 rosia. SHU POSLAW BE kwa ni kha jamba 2 days bound to be a good day. Ya, it is a good day, it is a good day. Kha ribu sana 2a 2 5 4. Asante, thank you for having me. So what do you do? I am a researcher attached to a senator basically and I am a media consultant. Ya, and that involves me as a researcher involves having to find out everything that is ongoing in the nation, the country or but most importantly the county where I come from Tarakanipi. My senator is Senator Mwenda Gataya from Tarakanipi County. The first time senator but we are doing good. We are doing good. As a media consultant I basically I found that there was a very big gap between businesses or persons that would be interested to showcase themselves or their business or their agendas, anything and TV. So I fought to use my connection because I built it and in a while I built it so I felt like I can bridge that gap. Ya, so I get people to interviews, give them shows to basically that is just me. Ya, when I was asking what do you do I was thinking in my mind that when you say media research and media consultant you'd probably think it's someone seated in an office doing research in an office but then now that you're bringing the aspect that you actually give people shows tell us about that. Okay, ya, alright, I'm sorry about that. As a researcher, yes, I'm very much in the office or working, media consultancy is a part of the same thing that I do ya but basically I am a research and communications person for the senator of the Rakaniti. Diving into the media is you see there's a very huge gap between this startup businesses or a startup basically I usually basically work with the politicians and businesses ya so the fact that I can bring them closer to their audiences is ya definitely it's just a double thing. Media and research are very much separate but research is the office one ya I don't know if I'm making any sense. Yes you are. Ya, alright. You are. So in short, if we will link what you are explaining or are the saying is that on one end you'll do okay I don't know why I'm always imagining that communication people are I did communication personally. Ya, alright. So I don't know why I'm always imagining that when you're in the communication field you're hardly put power behind the same kind of work then when you come to media you're on the front line, right? Actually on the media path I am so much behind the scenes ya so you get to meet I just bring clients ya to you, to you the host. My job basically behind the media consultancy is giving clients an opportunity to showcase what they have what they want to sell to either the nation or which county just bringing them closer to their audience depending on what they have ya to bring and communication bit of it is communication bit of it is attached to the research so I am behind so many papers office, whatnot but also being a researcher and on communication I have to be so much on the field so whatever brings me closer to the scene is research and communication but media consultancy is just behind the scenes What type of clients do you deal with? My clientele is Other than the senator Actually it's just anyone it's just anyone that has anything to show ya if you have an ambition if you have a business if you have ya anything it's basically open to anyone I also support Thailand so many people are out there they want someone to bring them closer to many people are looking for opportunities to be seen and be heard ya it's just anyone for me I don't have a specific group that I say ya I want you only work with the CEOs I only want to work with the politicians behind the media consultancy thing it's everyone is welcome everyone is it's open for anyone as long as you have something to show for and to be honest I think I love I love working as a media consultant because it's just not about actually there's not much money to charge ya see it's ya you know many many times I just work with what do I see do I see something in you whatever comes ya you then we go with that mostly ya I love I love I love media consultancy thing but pretty much anyone is open to having if you give me if you communicate with me well ya you get the chance so how are you able to like save rather to tell this is genuine this one is Jason Clout how are you able to really tell the authentic client from fake ones because ya know right now I might come to you but I'm fake because I know you have probably a following one to I know you have network so I want to attach myself to you so how are you able to tell between an authentic client and a fake client I think for me basically I think for me I have that gift that we call the gift of discernment I'm sorry I have that gift of discernment it's so easy to tell when someone is it's just so easy when you have actually it's so easy because telling you can see from things they say from there you can just tell it's so easy because you have to give me a background I don't just walk with you so that you are starting up yes it's okay we also walk with startups but you have to give me a background I also do I'm a researcher so I have to do a background check is this person legit is this person a scam or what are they about what are the end goals for them because so many people in so many ways are just after the cloud so it's just basically the gift of discernment and a background check I'm a researcher so it's easy so easy for me so let me ask you have you ever found yourself rather not really found yourself but do you do branding now that you work for the signature of the Rakanizi do you do branding for him I do branding for him but yeah I do branding for him but on the higher level he does the branding for himself he is a good person when you sometimes you don't even need branding when you have the picture right in your head he is an ambitious person he hasn't figured out but I am there as an assistant you see I'm there as an assistant to the glory every person every great person has someone pushing them so my whack is just to push to push him tell him that this enthesis happening here what do you think we should do about it and he is the decision maker he is a big person he is a big person I do the branding but on the higher note he does the branding himself you see when you are a great person you don't need them to talk for you or represent you it will speak for itself and most chances most whatever he does the branding himself but I'm just there to push it do you think that politicians rather people in high for lack of a better word in high places CEOs CEOs presidents politicians name them just people in authority and actually people who have power do you think there is need for a peer branding communication consultant I really feel there is a very high need for that it's a basic need I feel like it's a basic need for them because when you have an ambition to grow you just can't say that you know I am this so I'll just stay back hold back and wait for everyone to see that you see I am good we need PR they need PR pretty much because it's a very big rank it's a very big place so PR comes in when you need to reach many many many people if he is doing for example I am talking about my boss if he needs to put on to do something for example in his county he needs PR because we need this thing to reach so many people because sometimes you just can't walk with a word of mouth from yourself PR is a basic need for them for reachability and traction for a while now there has been a notion that communication experts communication experts do the dirty work of sanitizing a politician's image I know this is a sensitive one just ask what you take on that sanitizing thing sanitizing thing the politician is a dirty dirty work we'll do I don't know how to put it let me just give an example of what Museskuria did because that was in the public what Museskuria did with NTV now you know there was someone who needed to so what you take on politicians doing the most than getting sanitized exactly but my take is sometimes politicians are human not sometimes every other time politicians are human and human is bound to era it's okay to have I am this big person if I create an image it makes me look bad and sometimes it's just human era so if you make a mistake right now and you come to figure omg I did make that mistake and you can't do that you can't do anything to clean it yourself why not I feel like having someone to I wouldn't really call it sanitizing it's just rectifying the mistakes and reminding you that it's this mistake that I have done because I am human but I can do better and I have always done there are so many things before he did whatever he did and all other politicians there are so many other good things that they do so we should not block them or lock them to thinking that when you make a mistake it's non rectifiable so I think sanitizing anyone everyone needs someone to remind people behind this person that is here is a good person are they justified to keep doing what they are doing because it's someone who it's not justified I'm not justifying it I'm just saying that human is too era so we can't keep judging other people and you told me you're a Christian so you know very well they're not allowed to judge just having someone that rectifies your mistake as long as it's a good thing because it's a good thing so I feel like if you're open to think that I made a mistake as a person and I am willing to change then yeah but it's not us the communications people that really have it's not us so them themselves the politicians or the CEOs or the CAFOs or whatever personal choice do you want if you want to be sanitized if you want to give a clean image it's up to them if they ask you sometimes they just don't want it sometimes they feel like so it's up to them it's really not up to us our job is to do our job and make an image that we are yeah let's move to digital media digital media of course now you're a researcher you know it cuts across so what do you think is the role of digital media in women empowerment oh okay I feel like digital media what I'm going to say about that is it gives a clear picture clear mind so it attracts reachability also digital when I'm like for example me being here I'm sure there's someone watching me somewhere and feeling you know this girl featured in a strength of a woman on why 254 why in the morning I feel like it builds others natchas just creates so I feel digital media is on the note for us for a strength of a woman I don't know if I answered you but rightly we're getting there we're getting there you've raced something you've raced a point that has starred I thought you look forgive my forgive my judging but you look young and being a young person this is a young people TV so being a young person and working being a young person a woman and working for let's say it's not a small person exactly I'll tell you why it's not a small person and I'll tell you that as much as we are branding them they are branding us because when it comes to working for someone like that you get the opportunity to meet other greater people you get the opportunity to meet the president who is not so yeah it's not a small person exactly so working for tell us how is the experience I'm telling you everything that has an advantage has a very high chance of having disadvantages so it's not easy when it's not easy but it's enjoyable and it's full feeling I would say as much as it's great there's also some challenges have you encountered bullying? pretty much you wanna talk about it? I really wanted this one time when I got the job this one time I went to the village so everyone nowadays my name is not even Salix no one sees me as me anymore when I go back where I call home no one sees me as me anymore everybody feels like so there's this one time I go to the village so I interacted so many people because you see now that I am in that position I have to represent the senator wherever I go so the following day I had been sent to a fundraiser I think it was a thanksgiving by the senator he was out of the country so me and my family all of us go to the church it's in Choguria coming back home we find that I don't know how they jumped the fence because it was very high we find that somebody had broken into our house and taken everything because we are in a very separate whatever what do I call it we are in anesthet that it's out of reach pretty much but we have neighbors our security was off that day so I'm telling you there's so much bullying then also there's this aspect that you are sometimes sometimes I want to encourage people to see women as women were they are not in that position because you know they are women sometimes they have brains they have what it takes I'm not here because the senator decided umstyananim anyone has more qualifications so many people have more qualifications so the fact that you would assume or think that people are in that state because they are there they have you know so there's a lot of bullying in that sexuality thing and it's not just in the village in Nairobi too you ask someone asks you so many people asking me I've been asked where do you work and then I say I'm working for the state of the Rakanipi and he's like what did you do to get I'm telling you one of the question they ask is are you related and if you're not related then you have something going on for but it's just it's just an aspect of women being bullied I would say that for myself and so many other people we got here because we are qualified to be here and because we are there to stay here yeah just whatever you just don't listen to beliefs so how do you deal with it I just don't listen I flash it out I have been here for a long time I have been a woman for a long time so I feel like at first it used to get to me it used to get to me I used to go home and just cry oh my god but then I felt like I encouraged myself I got the encouragement that whatever when I'm doing good it's a problem for someone when I'm not doing good nothing will ever make people happy about it if someone wants to be happy with you or for you they will just be happy but if so many times it's just nice it's just nice for me do you do content creation I actually do not I'm actually not so much on the forefront on the media forefront I've been here behind the scenes but I'm never that much seen when I want to appear on interviews such as this it's just once in a while I'm not that public person but I'm getting into it I get it so while you were sharing about how women are perceived you get such a job you mentioned something about you were talking about bullying and then a thought came to my mind have you experienced trolling online cyberbullying trolling online I have I have because this person this one time I made a comment actually someone commented about me and I reacted and there was all these oh my goodness there's all these trolls why not your road I'm telling you people do not people feel like so many types I don't know if people feel like I am a stone that you see when you throw me I just stand there I'll just stay still people so much throw stones and they don't expect a reaction they act and don't expect a reaction so pretty much I have sorry about the trolls but it's used to get to me it really used to get to me but right now it's just flash it off I stopped caring because now there's I realize it's not just me I react sometimes I might be reacting for myself but nowadays I have my name attached to the senator so it's not about me anymore so I just stopped I just stopped listening when I see I just assume it's someone else because now I'm carrying an identity that is not even mine I'm not even sure if I am myself I am very much myself someone else's identity so I have as much as I have to protect myself I have to protect it first because it puts food on my table yeah but also because I feel like the reason I have to protect my senator before my feelings is because there's so many people that look up to this person and there's so there's this ambition and there's this this just don't want to get him attached to my own stuff I feel like he has so much to offer the people of Tarakaniti County that is actually currently the best politician the best performing politician in the Senate so yeah yeah so that your previous comment brings me to this aspect of do you feel pressure to act a certain way to leave a certain way how do you deal with it? tell me pretty much I came on a Uber it's expected that you know you wish I've not been working for him for a long time this is my sixth month so now it's not just pressure from the people my friends or what it's pressure from even my family they expect that now you got it's more demand I feel like right now I am more pressured than I have ever been because everyone wants everyone it's just give give give it's not just that I also pressure myself because I also want to perform but yeah it's just so much so much pressure so much pressure oh my goodness I'm telling you sometimes it's hard but you have to look within you now you see someone like me it wasn't expected that right now I am getting all this group invites all of these funders are for white all of these building white what not what not and sometimes you just can't give as much as generosity is a virtue but you just can't I'm not making money enough to just be giving it out not giving it out but I'm not charity is a good it's a good purpose right now there's so much so much of give this and when you don't give them when you don't meet so many people's expectations they start to feel like oh she's bragging oh she got this and now she is this different person I want sometimes I just want to go home sometimes I feel like the day is too long I just want to go home and sleep mostly when I get home I am very unreachable nowadays because there's all these demands all these calls all these what not but we are managing it I manage it by just being silent yeah just being silent and remembering that I am myself that whatever you think it doesn't affect me yeah people's opinions so many times do not have to affect you plus I'm a very prayerful person so sometimes I feel like when I am very low I feel like I would just lean back on my bible or on praise or worship or just anything that you see there's a way there are times that you're uplifted when you're on a low spirit you're uplifted by just leaning on good yeah pretty much so having been in some prestigious platforms what would you say some of the challenges facing women in those platforms I would say bullies one bullies and then expectations so many expectations are bowed on us downed on us and also I would say so many so many inferiority complex persons try to infridge those their inferiority whatever on us so it's it's challenging it's not easy for a woman when you see a woman that is doing something for themselves I feel like pick up that person because there's so much throned on us there's so much expectations on us there's so much trashing on us that you see when a woman makes it so many of the women that have made it they have been told it's because they have dated this one or because they married to this one or because they did this no one sees the efforts of the woman because for example myself I am a parent so waking up every day preparing my children to do I have one child but also I am with my sister so preparing my kid my sister to to go to school or perhaps go to to play or what not and then also juggling being a parent and work is not easy because for a man it's easy because you have sometimes men choose not to be in the kid their children's life and it's not optional for us so it's not it's really quite a challenge being a woman and making a name for yourself or making strides for yourself or sometimes I just think it takes dedication it takes passion it takes everything every it takes good number one it takes good yeah you just need all those positivity I feel like sometimes when I am solo I sometimes as a woman when you're striving when you're thriving you realize you look ahead you see there's so many people ahead of you and then you look back and you see no one holding no one supporting you if they feel like you know so many people are okay when you're just on their level when you try to drive ahead of them or be higher than what they expect or the boundaries they set for you you find yourself alone sometimes you need someone as a woman or just not yeah you need someone to hold you but the moment they feel like you're doing something great with your life or something great for yourself sometimes you stack alone to just walk yeah sometimes you just as a woman I would encourage someone to find that person just one person doesn't have to be a man doesn't have to be a parent just one friend that you know when things get hard you can cry to them and I feel like mostly we have over what over what do you call it we have put friendship it's like something very high sometimes that person need is God mostly you have to talk to God just don't play talk to him because so many times you might have that friend you call a best friend I'm saying friends are very important in your life but you have those people that you feel like you see I am a woman now this is my best friend so I can share everything but deeply those people are happy sometimes it's with you sometimes it's just fake sometimes you just need to ask God to bring the right people to you yeah how does your normal day look like my normal day looks like I wake up I wake up I'm not going to lie to you that I pray every time but I wake up and put on some gospel music and go to the shower wake the kids up get them breakfast then go to work and then right now it's holiday so you just live on there go to work I start at the office but when we have kobiti sometimes I just go straight to the senate and if I have a client that I'm bringing on shows sometimes I wake up and make them prepare them you remember we have this and this at this time pretty much on a busy day my busiest days are when we have events in the county when we have to wake up prepare yourself to go for either a day or two when you have events in the county or any other places when you have my days are very normal but very busy sometimes on the road are you a cheetah or a totois on the road are you a cheetah or a totois okay it depends what are the aspects a cheetah you love speed a totois I feel like I am a totois you don't take a kumbisha sitaki sitaki haraka not just on the road you don't mean driving oh you mean driving alright I love the speed I love the speed you are a cheetah I love speed I thought you were talking about the aspect of life of walking I meant on the road on the road I love I feel like being a totois on the road is boring I want to explore some speed as long as it's not it's not dangerous it's safety it's safe as long as it's safe that's okay with me what would an ideal rest day look like for you if you give in tomorrow rest tomorrow rest don't come to work so what would that look like I am telling you I usually have rest days here or some of the weekends a rest day for me means go home sleep get someone to bring food I don't even go to my sitting room I just sleep I do everything from bed it's a rest day sometimes it can be hectic by the way walking sometimes can be hectic it's not just draining physically it's draining also mentally sometimes need a break to rest I don't even go out on weekends sometimes I just want to be in bed all day eat take a shower eat just be in bed so what are like 5 things you can't leave the house without as a girl as a girl an extra pair of shoes some wipes an eye pencil okay what is it olive balm 4 oh my goodness and a pad okay are you a hilt or a flat shoe person I am a hilt person what happened actually what happened today is I forgot my hilt in the house I thought I put them in my bag so I'm just going downstairs and then when the Uber comes to pick me up I'm just going to change into hilt and then when we got here I'm like oh my goodness oh my goodness so I'm a hilt person hilt anytime so I'm very uncomfortable right now it's okay it's okay now they're not seeing your feet it's okay but thank you so much for coming thank you very much for having me someone is saying to now and I'm like oh wow but thank you thank you for coming thank you for making time to talk to us sharing what you do as a woman in the county you know everything means a lot thank you that was Salix Karimi research and media consultant at Thara Karniti she works with the Thara Karniti senator at parliament and also in Thara Karniti county and she has been talking to us a lot about the impact women make in media research and the political space Val is coming back with more but before Val comes back with more nimesu kia kukuna dance challenge mahali so Val a kujetupi mani guvu nilkwa nimesu mani megonjaka but anyway that and much more is coming up now attach that down