 The first item on the agenda is the agenda so motion to adopt the agenda. I move to adopt the agenda but I have a proposed amendment to the agenda. All right. Commissioner George, what's your amendment to the agenda? I noticed that the letter of reappointment that was included in the board packet did not match the letter of reappointment that was circulated by you, Commissioner Keough on Friday. So I want to clarify that when we get to item 5.03 that it would be consideration of the version that was circulated by email and not the version that is included in the packet. So your proposed amendment is item 5.03. The amendment there is to the content of the letter that your proposed amendment. Correct. It would not be the memo that was included in the board packet. And so I don't know what the proper protocol is for that. Well, the proper protocol is to amend the agenda to include that item that the letter item as you proposed in lieu of the one that was presented as an amendment to the agenda. Okay. Then that would be what I move. Yes. Is that clear to everyone? Yes. Okay. Then is your vote is to approve the agenda as amended? Tim? Yes. I will second that. Most of it's second. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed no. We have an agenda. Next item is a public forum. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to address the commission? Just so we speak up because I can't see all of you on a page. Anyone? Anyone? Going once? Twice? I believe we have an individual who I have just permitted to talk. Hi. Good evening. Good afternoon. My name is Bryn Oakley. If I'm the counselor for Winooski, I'm sitting in for Mayor Lott this afternoon just letting you know that we have Winooski representation here. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Yes. Are you in the council, Bryn? I am, yes. Is this your first term? This is, yes. I was elected in March. Wow. So you're sort of a rookie, huh? To the council, yes. All right. Thank you again, as Jason, thank you for being here. Anyone else? Anyone else? No rookie. I can tell you she's a very committed community member and I serve with her on the board at the Grant Vermont and a very good person. Okay. Thank you. All right. Next item is the consent agenda, the minutes and then playments. Does somebody want to make a motion? I move that we take the the playments data and put it on file and the move that we approve the minutes from the last meeting and put them on file. Is there a second? Any discussion? Seeing that, all in favor signify I'm saying aye. Aye. All opposed? No. So ordered. Next item is the action items of contract with highlight airfield services for runway payment markings. I did not anticipate sharing the meeting. I do have a motion. So I will accept the motion to recommend the approval to the city council for a contract between the airport and highlight airfield services for the installation and supply of the painting, painting markings for as described in the airport memo of April 12, 2021 from Jean Richard. I'll accept that as a motion. All second. Okay. Number second. This is pretty simple. Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed? No. So ordered. The next item is a budget neutral amendment on the airport for the airport budget. I'll make a motion and ask someone ready to make it for me. Recommend approval to the city council to approve the neutral amendment as described in the airport memo of April 21, 2021 from Jean Richard. Someone want to make that motion? I will make that motion. Your second. Second. A quick discussion, Marie. That seems pretty simple. Yes. I'm happy to provide that. So what we're doing here is this is just amending several accounts that we needed. We found that we had some expenses that were coming up and we wanted to increase the budget to cover those items. There's multiple items in the capital account. There's actually various items in there. Some of it had to do with some electric lawnmowers that we were purchasing and a new paint machine. So it was multiple items in the capital account. And in the repair and maintenance, we wanted to make sure that we had enough money in there to cover the highlight contract that you just approved, as well as additional painting that we have to do. This is a safety and is required by the FAA for us to maintain a certain standard of markings on all the taxiways and the runways to make them safe for the pilots or anybody that is using those out there on the airfield. And so that is what we're doing to prepare for our keep everything safe and prepare for an upcoming inspection this summer. Good. Thank you. Any questions of Marie? Seeing and all in favor of the motion, I'm saying aye. Aye. All opposed? No. So ordered. Next item is a director of aviation reappointment memo as amended. Is there a motion to, I guess approve that, but we'll see how it goes. Yes, I will move that we adopt the memo as conveyed on the email that you sent Commissioner Keough on April 6th. There's a second to that. All second. Commissioner in second. Questions, comments? What happened? No, are you there? I lost everybody. Did someone hack my machine? We all see you, Bill, and we can hear what you're saying, so at least that part's working. Oh, we can hear you. Okay, but I can't see anything. Can you hear us? Okay, well, all right, had discussion. Someone discussed that while I hear wrong with this. I'll just take a moment to thank Gene for, you know, this is quite a year that the airport has had since the last time we've had this conversation. There's certainly has been a lot going on and I think Gene has been an excellent leader over these last 12 months and keeping the airport steady as it can be in these turbulent times. And I just, I'm really thrilled with the job that Gene and the airport staff has done. I also want to thank everyone for taking the time to allow us as commissioners to review the letter and have time to digest it and make a couple edits as opposed to in the past where we've been presented at a meeting and asked to approve it at the meeting. I think this was a positive change and so I'm thankful for that as well. I would support those comments. Gene, I think you've done a great job and I think this is a very substantial and laudatory list of things that you have addressed and moved the airport forward. So thank you for your leadership and certainly the teamwork. If I could just say one thing, the key thing that you both said is team and we would not have gotten through this year without each and every one of them working incredibly hard. It was a challenging year to work at all, as you all know, but some people worked from home and worked very hard. Some people came in, took the risk, worked very hard and I could not be more proud of the team and it's a privilege to be the team leader here and I just feel very fortunate to be able to work with such a talented group of people and that is the real true purpose of the progress that we've made this year is because of the team, also the commission, also downtown. We're very fortunate. Our community, our state has made many good moves and I'm glad I can tell you that I have two shots, two vaccinations and I can't tell you how great that feels so I know we may have a booster coming but I am expecting that life will return and that we'll all be in a different place very soon but I want to give all my thanks to the team. Truly it's been a pleasure to work with them this year. Bill? Sorry I was trying to manage some stuff in the house here but yeah I just want to offer my thanks as well to Gene and the airport crew. No matter what line of work we're in it was a challenging year but aviation has been hit incredibly hard and so I feel really fortunate that we have such an amazing team working and happy to support your reappointment Gene. I was a little confused Tim just can you just walk through what you were describing as terms of the difference between letters? Yeah there were just it wasn't it wasn't substantial there were a couple there were a couple changes in the version of the letter that Bill had circulated on Friday in comparison to the letter that was in the packet officially so I just wanted to clarify that we were adopting the letter that had been circulated amongst the commissioners and not the original draft that had come from the airport. Okay I apologize if I missed that. We need someone to probably chair for a minute I don't see Commissioner Kehoe right now. Yeah I can do that if we need to so is there any further discussion on the letter? So are we approving something other than what's in the packet? Tim? Yes it would be it would be the version that Commissioner Kehoe circulated on Friday. If you could just give me a second to review that. Sure absolutely I don't want to rush you. That's fine. Um Tim? Yes Gene. Do we have a quorum? I think so because Jeff and Helen and I are here. Okay and you're still with us? Yes. Pardon me? You're still with us right? Oh yeah yeah I just you're right if I turn the video on I get frozen so. No no no just do that I just want to make sure you're still working with us. I am. Apologies I don't see that email is could you forward it do you have it? Uh yes it's it's on my other computer so let me just say. We can certainly go ahead with other agenda items if uh. Well generally speaking Jeff there was a small grammatical change that has been incorporated in the packet one and then a sentence was added that identified our interest and willingness to continue to work cooperatively with management on different you know all the topics it just includes our you know what I just found it I'm sorry oh Tim Tim. Okay sorry. I believe those were the only changes. Yeah I'm supportive so I'm yeah I'm ready to vote thank you. Okay all right so that so all those in favor of their reappointment memo as outlined last Friday please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay thank you again Gene and team for your service in the past year. Thank you. Uh item 6.01 is the financial package Marie are you ready to present? I sure am so hello everyone and quick highlights for what you have in your packets I'm just going to go through them at the bulletins on the financial highlights report the CARES Act um that is the first stimulus grant that we got for 8.7 million dollars we have been spending that down as of the end of January we've been reimbursed a total of 6.1 million dollars and um that is made up of funds that we use a little bit about a little under three million dollars for the well 2.2 million dollars for last year and then the rest of it we spent this year in this fiscal year for February we're going to be able to draw down under the stimulus money about $705,000 brings our helps us to cover all the expenses that we have and bring our debt coverage ratio to to a healthy within a healthy range the I also mentioned in here that there was an additional stimulus package that was approved the end of December that we recently received and we recently received that in April we actually received the grant award and that the FAA has signed it and all the parties at the airport have signed it and the city have signed it so that money is now available for us to begin using whenever we need to use it so that's that's pretty big deal that we have 2.5 under the original CARES Act and now we have another four million dollars under the additional stimulus money additionally there was a relief bill that was passed earlier this year by the federal government and it also will contain some stimulus monies for airport that we've had some some projections on what that might be but nothing is written in stone and the FAA has not actually formally told us what we're going to get but that looks like it will be a sizable amount that we will be getting additional monies that will be coming you know probably over the next few months we will be hearing so I will keep the board informed as we get that information and as we get that the updated numbers on that the debt coverage score was 1.42 as of the end of February that is taking into consideration we are able to use these stimulus monies and and cover our expenses essentially you know reimburse ourselves for expenses and that's a really good thing because our revenues obviously have been impacted by having less people fly through our year-to-date revenues for Jan through January was about 6.8 million that is before we add the monies for the CARES Act grant we added about 4.6 million in CARES Act the operating revenues just to compare giving an idea through January compared to the prior same period we had our total revenues were 8.6 million dollars lower in the first seven months of our fiscal year and this is due to less people flying a lot less people flying and you know less revenues all the way around so it gives you some perspective on on just the impact of this fiscal year which I think is always very interesting to compare and I highlight a few the largest revenues that we've seen declines in of course parking is our number one we'll say our revenues that are lower we were lower about 3.6 million or 3.6 million dollars lower rental car revenue concessions were about 1.1 million lower CFCs or $853,000 lower landing fees were $779,000 so you have all the detail and you may have questions on any of all of that the expenses year-to-date were about 8.3 million dollars for the first seven months and right now we're trending about $900,000 in our expenditures and our operating expenses compared to the same period in the prior fiscal year again we've been trying to manage what we can safely without jeopardizing anything or any repairs that need to be done or any safety issues at the airport so it's a it's it's always something we have in our mind as we go through but a lot of things are set in stone like salaries and a lot of the operational costs we don't have a lot of opportunity to lower them so some of the largest the savings that we had so far this year we spent less on repairs and maintenance we've had less things that we've had to do some of that is because we've done a lot in the past few years and we have some some things have been replaced you know may have hit their useful life and so we've had less things breaking and needing to be replaced this year we also had less use of having uh we had some savings in our de-icing materials it snowed but it didn't I guess you know we'll probably be using some today I'm certain we never get away from that but uh we overall for the year we kind of had a consolidated use where we had to use it and we didn't have to order as many of those sorts of things we also are saving in some overtime again some of that is active management and I think the team for that and some of that is just with less big snow events um have and less things breaking you have less people having to come in on overtime so it's a combination the AIP receivable was about 2.8 million dollars that is what we are owed and you know you can see from the schedule a lot of that is actually from our newest grant the TIP grant so we will be able to begin drying down on that relatively soon we're working with the FAA to the hashtag out right now um and then a variety a bunch of our grants just have like little bits of money that is uh still out there that we can go after the we do not have any money that's been drawn down on the grant anticipation note though um I'm always monitoring that if we are paying things that we know we won't get reimbursed for a while we that is what is there for and I do anticipate we will we on that and um I mentioned this last month but the airport did receive a very large grant for our terminal TIP our terminal integration project and that was a 14 and a half million dollar federal grant that's 90 percent they're covering 90 percent of that particular grant and um we had received the chris grant award which I talked about earlier that's the second stimulus package our cash is the end of march was 12.8 million dollars that is what we had in our we'll say our day to day checking account so to speak and uh we did not owe the city any money and I also mentioned and I kept it on here just to re-highlight that we were able to close on those bonds the refinance bonds we did that in march and so that I'll probably remove that note from here for next time but I just sort of left it on there because it was pretty pretty new and that is my financial report but does anybody have any questions for me Marie thanks that was great and great job as always getting us information um I guess I'm sort of interested to hear you and maybe Jean or others to talk about what you're projecting for sort of recovery and um obviously you know it can change depending on effectiveness of vaccines etc um variance but just is there a point at which you assume we'll be back to pre-pandemic um sorry even is it not even worth projecting that at this point we're not um we you know Canada as you know is about 20 percent you know 17 to 20 percent and that's not even moving right now you know they're talking about I heard on vpn today they're hitting 70 percent in July but it just seems to be a bit of a crapshoot um and then our international travel you know it looks like it's going to be well into next year you know they are in some places are just way behind so I don't see those two areas as well as business travel you know recovering um you know for at least a year so um what I think will help us is the pent up demand for people to travel you know just general vacations and people just wanting to do something I mean so I think we'll pick up a little bit there um you know I think we'll end up using you know our grants these are good for four years as I think Marie said and you know we will try not to use you know everything we have and we'll try to leverage our position we've certainly put good tools in place to make sure that we didn't have the pressure on us to have to you know spend the grants and to spend them slowly um so I think the answer to your question is I think we're probably a year away from that um and that'll be what I call a new norm and uh there just seems to just there's a lot of unknowns as you know Jeff I mean I look today at even businesses for sale in Burlington and it was a little shocking so I don't think what we had will be the same I do think there'll be more personal travel and less business and essentially more international and uh so I think the dynamics are the of it will be a little different in a year from now so um personal travel I think we'll see that uptick and business down um but saying that I think July um it looks like all of our numbers are going up and so July and August I think are going to be very very good and I think we're going to see some of our highest numbers this year in those months uh then when we go back to school I think it's going to drop down um and we'll start uh I would say heading towards whatever the new normal will be does that help or is that just a bunch of mush to you I mean that's just my god no it makes sense all right yeah I have a question just to to sort of follow up so or to clarify so when you talk about international travel that's really the Canadian travel no it isn't it's something additional it's people leaving not from Canada and leaving you know from Burlington and going internationally and so there's you know there's those people you know it's like not everybody you know goes to Canada to travel you know some people leave from Burlington and those people that leave from Burlington aren't going to probably be leaving from Burlington it'll be a very small number uh the rest of the year is what I'm assuming okay and then just in light you mean we certainly had some really good new news with the um added travel to Boston and then the direct flight um to Texas and I'm I'm just curious given you know you're guessing really your prediction of you know it's going to take a year to really get this going again what do you think prompted um those two airlines to kind of take that step now before things really are seem to be reflective of greater pent-up demand and and follow through we were part of a program with American Airlines where they did that I think at 50 other airports so what they did is they spread that type of uh like it's the one day a week Dallas they did it um many other airports and so uh we're an experiment so what they're doing is airports that you know Dallas's um Burlington's we do about 17,000 people in 2019 went to Dallas from Burlington and so that's a pretty that's like our number 16th best market so they're experimenting with it to see what's in it um and so that right there is a you know seasonal experiment so um but it could pan out really well for us and uh it really has to do with you know how well it does and uh it's either going to die or uh it may have a new life and it may go to daily service uh when it's done or a year from now uh Boston I think that's like a no-brainer you know why they did it um it fits with Boutique really well I think they have the aircraft that they're using at other airports in upstate New York and this is a way to make it more efficient uh to burn you know to keep it flying all day um you know we have asked uh I met with them not to be greedy with them or anything but immediately you know once they announced that I asked them for morning exits and evenings uh returns from Boston I said that will work best for anybody both vacationers and uh business folks I said the lunch thing's nice but it doesn't really uh fit you know a typical vermoner you would go down to either make a connection which is really nice because they're connected both American and United um but and they're in the same terminal uh but the uh you probably are not going to want to do that midday and uh so we're working on that with them right now and if we can pull that off we'll probably get you know leave in the morning um you can return at lunch and leave after right after lunch and then come back at night so I'm going to push really hard for that and I think that will make that a very successful market good news is there they sold 100 and I don't know 50 seats and the first nine days or eight days or something from announcement so they said they typically do a couple a day and they're very happy with those numbers and uh we will be doing our um inaugural flight uh the 29th Shelby and um so you're all welcome to come to the ribbon cutting of that if you'd like thank you does that answer your question yes it does thank you there's a win uh I had one question which is sort of piggybacks on on Jeff's original question which is I know that the start of the new fiscal year is coming up for the city so where where are we at in terms of crafting a budget for for fiscal 22 Marie you're all done right just about yeah um we're really close to wrapping it up and the the budget and it's it's it's a good time where we've had you know a lot of experience I shouldn't say it's not great with COVID and trying to project out I mean Jeff your question gets right to the heart right what do you project for revenues and all sorts of those things but um it's it's we're just about done with the budget and putting it together we'll submit it downtown they typically will have budget meetings downtown the end I don't know what they're doing this year I'm going to assume it's the end of May or you know around there that they'll I don't think they've announced it yet but they'll have a series of budget meetings where departments will probably have some opportunity to present last year they they skipped a lot of that because of COVID so perhaps by as soon as next month you may see your first draft of next year's budget we are going to we're very fortunate in that we've gotten these additional grants and we know an additional one is coming and we also have a reprieve of the debt service for next year so that is going to be very helpful in terms of it's making a huge impact on balancing that budget which is was was quite the challenge uh that we had last year the team we spent a tremendous amount of time I spent a tremendous amount of time uh with with Jean and with Shelby and with Nick trying to develop our budget like over and over and over we went back over through that thing because it was just it was changing pretty much uh you know daily trying to figure out what those right numbers were and um and and that money the grant money came in at the end of April so you know that we were told so we'll do the same thing this year you know we're we're much I feel a lot more confident this year as we project out into next year um that we've got a good handle on it we also have some good supplementation from the stimulus money that will continue to help us until our revenues are able to to get back to those pre COVID levels until the implements get to where they need to go Marie yes will you check with Richard Catherine there should be four days in May that uh we're going to be doing budget and we just get when our meeting is um I think they they have the dates for us fantastic thank you Jane all right any other questions or comments on the financial package all right hearing done we'll move on to 6.02 construction update Larry what do you have for us right um as you know in your package I submitted the update for you um construction started on uh the remain overnight apron phase seven dash one we received the partial grant that we bid last year to to get that going so we'll get seven dash one done first and with respect to maneuverability with aircraft we'll do six a which we received the grant a couple of years ago to do um that should all be done about September we prepared this week a grant for the the remaining six point five million dollars which will be submitted next week which will require both some of our entitlement in hopes there's discretionary for us so we can get the rest of the money all six and a half million to to finish that apron um although with the entitlement a million or so of it has to go to another priority project which I'll get to in a minute I provided you some pictures of the excavation going on before the sub base uh the by tunas concrete then the portland cement concrete on top of that so and you'll see the the drainage you know infrastructure that needs to get worked around in and uh realigned and stuff where we're needed um so Larry how deep does that go four feet four feet okay yeah so the actually the concrete on top uh will be 14 inches thick below that is the by tunas concrete uh which is six inches so you're going to have 20 20 full inches of of um base above the the sub base of soil or okay yep um uh cleaning on where we've scheduled everything to finish up the cleanup for taxi we go face two with all the new mark new uh we we only did one um layer of the markings last year because we knew we were just entering winter so we saved that second for this spring so we would do those along with what shall be put out for an RFP and you just approve for the rest of our marking so we have nice fresh markings this year we'll update um draft master plan has been submitted to the FAA they're they're reviewing it um the PIP project we um a few weeks ago had our sketch plan review with the south barrington drb went very very well we then immediately within two days submitted for site plan approval they make us do um preliminary plan fire by the letters just to go to site plan approval um and that was two weeks ago or so and we just received comments on that application we've got a couple of minor adjustments we have to make which we're making today and tonight and tomorrow and get that back in so we can get scheduled our hope and our goal was because of last friday was the deadline to make may 18th for the site plan review for the south barrington drb um active 50 has already issued a draft permit it's been noticed um and all other storm water um water wastewater permits are in it's just a matter of um public notice periods and review uh the new security system um is um being installed right now i would have taken pictures of this but it's just they're just pulling um wire right now so there's really not much to see um a little good news um we did receive the the draft offer for 650 thousand dollars for the the design of the inline baggage system the updated baggage system we are reviewing that right now we'd mow some errors in their contracting uh document so we went back to the project manager and she's working with her contracting uh agent uh to fix that because they were missing about 30 thousand dollars um damblin school um we're just going through this finishing up the shop drawings um we were finalized the the contract and we completed the notice on the bi americans so we're set to go as soon as school closes and we're able to do that work um down in salation pilot project uh that grant application was drafted this week i'm just working out some of the final numbers between the consultant and the i fe consultant so we um we have a little discrepancy there but we're working that out but that'll be submitted next week with our other grant applications for about 1.2 million uh dollars for that that grant application um the environmental assessment the f as this really isn't a really really big priority so they asked us to put this offer a year because we've got other priorities this this year um the storm water and u i c permit management assistance compliance assistance that you reviewed and approved a month or so ago all the contract is complete and we've moved forward with the new consultants and they're doing an awesome job um hot spot remediation project um that's out to bed uh at least it's been broken up into two phases though um because um the the um the lighting part of that's going to be bid with an alternate as the um millen overlay on uh tax away charlie which really needs it but it uh dependent on the where the buckets of money are coming from with respect to the f a a so i'm going to have to do a separate grant for the millen overlay for tax away c however they might both get issued and we'll still end up doing it with one contractor but we got to do it between between two grants but so uh the noah uh the national weather service upgrades um the bids came in um angle birth construction was the apparent low bidder however uh noah's north national weather services portion who worked with gsa government services uh with him up significantly higher than what they put away for so they are currently reviewing the alternates and stuff like that and i'm working with them to determine how we move that forward um so that's um actually gsa um called me today i called them back but i haven't heard back from them um always monitoring um we visited all three locations um or the the monitors to go in we've drafted um draft easements for the community's south brokington wanted um at the chamberland school and and wanouski at the town office and then also wilson at the town garage however we've draft the up the leases we have to uh because this is f a money we have to have a signed lease with each community for those locations so it goes in what we call an exhibit a which is our property map that the f a review so we have to get these leases in place we obviously have to have the uh city council bless the leases um so that's in progress right now well that's all i have right now unless you have any questions any questions for larry not for me all right the report thank you then we'll move on to uh 7.01 south brollington seat update how long do what do you have for us uh i don't have an update other than i you know i've checked about um the discussions pending discussion um about potential rezoning around the airport we're still trying to finish up uh their planning commission is trying to finish up our interim zoning efforts and then paul connor um just went on paternity leave so that's not going anywhere for a while but it is on my um um visual scope and memory scope so i will continue to update you on where we are with that i think it's an important um discussion that needs to be had well and in a few senses can you share what that what that rezoning effort is is encompassing well you know i don't know that's the conversation that has to happen um i think there are areas or the of land that the airport owns that um seem to be a reasonable site for or places for rezoning from um holy or only residential to um you know industry or mixed use um but i but it's i mean the challenge is you try to stay away from spot zoning so legally whatever you decide holds up well in court so i don't really know all the variables with that and that's what i think the planning commission and um the zoning and planning department need to um kind of figure out and bring to the uh city council but i think there is some interest can i add on to that helen you certainly make because you know more about it than i um so i'm also working with kevin doran um and they asked us to submit a letter which shall be put together last month and um we submitted a letter and it's basically all the land north of the dog park off in kirby road and it's the most probably the would have the least amount of issues with neighbors um and it makes the most amount of sense so that is where we requested it's also you know we've had a lot of uh interest in that area uh from other aviation use and uh it just you know we decided that we wouldn't take on all the land um that we would just take on that piece and and then go from there so that is what we've asked for tim is that area and the acres is that gene uh it's probably close to ten or ten acres it's not a big deal um but it makes it's it's between you know airport road and parkway and um the airport so it's really has very little effect on anybody and um it's uh it's just very dormant and we maintain it as you all know when you drive through the airport you know we have park light conditions and we want to make sure we're a good neighbor but at some point you know for all of our sake we've got to figure out how this land should be used moving into the future to best complement our community and you know to have wasteland is not good for anybody it's not producing its highest and best taxes for the city and certainly isn't working well um for the airport because we just have to maintain it and make it look pretty um which we're doing we are committed to doing that I would just note um you know Kevin Doran is retiring uh June 30th I guess it's the last day of June um but he has um continues to update and work with Jesse Baker um Winooski's current um uh you know manager who will be joining us um I think June 1st so there'll be a lot of overlap that has already occurred so I think I haven't had the conversation with her but I'm um guessing that um she would be amenable to that kind of uh discussion and and ultimately some changes um I can never predict the councils where they might land but I think there is certainly um uh uh I think a quorum um that would support some re reuse or changes all right thank you Helen welcome uh next up is 8.01 director's report Gene what do you have so we've gone over the new service thrilled the death about it I think it really sets us off you know for this coming out of COVID it's a lot of excitement pretty people are pretty jazzed about it um it's a win-win for us and so I think you're excited we're excited I tried to reach out to all of you to let you know and I have received tremendously back you know from the community they're just jazzed about it um the uh beta um is the beta relationship is going very very well um they're getting ready in the next couple weeks to remove the north annex of the north hangar and to start building the new one the south annex is probably half done and uh they are just doing great things we had a planning meeting Shelby and I did with them this week to um go over the other uh campus locations that they're interested in and uh you know we've had some conversations with Kevin about it as well Kevin Dorn um to keep them updated but there's some really positive great news there you know I'm sure you've all seen you know the UPS options and purchase and as well as the other uh purchase that they had of their aircraft so um really good things are happening over there and that really will be great for the airport you know to the electric aircraft it's really um it's really what our future is about and uh they've been flying every day at the airport um practicing and it's really great to watch them on the crew is just doing a great job so I'm very happy uh as you all know growth in Vermont growth in Chittenden County isn't easy so I am trying to be extremely supportive and encouraging and flexible uh with them to uh we you know have them at the airport um they have other lots of other choices throughout the United States to be that probably a lot less than being at the airport but um you know the state still has been very attractive to them and I'm going to do everything I can to uh partner with them work with them compliment them um you know to see if we can get them to stay um it would be a real win win for the airport they seem to bring you know great things to everything they do um QTA um you all know that we put together you know a new QTA over the last year and a half or so and uh of parking um folks you know the rental car folks are uh been a little challenging to work with and uh we have hired uh Joe Neil to work with us and um we uh we'll be writing them a letter in the next day or so Marie has you know run the numbers with them and they have been fickle as far as keeping their commitments so um you may you know hear or feel some you know a vibration from the letter we're going to be sending them um it's really important to me um on all our partners is that when you make an agreement you honor it and uh you know we build something for you you must um hold your under the agreement and uh I'm not really getting that I'm getting you know it's been really challenging so um without going into it any more than that um I may be reaching out to you all in the next few weeks um and letting you know the direction you may be going in we have solicited the tire aviation community you know asking how things are going and we may be uh doing what Vermonters do we may be creating our own concession for rental cars if this doesn't go in a good way it's a 25 million dollar a year business and um it's really really important that um we do not um fund it for them you know there's a lot of money in this business and they they play hardball with us a lot and uh we're gonna basically ask hold them to their agreements uh that they have made in the past we have no room um to subsidize them and if we're going to subsidize them we might as well look for an additional concessionaire uh which we will probably be putting out a new rfp within what'd you say shall be 60 days 30 days yeah before the end of the fiscal year so um yeah so that's it I don't really have a lot more details and I would be more than happy to chat with you and keep you up to snuff if you any one of you have interest in it but it's uh it's been a challenge for me over the last 12 months and uh they want something that we haven't given anybody else so um let me see I think all in all morale is better than it's been in a long time where I would say ahead of things as far as you know the condition of the operation of the team has really come together even though people are taking time off and um you know they're all working really hard and doing great things so I'm very happy uh generally the condition of the airport you heard Larry's projects which are overly impressive uh when what Larry speaks of is what we all work on every day Larry takes the lead on a lot of those but you know Nick Longo as you know is thick into the projects and uh there's just a lot of really good things happening for the community the sound program you know we're being diligent on that um I really think um you know for you know Winooski, Willison, South Browington we want to stay um we want the highest standard for that program and I had a discussion with Diane you know this morning about that who heads that up for us one of our consultants and just let her know the quality of what we expect from it um so I think everybody's working hard we're trying to give you and give the community the very best there's just a lot going on right now and um that's all I have right now any questions I wanted to let you know and everyone know that Bill is on FaceTime with me so he can hear you he just wanted me to make sure everyone knew okay and um one other thing I did meet with a due construction about the hotel it's probably not likely that's going to start this year just like the reporter gave you on the numbers they're going to wait for those numbers and for our community the hotels to you know to firm up in our community before they build another and that makes really good sense to me the last thing we would want is to have a hotel that is not full and isn't going to be successful so we're going to let those numbers they said probably a year from now we would be breaking ground um is you know last you know discussion I had this week with them um I have met with you know skinny pancake and our other concessionaires um I did meet with uh Shelby and I met with uh Duncan Donuts they you know inquired about coming into the airport um you know we do have a Vermont reinforcing Vermont you know policy but we also um I have to have a loyalty to you know um the concessionaires we currently have there um I wouldn't want to bring another concessionaire in currently until the other ones are whole and have recovered from COVID and um typically the other concessionaires uh spent one million dollars and they're talking about bringing in some sort of cart and that could take probably 30 percent of the you know the morning business so I want to be real careful if you do talk to any of the Duncan Donuts people um I'm I want to be sensitive to what we do and that's to every concessionaire I want to make sure we're healthy before we bring in more um I certainly want to take care of the need and I've discussed that with skinny and with Hudson but uh not at the expense you know I don't want to bring others in at the expense of the ones we have um it's worked out really well for us so far and um that's it oh last thing second gentleman came in today and uh I think the the mayor met with him and uh I believe he's been in and out now and my understanding is that a very good visit great any follow-up comments or questions for Gene no sounded good keep up the good work thank you uh you know just one little question about the um the uh vehicle turnaround thing is part of the issue and I don't need you to go into the gritty details but is part of their um hard negotiating related to the challenges that COVID has presented for that whole industry or or are they just really trying to squeeze out every dime a little bit of both uh okay you know uh in all fairness you know we had Marie give them a pretty decent breakdown of everything we let them know that the steps we were taking to preserve the airport um but I just feel you know that much of what they're talking about they're being opportunist and they're trying to negotiate their current position and you know I discussed it with the mayor as well and I said I'm completely fine you know creating something new and different for Burlington um I would I love having them there it's been a really good relationship but um it's nothing that I want to fund you know we have a very good infrastructure it's in amazing shape and this is uh we're in a pretty good position to negotiate especially if we're going to carry the debt okay thank you Tim and Jeff you agree with that type of thing right I mean we don't want to you know it's uh you know want to make sure we hold our position and if we're going to carry that then we should um you know the deal should change right and it sets a dangerous precedent if you're starting to deal with different tenants of the airport in in different ways it's you know consistency is going to be important in that regard thank you oh I totally support that as well and I I think you're a good negotiator it appears Jean so I'm comfortable with you working this out or finding a another solution some days but uh this has been a challenging one we have uh Shelby has put a lot of effort into it and Marie and um you know they've really uh they pushed really hard and this week I uh it was too much and you know I just called Jill and Eileen I said I'm done and I said go ahead and say the letter and that's just how I feel I think sometimes you have to be strong enough to stand up and sometimes you have to be prepared to leave the room and what I know about this team and Burlington is this is an opportunity if they decide not to come back to the table and that is it all right thank you Jane next up is item nine uh commissioner rams we actually have one specific item which is 9.01 sound data um I noticed that in the packet that was sent out it's actually said document to be added March 15 so I'm not not sure if we're going to be receiving something or if that's going to be presented uh during this meeting is there something specific on the sound data hi there I will uh share my screen with you we have a list that uh Bill had asked for at the last meeting um I will share one moment so uh we did another sampling on the second from our website that had all of the um submissions we had about um 15 new submissions but uh again largely in the new north end in the old north end area so I'll switch to this next screen when you see this here um this is a list of that we added to our ongoing submissions it's a list of unique addresses so this is what Bill I think had in mind uh about you just wanted to know um how many people from what area or what unique address were were uh repeat callers so the ones that I've uh highlighted in red uh the one was from the new north end we had 38 callers another one oh sorry we're still seeing the map and we're not seeing the spreadsheet all right can you see it now yes we do thank you so I can share this with you um missionaries but uh we had four uh individual callers or I should say unique addresses so two from the new north end one at 38 one had in 104 um one from the old north end was 16 and one from south rowington with 10 so uh the rest of these are under four calls or less so um it just gives a little bit more information about um from what area people are or from what unique address we have how many calls I know what's the time period on those within what is the time period so this comes back this is this added to our master list which is from the fall um but in the last time that we've presented this I think we had 10 new call 10 new submissions okay yeah that's interesting that there are you know I think it's it's what we thought it might be the case that there might be a few people that are you know extreme repeat uh callers about noise complaints but it does show that there's a pervasive level of noise concern in our community yeah so I'm happy to share that with um you commissioners and you'd like to present it differently just let us know okay Shelby can you ask I know that this is a particular an issue of particular importance for bill can you ask him if he has anything that he wants to ask about this bill um Tim had just asked if there's anything you would like to add to this uh no I think that that should be a separate item on the agenda and not under commissioners items okay that should be a regular sounding it should be a separate item on the agenda outside of commissioners items would you like that on the consent agenda or would you know okay it's an answer the other comment the only other comment I would like to make is I was technically absent from the discussion from item 5.03 through 6.01 thank you we'll make sure Mary Ann gets that thank you can I can I just ask one question on on this data and maybe I asked it last time and I can't remember um there's another option for people to to come make complaints directly to the air guard and those calls are not reflected in these is that correct that's correct Ellen okay so to get uh to Tim's point sort of understanding where the hotspots are it looks like South Burlington has very few complainers and I am guessing that there are far more and they're um sending their noise complaints to the air guards so they aren't captured um because they're probably related to the um military aircraft aircraft noise and not the a specific commercial issue I'll be a question oh Bill had a question here question is could could be of the Monier National Guard submit a similar report to the commission I am not sure um but could we ask I can see what we are able to obtain um and your ask would be to have data as it relates to noise complaint line yeah similar to what we do all right did everyone else get that as well yes yes all right any other discussion on the on the sound data any other commissioners items for today well I would just um make a suggestion um that as a commission we often ask for reports like the um noise or um complaints and and other things and you know given how busy the staff is and everyone else I think it's easy to forget items or they just can't be addressed at the next meeting but um in a future meeting they could be um how we handle that um uh at the city council level because it happens to us as well is to really have what we call a parking lot and it's a just a list of items that either the public or commissioners have or council people have raised that um aren't ready for prime time or a discussion but we don't want to forget them and um that might be a good way to remind all of us oh yeah someone made this comment three months ago and um we should either agree to take it off the list we're not going to consider it or find an appropriate time or or um agenda item to address that sure and and Helen not not to jump the gun too much but that's actually the next item on the agenda which is something that we we just recently created called follow-up items and I think that you know that's the spot on the agenda where if there's anything that that the airport staff is looking for from a commissioner or if there's something that a commissioner is looking for airport staff to take action on that's a spot where we can we can record those things so you know in a sense it is the parking lot of of things that need to be done both by airport staff and by commissioners so for some reason I didn't have that on on the agenda so didn't mean to jump the gun that's okay it's new this is only the this is that's technically the second month it's on the agenda I think it's the first month we will be discussing it but before we move to that are there any other commissioner items okay so then so then item 10 on the agenda is follow-up items so again this is the spot where we record action items that are supposed to come out of this meeting so obviously the you know the the ask for Shelby to reach out to the Air National Guard on noise data is on there are there any other items that came up in today's meeting or in previous meetings where airport staff or commissioners are requested to take action nothing for me other than just the follow-up on the rental car issue and and Jeff what are you looking for specifically in that regard just didn't just an update as to how that's progressing exactly okay is it I don't know if Bill can hear me or Shelby if you can ask Bill if he has anything that should go in the follow-up items like to get a reorientation on the public right to know law I mentioned this before and I think it's been just following through the cracks but I think some of us ought to get some person who really knows the public right to know law and how we adhere to that if at all so that's I think that would be very informative for us and wise for us to do that because it's care it's very precarious so I'd like to see that on the follow-up item or parking lot or whatever else you want to call it noted bill we got that okay thank you all right any other follow-up items to go on the list all right so I see three I see uh Shelby to ask about the noise complaint data from the Air National Guard an update on the rental car situation as it unfolds and a reorientation on the public right to know so those will be the three items that should be on the follow-up items list uh next item up on the agenda is line 11 adjournment do I hear a motion to adjourn so moved any discussion all those in favor signify by saying hi hi all right any opposed all right there's never opposition to adjourn right sounds good thank you everyone have a great rest of your day and thanks for helping out today and thank you all for being so thank you Tim thank you thank you everyone thank you Shelby you got it talk soon