 Aloha, everyone. Welcome to Iba Hawaii. I'm your host, Maria Mera, and today our show is Sports and Solidarity, and the mental and health improvement that it requires for both athletes and patients. And who better to talk about those things that my guest today? He is Jorge Cribillés Villanueva, and he's an open water, long-distance swimmer, and he's here in Hawaii to swim the Molokai Canal. That's the distance between the island of Molokai and the island of Oahu. And he swims, he dedicates all his swims for cancer patients. Hola, muy buenas tardes y bienvenidos a Iba Hawaii. Hoy hablamos del deporte y de la solidaridad y de la superación física y mental que necesitan tanto los atletas como los pacientes para todo reto. Nuestro invitado de hoy pues es el mejor para hablar del deporte y la solidaridad. Jorge Cribillés, Jorge es un nadador de larga distancia y de aguas abiertas y está aquí en Hawaii para nadar en la distancia entre la isla de Molokai y la isla de Oahu, que es el canal de Molokai o el canal de Kaiwi. Jorge nada por los pacientes del cáncer, pero quiero que veáis un vídeo antes de que empecemos a hablar con él para que le conozcáis mejor. I want you to see a video so you can get to know him better before we start our conversation. Bueno pues este agosto cruzaré el canal de Molokai, que es aproximadamente unos 50 kilómetros, que une las islas de Molokai y Oahu. Es un reto, como sabéis yo siempre hago estos retos con un fin solidario a favor de la asociación de pacientes enfermos del cáncer dermatológico y esta vez también a favor de Cepat que auna un poco a todas estas asociaciones de pacientes oncológicos. Va a ser un reto complicado, va a ser un reto difícil por muchas circunstancias. Yo siempre lo digo cada vez que me encuentro mal, cada vez que estoy en una situación complicada, cada vez que la cabeza parece que te va a jugar una mala pasada, yo me acuerdo de ellos, me acuerdo de que están ahí apoyándome, me acuerdo sobre todo de las dificultades que tienen ellos el día a día con las quimios, con los efectos secundarios de las quimios y demás la verdad es lo que me tira para adelante, es uno de mis motores fundamentales. En este caso vamos yo estoy convencido que lo voy a hacer, yo soy una de las cosas que tengo sobre todo es que soy muy cabezón, yo entro en un punto y tengo que salir al final del crucer. Bueno pues fundamentalmente y es los primeros que tengo que dar las gracias por supuesto es a la fundación ASISA y bueno gracias a ellos estoy pudiendo hacer este sueño, estoy pudiendo llevar a cabo estos sueños y luego por supuesto también tengo que agradecer a Aial, a todos los pacientes que están ahí apoyándome continuamente y bueno si no lo digo, me van a matar en casa mi familia por supuesto. Well we are back, we are live Jorge, thank you very much for being here with us in Viva Hawaii, thank you for coming to Hawaii, muchas gracias por estar aquí, bienvenido. Cuéntame un poco, resúmenme cómo te definirías tú y lo que haces. Bueno pues muy brevemente, yo soy un nadador a mater, me gusta nadar en el mar, me gusta la larga distancia, soy poco de piscina la verdad y bueno empecé a nadar hace aproximadamente siete años y desde que empecé a nadar y a tomar contacto con el mar y las primeras travesías así largas pues decidí hacerlo por una causa solidaria ya que empecé a nadar ya te digo lo primero que hice fue el estrecho de Gibraltar y desde aquel entonces contactamos con una asociación de pacientes de cáncer ahí en España y Aial es una asociación de pacientes afectados de leucemia, mieloma y linfoma, cáncer hematológico básicamente. Yo tenía más o menos un contacto con esta asociación o por lo menos tenía vidas a través de mi trabajo y contactamos con ellos y decidimos pues... ¿Te patrocinan? No, no, ellos no me patrocinan yo lo que yo y el yo pertenezco a un club y en el Icante a Rc7 entonces todas las travesías que nosotros hacemos ya sea a nivel individual por mi parte o como club las hacemos en apoyo a esta asociación para darles una difusión a nivel mediático pues de toda la labor que ellos están haciendo de todo como ayudan los pacientes enfermos de cáncer a los familiares, es decir, toda la labor que desarrollan nosotros un poco lo que hacemos es dar ese impulso para que... Un poco las relaciones públicas y el marketing de la organización y siete años que no habías nadado antes porque de repente hace siete años te pones a nadar... Pues no había nadado nunca de manera ni profesional ni nada, además viviendo en Alicante pero es tu deporte... No, tampoco, tampoco, tampoco la había practicado como deporte nada y a raíz de una lesión de espalda el médico me dijo que bueno que me vendría muy bien practicar la natación ¿Alguna vertebra? Sí, tengo una hernia discal, tengo una protusión de una degeneración vertebral, es decir... ¿Qué necesitabas meterte en la piscina? Exacto ¿Y fue, empezaste a nadar y dijiste esto, me está gustando a mí? Exacto, fue así, además empecé a nadar y en la piscina la piscina no me gustaba y me conocía a un grupo de gente que estaba empezando a nadar en el mar y entrenarse para hacer travesías... ¿De dónde eres tú para que pudieras nadar en el mar? Yo soy de Alicante Muy bien, muy bonito Precioso, no es como jaguar, pero bueno, se parece bastante Oye, tenéis un arroz que no tiene nada que envidiarle al de los japoneses Y bueno, yo te digo empecé a conocer a un grupo de gente que se estaba iniciando también las travesías en aguas abiertas y cuando hice mi primera travesía fueron 1500 metros y al acabar, de verdad, o sea, salí del agua con una sensación y dije, esto es lo mío, o sea, me encanta, disfruté ¿Y la razón de hacerlo por los pacientes del cáncer? ¿Por qué? Pues cuando a raíz de conocer a esta gente empezamos ya un poco a entrenar más en serio y bueno, pues un día decidimos hacer algo, dar un salto desde pasar de esas travesías de 1500-2000 metros y un compañero, un amigo, propuso hacer el estrecho de Gibraltar y al final, ocho, nos juntamos y nos fuimos para allá a nosotros nos parecía aquello, una gesta, una aventura increíble Lo es y entonces pensamos, bueno, ya que va a ser algo tan importante Vamos a hacerlo Vamos a hacerlo con una causa solidaria por apoyo a una causa solidaria Pues a mí me parece que eres un héroe por hacerlo por ello pero quiero también acordarnos y dedicarle este programa a alguien más Let's see a video because we want to dedicate this program to someone else Well, this video is really beautiful Enrique Barba is a rising star of the water polo, the Spanish water polo and Carolina Benito is a reality of the Spanish streaming and to both of you, success in life is not to always win but it's to never give up Well, this video for Enrique Barba, which is a promise of the Spanish water polo and Carolina Benito, which is a reality of the Spanish swimming Both of them, in life, the success is not always winning but never giving up So let's take a break and come back with Jorge Aloha, my name is John Wahey and I actually had a small part to do with what's happening today served actually in public office but if you don't already know that here's a chance to learn more about what's happening in our state by joining me for a talk story with John Wahey every other Monday Thank you, and I look forward to your seeing us in the future Well, we're back with life and we're here with Jorge TV Yes who is attending to swim the Molokai canal pretty soon When are you planning to swim? Tomorrow So we already have a day and we have an hour? Yes, we have a day, which will be tomorrow and the time for the afternoon more or less on Saturday evening, I think I'll leave Okay, Saturday evening is in Spain, Saturday evening here is almost the night Yes, of course So you're going to have a lot of hours of swimming at night? Yes, I'm going to swim practically, well practically, no, I'll swim all night and well, what lasts the whole journey We haven't said, we haven't said, it's like 50 kilometers more or less I mean, you wait about 16-18 hours There Yes, everything is fine And nothing, I've seen that you haven't swim the Triple Corona Yes Which is the canal of La Mancha, the island of Manhattan and the island of Catalina Exactly And this is even more, right? What has been your longest journey? The longest, what I know, meters was the one of the return to the island of Manhattan which was approximately 52 kilometers And how long did you take? And there it took 9 hours, 9 hours 17 minutes, something like that What happens is that it is true that in the west part, that is, the Hudson there in Manhattan, you have a very strong current And did you catch it well? Of course, of course And it's not a time that you can say, well, that can be applied later on to another cruise, right? Have you tried to swim in the canal of Molokaya or are you going to go to Pecho Descubierto? I'm going to Pecho Descubierto, totally I've been swimming these days around here, several beaches, I was in Sandy Beach I've also been in... In Cailúa Yes, in Cailúa And this morning, precisely, I've been... More calm, right? Yes Yes, prepare yourself, because this channel has only given it to 43 people They have finished it And there are many people who even doing it with Paddleboard They have left it because of the currents There are many currents, many medusas, sharks That is, we are talking about a very important challenge Indeed, I do face it with a lot of desire, with a lot of excitement But here I am going to face an authentic adventure Are you afraid of sharks? Even if it is an absurd question No, it is not But to be afraid... Last year I already crossed with one on the channel of Santa Catalina And I can assure you that the experience is terrible Because the scare you take is terrible No, I don't think so But well, it is true that they do nothing I mean, really, there is no shark that has attacked Yes, if you don't provoke it It's very strange, it's very difficult And you also go with prepared people Not swimming, I mean You take a boat, you take an organization There is an organization, there is a whole association That is the one on the channel of Molokai That are a few of those who prepare you all the subject of permission And then I go with a boat of support and a kayak In fact, well, from Spain they come with me Two kayakers who are those who form my team Rafa and Alex Then I also take Selena Moreno, who is a swimmer Very expert in open waters That is a little the one who will organize the whole subject And Carlos Cribilles, who is my brother Oh, yes, very well Who also comes The family has to be there Yes, well, apart from the family support As you have said Well, he takes the whole subject of the boat and then photography And others How does a person like you, who is amateur Our professional and does not live from this How do you find the time to train for such a big distance? Well, here I think the key word is sacrifice Sacrifice is If you are not willing to sacrifice many things You can not do it And your family has to sacrifice themselves so well Of course I sacrifice a lot of time to spend with the family They often complain to me and they are asking me But well, they also know why I do it For the cause of what I do And then they always come with me when I do all these crosses What else do you need? Do you need a nutritionist? Do you need a psychologist? What do you need to be able to swim? A person to be able to swim that distance I understand If it is true that physical preparation is fundamental Of course And psychological preparation too That many times it is left aside When I made the channel of La Mancha I was with a professional With a psychologist, a sports coach And well, he gave me many tips He taught me many things and I came great He gave us something Well Dissociation I trust you that I am a swimmer And what I think is What am I going to put on food? It is my favorite thought What am I going to eat when I'm done? What do you think? There are many things Your thing is Well, a lot of truth I don't know I don't know Don't focus on jumping There are many times What I always try is to reach that moment In which I don't even know what I'm thinking That mantra in which You are simply enjoying swimming You are sliding You feel how you are sliding And that is That is an incredible experience But it ends Yes, yes We have many hopes In you, the Spanish That we live in Hawaii That you give us a name What is the next? I have an idea of where you are going You are going to the seven oceans That is, you stay After Hawaii After Hawaii I would stay three Indeed, I would stay The canal of Sugaru in Japan The Kuk stretch in New Zealand And the canal of the north between Glanta and Scotland Do you have any thought Some of them later? I have a candle We are there Tell me Well, I think the canal of Sugaru Has many points Yes, yes I think it has many points I would like to do Kuk, Sugaru and the canal of the north Or Sugaru, Kuk and the canal of the north Leave me the canal of the north So that everyone who can And wants to Can go To be closer Because I see through the networks That they support you a lot And that has to give you a lot of strength That is fundamental It is fundamental And especially now in these previous moments Previous hours, previous days It is fundamental to know That there are many people Supporting you, encouraging you It is incredible What is your favorite journey? Well, let's see We organize the Club Mio RC 7 We organize a tour in Alicante Which is the tour of Santa Faz Which is the rosary That is made in Santa Faz There in Alicante We have won it It is the same distance That the rosers do it How much is it? About 8 kilometers Approximately It is not compared to It is not competitive And the truth is that Already in Spain It has taken a pretty important name And we come from all over Spain How many people? Well, this last one We get to be If I remember correctly I think about 300 300 I mean It gives me the feeling That despite being Such an individual sport As it is swimming You are a very team person Or it is a little Yes, yes I always say The one who is in the water I am But In my head Is all my team Is all the people And then If you do not have a team That helps you That supports you You could not do these things Yes In the movies Would someone be taking you Like marionetas Moving your feet Perfect Let's see And you swim Without No No swimming No swimming Nothing And that is Because you like it Or because Or because you get to the level There is gold level Silver level There is silver swim Without swimming Yes What happens is that There are a series of rules In all these tests That both the seven oceans Like the triple crown And one of the rules Is that you have to swim Without swimming Okay You can only take A swimmer And a swimmer That has been approved By the FINA Some glasses And a hat You can not even take Two hats You can not put If it breaks But they can Yes They can give you another Just like the glasses You can put it But you never have Two hats Yes Well They are the rules That there are And well It's like doing A cleaner swimming More authentic You are And the water I would swim You put You need to be hydrating Continuously Of course Habitualization I usually do habitualization Every 30 minutes Approximately Here in You can rest In the kayak You can not touch You can not grab anything You can not take anything No one can take you You can do the little star Yes You can But the thing is That the currents They will take you And then Everything you have done It will cost you Exactly There the derivatives Are complicated Yes Very much For Because you need I think this is one of The characteristics That you have to have At a personal level No Of To be able to do this type of test They are very hard tests In which Indeed The head You have to have it very Very calm Very soft And above all Know what is the final goal Yes What happens if you do not finish it? I have not thought Because In my head It seems to me very good answer One of the things That I use Or that I usually do Is visualization And visualization In the arrival In the meta I see videos I like to see Well The people who have done it before The test Look at me Where they arrive Visualize the environment And see me I have put Are you hooked To the Olympics? Not much Because here I can not The truth between training Is that here I am also training And then try to relax And also enjoy A little island Yes I am not very hooked Right now I know that Our dear Mireya Mireya already has a gold She has a bronze And well Those who are still left Mireya and Belmont Yes There are great heroes There in the Olympics Impressive Tell us a little What is your dream Or are you living it? Really I'm living it I'm living it Because never I would have imagined That I could be For example Here talking to you Thank you It's true About a A cruise that I'm going to do Tomorrow in Hawaii It seems to me Something incredible Impressive Apart from just the environment You I left you flustered And I'm living a dream Honestly I'm living a dream I also tell you If I could not do it Of the seven oceans Nothing would happen I mean It is not so I do not like life in it Yes You have You have the right character For it Yes I do it because I like it And I enjoy it a lot And then on top of that I'm I think doing a good job Helping people They tell me Yes It is what they tell me And they do not know That they are the ones That help me They are coming to us I mean Unfortunately We have to leave it A lot of luck A lot of strength Everything we can You want to say something Say it very quickly Yes, very quickly To see all this Yes, thank you And The support I have From Asisa Which is my sponsor And it is the one Who is doing That this dream That I am living Can be carried out Well, go ahead We hope that the dream The Wednesday On Thursday in Spain Is a reality Our next program Is August 29th And we hope to announce That you are the number 44 Of the people Who have crossed the channel Thank you very much For following us today We need to go Jorge is swimming tomorrow And hopefully We will have We will be announcing On our next program On Monday, August 29th That he is the number 44 In a swimming Of the Molokai channel Best of luck Thank you very much For being with us Thank you very much We thank you Thank you