 Welcome, it's International Women's Day. It's Fair Trade Ffordmite. We are friends. We've been with each other for a while. It's lovely to be in the company of you and the Minister of Social Justice and Jennifer Somarzy from Mantelgogh Agraw Forestry and Community Cooperative Enterprise Ltd. So it's Fair Trade Ffordmite at the moment we can't talk about Fair Trade o unrhyw, ond gallwn yn gwirio gyda'r ychydigion. Ond mae'n ddau'r yw'r gweithio, mae'n allan o'r ffwrdd ymlaen. A gynnyddiannau'n ffair traidol yn ddau'r gweithio? Mae ddweud i, Elin. Mae'n ffair mae'r ddweud i'r ddau, a ddweud i'n ddweud i'r ddweud i'r gweithio. Genedd y Ffasambas, yn cyfrifio'r ddweud i'r Gweithio, sy'n darw'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud i'r ddweud. I do fair trade and organic 100% and I'm hoping to get involved in that job because it gives me courage to look after my family and other farmers' families to make sure they are well, at least they have a good view like the world. And how is fair trade pivotal to that work that you do? Fair trade is doing much work because at first it empowered me as a leader, as a woman farmer. It empowered me to be empowering other women and I have learnt a lot, that's why I keep on also empowering other women to come on board and act as an actor and it's really very nice. We are getting good prices for our coffee, there is market for their coffee because if you have a product and you like what's in it, it's not good so we are happy, we have already market and we are doing well. And fair trade is also helping farmers in the communities that are premiums which we get after selling our coffee which develops our properties. If we are going to get those premiums we have to call AGM, we see together farmers make reservations and see how we can use the premiums. It's lovely to hear you talk about that magic premium that not a lot of people know about. It's quite clear how much you empower us, isn't it Minister? Tell us a little bit about that and how you support fair trade personally. Well it's absolutely wonderful, every time Jennifer you speak about why you've come into being a leader in the coffee farming and then through fair trade empowering others, other leaders and women leaders particularly and looking after your family in the communities, just so powerful. I mean I've always been committed to fair trade but I need to make it part of my life, daily life so wherever possible I will be buying fair trade goods especially Jennifer's coffee but also as a politician I would encourage all my towns in my community to become fair trade but as a minister I want to make sure that fair trade is right at the top of our agenda, our economic agenda, it's not a side issue. It's got to be right if you are a government which believes in social justice, you need economic justice as well so it's every aspect of the government I would want to influence and indeed that's what we do. So all of my colleagues in the Welsh Government, First Minister Mark Drakeford, I've mentioned today that fact we have a woman finance minister, we have a woman actually a minister, Judy James in charge of tackling climate change. I'm a Minister of Social Justice, it is a very much a woman led government to commit ourselves to supporting fair trade and that has to be personal and political. Some powerful stuff there Minister, it's an exciting time to be in Wales I think when you touch on the fact that we have a portfolio of climate change. Jennifer, how is climate change impacting you and the women farmers who work so hard to bring us our food every day? Sure, actually as farmers especially women we are facing challenges, we are on the forefront of the challenges because being a woman is very hard and you have to work hard so that you sustain the family. But if you are working hard and on the other hand climate change is impacting you, it's not a good. Climate change has caused many many challenges because we experience unpredicted weather. Sometimes you might be hoping to receive rain in time but you have a normal drought which affects our crops, mania and coffee. Being the cash flow at some other foods like bananas and maize beans and doing that cause we are experiencing pests which are attacking our crops. Made the coffee like me Jennifer the other year I produced 400 kilograms of dry plant. But this previous year it was only 300 kilograms, I lost 25% because of pests, because of overfledding. So if a pest attacks a tree you must make sure you will be able to stand to that tree so that it comes out again as a new crop. And not only again for some other families that are missing, they are like beer ones because of bad smell, some are missing the fatiguit of the soil. Like that we are at a threat. Top breaking isn't it? It is and I mean this is why it was so important Jennifer you and other women I say came to the COP26 and you spoke about the impact of climate change. We supported you coming speaking up because we also want to do everything we can to make Jennifer's coffee a success to get it in all the shops and all the cafes and restaurants but you are challenged as you said by climate change. Now we need to learn from that and we need to learn and we need to support you the flooding, the devastation to families. So my colleague Julie James meant to the climate change very aware of this as we tackle our own impact of our responsibilities for tackling climate change. It's for you that we need to look to to just understand and say oh you know what this sounds this is terrible we've seen the devastation but what is it that we can do to help you through this challenge? I mean 7% of global carbon emissions is back to Africa and yet they are right on that front line. They are receiving much more fairness in the impact of climate change. You introduced me to Topi, one of the farmers who have been identified as one of the most vulnerable on the mountain and because of that work that the co-operative had done you and your portfolio were able to fund a programme of decarbonisation and we have some solar lights to those farmers. Don't you Jennifer? Yes, mostly in winter we are still sticking to using kerosene because we have no electricity yet. Government has given us electricity but farmers can't manage paying for that electricity. So they will be connecting in the garden and they will be saying it can't be tough. Then we kept on using candles as Ellen is saying. Mainly we use candles in our homes and kerosene is a threat to our human lives and human health. We had to sit and discuss how to overcome this challenge of kerosene. Then we had to make an assessment of how we can decarbonise this kerosene and we came up with an idea of getting at least delayed solar to make sure that the first vulnerable families along the mountain can use. We identified 500 of them to be using those delayed solar. I am happy that Ellen bought the idea and bought it to the Welsh Government to reward for us. It disproportionately impacts women so they use the power thing. If your work is health benefitted and economic benefit they have 10% to 20% more impact economically now because of the support that we do through Wales and Africa. Of course the tree planting scheme. I mean it was so good yesterday when you came into our Welsh Parliament to meet all the politicians and all the different political parties everybody wanted to learn. That you could show us those solar lights that we have funded. I will be asked questions as Minister for Social Justice with scarce public funding money that you have. What are your priorities? I know as far as we have a lot of concerns about poverty and tackling inequalities in our own country but we have to look to what we can do. What impact can we make? And what investment can we have in Africa? Because of that shocking, 7%, we are responsible for climate change. We in the West and we got to back you. And to have such an example which is you say improves health and well-being, out dangers, averse danger. But also in your family's lives. But also something which will be productive, which will actually help with the coffee growing. We must publicise this. We need to get the message over, don't we? Absolutely. And that's the purpose of Jennifer's Coffee, isn't it? Women, farmers, front and centre established a social enterprise here in Wales with global outcomes and a market for your farmers. What message do you have for women in business or fertrade farmers around the world that look to you, Jennifer, to think? What message do you have? The message I have for the fertrade farmers and the audience that is doing together to fertrade family and my fertrade products to help the farmers in the gardens. And your message, Minister? Yes. Fertrade is so important. It has to come up for a bunch of our priorities, working with you and learning from you. And this is where let's all be drinking our Jennifer's Coffee, but also all of the other fertrade products, which of course will make a difference to the living in your lives, but also your children families and economies. Well, happy International Women's Day, happy fertrade for what rights do you have on that?