 But we're, we're basically done with the Dragonflight quest chain. Okay, talk to Alice Jaza. Campaign complete. We did it. World quest unlocked. Adventure mode unlocked. Your future characters can do Dragon Isle Zones in any order and access world quests immediately. Aide the factions, gain renown with major factions of the Dragon Isle and purify the conflict ahead. Wow, so we did it! Sick! Nice! So we're not a little 70, but like, we can, we can just burn through the level 70 super fast now. That was super fun. But so what'd you, Bonnie, what'd you think of your first retail wow experience? I actually really did have a lot of fun. And... I think it's been surprisingly good. I legitimately, this is the first time in like 10 plus years that I've thought a current expansion's leveling has been good. Cause I was thinking back on it a little bit earlier and I'm like, damn, I don't think leveling this game has been good at all since maybe Cataclysm was okay. I mean, there's even things I don't like about like vanilla burning. Yeah, that's just the best. This is actually, you can make an argument that in a lot of ways this is the best. I think I'm gonna uninstall Classic. Well, I mean, I wouldn't say that. I feel like when it comes to leveling, I think this, I mean, you have the small wins where like you're leveling constantly. You're getting the talent points. You have a constant feeling of progression. A lot of the things that make vanilla leveling good, it's very short. It's very fast, but I don't think it's too fast. And I don't think it's too slow. Like I feel like the pacing is perfect. Like it isn't, the only, the only zone that felt kind of slow, comparatively, comparatively, excuse me. I feel like the Onuron Plains, there was a stretch of quest that felt a little slow. It wasn't the Azor Span. There was a small stretch of quest that felt kind of slow. You can't really tell if an expansion is good or not in the first week or day. Maybe in the first month, we will see. But so far, it's like you can see like the, this is like a tangible thing that we can take away. This is like a tangible visualization. The cog wheels are finally turning and Blizzard's finally starting to figure it out after so long of trying to fix their game. Is it bad if you're having fun, but you don't have enough to do it if you're playing six plus hours a day? See, that's what's funny is like for people who like want to grind, it's like, why can't grind? You know what sucks? What? Does it resale when you change your hair color? It doesn't change your hair color. Is it not? No. Wait, that's actually kind of funny. Does it not change when you change your hairstyle or your hair color in retail? Does it not change your, your, oh, you can change it separately now. What? Yes. I guess you change, you can still change it separately. I was like, that doesn't make sense. Why'd they get rid of that? I think there's a chance chat that the meta ends up being, because I'll be honest, I don't think they did a good job with Wrath of the Lich King. I think they botched Wrath of the Lich King in a few ways that was very easily avoidable, but they're just so scared to do anything. I also think Wrath of the Lich King is just straight up not as good of an expansion as people remember it being. And I've thought that for a long time. I feel like it's like going to be retail PVE and PvP and Wrath. Like the meta is going to be to PvP and Wrath and then to retail PVE. Elte, I'm telling you dude, Wrath is very overrated of an expansion. Wrath is so fun, Brom as Nax is boring. I'm not even joking. In January of this year, literally like 12 months ago, I was trying to tell people at Blizzard that you guys got to do something about phase one of Wrath, man. I was like, I promise you, I promise you, I promise you. People are going to get bored so fast. People are going to get bored so fast. And like literally exactly what I said was going to happen happened. I mean, a par for the course. I mean, everything I always say happens because I'm a genius. The truth is, it's just annoying when you say something and it's not acted upon and then you end up being right about it. I was memeing, but it hasn't happened every time, but it has happened constantly throughout all of Classic Wow. Do you have ideas for Classic Plus? I really don't know what they should do with Classic Plus. Classic Wow is probably dead in about a year unless they do a Classic Plus. I think if they do Cataclysm, it's going to bomb. I don't think Cataclysm is going to, I just don't think it's going to last. I think the only thing that works is a Classic Plus and I just don't think Blizzard's going to want to do it. What I think Blizzard should do, I think Blizzard should pull an EverQuest with Wow and essentially do what they did with Project 99 and have an officially sanctioned group of people to run Classic Private Servers and just put them in charge of it just like EverQuest did with Project 99. And you know what? You know who used to work for EverQuest? Used to work on EverQuest whenever that happened? Who? Holly Longdale. Chad. Holly Longdale used to work on EverQuest whenever they did the Project 99 deal. That's why I think whenever it comes to, whenever it comes to Classic, I think unless they want to do a Classic Plus, chances are it's going to bomb if they go Cataclysm with it. I do think that they should figure something out and do essentially what they did whenever Holly was at EverQuest, Project 99, give it to a group of people who are going to run a non-profit, not-for-profit, whatever the proper terminology is, Private Server for Classic. Rich, thank you for the raid. What's up, dude? We just finished the campaign with Bonnie. Oh my gosh. I was just, this is the most fun leveling in Retail WoW easily in the last 10 years. Probably ever. I think you can make an argument that this is the best leveling ever. I don't know if it's going to be good as an expansion as a whole, but the leveling so far has been really, really impressive. It's so obvious like the inspiration they've taken from Classic and like learning what they've learned. I was saying this, my thing with Classic has always been this. There's people that are just going to like Classic WoW better. There's going to be people that like Vanilla, that like Burning Crusader, that like Wrath better than the current version of the game, and that's totally reasonable, that's totally justified, and I'm freaking the number one proponent of that. But the truth is the number one thing that can come out of Classic WoW success is if they can learn from it and they can make Retail better, the inspiration is so clear. There's so many, there's little things dude, there's little things like seeing the guy turn into a raid boss, being able to interact with characters that you're going to fight later on, see them from a distance, like oh shit it's that guy. Thinking about Mag Theridon in Blood Furnace. In Burning Crusade, when you go into the Rampart or another Rampart, when you go into Hellfire, Hellfire Citadel, you go into the Blood Furnace and you see Mag Theridon from a distance, you see him locked down, it's like who the hell is that? Well that's a raid boss you're going to fight eventually. When you're a big boy. So it's like a little stuff like that, like you kind of like from a distance get to interact with a raid boss or something, it's like damn I want to go kill that guy. Nefarion and UBRS, phenomenal example. When you walk in and you're doing- And you allow private servers to experiment with Classic, create new classes, randomized content, etc. whatever they come up with. I really think they should pull a Project 99. But the Nefarion example is phenomenal. I remember dude, you go into UBRS, you go into the rend fight, and you're doing the gauntlet. And Nefarion is just sitting up there with his Crown of Destruction. He's got the look dude, he's just sitting there menacing. He's got his Locomere on him, sitting in the throne. Just looking down. Damn, the boss of the second raid that you don't even know is going to exist yet. Because it's not in the game. But that's the last boss. That's the leader of the Black Dragonflight. As far as you know, technically he's the son. But it's like that's the dude. Alright, let's go. Chat, we did it. Now we play the game. Dude, so we did it. We made it to level 70 with Bonnie. We are going to see Bonnie right off into the sunset. Halfway over after. Oh, ride, not run. I'm riding, okay. Bye, Bonnie. Bye. You're free. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, we're going on my very way. Wait, right off that way. You're riding off the wrong way. Okay. Here I go. Goodbye. Bye. You need to fly. Fly this way. You know, this isn't going to work. Here I go. I'm going to fly away. Bye. I'm flying, I'm flying, I'm flying, I'm flying, I'm flying. Fly this way. Why is this so hard? Okay, I'm flying, I'm flying, I'm flying, I'm flying, I'm flying. Oh, there she is. Bye. Wait, you fell. Did you fall?