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Yeah, see everything sounds I feel like I feel like a child again I feel like I've just discovered sound I'm Scott Rouse my body language expert and analyst and I train law enforcement in the military in interrogation and body language And I created the number one online body language course body language tactics with Greg Hartley mark I'm Mark Bowden. I'm an expert in human behavior and body language help people all over the world to stand out win trust gain Credibility every time they communicate including some of the leaders of the G7 chase I have chase use the 20 years in US military published the number one best-selling book in behavior and persuasion Now I teach behavior persuasion and interrogation to intelligence agencies and the general public Greg I'm Greg Hartley. I'm a former army interrogator interrogation instructor resistance to interrogation instructor I've written 10 books on body language and behavior I spend most of my time on Wall Street and corporate America and I put together this course with Scott Body language tactics at body language tactics calm All right Well today we're gonna talk about Scott Peterson the panelists have spoken again and everybody wants to hear about this guy and As you guys I can't believe we haven't done this guy before this is this is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen as far as somebody trying to lie. I can see why people want to want to see this So we're gonna be looking at just seven videos and we have a special little thing at the end of this We're gonna try for the first time and that'll involve the panelists That's you and you'll be able to tell us what's gonna happen. What you think is happening in the last video We're not gonna go over that one, but we'll get more in depth with that when we get to it Greg what we're gonna say about Scott Peterson. Yeah, so Scott Peterson is a very old case, but it's pertinent again He was found guilty and given a death sentence and that has been not commuted But it is going to be retried because of some jury selection irregularities So his next hearing is the 27th of April that will be interesting to get to see him in front of the camera again Not sure when the actual trial will go, but though the sentencing piece will be retried and so he'll be hot in the news again Cool. All right. Well, let's take a look at the first video. I Think everybody sitting at home wants the answer to the same question. Did you murder your wife? No, no I just thought and I absolutely nothing to do with her disappearance and and use the word murder and yeah and that is a Possibility It's not one we're ready to accept and it creeps in my mind late at night and early in the morning and During the day all we can think about is the right resolutions to find her. Well, okay, Jace, what do you got? Think before I get into it the most important thing that came out of this case was called the Lacy and Connor law or unborn victims of violence act that charges a criminal with injuring an unborn child in acts of violence And I think throughout the video what you're going to see is some very slow I blink speed which I I refer to as shutter speed not how often but how fast the lid closes and opens I Think there's some Valium or some Xanax Going on here for sure Which is like a dollar general trial consultant was probably hired for something like this and And So I've watched this video differently than I've ever watched any before Partly because I was in the car So I listened to audio first So I just processed the audio first separately from everything and Separated audio and visual here. So that's how I'll give it to you So on the audio section we have fading facts Scott's famous for coining this I think Or he's like, no, no, there's a non-contracted denial Which just means instead of I didn't or don't it's I did not or do not like I did not have Sexual relations with that woman is a non-contracted denial and He had nothing to do with her disappearance and you see his head move forward eyebrows up when he says disappearance He's just kind of forcing you to accept the disappearance part of this and I Think When he says murder is a possibility. I think that's he's being truthful because That is a possibility and he is he is actually thinking about it. He won't mention her name. This is something It's very common in in guilty people. I'm failing to mention the victim's name and He says the right resolutions to find her Resolution is not at all what's needed If someone's missing a resolution is meaningless and doesn't really do anything here For visual, there's an immediate retreat to internal dialogue You'll see his eyes go down in this direction Immediately and you'll see that's his habitual deceptive behavior for him. It's different from his normal place that he goes There's a postural tilt There's eye blocking on his denial and there's a lack of pronouns. I won't tackle the rest of these but I Think it's interesting when he says absolutely nothing to do with it. You see a little Single-shoulder shrug goes up which means Suggests or denotes as Scott would say that the person Sometimes most of the time will lack confidence in what they're saying and Scott. I'll pass it up to you I still suggest denotes indicates from Joe Navarro He says he says that all the time so I just jumps out from that So a lot of ways this this is very similar in the beginning anyway to Chris Watts the guy we did last time and you can I could almost take the very my very first Notes on that one and exchange them for this one because we're seeing a lot of the very same things and in this one that we that we saw there One of the things that we saw in Chris Watts as well as here is that really really strong eye contact He has with her and that's why Greg and I and our Thing the true crime workshop, of course We teach the thing about called strip and there's a thing in there called romance or there's a stancer transfer romance or insulator And then prancer so but this is romance or and the romance is the person who looks at you They're like really yet They're really helpful and they just like stare at you But this guy is doing two things with his romance or because when they look at you like that They want to make sure that you feel okay with them being that close to you and watching every move you make Because what they're doing at this point is making sure you believe them And we talk about that all the time as well where someone that is blink rates really though because he's just firing off a bunch of bull And hoping she'll believe it. So that's why he keeps that's why his eyes are locked on it like that his eyebrows rubs Luppas and what you know, hey, believe that believe that don't you have right right am I right that kind of thing And then again, I chase is right. It's fading facts everything. This is I've never heard anybody Talk this quietly and they're being asked about if they murdered somebody, you don't go no No, what me I didn't do it. I know what you're talking about get me out of here Where's my life? You're gonna be flipping out at that point. There's no not gonna be a common here So I think chase your right as well there's probably some some something you help them calm him down in this but That's still it's not helping his case because it makes it look unnatural that sounds unnatural And during that and when he says possibility That's when we're seeing that head nod and that little that little shrug in there and again we here I believe it's the one we hear absolutely if I remember correctly says absolutely in here as well and for them such an emotional supposed supposed to be an emotionally Taxing Interaction here talking about your wife. You don't know where she is yet. Is she dead or not? He didn't look too worried to me about it. I've never seen anybody smile that big O.J. Simpson does a good job of it on one of his things but I've never seen somebody smile that big and answering the same question where 15 seconds ago 10 seconds ago was you know, did you kill your wife? Did you murder your wife and then have a smile come up in there that big creepy factor 10 on this one? Mark, what do you got? Yeah, so I've never come across this guy Scott Peterson before every time I say I haven't seen these people You know panelists go where have you been? I've been all over the place, but mainly not watching television I think or certainly not watching the same television that you've been watching not that that's a problem keep on watching that TV It's fantastic, but you know, I've lived in different places not necessarily ever in the US for any length of time And so and so just haven't seen what you've been seeing so I approach this very very fresh Not that any baseline all I'm doing is going What do I see in this moment when we've got somebody who's asked a question about you know Did you murder your wife? I see a lot of eye blocks too many to count in fact, so I stopped because so lots of eye blocking Lots of requests for approval Around this as well even before kind of the questions are so he knows he knows what's coming and he's kind of going Okay, bring this one on we'll see that gesture later on as well Absolutely fading facts. It's not it. It's just not Dot-dot-dot-dot-dot-dot doesn't really finish that it just Peters out I agree could be some some drugs involved there. It is quite lethargic However, it's about as energized as he gets in this because we'll see even the energy decline over this even more Could be other factors involved could be the drugs kicking in even more if that's the case that smile It's not usual for this kind of situation. I would say now again Is this a smile around you know drugs? Is this a smile around something else not quite knowing how to match What what what performance to give what emotions should be there to match this situation The biggest piece for me in this is we are Ready to accept and all we can think about like Who else is involved in what we're talking about you we're talking about did you killer? We don't need to bring in other people Well, you probably do if you want to now get a bit of social acceptance You want to say hey, it's not just me. There's a whole bunch of us. There's a whole bunch of this There's a whole bunch of us. They can't think I did it because I'm part of a group So so it's that bringing in the kind of gang identity now You might have some better ideas, you know as to what you think he's saying by way You've probably seen stuff that I haven't seen that's that's great So if you've got other ideas as to why he's saying we stick them in down in below But for me, it's kind of odd that he's bringing other people into this Greg, what do you got? Yeah, so Mark We're gonna start off with it where you ended we we is blame-sharing when somebody does something and they shift pronouns and You talk about it all the time chase with team pronouns. I call it blame-sharing. I hear it all the time in corporate America I I accomplished we fell short. That's blame-sharing. That's how it works. That's how people use that pronoun I've seen one other person smile this way under high duress and it was part of his baseline This is many many years ago when I was a seer instructor And there was a Navy SEAL who came through who had a smile like that and no matter how hard you were on this guy The smile would get worse. It was a baseline for that guy. This guy's gonna prove to us in just a minute It's not his baseline and so that nervous I called a guy smiling boy back then I remember and I told him if you ever get captured try your best not to do that because it's gonna be rough for you and That's because nobody believes you when you do that. This is not this guy's baseline I think we're gonna find so we'll look and see what is his baseline He starts off with what I would call a lip grip or we would call lip compression. You can see it That's containing something chase says that's containing more facts more data Most often I find it to be emotion, which is facts or data. So You see it all the time when when you see men who have been caught in a sex scandal almost all of them do this It you see it all the time go back and look for pictures of many of them Anthony wiener. Oh, yeah Yeah, well, I could list many there. There's actually a great meme that shows all these guys doing that And then a picture of a dog who does it and it says I think my dog has been involved in a sex scandal So it's funny. You know, it's just the way men do it all the time. The eye blocking is Pronounced and chase that down left. He's navigating to me. If I give you a math equation, you know I'll play this game with you a little bit Forget the math equation try to think through what you would tell us if you were captured while you're looking at us right now If you were captured and you were accused of a crime and you were trying to lie about it Think about how you would go about that lie. Just the mere fact of thinking about it It's gonna take you into internal conversation, which is down here This guy has practiced and he's smarter than than everybody around him. I think he thinks people I've read where people said he was charming It's probably that is that all that eye contact and all that Just remember he's talking to Diane Sawyer. This is not the the woman who works at the gelato place that he can charm So he's probably and we're gonna see her that she's on to him as this thing goes through He used the word murder and then his smile gets bigger Which tells me it's nervous energy as he's releasing Watch his control release style as he tries to tell the story through the whole thing and then he goes. Yeah, and He talks about we and then he flips through and says the last one is not just a fading fact It's a throwaway fact Because he didn't think of the order to say things and he says late at night early in the morning During the day and then he goes into that to find her and then he throws away a word well What? What oh to find her Well, that's a throwaway to me I would be all over him there five or six places I would climb all over him here because we talk about baseline and we talk about Like an EKG and then suddenly there's a spike He's got about four or five spikes here that I would look at and go after him pretty hard. That's what I got I Think everybody sitting at home wants the answer to the same question. Did you murder your wife? No, no, I just thought and I absolutely nothing to do with her disappearance and and use the word murder and yeah I mean that is a Possibility It's not one we're ready to accept and it creeps in my mind late at night and early in the morning and During the day all we can think about is the right resolutions to find her Well Yeah Everyone's good. Okay, it's well. It is like like listening to everybody on the radio. Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah, I like it Did you ever hit her? Did you ever injure her? No? No? Oh god, no Violence towards women and this Unapproachable it is the most disgusting Act to me and I know that Suspicion has turned me and it's It's turning me one because I'm her husband and that's a natural Thing and I've heard all the statistics on all the new shows About that beam, you know someone that a husband ex-husband a boyfriend that is statistically one who would be responsible for her disappearance and And I'm sorry, I forgot your question All right, Greg. What do you got? Yeah, so he starts off his respiration is up You can't miss it is his color or his his color is rising and dropping his internal conversations back There's eyes down to left then he goes no, no, oh god No, holy ground immediately jumps to something as God is my witness Those are things that every one of us interrogating we go hold on. Why is God your witness? No, no, God. No, and then he does one eye brow up in some kind of skepticism of her and it may even be contempt And then as he does this disappearance and pushes his tongue out right at the end of that And I'm not a big micro expression guy look for a micro expression of fear that flatness in his face If you pause it, you'll see a micro expression of fear and if I see it You're gonna be able to see it really easily because I don't use those very much Any eye blocks and raises his eyebrows at the same time Which is a hard one to do that has to be something going on inside your head to cause it because you don't usually do it And then I'm not gonna take everything, but I'm gonna say my notes say Rambling BS answer which is exactly what I think all this is and then he finally says I wish he would just say what he's thinking You know, I've been trying to avoid your questions so hard. I can't remember what you asked me Because he rambles forever Mark, what do you got? Yeah, thank you First of all, there's a generalization He takes it from something which is about him into violence against women generally So that's a that's a redirect I would I would suggest and then he comes to I think authority natural statistics news shows Husband ex-boyfriend although this this is focusing it on him. What he's doing is going I've really researched this like so I kind of know the way you're thinking about me And surely I wouldn't think and research this with such authority if I'd actually done this thing So he's trying to use this these authority tags here to put us off the trail I believe and ultimately he goes through such a list there that he He redirects himself to such an extent that I truly believe he forgets what the original question was I think you know based on this idea this premise at the start that that perhaps there's some You know mood-adjusting drugs involved and he is you know when you think about that He does start to sound like somebody just leaning against a bar telling the bartender the story, you know With this exactly, you know, so seven whiskers into it, you know, like I can't believe what happened in this But but all the same, you know, he's lost his own story. I believe he's redirected so much So that's what I got on that one chase. What do you got? So I just want to say that I think Killing other people is bad to me. I mean that's that's my opinion But I wouldn't need to say that because we all agree that violence is bad unless I'm trying to Force you to see me as a good person or force you to look at me a certain way And I think this is the most telling thing I've ever seen that the statistics that he's quoting here Don't say that it's the husband boyfriend fill in the blanks. Whoever that's responsible for the disappearance It's not the word disappearance It's murder. That's what the statistics say murder So what we're seeing we are witnessing his comfort level with replacing the word murder with disappearance So we're literally seeing that he's taken the word murder from the statistics and replace it with Disappearance and he's comfortable doing that here in his interview And I think that tells us quite a bit And I think this is a perfect textbook single shoulder shrug Say that three times fast. I Wish you guys could leave us audio comments in the video down here When he's responsible for her disappearance, there's a there's a perfect little shrug there and There's that micro expression after the word disappearance, which is almost a pucker and Marked as that perfect thing where he's talking about a lemon Which I think is associated with disagreement I think anytime a pucker you can say there's probably some some disagreement going on there Scott Okay, well, we're seeing again. We're seeing a lot. We're seeing a lot of the clatter bit We're revisiting the classics here In body language we're seeing we're seeing fading facts or we're hearing fading facts In other words, and I think the reason that he loses his place at when he went when she asked him The question he gets down the ends I can't write because he's so wrapped up in trying to remember what he's supposed to say I think these I agree with you mark at the same time I think what's happening is he's got he knows what these whether they've said here's the questions You can ask and you ask season nothing else. Maybe that's happened Maybe he found out what the questions were or maybe I can when you get witness prep happen You say this is probably go what gonna be what the questions are here's how you answer those He's ready, and I think that's when he's looking down. That's where he's going to recall those things is to recall His answers and he gets so far along in that and gets off trail just for a second and then loses his place They can't find his way back to it to what the question was That's why he doesn't know the questions. He's asking isn't really what he's concerned about He thinks he's answered that be already, but then he starts adding those Qualifiers on to the end of it because it's pretty big deal when you get asked questions like that So he's trying to make her believe that that He's being honest with her and then we see at what he's what's supposed to be when he starts talking about something being disgusting It's a really lame if it even is an attempt to show disgust an expression of disgust. He doesn't show it Disgust is like yeah, that's disgust, but this guy is I got a big nose So you can see this easily his his nostrils flare just a little bit and his mouth kind of comes up along the sides here But it happens wrong It doesn't it doesn't happen the right way doesn't happen the middle and start on the sides of the nose there We won't get in the technicalities of what that's called because it's boring But these little parts are here when you do that's that's part of it involves your nose So that's why I noticed it So it's it's we're not seeing a true Expression of disgust there is blinker is still really slow. He's still locking in with her With it with his with his eyes He's still looking at her and trying to make make that contact with her and what he's doing Chase you got to help me come up with a word for this because I mentioned all the time And I can't figure out anything to call it you're good at that but when as as he's going through this as he's feigning this emotional Horror that he's going through this this horrible emotional feelings going through he looks away And it he's looking away to give her permission to look at him and to observe quote-unquote his pain and What he's going through that's what he's doing there. I don't have a name for it. I'm sure at the time This is over Jay Chase will squirt one out As far as that goes I don't have a name for but that's what that's what's happening at that point I want to put it chase. What do you got? Mask display Mask display. That's a good one. I think that's pretty good But it's it's close up with eye aversion or gaze aversion. Yeah It is it is yeah, and Greg's right with that when you when you were drawing that way But the sole purpose of doing this is just to let her Observe him going through this pain. There's that so it's feigned emotional display is all it does Yeah, yeah, that's all it is. Yeah, if I trained some clients to give a moment for viewers To see them without being seen so just a move away, you know Do something somewhere else just so that you can be observed without you observing the observer It causes the observer of you to feel more confident in how they're feeling about you Because you know, you didn't notice that they were looking at that point So you can't have been putting on a mask at that point because like you were just checking something else out So they they they feel like they've seen the authentic you because you were messing about with something else There you go Do you watch movies? Actors do it all the time and I think we are conditioned by movies to think that's how people Respond to move an act and when you see a really bad movie and they don't do that And they're doing all their emotion in front of you and it looks like a really horrible mask I think that's why people instinctively think that's how people normally look even if we know it's not true Yeah, and that and that I'll go back to that that part where he talks about the violence towards women how it's disgusting for him That's if you read that that's a Twitter post Perfect and be like what do you think about violence women in violence and he would just that's what he would go like I got this I know this one. I know this one. I think that's what that is really really weird that he used the word unapproachable Yeah, well, he's got some really he's got real words in here. Yeah, he's got yeah Coming out a lot of prepared a lot of key and responses a lot of can responses are coming out of this guy If you notice the one interesting thing is fighter flight started because he's his upper lip is getting wet I love that part of the whole thing that we did not of us mentioned so Yeah, okay, it's true when he said started on the violence thing. I thought he was gonna go for violent delights and I thought it was Ramirez all over again Others gonna hashtag it was something, you know that and hashtag no violence towards women, you know something like that So did you ever hit her? Did you ever injure her? No? No? Oh my god, no Violence towards women in this Unapproachable it is the most disgusting Act to me And I know that the suspicion has turned me and it's It's turning me one because I'm her husband and that's a natural Thing and I've heard all the statistics on all the news shows About that being, you know someone that a husband ex-husband a boyfriend that is statistically one who would be responsible for her disappearance and I'm sorry, I forgot your question. Okay. We good. Yeah I'm sorry. I forgot your question. Did you ever hit her? Did you ever injure? No? No, never I was answered your question because of the suspicion that it's been turned to me and it turned to me because of the inappropriate romantic That I had with Amber Fry then Man, that's bad This is comedic. Yeah, if it weren't so sad, it would be funny Yeah, laughing at this knucklehead not with him. Trust us. Well, okay There we go. It's a gunman. Yeah, geez. I knew something was wrong All right, Greg. What do you got? Yeah, so I'm just gonna hit a couple of these because this is not a long clip He conditions everything he says he's he actually chuckles a little bit under his breath Which I find odd in the situation here and I mean, there's a lot of a lot of opportunities to make a mistake He's got all these crazy words he used and this is a control released You can tell it's control release and he's telling a story because he says I answered your question because suspicion that has been turned to me How much more passive can you get then? Hey, I'm under maybe I'm guilty Suspicion that has been turned to me. That's how many distances and chase. I know you're gonna cover the distancing piece But this is a prepared question He jumped the gun he got nervous and then my favorite is not only does he distance himself? From the affair not only does he distance himself from that? But he even conditions it by saying the inappropriate Whatever word he uses there. It's just the most Distancing crap. I've ever heard to say look I was having an affair. So of course people are looking at me That's probably what you would expect from a guy who is holding up his hand and saying look I made some guilt. This is trading guilt. He's saying look I've screwed around on my wife and That's why people are looking at me But even then he conditions his trading guilt question. This is layer after layer after layer of BS. That's the way I look at it Scott, what do you got? Yeah, and the the whole answer is He says it in the tone of a child or like it goes back and forth between being a child and talking to a child Not a child talking to a child, but it's like he's talking to her like something's wrong with her You know, he's talking to her like she doesn't like to make it really simple for her to understand again feigning that The horrible emotional experience he's supposed to be supposed to be going through and you're right He doesn't even say what this romantic thing was he just says romantic and then goes on Man, that's that's that's pretty bad. That's that's pretty bad. Some of these things in New York to see And and like we always say we're laughing because it's it's not the situation is horrible But what's happening now that we know Obviously this guy's guilty Man, it's hilarious watching him do this. It's it's it's almost tough to watch. We're gonna say great Yeah, we always say we're Switzerland. Yeah, we are Switzerland. We don't care. We're not saying he's guilty But guys what we're telling you is this would be a field day in an interrogation room with this guy's body language Every one of us would go hold on a minute Yeah, so yeah, and right right out of the gate where he says no no no again We have fading facts every time something important happens and it gets really quiet and he starts talking to itself And his mouth starts moving not very much as diction goes out the window just starts getting horrible And I can't believe she didn't call him on that and say look man You got to talk louder our sound guys over here. Give me this, you know talk louder talk louder or however You do that because that's that's that's just so lame That's yeah, the eyebrows up for approval. No, you know, I it's just These are all the classics these are all the classics and Greg you care you you covered most of it I don't know what's gonna be left for you two guys Mark, where do you got? Yeah, so this is kind of late night after dark talk show kind of yeah Kind of stuff. He's he for me. It feels like he's almost trying to use this as a Confession to a bartender It really is that I'm gonna create some kind of relationship soft relationship with the person the other side Give them give them my heartbreak. It's rather like he's rolled up to the bar He's had a bunch of whiskers and he's now gonna say, you know, this is breaking my heart It's got that kind of rhythm to it that kind of sense to it and to that extent It is kind of inappropriately romantic It is adding this gloss of Romantic heartbreak to to somewhere where it shouldn't be I mean, of course when he does say inappropriate romantic and it's just dot dot dot There isn't a word after that if it were me interviewing here That's where I want to go. I want to know What word don't you want to say there? Not not that it might reveal very much But if he doesn't want to say it and we can get him to say that word, it's gonna produce emotion It's gonna unpack emotion and if we can unpack some more emotion from him might be able to get him slightly out of control Therefore might be able to get him saying stuff that he didn't think he was gonna say So were it me as Greg was saying there, you know, I'd be in that's that's what I've got written down as that's the hot spot For me that moment where he didn't use a word That's what I want to find out about that's what I got for that chase. What do you got? So we've got fading facts Scott called it out here. He won't say relationship. We had this romantic With and fry but I want you to listen It's at the last quarter of a second at the end of this clip And you can listen again at the very end after the word fry He just mixes up a jumble of sounds To to mentally distance from that that name even and any interrogator has heard somebody in the interrogation room Where the somebody says I have no idea what happened to Susan nipha I did and and I just throw something at the end of a name. I've heard it Maybe a hundred times. I can't I can't you pointed that out on here before you pointed that out was before which one was it? You know what I think it is. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. Go ahead But you know what I think it is if you write a sentence and you edit it in Word or something like that and you go through and edit you leave junk at the end when a person's trying to edit their story And they're under high pressure what I think and I've seen this a million times in Sears school, right? Because those are people speaking English and you're talking to them and you know the story when they jumble all that up at The end it's almost always because they've been trying to edit as they speak and people are not good at that It's true. That's my opinion. He does one more thing here I think it's interesting if you Watch Anytime Princess Diana was interviewed and they start asking her personal questions her chin goes down her eyes look up and I think Alan Pease uses a picture of her in the book to describe this this behavior And he does this while he's talking about I know people think I'm guilty But you know, I've got a lot of other stuff going on that makes me innocent and We see that he doesn't do it at any other time except for right here You see the shift from normal eye contact to head down looking up and this is the innocence It's it's meant to portray innocence. Keep in mind. It's an unconscious portrayal of innocence not conscious I'm sorry. I forgot your question Did you ever hit her? Did you ever injure? never I was answered your question because the suspicion that it's been turned to me and it turned to me because of the inappropriate romantic That I had with Amber Friday Now remember this one is is about the marriage about the affair had you told anyone did you tell police? Told the police immediately when that was the first night Together though the police I spent with the police you told them about her. Yeah from December 24th on Yeah, man genius genius that's pretty bad. Okay, Mark. What do you got? yeah, so Yeah, I've never heard anything like this. So first of all, I mean what an example of fading facts There's a vocal click at the start of his His answer that thing they're usually for me that denotes there's something going on There's something not quite right even before you've started into it into this this that was the first night We were together The police I mean it just becomes an Intelligible what's going on and again back to this analogy of somebody at the bar I'm just going when's his head gonna hit the the bar smack and he's and he's out of this one I blocks as well and it's just for me. It's story soup now There's a whole bunch of converge. I can't work out what he's talking about now There's a convergence of different stories which are overlapping each other I'm not sure he knows where he is in what story and so I think we get this This what seems to me and a wince where one eye goes goes in and the other eye opens up I think it's like pain as he just goes There's a possibility of a great deal of an accuracy now because he doesn't quite know where he is He's realized he's messed it up back there and it's that moment We've all done it where you signaled that you kind of kicking yourself. You kind of going. Oh, what an idiot I am I shouldn't have said that back Oh Too late now You know, you see it in bad performers all the time where you know, if you're a performer if you're actor You have to have a very buoyant attitude to the mistakes you make because otherwise your unconscious will just be feeding the audience All the times you're messing up and getting stuff wrong and you're in the wrong place at the wrong time And you haven't said the right word and your rhyming couplet is out and all there's all kinds of things that can go wrong So you just have this attitude of well, that's past that's gone I'm never gonna kick myself around that. I'm on you're always trying to finish You're always trying to get to the end Essentially, well, we see him kick himself during that and that for me is that that I wins there Yeah, it's completely falling to bits now Terrible terrible crime, but quite funny from my and certainly his performance quite funny from my angle Greg, what do you got? Yeah, so my I'm gonna leave most of him alone. Just stop permanent and watch Dian Sawyer. This is her mother face This is the she's a scolding mother. She starts with what I call the Condemnation and disbelief look at her her disgust in the corners of her mouth She has kind of that little inverted turn up at the edge of her smile her brow is up with solid eye contact like Really? This is what you got and then his story starts to fall apart agreed I won't spend a lot of time on him The one thing I will say is this there's a cadence shift here when he's saying I told him the first night When we talk about cadence Scott calls it loping the story lobes. Well, this guy's story isn't loping it's Dragging along until he gets to something that's factual. I told him the first night Maybe he did maybe didn't I don't know but he is treating it like a fact and it's a fact He's recovered in the middle of this soup and his cadence speeds up and He raises his hands a little you just notice the other thing to pay attention to is his body is getting smaller and smaller Is this thing goes make the target smaller? Maybe I won't get hit as hard Chase what do you got? I? Think right there in the beginning Diane asks a question. Did you tell anyone about this? Anybody who's been to interrogator school? This is one of the questions We asked during the interview process at the beginning to say is this guy probably guilty Do I need to start an interrogation and make a transition and? Innocent people so let's say somebody you knew got got killed somehow God forbid You're gonna tell people You're gonna tell your mom you're gonna call your friends your parents you're gonna tell all kinds of people now Imagine that you killed that person You're not gonna run home and grab your phone and go yo Everybody guess what happened you're way less likely to go broadcasting that information out So asking that question did you talk to anybody? Did you tell somebody about this? Can be very telling I think maybe Diane got this I'm sure Diane's had some very advanced trainings in doing some of these interviews But I just want to read you the syntax of what was spoken. I'm gonna read you Scott's words Here they go told the police immediately. That was the first night. We were together the police I spent with the police from December 24th on That's the sentence. That's what we heard from If if you can make a sentence out of that You're a better writer than I am Scott All right, I totally agree Yeah, the last time I heard somebody say police this guy says police three times in seven seconds The last time I heard the word police used three times in less than seven seconds was during a breach We're kicking a door in and when you go in that's what they're hollering. Please please please So that's that you don't hear that quite often. I thought that was that was Fascinating to hear that because he keeps trying to say police to make it look like yeah I was there put that vision that picture of him with them and in her mind now at the same time We're seeing more body movements in this his illustrators are getting bigger and this is the loudest His volume has been when he's talking Because I think he's getting these he's trying to keep it under control because I don't think he was ready for that question She it's Diane. So she might have said yeah, we want all the asking these questions. That's cool I got your boo. Don't you worry? We're gonna take care of you and then when he got to that She's like zinged him with that ask him if the if he told the police about the affair and Obviously and we can couldn't find out he didn't tell him, you know, it tells later on you find out later on that He didn't tell so he's just totally just That's in fact what got him charged is his mistress said that she had told him a month before that his wife was dead Yeah Yeah, so yeah, so we're seeing more body movement Overall up to this point and he's getting louder So that's that's keeping it simple. Everybody's covered pretty much everything else. Had you told anyone? Did you tell police told the police immediately when? That was the first night Together, so the police I spent with the police you told them about her. Yeah from December 24th on All right, we good. Yeah This the umbrellas one. Yeah There was one report that a neighbor had seen you loading something into a vehicle I Haven't seen that report Did you load anything into a vehicle of anything large? Some umbrellas it's a market umbrellas those are those Yeah, the umbrellas on the stands that are Eight feet in diameter or something like that. When did you do that that morning? Chase, what do you got? this is a Unbelievable so from an audio perspective. I haven't seen that report. No one's asking if you've seen the report She didn't ask so that's an ambiguity failure to answer the question. So that's an eight already Some umbrellas with an upward tone This reminded me about a previous video We did I couldn't remember what it was where Mark was giving an example of like Let's say you played music all your life and then somebody says can you do a song about flowers and you're like no I can't do it. Oh, yeah, you know what I can do a song about flowers So he just kind of coughed this up offered it up What I wish Diane would have done here if I was coaching her One of her assistants hands her an iPad or something that can play a video and then she asks a bait question She says Scott. I Want you to think very carefully before you answer this question Is there any reason that? Someone's security camera would have a video of you here Loading something into the back of your car and that's it. We're not it's not a leading question And if it he didn't do anything wrong, he could just say no And then we kind of get him in because he doesn't know if there's a video what the video contains or what it shows So it makes the nervousness and stress of being deceptive. It multiplies that stuff and These are all incomplete sentences everywhere nonsensical statements and I want you to notice the lips closing when you see this again every statement lips shut down right away and he's saying oh, it's a 8 feet 8 feet in diameter or something like that and He's at max cognitive load here His cognitive load, which is basically how much our CPU is being used up he's maxed out and he had he Throws this umbrellas out there and then just throws in like oh that wasn't enough give her some more and then he goes marketing umbrellas and Just starts adding detail to it. This is the classic stuff you would see from a six-year-old explaining something Great, what do you got guys in my frozen? I can see you guys and I'm like, uh, I don't know what happened hang in there hang in there a second. I can do it like We're not gonna give her so Greg we're not gonna give any pudding tonight except for it's okay. Okay, I Just look like my meds were a little low there. Wow Well, you have to do that handover to me again All right, and great. What do you got? So let's call this one the too much I'm gonna go down three or four things that he does too much of number one There's too much BS in the beginning to stall the chaff and redirect when he doesn't answer the question I love that when Chase were on the same page. Did you? Somebody said this about you. Well, I hadn't heard that, you know, okay That's not what the question is the other part that I love is she's telegraphing answer. No answer. No answer No, and he doesn't pick up on that. He has too much eye contact right out of the gate way too much eye contact He's in romance or he's trying to connect with her Maybe he finds himself charming and maybe he thinks he can charm Diane Sawyer. Not a good idea not working He has too much info, you know those umbrellas that are eight feet Well, he says umbrellas and then thinks well, nobody's gonna mistake my wife in my opinion He nobody's gonna mistake my wife's body for an umbrella. So it must be a big umbrella So then he has to go larger with that and then the last piece and I'll jump off of it at this is He has too much Anticipation and appreciation because the minute she he thinks that she has bought it Then he's Quickly breaking away from it and he's ready to go and he says umbrellas boom and breaks away from it The other piece is when the last one I'll leave you with Every time we've seen him go access eye movement It's down into his left down to his suddenly down to his right when he's talking about all these details about this elevator about these these umbrellas so Too much too much too much. He's gone from one kind of slagging along not being able to finish a sentence to giving Another not finished sentence, but with too much information. That's what I got Scott okay Because I throw up So when you have when you go into to fight or flight and I think it was Joan of Arlet came up with freeze fighter flight He had a freeze to it. We see this in classic mode here. This is again revising the classics is Is a fighter flight because when she asked me that question he gives his answer he freezes He just sits there for like four seconds. Nothing happens and like a champ. She doesn't say anything She said they're letting let him heat up a little bit as he goes through that So what happens is when you hit freeze fighter flight you freeze? for example, I think the good example is if The SWAT team is going in or they're surrounding the house getting ready to reach going the door and there's the summit the window Everybody freeze everybody stops because what somebody looking at the winds go look for something moving They're probably gonna see everybody down there, but still you freeze That's the first thing you do, but you can't help but freeze when something happens because at that point That's when you make up your mind. Am I gonna have to fight somebody get to run off and gotta protect myself What's gonna happen? So we see him hit it The bit the three apps right there freeze fighter flight. We see him hit Free just right there these sides of the fight So he's he's he goes in with that really bad answer and this is almost it's like a Woody Allen movie back in the Said those 70s movies Woody Allen movies. It's hilarious. I don't I don't know else to say everything's pretty much been covered Mark, what do you got? Yeah, so freeze Flight fight faint that he's he's getting close to the faint at the end of the fourth He does he does yeah does freeze at the start Then he does do flight because you see him retreat right back before he starts giving This story you do see anger at the end So he does go for fight at the very very end. You'll see the last expression Lips tighten up and he's got into into fight at the end. You'll see actually in the next video He's now getting close to to faint and we'll hear that in his voice as well Here's what I love about this is is Diane Sawyer because she's using the Colombo method here Which which is confusion and innocence. So she's playing this character of I'm Terribly confused by what I've heard and just very innocent about my knowledge level around around this to lower status and bait him in in order to give something of an answer and he does comply because he starts just talking Nonsense around this but the first move there is lower status confusion innocence Brilliantly done. It's a great method if you ever want to use that is is don't come in with all the status Don't come in with all the knowledge come in with not knowing and being very confused about stuff And and then here's what she does she gives the question with that confusion and knowledge and then she shuts up She says nothing. Yeah now bit later on you're gonna see him get wise to that Because he gives her a signal in one of the other in one of the videos coming saying I'm not falling for that one again Not falling for that one. You're gonna have to complete I will answer a complete question, but I'm not falling for that routine anymore. So Great great from her brilliant performance. Great to see him go to anger there that that's what I got for you Excellent. There was one report that a neighbor had seen you loading something into a vehicle Did you load anything into a vehicle of anything large some umbrellas some market umbrellas Those are those um You know umbrellas on the stands that are Eight feet in diameter or something like that. When did you do that? That morning? All right. We good. Yeah. Yeah I want to go back to a couple of other questions people have I've heard so many people say Christmas Eve You have a very pregnant wife And you decide to go fishing? Mm-hmm. What did that say about the two of you? Well, we had plans that evening with mom Lacey's mom over her house Frankly Christmas preparations were done. What did you got her for Christmas? Oh a Louis Vuitton wallet But Preparations were made Her plan for the day was to prepare gingerbread cookies. My day was open to You know play golf or go fishing I chose fishing that day which was you know Choice I made and I obviously regret now, you know, I couldn't Just decide to stay home That's what happened All right, I'll go first on this one if On Christmas Eve if my wife is pregnant and I said, you know, I'm undo I'm gonna go fishing There would have been a murder and you would have seen it on the news Almost a little crappy iPhone self videos cell phone videos of my wife With a bunch of fishing poles and if whatever you got tackle box That's what would happen. So yeah, there would have been a murder that night But it wouldn't be me murdering her he answers with that. Uh-huh, then he waits then there's four seconds And she again, she just I love this woman I think she's awesome because she knows when not to say anything I know she's a pro and all that but she she does exactly what we'd wanted to do She just sits there and he doesn't blink he doesn't do anything He's like yeah, and she says what then his eyebrows go up But he's focused hard on her and then she says what is what does that say about the two of you when he's she says Yeah, I was gonna go fishing and it's okay And then so this chin starts to go down and they start to talk in that childish tone Whether he's trying to talk to a child or is or sees himself as a child is doing I can't figure out which one it is But nobody talks like that, you know, and then he says weird stuff like frankly the Christmas preparations were done So I think I don't know what he's doing at this point. I think he's just going for it. He's like, okay I'm in I'm going I'm going I can't decide if he thinks he's already busted or what at this point I can't see it on him because he's it just it's just not working. It's just nice. I think it's sliding out of control for him Chase, what do you got? If you go back into Diane Sawyer's interviews and listen to her questions a Little around half of them aren't questions at all. There's statements And these are what's called elicitation statements. So it's a statement that provokes a response Which is what this is and And you decide to go fishing then she just kind of leaves it and He can't say his wife's name Which is interesting and he corrects himself after he realizes. Oh shoot, I didn't say her name and When I think when Diane Sawyer says you have a very pregnant wife as a coach or as an interrogator I would have used her name very very vividly in that moment and I Love the preparations comment. So I'll skip over it But guilty people will tend to wish Something else happened when innocent people will be more likely to say if I hadn't had done that They would be alive today So they would they would say an if then statement guilty people are just are more prone to say I wish it didn't happen that way or I wish I hadn't have done that and when you hear people talking about regret Just like the last video regret is Me saying something that I regret doing to provide you with evidence for my innocence and She's a master at elicitation either way and I think this slimy piece of Stuff is enjoying this Immensely during this dramatic pause she asked that question and he's sitting there and he starts smiling Oh, I wanted to stab my iPad screen today. Just watch this thing But he gets excited when he when he's asked to offer up when he got her for Christmas with a smug Self-satisfied grin. I can't confirm that scientifically. That's biased. That's a biased statement But after he says Louis Vuitton wallet and you get the eye-blocking behaviors off the charts here Mark yeah, lovely So it turns out I think Scott that you can go fishing at Christmas if Preparations have already been made Just so you know just you know, okay in in in in world of Scott Peterson It's totally fine. You just have to go have preparations been made your wife will go preparations have been made Off you go off you go fishing all all fine. I don't know where you've been If you'd have only known that you could have done more more fishing on on Christmas Day or Christmas Eve. Anyway, we're the Look very different tone of voice here very different rhythm and then it's gone way way down It's even it's his lowest energy yet. He's even got some vocal fry going on Which means he's really under energizing the vocal cords there. I think it's because he's going towards Faint now. The stress is too high. We see a recovery on the Louis Vuitton wallet notice how the tempo Changes completely in the tonality changes because that's an easy one for him to answer I think it's probably very true that he did buy a Louis Vuitton wallet He's like, whoa, I can do that one like that's what I can do. There you go And he's like buoyant again and then crashes Again straight into under energized stressed Vocal fry. We're now seeing way more sheen on his face now. I think we're seeing way more anxiety playing through On this more Perspiration, I think he's heating up because his management system around this is is Overheating. Oh, and it's in this one that we get that eyebrow raise at the start, which I was talking about I think the eyebrow raise that he does at the start is he's he's on to soya now And he's like, I am not going in on this one until you complete your question She got him on the last one. She's playing the same tack with him on this of like, I just don't Understand it. I mean, it's not me. It's like other people have been saying this I'm with you, but we've got to deal with these other people I don't understand why they can't get the idea that you can't go fishing on crit I would let you go fishing on Christmas day if it were me. I don't understand it So he knows she's going somewhere with this She goes silent. He raises his eyebrow to go. Yeah, you're gonna have to give me more on this bring bring in some more Before I answer this one. So so he's under stress, but he's a little bit wise there Um Yeah, just any any any panel your panelists out there watching it is okay To go fishing on Christmas day if your wife is pregnant Just if preparations have been made already. So just check that out beforehand Who we got left? Uh Greg what you got? Yeah, so I'm going to take this in a little different direction Preparations have been made came up three times if I remember correctly So yeah, preparations have been made. It didn't always look happy when he said preparations have been made Maybe that's a sore point. I don't know, but if you bring it up three times, it means something So in my world, I'm going to punch you in the face with it. I'm going to come back at you with it That's an interrogation one-on-one. We said it three times. That must mean something and one of those times he said, but But means resistance in some capacity And when I hear but preparations have been made I'm like, let's ask Also, when he said the Louis Vuitton wallet, he did a little bit of drawing back For me now. I'm wondering is there some baggage around that was that a reason so I'll dig in. I don't know And if you look at him his posture is getting smaller. I love that. We all saw the Okay, give me what you got that brow come up because he knows he's set up I'm going to not beat this one to death. There are a whole bunch of things in here around distaste his tongue juts out When he's talking about a couple of things in here At 39 seconds in this video and if you scott go back and find it you'll find there's internal conversation And a curt mouth. I mean his lips go straight and hard something's going on in his head there That's right before preparations were made the second time if I recall correctly And then there's a thing called embedded confessions where people cannot get away from telling you the truth I think we might be seeing that this is my own assumption And I'd have to have control of the conversation to dig into this if I had just decided to stay home This would never have happened Did he choose not to go fishing? But to do something else and that led to an argument which led to I would have to dig into that one because That's an awkward set of words. Yeah, her body would still be in the house if he'd not taken the boat out That part we know is true based on what we've learned today But if I had just decided just just if I had just decided to stay home This would not have happened and you see a little bit of a smile there To me, I think there may be something there and if I were interrogating this guy I crank the heat up right there because his body is shrunken His body is not where it was in the beginning I'll also go back and go in the very beginning of this video and watch him as he's moving His head movement his eye movement his demeanor is very different than when he's in this interview That's what I expect is his baseline and we're getting something prepared Canned and this control release is coming out. So when we get down to this last piece Now crank up the heat and go after him. I think you'll get something I want to go back to a couple of other questions people have I've heard so many people say Christmas Eve You have a very pregnant wife And you decide to go fishing What did that say about the two of you? Well, um, we had plans that evening With mom lacy's mom over at her house Um, frankly Christmas preparations were done. What did you got her for Christmas? Oh a Louis Vuitton wallet But preparations were made Her plan for the day was to prepare gingerbread cookies. My day was open to Um, you know play golf or go fishing I chose fishing that day, which was you know Choice I made and I Obviously regret now, you know, I could Just decide to stay home That's what I've happened Tell me about the nursery Can't go in there That door is Closed until there's someone to put in there But it's Ready All right, Greg, what do you got? Well, I'm just so emotional. I can't share with you I mean, there's nothing here guys. I mean Guys who cry any of us who cry we're going to wipe away our tears not give you the dramatic effect This is again the thing you're talking about feigned emotional display, right? Looking at me. I'm not even going to beat that one up every person on here Could he have a motion because he feels guilty for what he did? Yeah, and maybe He mustered everything he had to come up with some tears. Maybe maybe he's really feeling guilty because he knows that Everything's tightening in on him. I'm not going to try to figure out what's in his head I'm going to say that's awfully out of place considering He's not used the name of his wife or the kid or anything else Or anything else and suddenly it's about This place not about his wife's body not about she's missing not about any of that He just feels out of place if she's just missing and it's just a few hours Okay, then why is he crying about the baby? Baby room because he knows so I'll leave it at that and I will then say mark. What do you got? Yeah, it'd be pretty easy for him to convert the stress that he's in because he's been hit and faint So it would be pretty easy for him to convert that feeling into tears And I think that's what he's trying to generate Right now. He does he manages it. He does he does get there He really is acting the role right now I would suggest of a poet and a romantic Because he's now going to show us a really big what what I call grand narrative So a big story one of these one of the you know, the big story is that everybody understands which is the idea of loss And rebirth which means hope So there is there's nothing to go in the kids room But if they're Another one was to come along then the door would open Again and what a great, you know metaphor and and reality that he plays there. He's he's trying to give us the story of out of death There comes hope and out of hope There comes something new And that's quite smart because it's it's difficult for us not to get attracted To that idea we will for sure as human beings will get wound up in that narrative Idea because it's a beautiful idea. You lose a kid But hey another one could come along and the room could be used again But until that time we will not touch it But there is hope that it could open again just great Storytelling there and what we need to understand is it is a distraction He's doing it to distract us and take us away From from the fact that he has killed the wife and the unborn child here But great distraction And watch out that for that with with people who will Suddenly go into big big stories that you'll get wound up in the the the epic drama Of them because this is an epic drama that he's spinning us now Uh chase. What do you got? I think Anybody who would say I'm not going to open it until there's someone to go in there He's either a Saying someone else his son's never going to go in there or b replacing his son's name Who's connor by the way connor was his name. He has a grave with his mother and He's using someone instead of saying connor or instead of saying my son And there's no pronouns In here at all, which is one of the most according to me one of the most highly deceptive Things you can do is to provide some long narratives that has about your experience That has no self referential or team referential pronouns in it And He fails to say a lot of this stuff But I want you to pay attention to I think the shame and guilt that you're seeing here on the chin boss And with this downward eye movement here. I think that's a real shame About something that happened But I don't I don't think it's about what he's telling you that it is And really quickly go back through all this and when he says I had nothing to do with her disappearance He already considers her disappearance to be a crime from from the first minute It's not I didn't have anything to do with it or I don't know where she is There's a massive difference between I had nothing to do with her disappearance That way the word disappearance is a crime So his statement alone assumes criminal behavior From and then the baby not coming back Yeah, and he knows the baby's not coming back Because he knows it's not coming in can't go in there And that's all I got Scott All right, this is the creepiest Most grotesque answer to a question I've ever heard that we've done so far on this because he doesn't even talk about his child like it's Like you said chases. He doesn't even name him doesn't even say it was my kid or a child until a baby anything like that He says until there's someone to be put in there or to put in there. So that's just that's That's That says everything that says everything right and it's so quiet again. The sound guy's got to be going nuts on this He's probably so mad he can hardly stand But you can hardly hear him talking and she never says to him dude. You got I can't hear you do what? Perfect time to say speak up man. I don't know what you're talking about To get to to help fire him up some but against tv and she's probably doing that for for the the tv Vibe they're trying to get but yeah, so that's the grossest thing I've ever seen on on the stuff we've done That's that's that's just that's the worst that shows no respect for his child That shows no respect for little children shows no respect for life or for What you know for his wife or his child? No respect whatsoever So that has nothing to do with body language That's all from the motionless. I always apparently lately. I'm getting one of these right just like and ran on but You know, here's here's the thing for you if you want to if you want to pull emotion up to the top Just sit with your eyes down to your right and start dwelling on things that live there It will and mark you probably have coached many people do this But if you put your head you'll look emotional by looking down into your right And if you keep your eyes there long enough You'll start to dwell on things that matter and if you pick up one negative thing It's going to boil up emotion in you it helps it gives you an ability Interrogators we have to pretend that we care sometimes and pretend we're emotional when we aren't And it's a powerful tool for it Yeah, tell me about the nursery Can't go in there that or It's closed until there's someone to put in there But it's ready Okay Well now what we're going to do is something we've never done before and we've got one more video that we're going to play You and it's we're not going to tell you about it. We're just going to show you and it's a great one too for this It's the perfect video for this So take a look at this video and then you let us know what you think about it in the comments Are you afraid police will arrest you? No, I know there is There's no basis Nothing to do with our disappearance So there's no Possible evidence or anything like that All right, well, there's that video now. We're not going to give you anything about that We want to know what you think we're going to see how much you're learning if you're actually watching this So Let us know what you think now Let's throw it around the room and see what everybody thinks where they give a lot of percentage really quickly a percentage on 1% to 100% where you're seeing Deception and where you're seeing truth greg you want to go first? Yeah No way I would believe this guy I would take him to pieces over the way he responded to these questions From rambling answers that did not answer to redirects To even possibly an embedded confession the kind of thing you don't see all the time this one Thumbs down. Don't believe him. Don't trust him. Never mind the fact. He's you know, he's been found guilty by trial Just all of this acting that he is doing that's really poor I just don't get it. So with acting mark. How about you take it next? Yeah, uh, look here's what I know to be true or I would stake a lot to be true He did buy a Louis Vuitton wallet. Okay Now stick down below if I'm wrong because maybe you know, no, no, that was a complete lie as well But I reckon it's that's probably pretty accurate. There was a Louis Vuitton wallet bought for Christmas The rest of it. I mean so much fading facts grand narratives put in there Just story soup going on as well You know from from really two to three videos in we know something Bad is happening here. So yeah poor performance Bad liar bad crime Total liar Scott, what do you got? All right, I give him a 97% End deception and then I give him that that 3% of told the truth again You're right about the Louis Vuitton wallet He did that and then I think uh, he did put something in the He did pack something away, but it wasn't those umbrellas So I'm gonna give him part of that he did put something in the car in the vehicle But it wasn't the umbrella. So I'm 97 and 3 chase. What do you got? Yep, mark. I'll see your story soup and I'll raise you a word salad Love it, which is what I thought of this whole thing And I think for that final I agree with here 97 and 3 and for that final 1% of truthful behavior I think the shame and guilt in the final video that we reviewed not the one that you guys looked at was genuine shame and guilt All right All right, well, please subscribe because we're um, as you know every week we do one of these on thursday We get around wednesdays if we get a minute quick enough go ahead and subscribe and and uh, you'll know we have something come out All right, we're good to go. Yeah, good. Good. Yeah, there's nothing I'll see you guys next time well This weekend this sunday it's hot, flying freewheeling bonejarn trucks all the way down from canada It's gonna be major matt bowden coming on in with bigfoot after that. It's chase use. What's he driving? He's driving a little squiggler. That's what he calls her Next up is greg hartley. Here comes greg now. What's he driving? The catterwaller. Yeah, he calls it the grave digger This is the bbc weld service Hey, that sounds good, man. That was good. That sounds really good. We should all do our intros like this Okay, I'm now I'm gonna be whispering She cut up my legs intro like that And now the shipping forecast. There are storms in chromaty biter rigor And for the people who listen to us for the first time we'll be like, what is this? Yeah, so so we do them that way and say that's why let's give it a go Let's give it a go for fun Well, no, all right Let's do them both ways in case it sounds stupid All right. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah, here we go I'm scott rouse. I'm a body language expert and analyst I train law enforcement the military and interrogation body language I also created the number one online body language course body language tactics with greg hartley mark bowden I'm up odin. I'm an expert in human behavior and body language I help people all over the world to stand out win trust and gain credibility Every time they communicate including some leaders of the g7 chase Hi, I'm chase use. I did 20 years in the us military And now I do interrogation training profiling influence and persuasion with intelligence agencies and the general public I'm also the number one best-selling author of the ellipsis manual on human behavior and persuasion Mr. Hartley I'm greg hartley. I'm a former army interrogator interrogation instructor Resistance to interrogation instructor written 10 books on body language and behavior And I've spent most of my time on wall street and in corporate america That's great. Greg. Thanks so much early. I like that. I'm sure the listeners do as well now today We're going to talk about scott peterson. He's a murderer