 We are continuing our discussion on the Sportsmax zone following their historic win over Australia on Sunday. Captain Craig Brathwaite hit back at former Australia fastball at Rodney Hogg for labelling the West Indies team pathetic and hopeless in the build-up to the second test. Brathwaite's response to the 72-year-old started at the Post-Mac presentation and continued at the press conference. It's never an easy thing to do on rain test matches but you know if you have guys disrespecting the West Indies and the West Indies cricket and us as players are playing you know it's hurtful you know it's hurtful so for us to come and do it it was great as they said it's you know we just won one test match so we still we mean this is a new new beginning for us and you know we know have work to do. Meanwhile cricket commentator Ian Bishop former test fastballer took to ex formerly known as Twitter calling for all hands on deck to ensure new star Shamar Joseph remains in West Indies colors and not snatched up by global T20 leagues. Here's what he said. The Guyanese pledged his dedication to the West Indies during the press conference. Essentially Bishop had suggested that there needs to be a strong effort to ensure that the players guided well and that you know he isn't too distracted by the temptations of global T20 20 leagues and as we said Joseph himself pledged at the press conference to be resilient and solid in his commitment to West Indies cricket. To play test cricket for the West Indies I'm actually live here and I'm not afraid to see this. There will be times that T20 might come around. Test cricket will be there and I will say this live. I would always be available to play for the West Indies no matter how much money it takes or come towards me. So I would always be here to play test cricket. Yeah. So there you heard it from Shamar Joseph and very very willing to put his all into West Indies cricket but only the last couple of hours we heard of a contract. He is signing with Zalmi in the Pakistan Super League one of the T20 franchises. We we referenced a short while ago and Fazeera Mohamed still with us to talk about what happened in the past 48 hours with this West Indies team and Shamar Joseph making such a big name for himself. So Fazeera what do you make of first of all Bishop's comments which he had said after the game ended and Joseph you know putting fears to rest as to where his commitment will lie. Well I'm encouraged to hear that and clearly he's someone with media savvy if you recall we mentioned in the first test match when he did that bow on getting the five wickets that he's someone who enjoys the atmosphere in the audience. That's why he put himself on the record that test match cricket comes first even if he signs up to other T20 franchise opportunities and that's encouraging to hear. But Ian is right that you don't want a situation where for reasons of being disillusioned for one thing or the other that he actually is forced to change that position I will find that very very difficult to swallow given his commitment but again so often it depends on that level of communication between players and administration but the broader issue as well and yes obviously there's going to be tremendous focus on Shamar Joseph he deserves it he deserves all the praise he deserves all the accolades but let's not forget that there are 14 other members of the squad that there were 10 other players in that 11 and for many of them they must know that even as they rejoice in this famous victory they have work to do in the batting department but those who played both test matches the best average was 34.5 so there's work to be done there. That's correct. Yes correct the person I want to dropped from the first test match who started with a half century so again these players need to recognize that when they come back home the challenge is there for them when they step into the four day format it's about showing that they are test players to score hundreds big hundreds take wickets five wickets to show us as when we were growing up and admired or test grates that you could tell from the way they carry themselves that this is a test player this is someone who plays for the West Indies to just return to the ranks of the mediocre. Yeah. First our understanding is that his Pakistan super league contract with Zalmi which is Darren Samuels team by the way would mean that he would miss some of the West Indies 48 championship the important red ball domestic game that prepares our players for test cricket. Is this a development that would bother you. It wouldn't bother me. It might have bothered me a few years ago because the world has changed lands and we have to recognize that whether we like it or not Desmond Haynes test cricket to an end because he was playing provincial cricket in South Africa and not playing domestic cricket for Barbados in 1995 and there was a human a cry to a certain level. No there's hardly a murmur because how do you tell a player to down this opportunity. How do you tell a player but put that aside. We are all compensated is not to the same level. It's not a pittance as we heard from from the CEO Johnny Grave. He made it clear that the players are not paid a pittance but it can compare with what the big nations players are earning. So I don't begrudge any player opting to sign up to a contract of that nature so long as they prioritize representing the West Indies. And in this case Shamar Joseph has made it crystal clear that his priority is test much cricket for the West Indies. Right and fast I just want to delve into what Ian Bishop said you know just outlining exactly what he said about the importance for the board the kind of government and corporate bodies to find a way to allocate funds to compensate not just Shamar Joseph but one or two other fast bowlers to keep them in the Caribbean and ensure that they're not burnout and you know that that use of the word burnout and that has happened with plenty of our cricketers previously your take. And that's a very good point with other nations that are wealthier. You would see players turned down on IPL contracts because they want to stay fresh to play for Australia or England. Of course as we know with Indian players they don't play any T20 cricket outside by IPL because again the money is there for them to be financially comfortable for them and their families. It's not the case for West Indies. And many will be saying you know these players are greedy. They are making 200,000 US or 300,000 US or in some cases maybe as much as 500,000 US which translates depending on the currency to several millions of dollars. And again you look at them and say you can't be satisfied with that. Well if you look on the global stage you can't because one your career is much shorter than someone who's working until 60-65 and two you are looking at players who may be on par with your level of performance or maybe inferior earning a lot more. So again we don't have this discussion in football so why should we have it in cricket? Interesting first. So Joseph has already signed up with the ILT20 and now we've heard of this news of the Pakistan Super League. So some amount of T20 cricket for him to play over the next couple of months. There is always the possibility at least as far as I'm concerned that he could end up in the IPL as well and there is a T20 World Cup this year. He has not before now been looked at or even would have been thought about or was thought about about playing T20 cricket for the West Indies but with the World Cup coming up this year would you look at him for that T20 setup any at all as someone who can impact a game with his pace with the new ball and pick up early wickets? I would definitely not rule him out but that's why I would have a discussion and this is the point Ricardo, Mariah and Lance. We've often heard that issue coming up and Ian quite rightly talked about the cricket West Indies, the guy in a cricket board, guy in a government, maybe corporate sponsors. Maybe this is the catalyst to finally have that proper wrong table discussion. Not the usual putting on a show wrong table discussion but all sorts of fancy rhetoric and so on. Maybe this is the time for cricket West Indies, the territorial boards, corporate sponsors. Those with a genuine interest in the World Cup West Indies cricket to say, look, let's see what can be done to provide. I think we've lost Fuzz. Yeah. Yeah, Fuzz was making an important point though Lance and Mariah as it relates to having the conversation to see how we go from here. I've heard individuals suggest that the point Ian Bishop made will not work either because they do not believe we have the resources in the region, even with the complete buying of the governments, even with the complete buy in of corporate entities that we may just not have enough to do what Ian Bishop is suggesting. But I think Fuzz is very much right. We have to have the conversation. We have to see how best we can get this done. You part of the problem, of course, is going to be the fact that West Indies, as Fuzz has pointed out so often, plays limited test cricket where West Indies finished a test tour of Australia. They play again in July. Only two tests. Only two test matches. And so, but for me, it's about work and load management. And it's about putting in place a system, especially with your fast ballers. I think your batsmen can get away with it, but and your spinners can get away with that ball. But with your fast ballers, there has to be a plan, especially those with genuine pace to protect those. I don't know how it is going to be done because it will need buying from everyone, including the players themselves. Yeah. But yeah, we have to have that conversation in a very serious way. And I'm happy that the conversation has started from a man like Ian Bishop, because just putting it out there, now we're having the discussion. I think it sometimes we may take things for granted and feel as if, you know, those in authority, those making the decisions are thinking along the same path. But I feel like sometimes we need to be that force where we act as a reminder. So this is the reminder we need to sort out these fast ballers. We're going to take a quick break and we're going to come right back. We have a lot more sports to talk about.