 Hi, I'm gonna tell you a bit of my experience in the Amazon and first we start with complexity Well, Amazon is a complex forest. It's a very complex environment made by soil and rivers and human and non-human population The Amazon is inhabited by humans for at least 10,000 years and since the past 2,000 years It developed very sophisticated societies Who were interacting with the forest and that's why we have this great biodiversity today It's a product by the interaction of human and nature in the Amazon. There were complexity Societies that spoke different languages today in Brazil. There are more than 240 indigenous people and they speak about a hundred and eighty languages It used to be a thousand languages and these different people used to interact in a different way with their environment like the Two indigenous people called the Kapoor and the Awaa who lives in the Maranhão state the Kapoor They they plant manioc and they clean a bit of the forest to plant manioc and it Then after it's abandoned It would come the Awaa there just to collect babasu coconut that would grow up That's just a simple example of different indigenous people interact with the forest and This great interaction created a biodiversity today That's the map of the Amazon how it used to look like a thousand years ago We could you could see different great societies living there I have an Indian friend and he's Shavanchi once I was there in his village They all have the same haircut and they have this village In circle and I was asking him why you have that why why why who's tired of my questions and he said We are complex like our anthropologist friend says so you're not gonna understand that I Don't understand their way of life, but I learned how to respect how to respect diversity. That's a kaipa village Those are the Shavanchi. They were participating in a ritual here. That's the Zoya That's the Ikpe in the Shingu Park. They are really different one from another That's a Baroro this was a Baroro funeral I've been in a couple years ago the the funeral takes six months It's a very complex funeral Once a long time ago 50 years ago the head of Brazil Indian agency Hong Don was about to die And one friend one Baroro friend told him come to our village You must die here because your people doesn't know how to take care of your body neither from your spirit I was in this ritual and I was in the in the hut where there were all the Baroro's living there and the spirits of Baroro and Suddenly I asked for a guy from a Baroro for my age what was going on and he said I don't know I don't really understand that I'll take more 20 years to understand this part of the ritual It's just some very important shamans like Kadagari that knows how to work with This complexity and we don't know how to work with complexity. So what we are doing the Amazon We are simplifying it So the current process in the Amazon is simplification You can see the kayak all and covered by forest and the rest is pasture We simplify the whole Biodiversal of the Amazon of the forest to just grass pasture and one single species of animal cattle in one actor of this part of the forest you can find 380 different types of trees it's much more than you have in Europe The whole Europe may have around 10. We just cut them down and put pasturing it and we think it's necessary Also logging We see a tree we see wood logging just for use and Nothing More than that There is another shaman Yanomami called David Copenawa. He really knows how to deal with medicines from the forest The trees the leaves roots and I asked him also, how do you know that? How we produce the traditional knowledge and he said simply we ask the forest We don't know how to ask the forest We tried we put soil in it and we think we are producing we may be producing but archaeologists says that today we are Producing simplifications different from the other societies that live there that produce complexity There's a very interesting phrase from a foo call that says We must free political action from our unitary paranoia and Believe that what is productive is not sedentary, but nomadic You can see the river shingu. It's a green river. We are going to build a bellow morn to them there and to produce energy so the river will be seen only as energy and Not as a water who floods this complex environment It's a cloud you and Maria. They were invited to to give a talk at that X Amazon They used to live with the forest collecting fruits and nuts They were assassinated by a farmer who wanted to put passion in The cloud you used to say that the one who knows how to live in the forest It's why it is someone wise and Maria used to say that we can live with the forest We can make money with business what we must be patient and learn with them Simplification may be necessary for our society at least but simplification kills