another well four, which is 500 gallons a minute, 35 gallons. And you can see the solar array that we're going to talk about in a minute that was built there. This is a aerial photo map of Sweetfield. I'm not sure the date, but the solar array is there. You can see the roads around there. This is well one that was drilled in a spring location, high yield spring, that when we first looked at it, there was a little doghouse there, and it had a lot of water there. So the fracture trace showed that it was a potential hollow yield site. We drilled a 600-foot deep well there that has a capacity of 325 gallons a minute. We drilled an 8-inch diameter well, and we put in the biggest pump that we could get, and we couldn't pump all the water. We should have drilled a 10-inch well. And Woody checked out that this is next to the Tylerbrook Dam that an elevation about 1,300 feet with a well 600 feet deep. The bottom of that well was down to where to teach a store at Little Park and Waterbury Center. That's the bottom of the well. We have dams on the two streams that we take water from. I thought this was the Marionbrook Dam, but would he correct the need that it's the Tylerbrook Dam, where the water is coming in up here and the intakes are kind of at the far end where the intake screens are. We now have signs up that say no swimming in case any of the hikers or things wanted to take a dip in the water. The stream flow comes in and overflows out, and we take a pipe flow there. Thanks. Now there's no overflow because all of the water is being taken up for the water treatment there. Next, this is the other dam. They're pretty similar. When Skipsha says now there's no overflow because it's all being taken out for water, there's no overflow because it's been dropped. Yeah. In weather times, in most springs, that box fills up, water goes down the pipe, but there's still no overflow, but when it's dry, there's no overflow. So would you be getting any water out of it now? Oh, yeah. The bitter on the left there is the water coming in that we're taking down to the treatment plant. Can you explain the type of regulated water flow that these streams are? The type of regulated water flow? Yeah, these are mapped in the state A&R database. It's a specific type. I believe it's type F, regulated flow water. Something to that effect. Do you get familiar with that? Did you hear the question? He's asking if I'm familiar with the type of regulated water flow designated by A&R. We're regulating the water system. I don't know any other. Yeah, the stream classification is specifically a regulated flow, which is very different than any other flow of any other river or stream, just to give you guys a slight word of heads up on that, so that's right. This is a photo of Sweetsfield today. You can see the solar array that's there, the 500,000 kilowatt solar array we built in. We didn't build the Green Lantern built in December of 2014 and went online. We get annual income of about $11,000 in electricity and a $5,000 lease payment in the three wells. When we built the system through, we buried all the power lines. And you don't see any power lines in the picture there. And bring municipal electricity. How long, yeah, if that's electricity going down? So the $5,000 lease? The $5,000 lease is to EFOT goes to the water department because they own the land. The lease was built on village property. So the village gets the lease payment. But the electricity that gets generated, all of the electricity pretty much is used in the municipal meters. But because municipality doesn't own the array, we have to pay 95% of the credits that are generated to the company that owns the Green Lantern will be arrayed. They've sold it. It's sold twice since they've sold it. OK, so it's only 80 to 80. Yeah, somebody to follow up on it. There are periods of time in the lease where the EFOT has the ability to buy it. It's a term of the rate. After seven years, I think after 14 years, and then at the end, they're responsible for taking it down. They're still only different diseases to operate on. Right now, when it was built, I forgot what the cost of it was. But neither the town nor the village was in the position to build it at that time. It was one of the projects that came out of that old FEMA charrette after Irene. And the community didn't have the money to do that. Interesting. Yeah, there. Back to that. We had to run three phase power from down in the center some way all the way up. It was still to run the wells and things. So that was another thing we had to do. They upgraded the electrical lines all the way up here. It was kind of weird or something. But anyway, this is. I was talking about potential or not potential, but additions, significant additions to the water system, the loose customers, the. That's three more town customers. This is the old pet who in 2009, he paid to run, extend an eight inch line up to his mobile home park where he had 80 units that he paid to connect and feed and connect it up and extending it further up, kneeling flats that the adjacent properties benefit from the icons and things there for fire protection. This is also the system that was part of what was proposed by Bill that, you know, if we transferred the UDAG money and get some ARPA funds to upgrade his water system, which probably needs to win. And we talked about, you know, housing, affordable housing, things that the 80 units of this mobile home park probably fit that category and things. But this wasn't something we upgraded his internal park system that we would expect the users of the system to pay for. So that ARPA money would have helped. And if you still want to do something later on with it, we'd be glad to work with them and there may be grants and things for mobile home parks and things. So anyway, next, we also have a second in line. We have a in line hydro system in Cobleeville walk with the water moving through the pipe turns the turbine and generates electricity. We got a $60,000 grant from GMP to install it with the thought it cost about $120,000 to put in. So kind of a unique situation. The pipe size is going into it need to be extended to make it work as intended. But it is producing some electricity today. Well, it's very low now. But once that pipe just above the arrow gets upgraded, it comes closer to the 4K. Is that from the dam that's Cobleeville there? It's actually, you know, this is actually on a couple of road. So it serves just as an in, right, in, up, and down, essentially. It's basically a pressure-reducing fault. We've got a strong front of water coming down from the water plant. We've got a couple of these where we step the pressure down because if we didn't do it, we're lowering our water heaters and everything else, you know, those people are told in those areas to have their own pressure-reducing system. And because it's a mechanical system to reduce the pressure, you can put a turbine in there and generally doesn't go to electricity. And the electricity from this was supposed to go to the other side? That's correct. No. And this is the land that the E-Flight owns in Stowe. It's the waterworks. It's 488 acres in Stowe that was purchased. I didn't look up the purchase, but it must have been purchased many years ago, maybe in the 1890 period there. I've outlined the Rotorworks road, which is here going up, you know, to the end of the road to the end of the road. So, the Suma silling going through over to Barnsville that's there. The town line for Stowe, we showed that there. The Tyler Dam and the Merriam Dam is where the intakes were. And just beyond the Tyler Dam, there's a little, well, it's red to me. Oh, hey, is that the one that's on my property skip? No. All right, which one is the square box on my property? Because that's no longer. Well, we could talk about it later, sorry to interrupt. It's Glenn Anderson morning, we're at the square one, it's property. Yeah, I'm just, it's all right. We don't have to talk about this now. I'm just at sort of, I'm seeing mapping on here and I've had it before where, you know, the Stowe Land Trust is like in the Stank Connected Corridor have like literally mapped wildlife quarters, new ones across my property because of the solar development in the sweets field and all of the things that have pushed the ancient corridor that migrates between the Green Mountains and the Worcesters more and more onto our property. So that's why we're going to court in the environmental court. That's why we're in there now. So hopefully maybe there's a compromise where we could protect some property and we don't have to like fight. But, you know, I just want to make sure that you guys understand that if it appears on the map, that's something I just, I have a problem with. So thanks. It's only a map of the watershed and in Stowe. It wasn't, it didn't include, you know, the other property there and so. Okay, great. I appreciate it. I'll bump out and out here. Stay guys, bye. Let me go back to that. Oops, I just covered an announcement. And when we, I couldn't find how much we pay and property taxes to Stowe there. But we've been about $16,000 to Waterbury and Stowe in 2021. And when we started out, we, this is in a current use plan. We have a forestry management plan for this. We've longed it according to the plan things. And when we first started out, because it's in the town of Stowe, the current use plan, we were charged as fair market value for it. And I think we got that changed in the legislation. We now can take credit for the current use of the property that the taxes are reduced to Stowe as a result of this. So. Until about 20 years ago, the state's current new slide did not belong in this college to take advantage of it. And that's saved us a lot of money. Next. So this is the current system. We have 700,000 gallons of storage up on Barnes Hill. And 1.4 million gallons of storage on Blush Hill. A lot of that is for fire protection. The system has 130 hydrants on it. The pipe sizes and our storage hydrants can produce 3000 gallons a minute. That's like fire. Woody thinks we have hydrants that produce more than that. They're much more than what the fire pumper trucks can handle. So we're a highest rated water system in terms of that. Waterbury has, I believe, the highest insurance rating that you can have both through the water system and the equipment and the manpower of the fire department, which is a big savings and benefit to the people when you're close to the system and they're looking at your insurance rates and things. But the cost of maintaining this system is all worn by the users, even though others that aren't on the system do benefit from it there. So next. Mediate when it took over and I was elected our water department budget that year was $200,000. And the water department budget for 2022 was $1,307,990 that Bill had a million dollar capital outlay in there, which I'm not sure what that was meant to be. Well, that would have been $600,000 from the alpha funds that we've come to act in. We were able to build that. And then $400,000 for the other projects that we've got permits for and everything that we're waiting for funding from the state. Next. And the main street reconstruction that we waited so long for replaced the eight inch cast iron pipe that was very, that was installed in 1890 cent in the hand and trench. And it was in continuous use for 128 years. We replace it with a 12 inch pipe which is going to enhance fire flows and service. And the trustees back then and at the suggestion of Tom Nesbitt and things that the state couldn't prove they owned right away for what was the Lewinsky turn pipe, which is what route two is and the village couldn't prove it. So we click playing to any right away that the village property owners had that these utilities were in our right away so that then the state and the federal government paid to replace the utilities, the water, the sewer lines and the storm drains and things. Thus saving us the cost of replacing these bill and put in the refund report was over $5 million. Pretty close to $5 million in construction costs plus engineering that we say that that last improvement pretty much completes the upgrade of all the transmission and distribution system of the water system since 88. So it's in pretty good shape. Thanks, next. Some of the priorities EFUD is working on that we have a tenants line from Blush Hill Reservoir that we'd like to replace. We're working on restructuring the water rates so that everyone is built on the same basis, business and residential units and things. Some of the state rules have changed that got water consumption and things at different levels. We're hoping to change the ownership of the pipes and hybrids and the guts for a more sound system. We thought that was going to be more of a project before but it looks like it's pretty simple with them doing it. We need to work on multiple use regulations for the watershed, the hikers and the bikers and things up in the watershed to protect. And we're also looking at options to install a transmission line from Howard Avenue to the development in the area of Cabot, Annex, the East Wind, Mobile Home Park and a new Ivy computer building over on wood 100 to give them fire protection and then a water supply. The estimated cost keeps going up to things today I think where they thought it was around $2 million now. This is showing where that is that it's a potential leading to waterline from Howard Avenue that are going out to the area of East Wind Mobile Home Park where there's all the development of the stores. We've talked to people they're interested in kind of connecting up if we get the water out there but it is an extensive expansion and it's not something we would have the current users shouldn't pay to extend the waterline to these. So we were hoping they'd be through the grants and things with the uncle money and stuff that there could be helped. We've applied a couple of times potential grants. I think so we're hoping to come up with some money to do that. The Water Ready Village and E-Fund residents I think hold those 18 night officials and engineers for their good design and this system for the water system and the sources today. The manager Bill Shubluck and former public works for the Alex Dusty, Tom Nesbitt, Bill Woodruff and the other elected officials for their efforts and decisions and upgrading the current system. I think this water system is an unnoticed gem of the library that's so important to our future. I think it's one of the best water systems in the state due to its location and the protection of the sources and the generators and the ability to operate in emergencies. I think it's gonna serve many generations to follow us. And I'm pleased to have an opportunity to serve my community. Thank Bill, Woody for always helping collecting facts and pictures to put this together. I hope to use it in other times to share information about the Water Ready Water System. Next. And over the years, I've served a number of times with commissioners, Bob O'Brien, Chuck Badness, Bob Finucke, Ed Steele was a commissioner for short while, Mark Alvagany and Sydney Parks. But I'd like to dedicate this presentation to the memory of Bob O'Brien. I don't know how many of you knew him but he truly loved the Waterbury and was proud of serving his community. He died in his sleep in April, 1995. And Bill and I have talked a number of times about his, he told everything as it was and was a bashful. And people complained about our water range. He said, tell him to don't go away. We heard that many times. And Bob was the first recipient of the Wallace Award posthumously that he was, he sort of recruited me to be a Water Commissioner too. I think we, I owe him a gratitude for his work. I think, he was an 88, a Water Commissioner so it's about seven years or so. Thank you for listening and I appreciate when you turn on the faucet next time where it all comes from, the effort that's been put in to keep the system what it is today. I'll do the sewer system at another time but it's not anywhere near as exciting or as interesting as the water system. It's the other end of the pipe. It depends on where you're at. It depends on where you're at. It's on the tannin scale. You're right into the sewer system right now. You guys have to let us know what the running time and then we'll discuss a little bit more. He project would have been exciting about the sewer system as I am a Water Commissioner. One can't go without the other, right? They do though. They do. The sewer system is not connected to the water system. Simon. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're so funny. Great. I'm going to let it happen. You should decide that or just go. Yeah. On that note, there are no pressing questions about the water presentation. Take a motion to adjourn.