 Okay good evening everyone I understand that there's a problem with the chat this evening and someone's going to have to help me out with that one um presumably this means the comments over here um apologies for that if someone can fix it please do um we're a bit we think we're a bit short stuff this evening um hello everyone I hope you're all doing well um I want to talk about censorship tonight because we've had yet another example of our party being censored I'd wanted to get Frankie Arne to have a chat with me on the live stream so he isn't able to make it but I will have a chat with him and we'll get from him exactly what went on but um there was he's standing in a parliamentary by-election in Devon at the moment and there was a hostings planned in the week just a few days ago and not only was he not invited to it he turned up to be in the audience and he was removed by security from the audience wasn't even allowed to be in the room um this brings back oh there it is thank you whoever did that this brings me back to an evening that I've mentioned before but let me go into it we're going to in a little bit more detail I'm going to show you a video of it as well this is from a Lewisham parliamentary by-election that I was involved in no I've stood in a parliamentary election and Lewisham twice the first time I was I had people with me and there was there was a smattering of protest um one thing I noticed at that I did go to the hostings initially the first time I stood but one thing I noticed at that was there were people walking around um talking to members of the audience while I was sitting on stage telling them not to listen to me and that I was a racist and far right to know the rest of it the next time I stood things had deteriorated significantly um I'm going to show you a video of this where I was at the time I remember this so clearly when this is going on what I'm going to show you when this was going on I was in a mini bus with a few people from the party and with some security people and the security people at this time were on the phone to the police and the police were telling them do not bring her here um she can't come here this place will we won't we will lose control of the situation if she turns up um they told us that they were going to cancel it and in fact they told us that they had cancelled the entire event um but on twitter we could say that it was actually going on so we contacted the police again saying what this is you told us it was cancelled we would like to attend and they said no you can't so eventually they did actually pull the plug but quite a bit of time into it but it wasn't only outside that this was going on it was going on inside as well and one of the points to make before I show you this is that it doesn't it starts with with racist that's that's the first that's the first attack and it's not a process in silencing opposition to them it's a very left-wing thing to do they can't have a debate so they shut down and they're getting increasingly brazen increasingly violent and I'm going to show you another example from yesterday of this happening but it starts they start to pretend it's about racism so they have this sort of moral they give themselves this moral high ground um but it's about anyone who opposes them whether race is related to race isn't and 99.9 percent of the time race got nothing to do with it but we still call it racist but they'll go after anyone for any reason and it starts by calling them a racist and the other example I'm talking about is the standing for women activists known as Pote Parker she is probably the leading voice I've introduced you to her before I'm sure many of you know her anyway um and a very the leading voice on the gender madness that is going on she held a rally in Bristol yesterday and I'll show you a couple of clips of what happened there as well back to Lewisham so once again while this is going on I was sitting in a van being told to stay away have a look thank you very much um yeah I'm David Curtin I'm from UKIP I'm a London Assembly member so you may have seen me questioning Sadee Khan in the chamber in City Hall already now what I'm finding on the doorsteps is the two big issues here are Brexit and police and crime now Brexit is a big theme of the week there's the withdrawal bill going through Parliament at the moment whatever you think about Brexit whatever you voted for I think people understand that we need to respect the democratic decision of the people of this country and that means leaving the European Union leaving the single market and leaving the customs union we cannot live and the two main parties who aren't here today they're just represented by t-shirts they couldn't even bother to have their candidates turn up but with both of them they are selling you out on Brexit they are heading us towards a fake Brexit Theresa May in the Conservative Party is talking about a customs partnership or arrangement which will keep us tied into EU regulations for years and years to come the Labour candidate wants us to stay in the single market in the customs union and doesn't respect democracy because that is not what the people voted for the people voted for an exit from the European Union in full and you know that UKIP is the only party that will deliver it for you I always find it a little bit amusing when white people call me a racist back to what I was saying I've spoken about Brexit the other thing people are really really concerned about is police and crime Theresa May and Sadiq Khan conservative and Labour have both embraced politically correct policing where they've reduced stop and search and where they cut the number of police officers on the streets UKIP has policies to put 20 000 police officers back on the streets to be preventative community policing to cut crime which is out of control in London you know it makes sense to vote UKIP please look at our leadlets to find out more thank you I have to tell you that the police inspector has decided that he wants to close the meeting because of the public order dangerous outside can I just speak please he's worried about danger to people on the streets and he has decided that and it is within his power thank you very much indeed thank you thank you very much indeed thank you thank you thank you they are complete not cases right there is just so much to say about all that starting at the beginning the shouting at shame on you at people trying to attend the event so it's not enough to keep candidates away that they don't like they are trying to keep the audience out as well racist scum they're screaming it absolutely screaming it that you can the hatred the sheer hatred that they feel for people that they whose politics they don't share they don't disagree with their opponents they absolutely despise them to the point where they would happily happily commit violence against them these are the ones that have the media and the establishment on their side no one that I know has ever done anything like that I've certainly never done anything like that I've never threatened anyone I wouldn't threaten I wouldn't do that when I wanted to debate a discussion but if you looked at the press you would think I was the one that had organised that mob that it was the far right that was doing things like this and the reason I let that play through in fall was to show look what David Corton was talking about basic political issues there's no extremism they was talking about the EU and this was at a point where the majority had voted to leave the EU and yet he was disrupt chaos disrupted him speaking and he would think he was up there calling for genocide the way he was perfectly reasonably and moderately discussing a perfectly fairly ordinary political issue but because they oppose his party they disrupt him anyway and with shouts of we are against racism and this is really interesting I thought that racism was a manifestation of a reflection of white supremacy that only white people could be racist because it was all about structural power and white people have all the structural power how that is David Corton the racist he's not a white person he can't have white privilege and be a part of the white power structure I thought you couldn't be a racist unless you were part of the white power structure it's not it's not about racism there's nothing and everyone knows that nothing to do with racism that's the word they use to attack opponents as a starting point by the way just before I get on to Poti Parker in Bristol yesterday one more thing to say about that event was that Labour and Tory weren't there they both said both the Labour and Tory candidates said they wouldn't share a platform with me and so they weren't going to show up the it's so loaded that isn't it I am so toxic so awful that they won't stand in the same room with me so did they paint this picture of me as an absolute monster it is of course both characters and they don't what if what if I was actually able to attend and put them on the spot with something what if I told a few home truths about Labour and the Tories while we were all sitting there this wouldn't do and they're so arrogant that they don't think they have to turn up of course it's a it's a Labour Tory country it's going to be one or the other Labour probably assumed they had it in their pocket and yeah probably a safe assumption but they remind us in doing that the arrogance of it all that this is essentially a two and they're they're above it they're above all this this is a two-party country anyway so they don't even have to bother they don't have to try but what they do there primarily is add to the notion make additions to the picture painted by the press that I am an absolute monster right so on to yesterday in Bristol I'm going to read you an email that was sent out by posie parker name is kelly j kin I just always known her as posie parker so I just call it that automatically she sent out an email let me read a bit of it to you the name of the organization that she formed is standing for women she says standing for women organized a women's free speech event let women speak not a protest or a rally now just a quick bit of award on the let women speak there's a lot going on with the trans issue and a lot going on with regard to sport for example but when these meetings are held you will have meetings to discuss so for example swimming swimming they I'll talk about that a little bit in a minute but they basically bound trans women from computing in women's events and there is now talk that athletics will be next so progress being made there but in when they discuss these things it's trans rights groups and human rights groups standing for trans and the women are never you know women like posie parker never involved in these discussions and female athletes are never involved in these discussions it's always about the trans the female athletes are just forgotten so that's where they call it let's let women speak it's an event aimed at combating the silence in a women's voices and the on the erasure of our rights our spaces now language posed by the totalitarian transgender promoting ideologues our attendees are peaceful law-abiding concerned citizens mostly women we invite ordinary women to speak but we are a broad church we are apolitical and all women are welcome we refute the claims made by some media and even some separate police that there was bad behavior on both sides aggressive and threatening men were very close to our wardens and attendees they shouted obscenities in the faces of women and they tried to push through the police line they were physical confrontations by men in masks it went on from there so they were having this it's on what they call Bristol speakers corner they were having this little talk speak you're speaking standing up and speaking and masked clad in black masked men decided to come along and shut this down they went aloud because they are terfs trans exclusionary radical feminists now whether you're a feminist if you don't hook, line and sinker swallow every single utterance of the pro-trans lobby you are a terf and you can buy t-shirts saying kill the terf and this has been sprawl graffiti kill the terfs punch the terfs outright violence is threatened against terfs so this group of men reminded me actually of a similar occurrence in Los Angeles you might remember this say spa in Los Angeles and some women had complained that there was a man full nude in their spa room whatever these things are and they complained and they were told he was allowed so they protested women a group of women protested outside this spa and antifa again dressed in black masked came and attacked them so let's have a look at a couple of clips from Bristol yesterday this carried on after the event as well this group of women went to a local pub for a drink and they were followed there by these thugs masked thugs and the whole thing was shut down i don't think even think what they were able to finish their drink like let me show you a clip first of all from the speaker's corner or equivalent really don't know what's just happened they've just uh oh did you did you hear that they're running around the back okay okay so what you the second clip short clips the second one was a pub where they had gone afterwards for a drink and look look what happened all these women say is that people can't change sex they don't threaten anyone they don't call for any violence that's all they say they want this is a women's group they want women's private places kept women only that is what they want and just look just look at the chaos that followed them even when they went for a drink this is how fascist groups acted this is how fascist groups you only have to look at European history to see that this is the behavior leading up to fascist role in Europe in the in the 20th century you don't this insanity that is them calling other people fascists it's part it's part of the tactic i suppose but what's most frightening about it is that again they are the ones with the esports the unconditional support of the mainstream media mainstream politics the huge corporations all the educational institutions all the cultural institutions all completely unquestionably back what they what the mass thugs what they are fighting for they have the backing of the entire establishment and the the woman trying to say look this is dangerous to us if you're talking about toilets or dressing rooms or rape crisis centers it's dangerous for us for you to allow self-ideeing men to identify as women and come in to these places when in sport it's unfair we can't but they're the ones painted as the bad guy in this topsy-turvy crazy world that we're living in it is the extreme left using increasing violence to shut down all opposition what's interesting and i've looked at a few pictures from bristol yesterday and i've seen sprawled or scrolled in chalk or spray paint that posie parker is a fascist just because because of what i've described because she doesn't want men in women's prisons or women men in women's rape crisis centers she's a fascist and i've also seen written somewhere on a pavement in huge letters in chalk posie parker is a racist this this is not the first time i've heard that happen either you hear it with uh you know if people if people don't want to have a romantic relationship with a trans person it's the same so if a heterosexual man doesn't want to have a relationship with a trans woman it's the same as saying as a white person saying they don't want to have a romantic relationship with a black person you can see them doing this because they've made the word racist the worst description you can possibly be subjected to and they've then attached it to just about everything even things that's like women trying to not have to share rape crisis centers with men even that is labeled with the term racist because that's the worst thing you can be and they're telling you that this person is the worst thing um on that issue though there is news and i want to have a look at just a couple of articles on it the world's governing body for women has decided to exclude trans women i.e biological men from women's swimming events this is a surprise i wasn't actually expecting this to happen a very pleasant surprise um and it comes on the back of a controversial story out of america um of lia thomas i think his real name william thomas i think i'm right about that um um participating in college and sports and college in america is a big big deal um one of the reasons it's a big big deal is because people go to college or university on sports scholarships and therefore if they are unfairly disadvantaged in the sport it's putting them at a disadvantage in their ability to go to university at all so it's university college sports is a big deal in america anyway this um lia thomas william thomas uh was winning all around him in these swimming significant swimming events in in the us and that's only a few weeks ago um so this does come as quite a surprise but i just want to have a look at how it's being reported fina this is the bbc swimming's world governing body has voted to stop transgender athletes from competing in women's elite races if they have gone through any part of the process of male puberty fina will also aim to establish an open category of competition for swimmers whose gender identity is different than their birth sex so a lot of people have been saying this about the about sport that if trans women want to compete then start your own competitions um so the new policy which was passed with seven to one percent of the vote from 152 fina members was described as only a first step towards full inclusion for transgender athletes i'm reading that exactly as it's been reported the 34 page policy document says that male male to female transgender athletes could compete in the women's category but only provided they have not experienced any part of male puberty beyond tanner stage two or before age 12 whichever is later okay so in word sality way they're telling you there that um i don't know why it's a step towards full inclusion do you know what i mean i'm reading that directly you don't quite know what anyone's talking about anymore and that's not an accident either by the way so i call in um people who want a women's restaurant to be women only a racist nothing means anything anymore how is this full inclusion anyway so i you yeah so basically what they're saying is that if they were over the age of 12 before they started transitioning which most will be or for now anyway it's certainly this william thomas character um they're not able to compete so they must have started this thing transition before any before male puberty had set in it means that transgender american college swimmer leah thomas who has expressed a desire to compete for a place at the olympics would be blocked from participating in the female category at the games however oh here's the however the policy does not apply to national federations or the u.s college championships the ncaa is at which thomas recently won the 500 yard freestyle okay um so it really is it seems just to be the olympics um it's a step in the right direction it's an unexpected and pleasant step in the right direction and i saw on on the bbc this afternoon that actually i'll have i'll give it just have a look at it quickly lord coe hints athletics could follow swimming in banning trans women um world athletics president lord coe has hinted at it blah blah swimmer's governing body voted on sunday to stop the landmarks okay but we've we've gone through all that so there is some progress being made on one area small progress but progress which means that at some point we're going to have to start addressing the rest of it and arguably i would certainly argue more important than this more important than sport is the sex attacks happening inside women's prisons the rapes and sexual assaults happening in toilets and it is happening that's a little bit i don't know what does that tell us that we are more concerned about sport than we are about sexual assault um actually it kind of fits because our society doesn't seem to mind sexual assault anymore but this has to this is this we've got this has to stop this is absolutely disgusting and it's absolutely disgusting that we have these horrific crimes i i remember at one this guy had been convicted of raping a dog and was described in the press as not even trans woman but woman this is this is disgusting and arguably more important than sport but because it's more important it probably won't get the attention that it deserves to finish on this i want to repeat what i said to potie parker herself recently um on one of these i'd ask her again to think about those of us who have been attacked like this for a long time and also for fake reasons using fake labels they called you a racist for speaking up about the trans issue you're probably thinking because i can i can relate to this you're probably just bewildered by it and thinking how can this what you how can they but why aren't they listening i never said i mean you you try you know you think how can this be happening how can i be so attacked and it's not pleasant to have these gangs of of thugs threatening you it's not pleasant at all and i can totally relate to the fact that you're being called a fascist and a racist for saying something that is not only observably and provably true but completely fair and just and reasonable and moderate i know the feeling i really do i ended up speaking about starting out this with talking about sharia law and i knew just as you know that everything you're saying is fair and reasonable and true i knew that when i started talking about sharia law as well and you're saying this because it's deeply you're speaking up about this monstrous treatment of your sex i was doing the same i got called all those names back then and once it starts it snowballs it's like chinese whisper it just it you get worse and worse you're a bigger and bigger monster the more they talk about you this is how it starts but they're coming for you they came for me they're going to come for others if you don't agree with everything they say if you don't obey them you have even a mildly divergent view they're coming for you very very very dangerous territory we're in now and the police i said the entire establishment is on their side and the police is actually no different it's also on their side rapid deterioration i have witnessed myself a rapid deterioration in our political our ability to speak our ability to take to a stage our ability to stand for election our ability to attend a public event our ability to express our opinion is being oppressed and suppressed by force by masked thugs which have the state and the establishment on their side that's the reality in a nutshell right there okay i'm going to answer a couple of questions and then i got it going to finish off this evening with a guest um but let me go on to hear for us and see what we've got okay quite a few um okay yes it is the start of armed forces week today please wish our armed forces past and present a happy armed forces week especially our party members thank you very much john and of course i do um and i think we all do and we know how our party um feels about the veterans who for several reasons for the sacrifice for the patriotism even if they're not allowed to demonstrate or display that patriotism um but the treatment the treatment they receive is actually genuinely shocking um i'm surprised we're still allowed half and armed forces week to be honest with you um but we are going to be talking my guest which who i'll speak to in a few minutes we're going to be talking a little more about that thanks john oh come on oh it's fine right ah so mark has asked me what's your opinion of scummy anti-fire intimidate and proty parkers women in bristle in recent days um yeah i think you probably know mark what i think police need to actually police these events on both sides and allow actual free speech i agree um i don't think there's much of a danger though from posie parker and her um and a small group of women i really don't think that they pose the danger or any danger but the thugs threaten them really do i mean if anti-fire we're having this rally calling for calling for the restoration of the gulag give them time uh i don't think posie parker would show up with a mouse gone and a lot of thugs so it's a what very much i want to the police need to protect our freedoms what actually what they need to do is arrest these anti-fight and take them out of there arrest them on public order offenses and take them away and then stand around protective ring around posie parker and her group and make sure they're allowed to speak make sure the public is allowed to listen to them and make sure these violent masked thugs are taken away and charged with public order offenses that's what needs to happen it's a we'll need police for it but what are the police for we don't ever i mean i know there's a shortage of police but there's plenty of police for censorship din allen says these lefties tell me that women are safe and that rape doesn't happen then i post them links to this happen they continue to tell me it doesn't happen i mean what can you do yeah i i can yeah i know i know i know the frustration i know i really do you're not talking you're not we're not dealing with thinking intelligent people here we're dealing with mindless thugs um cockney brown this is lovely my mom's 86 and she's watching this with me and she instantly loves and says a motion in our eyes and sends a big cuddle oh hi cockney bryan's mom um so i don't know oh it is i do oh no i don't sorry i don't know your name i'm sorry um but hello and thank you very much for watching and thank you for that lovely compliment and i send you a big cuddle back thank you um ah right yeah this is marco i think i may have mentioned this before what time we on um but i highly recommend reading gulag archipelago it's standard reading as a warning of the horrors of communism i completely agree that is i have read that it is a difficult book to read but it is it's a difficult book to read because it is so horrific and i agree with you mark i don't think anything demonstrates the sheer horror and evil of communism quite like that book gulag archipelago i highly recommend it as well please ask amberie if boris johnson combs his hair with a balloon um yeah i haven't thought of it like that before but yeah that's pretty much what it looks like um oh the whole part of his it's all part of his facade isn't it his bumbling boris facade he's he's trying to appear all harmless and and oh boris he's uh and i do it myself remember soup soup claps into me once people could call an emboros makes him seem harmless and she's right but i just it again it's just an um constants high constants thank you brian um yeah calling him boris does let him off the hook a bit doesn't it just give him that sort of the same thing that his hair achieves that that bumbling he's not not at all all right so we've got 15 minutes let me welcome paul paul is going to have a chat with us about the work he does with veterans um which is of course relevant to it being armed forces week let me bring him in hi paul hello amberie how you doing yeah i'm good how are you yeah not too bad thanks thanks for coming on um thanks for having me it's lovely to meet you lovely to um i i don't know much about your story um i know you work with veterans and i know that we are an armed forces week this week um so i'm going to let you tell us what you tell us what you do where you come you're a veteran yourself um tell us about yourself and your work yeah no problem so i'll give you the five minute condensed version because i do talk for scotland for those that are listening you all work it out i am scottish um so my story is i'm edinburgh born and bred at the age of 18 i became a heroin addict i had run ins with drugs early on in life cannabis and alcohol was never really an issue but 18 heroin flooded into my area in edinburgh i became an addict that stole seven years of my life my addiction ended up on tablets and methadone using all the different kinds of drugs crack and i've just i've given up on life completely um developmental health problems depression to this point where i've become suicidal i had no longer no no longer wanted to live in this horrible evil world that we live in and i was tired so fortunately um 18 years ago on may the 14th i came off heroin so i've just passed my 18th year anniversary so what i done is i seeked help luckily i found help i turned my addiction to heroin and drugs to fitness i started pounding the streets of edinburgh like forrest gump every day and night with the music in my ears and and i started to become extremely fit i rebuilt my life basically i learned about my mind and i applied it to my addiction the course that i attended was nothing to do with addiction whatsoever it was about the power of the mind learning who paul bogey is learning about why i took heroin in the first place learning about you know me the way that i talk and the way i look i see myself in the mirror the way that i talk to myself in my own head and all that sort of stuff and i got fit i got a job back again i built my family relationships back you know i got clean everything was going great and then you know so that was 25 when i got clean and then approaching my 30th birthday i had this great idea while sitting in the staff canteen flicking through the paper army be the best in the newspaper i believed that my time to ever be a soldier had been in gone because the cut off age used to be 27 but destiny had it that i was i was destined to be a scots guardsman standing at side bucking on palace with my red tunic and my bare skin so i you know i went down basic training and cataract and everybody laughs as they do paul's gonna be a soldier ha ha ha you know old man um and as um my hard work had had it you know i was extremely fit i took a box in and weightlifting and i was still pounding the streets so i was fitter than all these 18 19 year old whippersnappers in basic training i was older than all the officers i'm older than all the non-commissioned officers i'm older than everyone basically this 30 year old guy and i passed out i've done nine months down in london um bucking on palace windsor castle town of london actually the keys to the london hope who goes there like i've done that you know and it was an amazing time and mary you know um i went back to cataract starting my pre-deployment training to go on my first tour going past otterburn um heading towards new castle serious car accident i broke my back i crushed my spine i'm lying in a field with my army friends and my full army combats and that was 2000 December 2011 that was really my army career was over before it really started because of my injuries um i got medically discharged in 2015 i get sent home back to edinburgh with a prescription of cramadol and codeine and valium and opiates and um i struggled mentally again and you know justifying it because the doctors is giving me the tablets now and i'm i'm abusing them and i'm getting wasted off these codeines um and that became my life spinal specialist told me i'll be on drugs for the rest of my life and i have to accept it so the beginning of lockdown i'm sitting my wife walks in she says you're going to be locked up for two weeks and i said oh what am i going to do i says well do you know what i'm going to do i'm going to write a book i'm going to write this book that i've been writing for 14 years i never thought i'd ever publish it so i started writing hero into hero and an amazing thing happened and mary when i'm sitting writing and i'm telling people how i broke my heroin addiction 18 years ago i'm re-educating and re-learning about the power of the mind because i'm writing about it and i'm reliving that that that life and how i've done that um and an amazing thing happened you know everybody's telling me i'm going to be on these tablets i'm telling myself i'm on these tablets and justifying it because of my crushed spine and i thought no enough enough is enough so i'm sitting here wallowing in self pity jealous feeling sorry for yourself and blah blah blah and this negative mindset that you've got that's only going to lead to depression you know that you've been here before you know in my own head we've been here so i came off all my drugs i'm like just over two years completely drug-free i don't take paracetamol for my for my injuries and you know i'm visiting now i'm visiting schools i'm visiting prisons all across scotland i donate every single penny from my book to homelessness in scotland you know it is a perception of people have that it's only veterans that i'm helping and it isn't you know it is the holy scotland i've i've came on i've been scrutinized a little bit um over the last two years on social media i'm sure you can imagine what social media is a minefield isn't it so but yeah all the profits go to homelessness in scotland i've raised just over 13 000 pounds on my own no publisher no marketing team coming on talking to people like yourself um other people my own videos sharing my story of how i got clean how i've sorted my mental health i've got a play at edinburgh fringe i'm headlining army at the fringe so like to be headlining a venue i'm from edinburgh i've never been to edinburgh fringe so to be headlining a venue like that um for the whole month of august where hero and hero is going to be shown to people from all over the world um it's just massively um special to me so sorry i was trying i was trying about five minutes here that was it i'm not in i'm not in mind to interrupt i'm really not i'm just i do have i have questions though um you did this is a little bit because i'm mad about this stuff so i have to ask you about it the the guard outside booking a palace how did that feel that must have been nice that uniform that pomp how do you feel about all that so you know i don't want to spoil too much because i want people to buy the book but i don't mind telling you right so my very first guard was at winsor castle yeah it was late july it was five o'clock i was at post number four which i believe is right in the back it was roasting now you may or may not know as a guardman when you get posted on you have so many paces to the left and so many paces to the right so you can shake your arm off right so i got posted on to winsor castle for the very first time and it was this is a crazy crazy experience i couldn't concentrate on anything else i was so fixated on i've got my beard skin on i'm a real guardsman and i'm standing like is this a joke is this reality i forgot how many paces right i totally forgot how many paces i was allowed now the queen comes out we lemonade real squeezed lemonade with the dogs sometimes for the guardsman so i'm standing there petrified thinking if i move and i go too many paces to the left or too many paces to the right and the queen sees me i am gonna get in big trouble so stand still that's what i've done for the whole two hours in that sun i stood like a statue um the heat i'll never forget the sweat was just running down my face that the bear skin had stuck to my head so it became so heavy um but i was just petrified so i stood there for two hours the sergeant come out um you know and he was sort of laughing with officer because i'd been standing there for two hours and that was a definite no no so i got a really hard time for that um the next time i'd relaxed a little bit i get put onto bucky on palace for the first time and it was a night time when i went on it was pitch black so i went up to the box helped check them to stamp my boot and went on to the post and i'm standing there on my side and that was when i started to really reflect on my life being a heroin addict thinking you know seven years ago i would be standing at the iron gates and the police would move me on for pickpocketing or something or a lens pickpocketing you know because of the way that i looked and here i am now on the other side we were in tunic standing there you know and i'll never forget it was quiet everything seemed quite quiet you could hear people over the iron gates you know the public and i'll never forget the standing there and i just pulled my boot slammed my boot down and the iron gates lit up like i've never experienced in my life and i'm the problem never will again just flashing just thousands of flashes all over the place and it was that realization that that was for me because i'd stamped my boot and broke my rifle i broke my rifle up to go march and i remembered my steps this time so i got 13 to the left and eight to the right so i remember you know one as i'm marching along and it was for me moving just this constant flashing um i love that as you can probably tell like i'm one amazing transformation what a great story um you mentioned the power of the mind i should be of what mind of the world for a little bit you mentioned the power of the mind now i completely agree with you and my own personal journey has had it's a lot of study and study is a word because it's it's a difficult subject to learn how your own mind works and how you can use it how do you we should the mind to me is a tool for us to use um if you can and i happen to know from experience that meditation has done more for me than medication for the same issues it really has um what would you say and i know this is a huge question difficult one the most important thing if you were to tell people what you think the most important lesson about the mind and the power it has what would what would that be learn what it is yeah what like i speak to addicts every day i speak to adults every day i mean i when i when i talk about self-talk which is something that i've been doing my whole life but only over the last 18 years of a learn what that actually is decision making the sort of person i am person i want to be all this conversation that both of us are doing right now everybody that's watching you right now you're all doing it by the way just to let you in yeah that's your mind this conversation and it's how we use that to um influence our life in a positive way but also a negative way and unfortunately you know addicts use it in such a negative way but um i talk about self-talk and i get inundated with messages what is self-talk and when i talk about the mind we hear about the mind we hear the word mind thrown about willy nilly to everyone mind the people actually genuinely understand what the mind is and how much a tool it is for our happiness our sadness our anxiety our grief our um everything who we are everything that we put you know controls everything and you hear the expression that the mind controls the body you know and i'm sitting i'm sitting right now i'm sitting proof of that because i don't take any drugs from the doctors i know for a fact the pharmaceutical companies hate me they hate everything that i stand for um because they make bullies their pounds prescribe and drugs to people and it's a cop-out they want us to be sick yeah and and it's this this you know i've got i've got doctor friends who say that the vast majority of their day is sitting right right in prescription for mental health patients not sitting and working out the issues of the person it's more go to the chemist you know and take the drugs and it's unfortunate like you know the veterans you know i was up in Aberdeen um last year handing out military sleeping bags to the homeless you know and i came across the veterans up in Aberdeen sitting there and you know see when you talk to the to these guys um they're angry they're angry at the government because they've been left you know when they were in the army and i can relate to that when you're in the army you're party something you're special you have problems the army fixes it you know you've got your number and that's it when you leave the army you are forgotten um and that's the harsh reality and so many have slipped through the net and they're angry and they use drugs as a coping mechanism for being on the street you know and that's it's it's just such a a horrible shame that we're living out the world where i think money fixes so many problems um but there's so much greed and corruption in this world that i don't i don't know forever if we're ever going to get there but you know i mean i speak to even the homeless people giving them five ten minutes and i tell them who i am and you know i've got a book here and i'm trying to help you with the sale of my book and you know and i talk to them about their addiction problems some people go to the doctors and end up you know put on tramadols and codeines from the the end up on heroin drugs they end up on heroin because they're opiate you know the same it's the same so they end up being heroin addicts and and it's just you know for me it's difficult to speak to a homeless person who feels like they've been forgotten who's using heroin as a way to cope for being on the streets it's difficult for someone like me who lives in a house and drives a car you know to walk up to them and say do you know about your mind yeah no no no you know they they they don't want to engage they're not wanting to engage amir at all and that's and that's unfortunate so i think lots has to be done but yeah the mind is the mind is everything and you know and what i would say to people is be conscious of your mind if you're not sure what your mind is educate yourself and there's loads of ways that you can do it to educate you know there's a lot you go on youtube and actually learn about what is it they will talk about self-talk the power of positive influences in life negative influences in life subconscious the creative subcode and all this sort of stuff you can learn about it you know you spoke there about meditation meditation is another great tool you know in meditation people think right he's going to sit there with his legs crossed you know and it just isn't like that it's it's a way of um un unburdening ourselves when things get tough if we can go into a safe happy space in our mind which we can do and taking that time out time away it can have such a big impact and influence on our life when we come out of the meditation things are never you know things don't have to be as bad and dramatic and severe as what we build up in our own mind sometimes and meditation just sort of releases it and you know so don't always believe everything that the doctors and tell you because medication is not the answer it's like putting a plaster on a broken leg sometimes and you know short term fixes are great right you know to escape your reality yeah swallowing a hand fake coding or some valium and you know in your spaced out and then addiction gets a hold and that's a whole different kettle of fish is breaking addiction so just be careful with the doctors um they want you on the tablets they absolutely do Paul amazing amazing story i might have to i might have to have you come on again um i would throw a bit longer um yeah anytime the mind i could talk to you about all night i think the most important thing just to that i've learned in the last few years of is that we can like you know that the when you talked about the self talk and you talk about the voice that is constantly going and going and going i think the most important thing i've learned is that you can actually stop that voice and you can make it say what you wanted to say so it can tell you negative things or it can tell you positive things you actually control what it tells you i think that's the most most important thing i've learned about the mind and i think it's the secret to what you wanted life is training that to say what you wanted to say yeah i could talk to you about this all night honestly they'll get me started just before we go um can you tell us people where they can get hold of your book and if they can if they want to speak to you further do you do talk you go and do talks and so could you ask you to come and talk to them about these things so my books on amazon i the the paperback the a book the audio book is read out by um prisoners at hmp perth they read a chapter in my book because i was in visiting them for people that were had the dyslexic and stuff were asking me if you've got an audio book and i thought i'm going to get the prisoners to do it and they can read it so that's all on amazon i do talks on my social media um mainly on facebook poll book author page i'm on there and i do many talks i do specific drugs that i've struggled with and antidepressants which are no no for me methadone i'm not a supporter um codeine tram and all how to be be careful about what you're putting into your body because they are dangerous drugs pre-gabble and gabapenta so i do sort of the videos like that i do mental health ones as well where i talk about self-talk the power of the mind um trying to teach people what that actually is and how we can use it to be um like you said you know we have control actually you know and when people understand and believe it that we actually i do have control the world is ever oyster you know and that's true so i'm i'm i'm living it so trust me it is absolutely inspirational thank you so much thank you so much i've really really enjoyed that i hope i get to meet you um and i can talk to you more about this i really do i can have a cup of tea amir you know anything inspirational yeah i'd love to i'd love to thanks very much paul and where are you on facebook is the best place to find you i've got instagram i've got twitter i've got tiktok i've got youtube if you put in paul bogey i'm pretty much on all the social media platform p-o-g-i-e yeah yeah that's the one yeah paul thanks very much you're an inspirational i mean that and well done i congratulate you thanks for coming on pleasure absolute pleasure thank you well i'm so glad you did that i feel really good that's lifted me quite a bit that has it was great conversation and i could talk about that online um right thanks very much everyone um for joining us i shall be back in a couple of weeks time um what's going on yeah if you can help frankie frankie's election of course is this week this thursday is election day for frankie if you can help him give him a shout um and give him give eight last push he's been working really hard bless him he really has so good luck to him okay thanks very much everyone i shall see you very soon and as always take care of yourselves um see you soon