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T-Rail is back in the building, man. What's going on, man? Everybody here, man. Big rail. That's just my third time. Big rail. Big rail, like it's changing. Yeah, we changing that. Big rail. Man, man, what's going on, man? I mean, you, man, your music is always on point. That's never ever been an issue. You always out working, everybody, man. What keeps you going? What keeps you motivated? Well, I have different motivations for different things. Like music while now, I just wanna be the best. Wow. Like now I'm in a mode where I just wanna be the best. Like I'm in the studio every night, you know. Working, constantly working. So I wanna be the best version of myself. Are you the type of person that downfalls push you harder? Yeah. Yeah, whenever I'm going through something, that's when you're gonna get the best me. So I'm very toxic. I might cheat on my woman or something. So she cussed me out, you know what I'm saying? So I have something to write about. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I really, I really- Yeah, hardship makes the best T-Rail. Yeah. I think it makes the best music. I'm tired of hearing the same trap rapping. I wanna hear what you're going through. I wanna relate to you. I wanna see why you're in the position you're in. So a lot of people who relate to me really relate to what I'm going through in my life. So that's, yeah, you get the best me when I'm hurt. I enjoy reading all your comments whenever you post anything. I really go through and read them comments because your fans are something else. The love that they have for you? Yeah. Man, I feel it. It's not even for me, but I feel it. Well, I was talking to Morey one time and he was telling me like, he was like, he was in my living room. We got down in the studio session. He was like, bro, I wish I was kind of like you were, you built the fan base. Like you built the foundation. So if from all them years that I've been on the road, the foundation has been built. So these, they're not fans of me, they're family to me. My fans is family. So when I go to East city, I gotta set amount of family in East city. They gonna come see me regardless if I come two or three times. They love me. They're into not just me, my music. There's people that don't even know T-Rail music. They know T-Rail and his son. They know T-Rail and my shopping habits. It's just, they really be into my life. That's what happens when you give them more of a story in less music. Because that's what you do. Especially on your Instagram and stuff like that. But you know, just like I asked you a question about your downfalls and your disappointments and how it pushes you more. How did that situation where you were put off that tour? Oh, blue. Yeah, yeah. How did that push you even harder? It made me go extra hard. I was on my phone 24 seven. I was in my mind, I was in studios. I'm constantly sitting here putting together my mind like, no, ain't no elves here. I ain't gonna say a lot like it didn't hurt because when a person, you see a person as your friend, that's one of my biggest downfalls too. I friend a lot of people. And that's cause of my big heart. I friend a lot of people and I was like, okay, you my dog. And then when it, when somebody do something behind your back is like that, it hurts. But it only gave me more fuel. But what lesson did you learn? Cause God put us through different situations to open our eyes to certain situations. So in my mind, everything we go through, you ought to take a step back and be like, okay, God, what do I need to learn from this situation? Well, it just taught me to be more on guard. You know, not trust as much. I mean, you still have my big heart. You know, I'll still be the guarantee rail that I am. But I've got to protect my heart more, you know, ask more questions or, you know, just really be more on guard and with my energy and who I give it to and learn how to read people better. Yeah. Yeah. Because I could understand that. Cause when you came on social media and said what you said, I felt it because in any situation when somebody tell you that this is a situation and you put all your ducks in a row prepared for that. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? And I remember when you said, well, I canceled this and I did this and I did that just so I could be able to do this. Yeah, he's my friend. I seen, I seen young blue as a friend. Right. I seen him as a partner. You know, I remember a young blue, when he had a little boosty chain on, I'm talking about a B chain on with the crown on it. That's what, that's the chains. Boots used to give his artists. I wouldn't even boost his artists. Boots, I paid Boots to get on tours. Right. You know, I was just a person, I was a customer. You know, that turned into a friend. You know, I remember young blue when he first came around and nobody knew him. And so that's how, that's what really bothered me. Like, come on, bro. We, you know where we both come from. So I see you as on a come up. I have children. You have children. I don't wish no bad on nobody who got a family to feed. That's another, that's another family out there that's eating. So I don't wish no bad. I just want people to be solid. Be real about your word. Is this a friendship that can be repaired even with a discussion? I try to reach out to young blue. He's not the phone talker type. And he ain't text back. I mean, I'm only gonna reach out so many times. We both grown men and I'm not about this chasing nobody. Let's back up. You know, y'all jump right on into it. Like, you know, like it was a pun. Hit the buzzer, hit the buzzer. Y'all, you know what, we really don't know what happened. Don't want to get in your business too much. I heard about you being kicked off the tour. I want details though. What happened that day that made that happen you feel in your heart. What did you say something to him? Did y'all have a conversation before that? No. Let's be real. No, I'm being real. So it's basically, Boosie called me early in the morning time. It was like a couple of weeks before tour started. So it's Boosie that started. Yeah, so Boosie called me and he was like. I mean, Boosie got to pay. Boosie never stopped playing with me. I know this is what I do. Yeah, Boosie called me and said, hey, real, I need some hooks from you. I'm dropping the Deluxe album. And I was like, by the way, your album hard because he just dropped the album. And I'm like, your album hard, bro. It is, I listen to that whole. That's one of the best Boosie albums I've heard in a minute. Yes, yes. So as a friend, I'm like, your album hard. I like that song, You Got Jail Talk. He's like, oh, you like Jail Talk? I'm about to shoot the video tonight. And I didn't know he took a screenshot picture of me. Boom. Posted me on Instagram. And then he was like chatting with my boy T-Rail for showing love. I get a phone call. No, my boy Carlos get a phone call. My manager Carlos get a phone call. Instantly, and blue manager get on the phone. It's just start downplaying my character. You don't start talking on rate, downplaying my character. And I really want for it. I'm not gonna sit back and let nobody just keep, you know, you ain't about to keep talking about me. I'm a whole mom and say what I gotta say. So I said, I had to say to keep me on tour right there on the phone. And because Boosie posted me on Instagram. It was because of a post, but I feel like you asked me to go on your tour. I didn't come to you. I didn't DM you, you DM me. And you knew that me and Boosie had a relationship before you asked me to come on tour. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't come to you knowing y'all cool and I'm not cool with her. And then expect you not to be cool. Not knew what I was getting into before I asked you. Now it goes a little deeper because y'all got these empire ties, right? Okay. It don't just stop at the surface. It's a lot like, like I know Boosie has a thing where him and you know, Blue have an issue with the empire situation. Did you not think that some kind of way this stuff could be a trivial thing? You know, Fars when you, when you start to even deal with it cause you know, and I know that these guys are having a major issue in the industry. Yeah, I've seen it, but I really, I try not to be a part of it. I'm focused on me, man. I'm focused on what I got going on. Yeah, I might see something online, but I'm really focused on what I got going on. That's not my business. You know, it's definitely not my business. Do you think going forward, like the next person that you go on a show with or even if they ask you to come on a show with them, especially if you hear about a situation like this, do you think it would be proper for you to just go to them and say, hey, you know me and them and friends, will this be an issue? I mean, yeah. Just to make that part, just get out of the way so you're not wasting your time, so to say. Yeah, personally, I'm gonna tour myself. Okay. So whoever gonna be touring, I'm gonna tour with T-Rail next. You know, I'm getting to the point where I know I can tour my own. I can hold my own. I've done it before, but I wanted the opportunity. You know, I gave up shows for opportunity. Right. So when I say on that note, yeah, if I see that type of situation occurring, I probably won't even get in the situation. You won't even go into it. No. Yeah, it was a smart thing to do. Congratulations on your, was it restaurants? I have a lounge. A lounge. And a club. I was so happy for you when you posted the first one and then in no time you posted the second one. Like, dang, you rolling a little bit fast. Yeah, my new nickname is Big Boss Real. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Big Boss Man Real. What motivated you to get into it? You know, I have a manager who always talks about being corporate and I try to tell him that hood niggas can be corporate too and still be hood niggas. And not for real though, I love clubs. And I lived in Atlanta for a year and a half. And I had to ask myself, why did I move to Atlanta? I'm from Topeka, Kansas, small city. We don't have no clubs. We don't have no radio stations. We don't got no, we don't, we don't got studios. So basically what I want to do in my hometown is I want to build everything that made me want to move to Atlanta for it. Wow. You know, I seen you flossing with your restaurant, your whatever, you got so much. No, no, you got money. When people got money, they get changed. They get new cars. I watched this stuff online because I don't go out no more. So that's all I got. I go out on Instagram and I go out on all these different platforms and that's how I see them. When I see T-Rail, he's with Tank. He's with all these different people. This is how it lays out for me. 85 South Show. All of y'all be together. Nain, you hear about you and Boosie and Blue. It's a whole world out there. You know, I only can look on the online stuff and see what's really going down. Everybody reaching out lately. Kevin O'Leary. That's Damon Jones. See Damon Jones? Shark Tank, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ready to take nine? Everybody's like, eat 40 and early. I thought you would take nine the other day too. Yeah, I've been on fire lately. I don't know that God would do what it did for me. Do you think that because of what happened with you with that situation that people started? I think people know how humble I really am. Because people care about you. People, I'm not just, people know this. I'm rare. Well, what did Boosie say? I want to go back there because I walked off for a second. But what did he say when all this happened? I heard him online a little bit but I really was paying more attention to you because Boosie ain't been on Boss Talk yet. So I don't pay attention to a lot of stuff that ain't been on Boss Talk 101. So I just looked the other way. I said, what T-Rail say? And I'm done because that's the side I'm rolling with. I don't want to even be influenced by nothing else. I'm kind of, I ain't gonna lie. I'm a little biased when it comes down to who ain't been on and who haven't. So, you know, I'm spying real petty. I'm real petty. So yeah, I looked at you and I was like, damn, Boosie, open my boy money now. Yeah, man. You know, because I know you love him. I know you're a boy. I know y'all started out. He would let you rock out on the show. I got the story on tape, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna tell you this. Before Boosie made that post about the video. No, he ain't caught me. Before he made the video, shouting out, he said, call him Young Blue Clown. I was at 300 and, I was at 319,000 followers. Now I'm sitting at 333,000 followers. Boosie paid me with that many followers that quick. That's more than money right now. My page is on fire. They woke people up to who T-Rail is. They made people that didn't listen to my music like, oh, this dude raw. You know what I'm saying? Like he really talented. Cause I feel like I'm a, I'm slept on. I feel like people really don't know how really raw I am. And when the people, it took a beef. It took, not even a beef. It took a situation to open eyes to people who are who I am. I ain't never been on so many vlogs in my life in one day. You know what I'm saying? I was on XXL. You were on Vlad too. Vlad. I'm gonna say cheese who never posts as T-Rail. I've seen it. And I'm one of the biggest. I'm not even from Dallas. And I feel like I'm one of the biggest artists from Dallas. And I should be posting more on there. I should be posting more in my videos. You are man. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, money. I don't need no money from him. I'm making my own money. I got a show tonight full backhand paid. So I'm good. You know, I got a show tomorrow full backhand paid. I'm good. They don't got owe me nothing. Everything and always pay me no money. That's right. Especially with me. I see value in certain different things. I see value in friendship. I see value in the love you show. I see value in the follow-up that you just helped me with. The tour is canceled. I would have been off, I would have been at home anyway. The canceled the tour. You see how God don't like ugly. Wow. I didn't even know that. But I still gained 13, 14,000 followers. Wow. Well, I think one thing about it, you know, it really, the handwriting's already on the wall. Man, God already had a purpose style in the way it was gonna be. God said be still. That was the heart of it. You know what I mean? God said be still. He said be still. I don't have to say anything or do anything. I think everything that happened, happened for a reason as Mr. Jamaica always say. Always. That's right. I mean you, I mean the music man, like I said, Tech Nine, I wanna go back to that. I met Tech Nine. I actually had his cousin in here the other week and we tried to get him on the line. He was at some awards show in the South down in Mississippi, I believe it was. But at any rate, what the hell y'all doing together? Man, Tech is OG, bro. That nigga is got a coke following too. You deal with niggas with coke following. Is that what you like? Yeah, bro, Tech. I ain't gonna hold you by my sleep. It was like, I heard my phone ring. I said, Tech Nine, meet up. I said, what's going on? He said, hey man, I'm in the studio till three o'clock. Now you get here before the end, you can pop in on me. Well, I hopped out of bed so damn fast. I'm talking about, I'm talking about, I forgot my jewelry, everything. Had y'all talked before? Y'all always talking? We talk, but he's always busy. I'm always trying to catch him. Finally caught him. Got him. You feel what I'm saying? But I live an hour away from Kansas City, so I had to get on my highway. I hopped out of bed, boom, boom, boom. I don't think I brushed my teeth. I ain't gonna hold y'all. I got up, I hopped in. I said, this Tech Nine, bro. I've been listening to Tech Nine since I was a little kid. And, you know, it's probably how New York, this is probably how New York artists look at Jay-Z. I look at Tech Nine the same way. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Because he the biggest thing from my area, my region, my jurisdiction. Nobody's ever been reached Tech Nine level. I went to Strange Man. I seen all them buildings and studios and clothing factories and live stages. I said, oh, this motivation. That boy, that serious man has always had, I remember when he was really, really like, like people coming over to the store trying to find his product because you couldn't find it. He kept it so isolated to his own brand. I'm talking about about 10 years ago to where you couldn't get it, but the people kept coming to my store trying to figure it out. Can you get it? And I had met him, so they see his pictures and stuff on the wall. And I knew his merchandise, but I just didn't have, I didn't have his product. I lost a lot of my game off of Tech. Yeah, he's all our game. A lot of me is like, I watched Tech Nine. So because I don't got all the super outlets and I'm, I got a cold fan base. Like you say, I can go to each city. I've been doing it for years. I've been doing it for years. So I got a lot of image from him. So now we really stepping into the merch game, but it was good to have a actual one-on-one with him. There weren't no managers. There were no producers. There were no label heads, which is me and Tech Nine sitting there having a good conversation. Then I learned a lot and it was really inspiring. Wow. So did you guys get something put down on him? Oh yeah. And actually he actually heard a record I got with E40 coming out. And I didn't know that him and E40 was cousins. What? Like they blood cousins. That's what we heard on this show. Shout out to E40. That's my guy. He follow me on, but Tech, you don't follow me nigga. I'm just gonna go and be real with you. I mean, you know, I met you when you didn't, you really didn't have, you didn't have a whole bunch back then. You had some millions, but not like you got now, nigga. You know I know. Yeah. Love this nigga. He's cool bro. I always shout him out on this show. Isn't that what his cousin told us? That Tech Nine told him that him and E40 is cousins? Yeah. Yeah, he did. He did say it on this show. I love about him that. Yeah, yeah. That's hard, man. I think that's something that, like to even be in those conversations, right? Yeah. With the E40s, with all those guys, Tech Nine, with, you know, the tanks. Your name is just ringing really in the right rooms in the right places. So if you continue to work like you've been working and can't nothing but good come from it. I support the people who came before me. Yeah. Because they're who you want to learn from. Yeah. You know, like a lot of them helped me out. They give me a lot of advice and I listen. I ain't gonna hold you rain, try to keep me away from older people. Tell you what. They'll rain to stop that old man. They old around. He's always saying that. But he's coming around because he went down to that damn kill burger. He just was older and he said, man, I ain't never got to meet all them older guys, man, and bum being them. So he's cool. And he learned a lot. He learned stuff out. Yeah, bro. I've been telling him for years, like bro, that's the wave right there. And I hold you, I even talked to a lot of promoters. Promoters like booking the older artists, more than younger artists, because older artists hitting you 90K and they can't, you can't sell nothing now. But these older artists, they got more singles. They got more catalog. You know what I'm saying? Experience. Experience and they price is perfect, perfect. So I watched them and I listened to them. I remember I was doing contracts one time and Mike Jones was teaching me about contracts. Don't sign this. This right here is gonna lock you in this. They, I'm listening to you. You've been through this. How cold is that though? He's real. He's another one that I look at that he learned the game through experience. He had some hell of a bumps that he hit. And when he hit those bumps and those broods and now he giving back by sharing his information with you and others. He was doing it real heavy on a clubhouse. He was on that just giving all the jewels away to everybody trying to get everybody up on the game. You listen to him, he real smart with contracts. He real smart with that. And he gonna keep you out of a bad situation. So how did you and Mike Jones even meet? I met Mike Jones. I used to be a promoter. Okay. Before I even did music, I was a promoter in the host. And I used to book Texas artists all the time. Kansas, I used to make so much money booking. Trilley, Prince, Rick, I booked GS boys, party boys, Mike Jones, Lil' Flip, Mode 3. I used to book everybody. I used to bring them Lawrence, Kansas, Kirk O'Bangs, ask any of them. I used to book them. And that's how I got cool with all of them. And I used to do songs with them. Then I turned in from being a promoter to being a host to being an artist. So that's how I got cool with everybody that do all the music out here. Young Nation was like my little brothers. What? Me, Reed, me. I talked to Fooley two days ago. That's my boy, man. I used to come out here kicking with DJ Murk all the time. Go to church with him. Shout out to Fooley and his dad. I went down to that Atlanta native's dad's restaurant over there. His pop's got a restaurant down there by you. Did you know that? Seafood field. Seafood field, shout out. He say got one in Atlanta. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went down there and filmed. Okay, that's great. So good, man. Man, I love Young Nation. They're my boys, man. A little twist, we kicking a call with him all the time. Talking to him the other way. So that's what I said. I'm not from Dallas, but it's like I'm from here too because I used to be here all the time. Man, that's live, man. That's real live. So who do T-Reds... First of all, let me ask you who you want to work with, Nick. You called me with that bogus call. I was excited about you and Marae and D'Riz Deshaun doing that damn music together. You did it. It fell through. I talked to D'Riz. I said, D'Riz, man, what happened to the damn me? He say, man, everybody got different stuff going on. I don't want to hear that, bro. Now, I ain't gonna hold you. Me and D'Riz is on it. Y'all got a million songs together. We got the whole album on my phone. I got the whole album on my phone. We're gonna do a listening session. I'll let you hear something. Yeah, I got to hear it, man. So what's the problem? Will y'all ever be able to put something together? Yes, we're just waiting on Marae. Really, it's me. I'm gonna be honest with you. It's me and Marae. Oh, Marae. I said it, then there's Hollywood. Damn. Marae, come on, bro. You all know my music, man. I don't play like that. He just going through a situation where he want to be bossed up and I understand him. You know what I'm saying? He's a real one. He called me on the phone. We had a great conversation. The music is great. It ain't over. Nobody, because nobody's heard it. Nobody's heard it. You know what I'm saying? So when we put it out, just know the big three gonna be the biggest thing. The big three, I waited on it, man. It's hard. I changed it to three the hard way, but I was missing it. I tell everybody about it, man. Three the hard way. It was a vibe in there when we made that album. I'm talking about it. We made it in three days. I remember. I'm talking to you. It made, when Morey going to do a verse, it made me want to go harder than him. When I went to do a verse, it made the Reds want to go harder than me. So it's like, it was just a vibe in there. Everybody want to be better than the next person. And it just ended up, what really showed, and what I really was proud of it was, it showed that we're three different people. Yeah. I get tired of everybody saying, T. Reds sound like the Reds. The Reds sound like Morey. Morey sound like Rod Wave, Rod Wave. This could be all fat. We don't sound the same. You know what I'm saying? Like we told three different people. We went through three different lifestyles, come with three different regions. Four, you know what I'm saying? So you're going to hear. And it's going to show it in this. It's going to show it in the music. Now you're going to give it. Now you may be able to put us separately. This is Morey sound. This is T. Reds sound. And this is the Reds and Shawn sound. I still got to get y'all, you and the Reds on here because y'all both disagree on who came out with the, you know. I mean, the Reds go back and forth by this all the time. You know what I'm saying? That pain style, you know. Look at the, I'm just telling you, the nigga don't agree with it. He said he was another name. He didn't even have another name, bro. He said because he's came out. He had another name. He didn't blow up before. What was the name? What was the name? The first one? Was it Debo? It was something. It was something. The Reds did not blow up before T. Reds. T. Reds blew up first. Say, but the Reds, the Reds said he was first. He went plodding me for me, but I blew up first. Wow. Y'all, I got to get y'all in the room together. That's going to be good. I blew up first. I know that. I know y'all both, y'all both heavy and y'all both run down through there. That's my brother. That's my brother. That's my brother. I'll call him on the phone and tell him, hey man, look at the dates up. My phone blew up first. You know, that's the one thing I love about y'all. Energy, y'all always linking up, man. It's great energy. Every time I talk to y'all, y'all done talked to each other, worked together, been in the studio. That's what this is all about, man. Coming together and doing something great. I want to give it to your son and I know I've seen you and your son, man. Don't the way you deal with your son, man. I want to say congratulations. Congratulations. Because he beat cancer. I love that. I heard you. When you chanted it out, I was so happy about that, bro. Man, my wife, we sent back, just checking everything out. Like, how big was that for you? I know it was everything. Huge, man, Jordan. I'm so happy, bro. Man, you understand, God, God, real, man. Jordan is a ball of life, bro. And that's why I'm doing this TV show with him. Yeah. It drops on his birthday, the 21st. I can't wait. You've been talking about it. You've been talking about it over the last time. We actually started about to start shoot season two, but season one, art, it's kind of dated, but you're gonna, it's still new to everybody. Okay. But I'm still putting it out. It's great footage. And you're gonna love it. It's gonna show the ins and out of people with disabilities. It's gonna show his cancer battles that he dealt with. But it's also gonna show how lively he is. Jordan, he's, man, he's just different. I got three children and he's, I'm talking about, he's, he's always the one that's always upbeat, happy. I don't care what he's going through. That boy had a tumor on his right testicle. Still smiling. Hey, you know, still smiling. Cancer still smiling. He just, that's just Jordan. And I want to show the world, Jordan. I want to show the world out. Beautiful people with disabilities really are because you treat them different. Don't treat them different. They're, they're great people. Autism, Down syndrome, ass burgers. You know what I'm saying? They're all great people. And I even learned about autism, kicking it with my boy Carlos, son. Yeah, yeah. No, autism and Down syndrome, they're, They're very hand in hand. Hand in hand, but you can tell the differences between the two. What are the differences? I'm gonna show that in season two. Wow. Okay. Because I'm gonna have Carlos, son. People get it mixed up a lot. Yeah, they do. So that's why I want to show the difference between Down syndrome and autism and on season two of Best Buddies. It's gonna be Cordae and Jordan. I'm gonna have them on there, on the show. That is so big. How much of, how much of you, were you in the season one? Yeah, I'm all in season one. That's what I was trying to say, because I know you busy traveling. That's why I'm like, how you find time to even be in there? I only took me a week to shoot the whole season, first season. Okay. So what I do is I'll keep myself for a week. I'll clear a week out and we, we do the whole season. Okay. Wow. Six episodes. Six episodes. That's huge, man. So I mean, I hear you redo songs all the time, but you never put the whole niggas on there that you steal the songs from. I just put Juvenile on my last song. Oh, oh, oh. I'm gonna get to that. But I'm talking about these singing niggas. I don't know if you scared them when I was singing you or they scared you, you know, vice versa. You must not know, you gonna, all I'm saying is you and Tank, I sing y'all, I said, man, how'd that be a good song? I bought you Tank on my last R song. We just ain't put it out. Damn, so didn't, darn it. See what I mean? Is it? And how we gonna know? And a lot of people tell me my artist is very better. Now the lyrics definitely, definitely go hard. He was begging, I was telling him what I want. No, no, no. He definitely know. I love Tank. That's my boy. I know. That's my boy. That's my big brother. He actually, I ain't gonna hold you. That was one of the first text messages I got when the, you know, young blue stuff happened. Oh, yeah? You know, Tank preached it to me. Hey, brother, I need you to understand. He wants you to know. Out there, he put me in the big brother. Nobody can, you know, put me in the big brother. A lot of people hit me up, but Tank was definitely one of the first. I got a lot of love for Tank. He's a real one for letting me redo his song, period, period, because there's some people that don't allow me to, but I'm often like I'm the R and B Lil Wayne. I can, when it comes to this remixing. Boosie, since he did what he did, you know, by posting your picture, when are we gonna get another song from y'all? You know, he owe you that much now. Yeah, we was talking about it. Yeah, he owe you that much now. We gonna get it done. You know, I'm tough on you. Yeah, we all, we get it done. Love this nigga. That's why I be messing with. I'm gonna have to get him on your show or something. No, no, I love Boosie, man. You know, PMC, that's my favorite all the time. Of course. So, Boosie was birthed from that. Yeah. So I never, that's my guy. You can't really, you can't even say, No, family is, I can talk about the nigga, but you come in here and say something. You not, you not feeling about Boosie up here or like that. No. I'm with it. Hey, I love Boosie. Yeah. Without, without Boosie help, it would have been a lot harder for me. I still made it. I prefer him to believe I still would have made it. Without Boosie help, he gave me that push. Yeah. I mean, even though I paid. Yeah, you did. Even though I paid. But that's how you go. But a person with a Boosie statue when he got out of prison, he could have charged me 50 bands for a feature. He took 10. Right. He could have charged me 50 bands like most of these Boosie artists do for a video. He took eight, you know what I'm saying? And then came to my city and then still let me perform with them and kick through with me all day and shot the video. You know, then let me go on tour. You know, I didn't have much money when it's time to pay for that tour. Cause I had a other guy, somebody else with me, another investor and he was paying for his artist to go on tour. Boosie looked at him and said, no, get T-Rail for your shows that you paid for or you're not going on tour. You know what I'm saying? Four shows turned into three years worth of shows with Boosie for free. And that's hard. And that's what it's supposed to be. And that's what people don't think about when you pay something or you do something for people. It's an investment. It's an investment. Cause it's really just, you build relationships different ways, man. And however that person decided to deal with it cause they do have that value because they've been in the game, I get it. I tell everybody, any artist that come up, if you want a quick buzz, if you can hold your own, if you want a quick buzz and you want a real fans get a feature with Boosie. I look at his podcast he do. I look at the interviews he do. I look at the interviews, all the interviews and songs. Anytime a person starts off with Boosie numbers, he's great on internet. He's amazing on internet. Look at funny Marco show. He used Boosie for the pilot. He used Boosie cause he didn't have to trick Boosie. He didn't really ask real questions. The other people, it was more, you know, it was kind of scripted. But Boosie was a real interview, you can tell. And it was really funny. Boosie, if you want to get a song, he ain't like the other big artists where you got to submit, they want 50, 60, they ain't gonna do it. You come with that bag, he's gonna work with you. And he got a big name and he's gonna help. That's how I feel. No, I get it. What about the younger guys? I always look at you artists and they ain't gonna lie. You wanted the ones who basically now you know in this lane where you could reach back and help some younger guys. Like, what are you doing to help the younger guys just coming up behind you? Really motivation, really they want to work with me. I do the same thing as Boosie do. Yeah, you know, I do good features for them and I let them open up and shows for me in. I want to do the same thing to help me out. Now, it's up to you to have your own hustle. Cause I still, even with the help, you still got to have your own hustle about yourself. But I still, I like motivation, talking to them. I'm very, you know me, I'm very one-on-one with people. You write me, it ain't my manager writing you, it's me. Yeah, but I wanna, that's what I look at, man. So many artists come up and they be just about themselves. But there's so many younger artists that's striving to do what they see. And if they really honest about it and you can have that spirit of discernment. I'm always plugging, bro. I'm always plugging people. That's the whole game. Even if you don't know this or not, I'm always plugging people. I can, I feel like, not on a cocky, I feel like I've made it to a certain level. So I can be comfortable if I want to. I'm not comfortable. So that's what I'm saying is like, if I give you a chance to be around me, that's a plug, bro, because you never know who you, what situations you're gonna be in. You never know who you're gonna meet or where I'm gonna be. Cause I got access to places that you don't have access to when you're just coming up. And that's a plug for you to get the rubbed shoulders. I went to Miami with Tank and I met Diddy and Damon John. Now I think if you were just with me and you was just at homey. Now you've met the same people I met. They had the same opportunities as me just having the opportunity to be around me. Some people got a little seen value in being around a person. They're always about money. Money is not always payment. Sometimes the relationship is payment. That's how I see it. Cause I felt there's some good relationships. Now Tank ain't paid me a dime, but going to Miami with him to go see with Damon John and Diddy and anybody that I met was payment. Okay, but, okay, y'all, yeah, that's payment. Yes, that's cliche. That's cliche. No, it's not. It's payment. You need to tell me how. Yeah, y'all talked about it. It's payment. What did you see in them? What did you see in them that helps bond something in you? Those connections that you meet as long as you use them in the right way and you rub shoulders the right way, you're gonna do something with it. Just how you think I got Damon John and Kevin O'Leary to shout me out recently? That's what I'm saying. That's what I wanted to hear. Because I was with Tank and I met Chauncey who works with Damon close hand. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I don't just talk to the main people. I talk to people who was around them. That's always been one of my things. How do you think I got more and more shows on Boosie Tour? I wasn't just talking to Boosie. Everybody wants to talk to Boosie. I was talking to Big T and Chill who was Boosie's security guard and DJ. You always go to the workers. Them people really doing the real work. So when you're getting the time, you can be around this artist, use their connections, but really find the little people around them. Because that's the real deal plug. Well, so when you got, when you seen Damon John, like what did you see in him just meeting him that sparked something in the same? Big Shark Tank fan. You asked him about that Shark Tank? I didn't ask him nothing. I really shook his hand and said thank you. Madam, the person I talked to was Chauncey, the person that's sitting next to him. Okay. Because I'm an artist. Nine times out of 10, if I'm at a party, I'm drinking. You don't want to talk to me. Who you want to talk to is Carlos. Yeah. Carlos is going to plug you more than I'm going to ever plug you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it's still me plugging because you're going to ask me about it. Yeah. But at the end of the day you want to talk to that man. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, that's my advice to artists right there too. Don't always go for the artist. Go for the person that's really pressing the buttons. That's real. Go for the person pressing the buttons. I agree. What's your favorite episode or a theme that Damon and John does on Shark Tank that you love the most? Cause you say you watch Shark Tank. I watch Shark Tank. So tell me what's the most favorite thing? I ain't gonna hold you. My favorite person on Shark Tank is Kevin O'Leary. Really? That's who shouted me out to. Why? I love how he talks to people. I love how he's really firm about it. If it's a good idea, it's good. If it feels as bad, it's horrible. And he's gonna tell you he's gonna be honest with you. Ain't no sugarcoating it. And I like how he always asks for the royalty deal. He always asks for the royalty deal. Tear. He's always like a small portion of the royalties. You can keep the equity. I don't want the equity. Give me the royalties. You know what I'm saying? If you don't like him, just say you're a dad to me. Right. You know what I'm saying? He's just real. I like Mark Cuban. I watch the show all the time. Barbara and Richard B on there sometimes. I watch that show 24, on my YouTube. You know, we need to have some, all you entrepreneur, hip hop artists. We need to have a show like that where we see how they're invested outside of the music. That would be a damn good show. That'd be hard. That'd be hard. We don't know what it's been in their damn money at. That'd be hard. You got a lot of change and shit on. No, but I think that purposely, a lot of artists purposely, especially when they've been doing it for a while, I think they purposely want to move in silence. They don't want nobody to know their movements. Well, that ain't the way it goes. Some of them ain't going to be like that. Everybody not the same. Some of them, some of them, some of them, but some of them going to want to tell you I'm investing in this or I got this going on so that they, it's all to help somebody else. It's not even about all this flossing or nothing like that. Like years ago when I saw All Silent Nelly, the first thing he ever told me was get big in your city, buy a real estate. Of course. And get big with the higher ups in your city. He said, because at the end of the day, you're not going to mean shit to New York. At the end of the day, you're not going to mean shit to Chicago. You're going to mean everything to your city. So get bigger where you're from. So right now, you know, in Topeka, I got my own day in my city. I'm really close with the police department. I'm really close with the fire department. I'm really cool with the DA's and people that's really downtown making the decisions for the city judges. And you got to really tap in. So now everybody's rooting for me while I'm opening my own businesses. Because they did that write up about you and you were very ecstatic about that. Yeah, man, I can call, I can call down the news station and interview for almost anything. They love me down there. I really feel like a household name in my town. And I'm proud to be from Topeka, Kansas. I'm proud to be from Kansas, period. And to be a businessman and have people like Kevin O'Leary and Damon John shout me out. That right there lets me know, like it motivates me to go order in business. I gotta say I'm big business real now. When is your lounge opening? My goal is getting over on November. Y'all definitely gotta come out. I need to come up there, no cap. Both of them? Same time? One in Cincinnati is already doing soft parties. We had a little scrappy there a couple weeks ago. It was packed and it had a new magician there. He was killing out. I don't know who this magician was but he came, he had it packed out, he got a following. I said, boy, you gonna have me party your show. He came up, yeah, so Cincinnati is, I named Cincinnati's Mo's Lounge. Long live Mo3. And I named my one of Topeka Parties Lounge after my brother, Akeba, who passed away. I remember those stories. I was in next city, you gonna open another one. I'm on a Pride Dallas. Need to. Is your next home? Might as well. I love the way you're investing and just trying to do things to keep the memories of the people that you love alive, bro. That's something that has to be spoken on. Like there's a thing where I always ask about certain things that appeal. What was one of those things about Mo3 that really pretty much, now you miss most of all, you know what I mean? Realness. He was real. Mo3 was real. If he say he gonna do it, if he rock with you, he rock with you. If he don't, he don't. I missed genuine friendship between, caught like peers. You know, like only person I really had that, like that with, that's my, I feel my peers like DC on fly. Love DC on fly. You on DC real cool. Hell yeah. You know, it's the most artist you call, they bougie, he don't pick up, they don't talk. I know people be busy, not even a text message back. You know, we lock in or they say they gonna do something, don't do it. Mo will do it. He will do it. We tour together, chill together, laugh together, studios, and he was a good guy. He be beyond all the, I like when he sang, you know what I'm saying? He was really into his music. Now rapping side, he was really good. So I was like, man, sing more. You know, I just miss friendship. I miss the funny times, clowning and stuff like that. I got a question. So what is it about DC young fly that inspires you? Cause everybody, when you have friendships and especially like amongst colleagues, there's always something about that person that inspire you. What inspires you about him? I like DC young flies work ethic. I love his work ethic. I love how he's, he go from job to job. And it's like, he motivates me like bro, he's like, he go from wow now to comedy shows, to 85 South show, to R and B, and he'll get up there and do R and B. Like he going show to show to show. DC is a real, real human being. Like he a real guy. He'll pick up the phone, call you, talk to you. Like he called me randomly. He was what you up to. He ain't wondering when you got to call him all the time. You could tell us a real friendship. You know, I remember we did our first song together. He stayed in the studio, did it with me, met me in Nebraska. We shot the video in Nebraska at all places and shot the video with me. You know, that's in middle of nowhere. Right. One thing I love about DC, let's say like, let's say he come to Kansas City. He got a concert. I'm like, hey bro, how much you gonna try me to do the after party? Fool, I don't want no money from you. You know what I'm saying? Like, get the shit going and I'll be there. I got you. You know, I got you. That's whole, you know. Who doing that? Not many people. Not many. That's the, I think that's noble of him to even be like that in this day and time. Cause everybody, when they get to a certain status, you know, and I know a lot of them don't stay the same. You know what I mean? That man getting hundreds of thousands. That's right. A lot of them don't stay the same. A lot of niggas change when they get a little change. You know what I'm saying? I've seen it, man. More so than, you know what I mean? Than none. I see it a lot. And the biggest thing I admire about DC on Fly, he prays 24 seven. That's what I was waiting to hear from you. He prays 24. I'm talking about, he'll get right down on me right there and pray, get up. Something else happened. He prays a lot. I love his relationship with God. He won't let me to pray, bro. You know what I'm saying? You need that relationship with God. You need that relationship where you one-on-one with him and you stay protected. I feel like the reason I move, I move. My mama prayed for me all the time. So I feel covered. You know, I'm covered. My mama prayed for me. I said it in my songs. I really admire how much he prayed. I like that, man. He been through so much here lately without everything with his, with his baby mother passing. You know, that's one thing I, I mean, Chico Bean just left the show. Like, like, is them guys have a bun, man. That's why that show works for them, you know? And just, you know, good dudes, man. And it's crazy how all of them are so different. But they still ain't even getting it. Oh, cool. Why ain't met Chico? Chico was just on there. Chico, Chico on there, 85, I went there. But Carlos and DC, I was with. Yeah. And Moneyback Mafia. I remember you called me that night. How was it for you going on that show? God, it's so nice, man. It was different. Like the normal interview was more just straight jokes. Yeah, yeah. Funny, cutting up, laughing. Yeah. It was just, I had a great time, ain't you? Wow. That's the crazy thing about it, man. You know, earlier you were saying something about, you know, certain people who don't pick up the phone. I always count that as God saying no. It's a reason why they don't pick up the phone because God don't want them to pick up the phone. It wasn't meant to be. Yeah, you don't want no relationship with somebody. That's God telling you how that person is. I'm cool with that. And I let that person, that's his truth. Whoever doing that, that's the truth. And I'm cool with it because I know who you are and I know how to play you. My move now. But what gets me is like, what gets me is like, you're not answering the phone, but say in the past two weeks where I'm super buzzing, I'm getting phone calls. For sure. You know, don't be, I don't want no energy around me, bro. But that's where you know how to move. Yeah. And silence is violence. Yeah, like, come on. You ain't hear me, man. The same people see coming up. That's right. Hey, silence will cut you off, man. When you stop talking and go and move, okay, I see it. I hear you loud and clear. You don't even have to say nothing to me and you say so much to me. Oh yeah. You know what I'm saying? Thanks. Oh yeah. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. So what's up? There's a lot of words in Mr. Michael. What's up? What you think about that? Cause you do me like this sometimes around the house. I don't want to put our person to be like, you don't never say something sometimes. Me? Look how she act innocent, man. Yeah. Give him a silent treatment. Yes, he'll cut me off. Let me tell you what I do. I give him a silent treatment. It just depends on what it is. About 15 minutes. But then, my, okay. I just started doing this last year. You and your spouse or your girlfriend who ever have a disagreement. If you talk or try to say something, come in the argument, he was like, forget it. I'm not going to talk to you. I'll text. I'll go in the next room and I'll text whatever I got to say and let him think about it. Then we'll come together and talk about it. Okay. That's what I do. We mean, we don't think about it like that, bro. I mean, you text me, we'll look at it, we'll throw a heart back. That's cool. You know what I'm saying? We have a more emotional memory. Very. Very logical. So you done got married on me since you left the show? Oh no, man. No. You out there, you out there fishing. I love women, bro. You out there fishing. You out there. But you want to settle down one day. Nope. Why not? Nah, yeah. She gonna be in junior right now. Yeah. She gonna be in junior right now. She's never getting married, right? Nope. You don't want to get married either. No, man. No. I want freedom. Forever? Forever, ever? T-Rail, let me tell you something. If I put 10 billionaires in this room and I say how many of y'all not married is only gonna be about one. That's not married? Damn. Better get you somebody. That's all. Oh, I'm gonna be real honest with you. I'm gonna be real honest. Sometimes, yeah, you like that companionship. I just don't like competition. I don't like, I like to be grown. I've been doing my own things since I was 14 years old. I don't like feeling like you my mama. I don't want no mama. I want a woman. I want no mama. You know, my mama don't even tell me to come inside. I'm a rock star. I like to be an out two, two, three in the morning. I like to be out four o'clock. I don't like to be told to come home at a certain time. Or where are you being at? I hate that question. Where are you being? Oh, don't worry, I'm grown. If I wanna go to the studio and sit there all night, if I wanna get my car ride around all night, that's what I wanna do. I don't wanna sit there and be asked 50 questions. This ain't 50 cent innate dog. Don't ask me nothing. I'm grown. But you gotta find somebody who understands the business. Well, maybe I need to find somebody to do what I do so we don't ask each other questions. Damn. Exactly. I gotta ask you about Juvia, man. We talked about it briefly earlier. Just give me that spiel on how you and him even came up with that connection. I seen everything, seemed like everything is- Juvia is a real one too. Did you not know what Juvia Tuesday? Man, I'm in the Juvia Tuesday. I ate the crawfish, I ate the fish, I ate the- Hey man, that shit was fire, but Juvia is a good dude. Like I told you, oh Jesus, they where they at. Juvia had me out there for a Donna fence. You know, shout to his wife, he throws it for her. I performed in New Orleans at a great time with Juvia. That Juvia juice is good too. It is? It's good. Yeah. What's in it? It's like a seltzer, they call it seltzer. Okay, I don't know, I never had it. It's fire though, it's got different flavors. Is it alcoholic? Yeah, it's fire though. So hypothetically, if you and Juvia, you know, they do the hot boy tour and he want you to come out. I'm definitely gonna- He gonna be there. What you think about that? BG coming home, the tour, you know, they talking it's gonna be something- I'm for anybody coming home from prison. Correct. I'm for anybody getting home and being with their family and their kids and stuff like that. Exactly. I mean, prison ain't a place for rare, not animals, you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna say that to some people that don't deserve to be there. But I'm saying I wouldn't wish it on nobody. No, and if you coming home and you just spent your time and you did what you had to do, come home and do what you gotta do and be there for your family now. It's time for you to see the world and do what you gotta do as a star. BG's a star. You know, he went in a star, he come out a star. So it's just time for him to get his chance to live what you missed. I mean, you ain't found one of the more BG songs that you can redo, you know, you the redo king. You know what I'm saying? You ain't look through it, you look through it. You go through the catalog and see what's going on with it, man. The BG making the R&B records? Oh no, he gangsta with it. You know, that's baby gangsta. I know you got, I want it, you got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can do anything, man. You know, it is something about how you do it. I think if I'm sampling right now, who I'm really like sampling, that's like right now I did a Charlie Wilson. Whoa. I got a Charlie Wilson record that I'm re-sampling. I got a Young Jock record on this album. That's all right. Okay. I got a T-Pain record that I re-did. I got a few of them, man. I just ain't dropped them yet. So basically it's hard for me to drop. I'm like Empires' hard-headed artists. They always stop me from dropping records because Clarence and this artist. So I told Lose, make me a website so I can drop my remixes for free. You know, I'll get more free. People just need to hear these, they hard. Because every studio session, I'll do original music, but I'll always do me one remix for myself. Is it something that I always, I like it. I just feel like producers up today, and they can take it how they want to. Producers up today don't make that good R&B sound like they used to make in the early 2000s. I need, what's that churchy feel? And I feel like people ain't going to church no more. People ain't got that soul in them no more. So you're losing that soul. Everything's up tempo and fast. And it's okay. That's what you like. That's what you like. But me, I want that good slow. I want to smash something. You know what I mean? But people about numbers, the people about what people going to watch, listen to. But the numbers is there, obviously if every time I remix it, and it do numbers. People missing that slow good. People missing that good, love you more every day. Show you love in every way. Cause I love you. Who's making that? No. Nobody. Well, you know. I'd be wondering what people making love to now. The older R&B artists, they're trying to fit in with the new R&B artists. Usher, I want you to make an old Usher record. Tyreece, please make me one of them old classic Tyreece records. Genuine, can I get one of them? Tank, can I get one of them? I'm still a fan of that sound of you. Can I get that one time? You can do all the news. Give me one. Man, you know, you just said something. Tyreece, man, he been going through it here lately, not his old situation, you know, having a, you know, you know, he had some depressive issues going through it. You know, people been coming for Tyreece, man. Well, you love his music, man. What's up with Tyreece, man? Man, I watched a YouTube clip last night. Tyreece is a different brother, man. Oh no, man, I don't know. How you be so rich? Oh, money don't solve everything. Money don't solve everything. Let me stop there. That's a more money, more problem. More money, more problem. That man in the fast and furious end. That boy, he's still talented. He's super talented. He's super talented. Don't you think sometimes when people so talented that you run them in the different avenues where that's what drives them into these places, bro? It could. You see what I'm saying? It could. Sometimes you need a hug, bro. Sometimes you need a tank like he talked to me. Sometimes you need somebody that you look up to to talk to you. Somebody can help you mentally and be there motivational wise for you to get you out some slumps. But you would think that because he's been doing what he's been doing for such a long time and the people that he's worked with for all these years, you would think that he would have that. But then there's peers. Maybe you need somebody who's a little older that he, you know what I'm saying? That he looks up to that he really got a lot of respect for. You know, my brother can, same age as me could tell me something. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah. But if my uncle tell me something. It hit different. It hit different. He might, he probably need to not say anything. He probably need to run a wisely type of age group to say something. He don't know how to chill out, you know what I'm saying? This is me. I look up to older people, you know, cause they've been through it and I'm, they don't know. I'm saying they got all the answers but they, they, they got the majority. Definitely man. Hey man, thank you for coming on the show. We about to, about to wind it down, man. How can, what are you here for a show tonight? Right? Yeah, I'm at a empire. Man, that's hard. Yeah, I'm having a good time tonight. I ain't performing in weeks. I'm ready to turn up. Thank you. I told my boy Carlos. I said, he, he, he, Carlos has a niche for force feeding business on me too much. I'm big business real, but God damn, I want to turn up sometime too. I'm like, Hey bro, I ain't performing in about two weeks. Chill out. Let me have a good time tonight. We in Dallas for my first time here in a long time performing. Yeah. I'm enjoying myself. We can be big business real tomorrow. Tonight is big real, you know what I'm saying? We in Dallas. One of my favorite cities ever come. Let's go. Long live mode three. I'm out here. What's poppin'? Man, thank you, man. I got a question. Hold on. And this is totally different. But you know the, the show, The Masked Singer. Okay. So if you ever had to go on The Masked Singer, what costume would you want to wear? She crazy. And what song would you sing to try to trick the judges up so they wouldn't know it was you? I'll probably be the Cookie Monster. That's hard. That's hard. I'll probably be the Cookie Monster. I'll probably sing some freaky, some. Like what? Probably, dive in by Tray Song. Hey! Man, thank you so much, man. How can people get a hold of you if they trying to rock out with you? T-Rail 75, T-Rail music on TikTok. Just T-Rail 75, everything. Man, thank you so much for coming on the show, brother. We love you. Love you too, man. Man, in this building. When I get to make the new Boss Talk song, man. When you ready? When you ready? We gonna play it. Can I make the new Boss Talk? When you ready? Man, come on, we waiting on you. Check it, man. Hey, man. Listen, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. T-Rail just showed up, man. It blowed up, man. It's going down. Boss Talk 101, when the bosses talk. And we out.