 Welcome everybody 6 15 are pretty close to and at this time we'll ask if anyone has any additions to the posted agenda yet My name is Carl Grappi. I'm on the Rochester Stockton School Board. I wanted to discuss the Select Board on the state of the education tax Numbers and discuss Okay, all right and I'd like to resolve my water bill. All right. Anybody else? Nope. So then we'll start off and verify that this meeting has been posted in three public places, right and on the website and and email to interested parties, so We're warned and you can go ahead and have this meeting legally So we'll start off with the minutes from the last Select Board meeting of July 22nd as printed up And I've moved to accept these is recorded. I will second that on favor. All right. All right and then we also have minutes from the special Select Board meeting of July 19th and That was in regarding the line of credit going into with Mass Goma Bank to deal with the grant Anticipation borrowing for the Bethelmont Road project and I'd vote to accept these minutes as typed up All in favor And One more small set of minutes also on July 19th And that was meeting with Dubois and King to open the bids for the Bethelmont Road project Which we did and we awarded to GW Tatro construction for two million two hundred seventy-three thousand one hundred and eighty-eight dollars and And off they go. There's a couple smaller ones that well That's who we awarded it to and we had three bids. That was the Lowest and I don't know if we need to it's all in the minutes, but the other bids were but that was the I'd move to accept those All in favor And And I guess we'll Those But why don't we start with Carl you came the farthest and So I'm sure everyone's aware that We said a tax rate Based on normal practice, which is we get an enrollment count from the state around the beginning of the year We use that to build out a budget Which we did and people people passed the budget had Just under a three percent tax increase in it Towards the end of May the agency of education Changed the number of enrollment reducing now basically reducing our student count by about five percent which added close to a quarter million dollars of Additional money that needed to be raised because you raise money based on the number of kids The more kids to spread dollars over the Less the money is They reduced the number from about just under 180 179.8 to 170.3 That added the money that I spoke of as well as push the town Education rate in the penalty We have appealed that we've gone through and we've we had people from both Rochester and Stockridge going over all the Census years the student enrollments for the last three years for both schools And we've challenged the number of they found some more students. They say they Agreed that these students were dropped off some students were dropped off the rolls They won't have an accurate count. They expect till the end of the month We've talked to our legislator said he has been incredibly helpful as is Dick McCormick And what the secretary of education is that he very much wants to see the the accurate tally done and There's hope in the in the agency of education that that will put things back to just about where we were If not maybe a little bit better maybe a little bit worse, but in that Spit and range that original number in which case We would just readjust the bills The secretary of education has indicated that should the number end up short given that the the Information was by law supposed to be given to us As I mentioned at the beginning of the year and changing it night upon the beginning of June Really isn't the most culture of moves There's some there's some ways the secretary is looking at being able to move the rate and hold taxpayers harmless For that but we'll know more about that at the end of the month He's not willing to really discuss that until he really knows that the number that the state provided was was actually pretty far off In Stockridge, we have the same tax payment schedule that You guys do August 15th November 15th or no, you're We both have a first day of August 15th. Yeah In Stockbridge our second payment is in November and it's always been time policy not to assess a late fee Until monies are delayed past That November payment so in Stockbridge the feeling is that if people wait We either pay Some people said they want to pay based on what they could pay last year other people will just pay the first half of their bill because they can afford it And then settle up on the on the back end if the amount is reduced there was there was some people told me in Rochester in general of the policy is to Charge a late fee on that first half Tax payment if it's not received by August 15 and be I think it might be might be a good thing to Push that back I don't think we do charge a late fee and We charge interest but no late fee until it's the the final fourth payment is Overdue, so yeah, you know, I'm not sure what the AOE Told us to do or told the school board to do last week was to come to the next like board meeting and Raise a question with you It's not our We don't have Well, there's no there would be no late fee related to this first payment and extensively the the Billing will be straightened out by the time the next bill like the next cycle comes by so This this payment would be inflated by a quarter of the mistaken amount. Yeah, basically, which is is something but I mean it's No, what are your thoughts on it? No, I don't think if he should be oh, yeah, we don't have a fee I guess the question is would we Suspend interest but actually the the lion's share of the tax payment would be legitimate tax bills So, you know, I don't know if it's There's no real penalty involved coming up yet So I think it probably be cleanest just to leave it how it is and then if people pay it had more now Then they're gonna have to pay a little bit less than the next Subsequent payment Yeah, there's some people in stockers that often have No, thanks for the information I guess I'm just curious it's Well, why did they change the count of students if you guys presented them with that information? Where did they come about to change that right they um, so the state is is changing to a whole new student longitudinal data system So they're moving into a different database and it changes I guess how that number is Calculated and assess that it's not just a straight head count per se. They It's like a high school student counts as 1.13 of an elementary student because they're harder to educate If you make you qualify for free and reduced lunch, there's a Mallory adjustment to help Schools that have a large collection of those students We really don't have any English second language learners, but there's another adjustment for that preschool kids count as like 0.6 So in so the Database it takes all the different attendance information Yeah, and then it calculates that number and then a portion's out like the tuition students that are you know The kids that from Rochester to go to Middlebury or go to Sharon Academy right credit it to Rochester and not counted for Middlebury's counter or the Sharon Academy's council the system I guess is complicated to try to bring that information together and it's just not the transition going for And you know that the agency is lost a quarter of their personnel. They were telling us in the last In the last few years since the 2008 Big big recession and government layoff. They've just been dropping personnel So apparently part of reason for example, it's it's it's going to be late to the end of the month is the people that The guy that really does this job is I mean it's taken so long to do this because they kind of have training on the new system to understand how the new system is is incorrect and I just have a question I'm not going to have a lot of space to do Because there's so many people are tonight so kind of it in a nutshell basically am I correct in saying that You repeal you peel the agency of education's original Decision and now they they've got they've made another count and discovered that there are actually more children in our district Or they gave they gave us lists of students by name for each of the last three years for Rochester and for Stockbridge We've been going through in confirming who those students are what students may be missing And submitted that information back to them out of those six so Enrollments of a two-year rolling average so I was so for to do the last two years of Enrollment requires the last three years of student counts right they gave us all the names We've gone through and corrected giving it back to them. They've looked at one of those six censuses and that sentence they found they found Four in our direction they assume that they think they're going to find similar information on the other ones Which is why they say they'd like to wait before it But they've appealed we appealed and they've given us indications that they that they understand their numbers incorrect Their number of students will go up so the amount you'd be assessed would go down Right we or would be back to the number they gave us Okay, all right, so that would be reflected in our tax skills if that's true that Faking lower than the ones we just got correct, right. Thank you Marvin you had a question out of the 10 or 12 school in This supervised reunion why is Rochester and Stockbridge always the follow guy I? Wonder that myself a lot. Thank you Ask the superintendent Yes, the superintendent We have had some fairly strong conversations with the central office about the communication Getting getting to us in a timely timely manner You know if we had known sooner we could have for example come to the select board and say maybe one hole off on the tax bills But instead of the problem being revealed to us when the tax bills were mailed out and actually the Stockbridge clerk Called one of the Stockbridge board members and said this isn't where we voted on so there wasn't community There there was not good communication from the central office to the school board to to give us time to let people know what's going on And you're the extra credibility. No other schools in this district. I've had this problem No, there's been some problems in One of the school districts around Rutland has had a similar this had a similar problem I want to say Somewhere down in Wyndham, and they've had we've been reaching out to other districts find out how big The problem is and whether all the decisions have had it and there have been a few It's mostly the students of retuition Part of the thing that I think confused the agency a lot of the names that we saw that were missing Were the last year the Rochester Operator of the high school and we'll board tuition now those kids That that already wanted to go somewhere else for that last year They think some of those names were a lot of the kids that got dropped. So, you know, because Technically what they may not have been trying to capture those kids because technically Rochester was operating high school so That's the you know, that's at least what they're working on. They haven't been able to give us a good explanation of Why other than new database, you know, don't understand Are you getting part-time employment No, I'm well, I got to come to Rochester. It's just a lack of work meeting. So yeah The alternative is that people show up in my house with pitches important torches and pitchforks Wondering why they're tackled so much higher Yeah, well appreciate you coming and Yeah, well go take up some more time at the supervisory Union for us Well, while we're talking about Bills, Mary Beth, you want to talk about your water bill Roughly a year ago So I came over and said I don't remember everything Terry that I think you can read the meter a few times I'm trying to figure it out and he at the same time also talked to my housemate Jerry when I wasn't there one day and said I think you asked me if the toilet was overrunning, right and Jerry said no Because he interpreted that as is your toilet running like you can hear As soon as we got the bill we had already gone around the house and looked for leaks and for water things so I Have forgotten how many letters and how many bills later, but it eventually turned out that Terry came back when I was there and he said So we're running this if you want to come look and he said sure and it turned out what he was Talking about and what we were answering. No, two were two different questions And it turns out that if you take the top off the Tank of the toilet and the water level is even with the pipe that the water would go down Into mm-hmm overruns that pipe and causes it to run out of time and that was the problem So it wasn't to the point where you could hear it, but it was Float misadjustment or Yeah Hundreds of dollars worth of Having a hard time coming up with hundreds of dollars extra I just talked to Terry and said what do I do when he said we'll talk to the More just explain was a learning curve You shouldn't be charged any interest while this is being worked out Yeah, and so I've sent several letters and just not heard from anybody and I In one of the letters, I said how about if I pay an average amount for this month and I sent that check along And another one of the letters I said how about if I write an educational brochure for you is that you can send it out to taxpayers So that they don't get the same position, right? I just not heard from anyone and I just want to get a result Looking for some relief on that. Yeah Well, usually in that what we're gonna say I can say what how much over is is the bills been percentage-wise I Don't know the percentage line And normally is it's about a four times increase Terry do you have any other comment on this? I mean, I Don't think it wasn't water meter. They're actually using the water. So right we've had you know, she's not first one I mean We've had this issue with someone else in the village Yeah, several I mean I don't know I got relief Yeah Yeah, really bad, right I think that what we've done in the past is to kind of split the difference on the bill. Yeah, so not just Give it all to you. But but you know We I think we had discussed, you know, the owner needs to take some responsibility for maintenance and we Also would compromise as well like doing just that meeting the middle somewhere It's not a bad idea So that's not good to you Thank you go home and have a glass of water Dinner You want Well, I guess a lot of people are probably Interested to hear about the project progress on Bethamata Road Joan, do you want to get any updates for us or what's what's on your plate? We have So we need permission from the landowners to allow us to either do temporary work there or on some cases most cases to install permanent Structures, drainage structures that would remain in place and be maintained by the town Going forward and so for that we need easement from these folks and so that Negotiation has been going on with four landowners One landowner has signed another landowner is has four signatures and three of them have been signed on the fourth one It's going to be happening next week. So those will be in place two others Are in discussion phase still sort of discovery on their part. They're both absentee owners So they live in Massachusetts in Connecticut and so are not sort of on the spot and Knowing, you know on a day-to-day basis what's happening and what happened to that's a mountain road and also there's been some revisions that need to be to their right-of-way plans due to Some survey work that was done that realized that a property boundary was in the wrong place and therefore Some of the work that was done is actually on the adjoining property instead of on theirs And then in addition there are some revisions being made to the plan to make Sort of field conditions discovered while the work is going on which made the design the engineers Realize that there's probably a way to install one of the structures. So there are some changes going on before those are ready to be signed While work has been underway since last week I'm clearing as all the trees and Vegetation is pretty much finished and I just started chipping all that today That's going to go on for another couple of days before that's over. I mean, while some of the drainage structures They started to work already on the slopes With a lot of equipment and machinery they're purchasing the rock from Glory and Horry Hill, so they're probably seeing a lot of trucks going in town Moving pretty much in a clockwise Situation to try and keep traffic, you know, not all on one road at the same time So loaded trucks will start at the quarry go up North Hollow Road And come down to Bethel Mountain Road from the top and then the empty trucks the most part coming from the bottom You know, I threw the village and back up to for you for to load up So I think you want to add to anything I think you've got it, okay We now do have a signed grant agreement with the state the amount of the grant is two two million three hundred seventy nine thousand nine hundred and sixty nine dollars and that's just for the lower part But we're calling site one There still has to be Agreement reached on how much work is going to be done at site two, which is the upper part of Bethel Mountain Road About the barriers Through the intersection not to almost to the to the town That's supposed to be happening this week and there was some back and forth about whether Who was going to be doing all the preparation work the design work and the cost estimating the bidding and all that stuff like it Was done for site one at first. It was going to be Du Bois and King and then Be trans decided that made more sense for the district for folks to be doing that So that's where that stands at the moment And so they have to come back another time to take a look at the extent of the work come up with an estimate of the cost What they will probably be doing is instead originally we thought we would do all the work That's required there on a permanent basis meaning stone line ditching and Shoulder work paving and there's some new culverts I need to go on to the road and then the headers and the out inlets and outlets for those for those culverts as well so repairs I think the existing culverts and Based on a last conversation I had with Chris bond from district for he feels that it's going to add up to too much money Given the amount of money. We're already getting for site one He wants to try and limit the amount that we're asking to add to the grant for Sorry, so it would be too much Grant to expect to get from the Federal Highway Administration to do all the work that's required on site two So what he's going to be proposing and this still isn't finalized What he's going to be proposing is to do the work that's really needed to button things up for the winter which would be stone line ditching and the shoulder work and some paving and Leave the core work the additional culvert work for a grant that we could apply to the state next year So he's trying to keep the number down Du Bois and King had estimated a really high number for doing all the work. It was something like $900,000 which sounded like an awful lot to Chris and sounds like an awful lot to us as well So that's part of the reason why I think it was handed back over to Be chance of time come up with a better number that We're likely to be funded I think that's all I really need to discuss on Bethlehem I think we have 24 sites and Sort of a team of Julie myself and Cooter have been working with the FEMA folks We've had one phone call with them so far Where we've gone and we started to populate a spreadsheet Which gets a great deal of information on all the different sites what the status is how much money has been spent on them So far how much of that as emergency work how much of it is going to be permanent work still to be done Over the next could be a couple of years and We're calculating the amount of labor that's gone into it so far as well as the contracts materials, etc. And They're coming back tomorrow to go through the spreadsheet with us and they'll probably be a lot of questions back and forth And After that, I don't know exactly what happens But I think after that they start going out with her and actually looking at each one of these individual sites and figuring out which ones Well, I think they all qualify for assistance. The question will be the extent of the repairs that they will pay for And The only other thing I think I need to mention tonight is bingo road repairs Turner and I that with the Forest Service week before last and They agreed pretty much that it made sense to do a temporary relocation of the road around the area That's sliding into the brook and moving it just maybe about 15 or 20 feet off of where it is now and then Long return basis of our permanent basis We make a larger detour To take the road further away from where the stream basically wants to move in this direction And so the route the road has to move further away in that same direction So that we will continue to have a problem there going into the future We thought we might qualify for a VTrans emergency grant for that temporary repair Which Cooter is estimated to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $21,000 But we don't it's actually because it's it's we're asking for too little money The way they explained it is that if you take the The non-winter budget that we did on our financial Plan that we submit every year. It has to be more than 10 percent of that budget in order to qualify because the 10 percent represents the amount that the town would be paying anyway Because an emergency grant typically the state pays 90 percent and the town comes up with 10 percent And since our $21,000 didn't meet the 10 percent threshold We don't qualify for a grant So So when we do the wider more permanent detour that will that would be more than 10 percent Well, that won't be an emergency grant at that point So Approach the idea with the Forest Service of when it comes time for us to do this more permanent Relocation which could be several years because the idea is with the temporary It'll be a fix that'll last for maybe as long as five years And that'll give us the time to figure out get the plans done because it's going to be you know much more than engineering Design work than it is for a temporary and maybe the Forest Service guys You know at least the ones we talked to on the ground say makes a lot of sense But they couldn't really give us a firm answer at this point and maybe things will be different by the time We're ready to actually do it So I've already submitted a special use permit to do the temporary work Prick it when she finds some time within the next couple of weeks will be doing some very simple drives That's all we have to do to submit and then we'll be ready to go on that And then the question will be put her off to decide what just give me a sec Clear off to decide whether he wants the town crew to do the work or whether it's going to make more sense to contract Marta you had a question I can never take quite as fast as the people I'm sorry, and I just want to make sure to summarize this I'm a little confused here regarding bingo road repairs you and John have met with the Forest Service and everyone agreed that If he to work on bingo road make sense basically a relocation of a section of the road Okay relocation of a section of the road They sense When repairs are being done or when that would be the repair is to take oh take the road farther away from the road They're gonna let the stream do what it wants to do so we're Stepping aside section of the road to make it further away from the broken sense right and then the road the current road that would be restored Being That's thank you. Thank you. Yes Yeah And I was waiting to go into my driveway When somebody comes flying around the car and had to stop because they didn't want to go through the holes in front of our driveway Is there a possibility that there might be a sign on the other side of the curb that says danger ahead or something? Because it's an accident If you know you're with where she's talking about right? No. No, right? No And across from Terry's every and our driveway There's a huge kind of a lot of hole, but it's about just As we're speaking it is singing so it used to be this big So people coming from the other side from the avoidant that going into them They fly Drive on the wrong side of the road basically coming down. Yeah, I've had a lot of those calls if I hadn't been pulling in my driveway They come right down on the wrong side of the road hundred percent And it's interesting, you know It's an accident Thank you Yeah, yeah, it's um hard to fix stupid driving but But it's hard to fix stupid driving Yeah Well if people are going out of their lane, yeah, but I thank you for bringing up I mean filling in the a little more gravel So it's not so much of a dip but people are still gonna probably swerve over, you know, even though it's a blind curve That's stupid. There's nothing you can do about that. No, yeah Until we get the work done and get that paved, you know, that's really the only way that's gonna change that I guess if we do have some caution signs, it wouldn't hurt to put something up, you know the blind curve, you know Yeah No, thank you Yes Yeah, I realize but who owns the dirt that's in that curve Send the town right away Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, but you have to get out the right way to move that No Thank you No, and maybe somebody looking on orca media will say boy, I'd do that on that road Maybe there's several spots on the other side where people have to also go. Yeah Everyone's used to that being a paved road and then they get a little iffy when there's gravel All right Thank you, Joe The culvert work on the upper part So that probably I don't have anything else you want to talk about on the highway topic or it seems like we've talked about a lot of highway topic Harlan Harlan, yeah Right about where my gardens the upper part of my garden is a whole world is probably this big around every time it rains The water goes down It's two feet in the road And keep a couple times I try to fill it up with rocks and shit But it's not working And it just you know It's going somewhere. It's below my driveway. They don't think it's an ulcer I've never known a culvert there. It's like The upper end of my the upper end of my garden. If you come up, I'll show it We're headed in that direction. We'll be there a month or so over there And Terry anything updates on utilities that you want to Be gonna have we got a test for PFS I want to school by Friday on it quite Quite detailed on how to take the same form really bad And if we fail It's not good at all, right And you you're testing things to the 20 parts per trillion State guy says if it's about a trillion miles to the moon, so if you go four inches you fail Towards moon, so I mean it's really you're testing for five different chemicals and You can't I mean you don't you can't wear so you gotta have like cotton clothes They have to be washed me six times To do it. No deodorant No vortex shoes or anything. It's really a lot to it What's the investment in equipment necessary to do these tests? No equipment. There is not it's just sampling and sending right and the only places it can go there's two labs and Massachusetts to live in Florida and to live in California. So and I can't handle it No, but that one's I'm going through because they'll set up and they're running shuttles every day three days we to Boston to Place so and they'll set me up for the right cat to do it Okay, and they'll help me out as much as they can You have to do a trip They get they send you a bottle here and empty bottle with chemicals in it You dump it in here and just going through the air could fail So that's a pre pre test one So if the pre test fails, then they won't do the same one on the other in process or like around six hundred dollars for a How often is this test being done? It depends on how much you test if you test Under 18 we can go three years You test between 18 and 20 every orderly and If it goes above 20 20.5 is a failure Then you'd be told not drink a water at all Where do you take your samples? They got to be taken at the well site With both pumps running and it's got to come back in Have we ever had any trouble with anything like this? We've never ever tested for this Legislature just passed it on to I won and you gotta have it done by the sun won And there's no funding for it Unlike lead and copper for the schools a good test every faucet in the school that Kids can either wash your hands or they wash food It said there's ones and each one has had two samples taken And there's quite involved with that, but we do not have to do that. That's totally up to the school But there's money for that So Terry you said this testing that you we have to do for the town has to be done by December 1st Correct. Okay. Thank you. Every every town has to do it And a lot of them squawking because you know the ones I got to test like three times that's gonna hurt your budget So when all I'm gonna do it in this next week. Yeah, I've got to take some samples So I mean we don't stop and I didn't get Because you know me you got four days from the time you get the stuff up to do it And get it back where you gotta keep it within Six Celsius, where are you getting this supplies right through the end? That's the only place you don't get You know even have a chance And it's just that one one sample at the pump house Yeah, yep They got to be put in individuals bags and then put in other bags Like the ice you can't use any of that blue voice or anything like that It's gonna be regular ice in a freezer bag You get a wrap everything in Probably fail This was pretty that says It is well worth going to the school for that. Yeah, I wouldn't even dare to do it Yeah No way I mean the state people were there everybody was there There's This is the same thing they tested down in Bennington The private wells failed but the water system did not fail And They get out so I mean That's one thing they found but no the only other place they've done is where they did it before around right again Burlington But you know we get you get cemetery to cover a well, so I don't know what goes down that You know About you know not wearing Anything could fail it and even they said You're not supposed to use shampoo or anything that one No, that's why you do the sample before The oneness They call it you know, but in there so when it fails Then they won't do the test That means and it could fail because the air in the pump out So that stuff is that pervasive right well 20 parts per billion after or trillin has a lot of zeros And you're testing for five different All right Stay tuned So your blank test that you do just to test the environment then that has to go Long as all and then they'll test that Blank part first and if that fails and they won't do the other one. Oh, okay So they both both samples go at the same time. Yeah, all right So, excuse me, Terry. You said you were gonna start doing this next week in my clinic. Yeah, it's only one day. Thank you Okay, so you're doing one day next week So nobody exhale near the pump out All right, so hopefully we pass and yes, we'll want to worry about three years All right, um going to um We've got one bid for roadside mowing so let's open it and see what we got and this is from music mountain property maintenance and um stock bridge and he's um bid $14,950 And it's um two machines one with a six inch ditch bank mower one with a five foot Or a six foot Ditch bank mower one with a five foot over the rail mower 22 foot reach Mowing to be done as laid out by the town of Rochester um One two or three passes as requested and to be completed by september 27 And and he will provide proof of insurance on being awarded the bid so What did we budget for that that's pretty close to what we budgeted for that, isn't it? Yeah, I think we yeah We got this contract once before and yeah, I think it was less than that. I mean quite a bit less than that, but No, I thought it was Here we go. It's around that a couple years ago Was it 13? Yeah, yeah Got it in the budget. I guess I'd moved to accept this bit Get the roads mode. I was second to add at this point. At least we don't have to mow um both of them on roads There's some roads that I took out that are Yeah And we have the list right we have the no-mo list the no-mo list no mo list Jam can and all right We have to make sure he gets that list gets that list. Yeah, right If somebody doesn't want to be mowed a normal sign works the last Yeah done that piece of paper So I believe you seconded that I did all in favor All right, all right I'd like to make a comment. He did a very good job last year. The best job we've had for many years. Long time. Yeah We've got it right on it. Yeah All right, that's good feedback. Thank you. Alrighty. Um, Jeffrey, do you next on the agenda here? You want to make some noise about some noise? Hi, I'm I'm Anthony. So I'm Janice Melvin by everybody. We live in the first school house And we just wanted to bring to your attention some owner's noise problems I guess they got an approval through their legal license and they've been Having a fair amount of noise and they believe that they can go on until midnight So for me until midnight we I wrote you a letter. We put in at least three Incidences where we've had them there've been more than that There's the folks out on the lawn their feet tables out there We've gone over there to say, you know, it's gone on from 10 o'clock 1145 to a.m We can't sleep It's it's rather loud and when we brought it to their attention They basically told us they have a piece of paper that says they can do anything they want until midnight Which doesn't seem fair or reasonable or it's also closed especially in the summer when the windows are open Uh, you know, they've been saw their little things like dogs barking constantly and so forth although that may have dissipated a little bit They've been a cute dog over there So we wanted to know if there was any kind of redress Is there a noise? Level that people should be more cognizant of what their neighbors have to put up with after a period of time Most places that's an o'clock or so And so we don't know Can they make any amount of noise until midnight or not? Okay. No, they can't make any amount of noise They don't have license to make all the noise that they they want to in the world factors. Um I think it's um 13 vsa 1 0 2 2 is the state statute which is the Noise in the nighttime statute, which is what it's called and Basically, they're not allowed to be making any unnecessary or offensive noise after dark between From dark till dawn is basically where that Rule applies, you know, and it's um Basically, it's I think that it's Well, it's last meeting we had someone from the Huntington house here now. We have you here I think really what would be great is to I I understand you've gone and talked with them You know like yeah, maybe be good if one of us could be with both of you and really, you know Have a another conversation about this and try and work something out because it's um, you know, they're um You want to sleep and and they want to Conduct a business and it's they are responsible for People that are consuming alcohol on their property and they're they're responsible for controlling them and and not allowing offensive And disturbing things to happen. So it's um, it's You know, they're they're not correct in saying they can do whatever they want to midnight. That's not right Yeah Because there was one incident and because we are so close we could hear it was And there was There was a man shouting at a woman in a very offensive way And we were very worried about this woman's um well-being And so and there was a couple of other instances where there's been fairly um always stress kind of drunk Loudness So we're just concerned also that people are leaving and driving And there's a little out of control obviously that can also be a worry for for people in the town So we just wanted to bring it to your attention and we'd be welcome going over there and speaking To them with some of you that'd be great It's past friday night the uh constables did a a night time shift Yeah, I did and and they were they were in in town And they were noted to watch if there was any noise or anything Out of the ordinary going there. They did not note anything It's too bad because the following night they had a band of people on this midnight that was loud enough to be heard across the street Yeah, I mean I was there on friday night and it was Quiet and dead at 9 30 Marked more noise than the past. It's long on the bar That's bad. We've never had this never had this The lights showing around the perimeter are on all night. Yep, the signs are all falling down The picnic tables look like plastic things that you would not even have in your own backyard It's just a nice quiet now and then it's turning into something else You're you're not the only party to complain. I've heard this from a lot of people Frankly, I'm in I'm embarrassed to what's happening over there Thank you, and we do want them to be successful. We really do. We don't but this is a residential area And they're conducting a business That in my in my personal mind is not appropriately managed for a residential area And uh, I think this is uh an important topic to take on I know if I was in your If I was living in the park and living in around this In the center of town here. You would bother to heck out of me So I understand what you're saying And I and I do feel that something needs to be done about it I don't speak for the rest of the board. Is he just me? I just have a question of uh clarification I wonder if you guys had occasion to Notify any authorities have you made any calls? We have not but we know other folks who are Ready to do I would encourage you to do so All right, thanks for coming sorry that you couldn't make it last meeting to have you guys but it'd probably be more productive if we had a Meeting not in front of a big crowd. Yeah All right Frank Welcome back. I haven't seen you for a couple meetings Um, it's it's not for not wanting to be yeah, I know I So you want to talk about um lower maple hill infrastructure Resiliency or you're looking for an update on resiliency on that. I mean, you know galaxy five far away Maple hill I heard that two call words were going to be installed and um, and actually there's there's a There's really a traffic hazard on Just just Just above the just about Greg and Jean whites I mean, there's a there's a I assume that's going to be where one of the convicts is going to be Replaced but right now there is an orange cone, but I'm just surprised. I mean, I'm glad it's there I'm kind of wondering if late at night somebody You know what you don't get too close to it and go into it. I think that's a When they're coming I understood two culverts were going to be replaced, you know And you know, you're also authority was there and trauma was there and daddy was there You know, so Kevin Darry and uh, they were looking at that They were looking at that calling in front of great whites driveway And wondering why there wasn't some helpful water that was in the cabin was he was wondering why um, I mean, I'm you know in a letter I gave you I was Making a recommendation that the culvert would be proud enough to the little guy You know going That's some kind of an angle to So I just wanted I just wanted an update Got some covered some schedule FEMA people are meeting tomorrow and they'll be doing the site visits soon So as you heard as you heard from jones, there's a there's a meeting with fema personnel tomorrow And then following that they will be doing the site visits. Those wheels are turning Slow, but they're turning as far as the cross culvert I think whites That's to be a cross culvert because if we put a driveway culvert He would be Running And down your neighbors below you they wash out every time the rain Well, I mean, I mean, I think Is now that if there's a failure of color on the top of I'll have another wash up And that's my concern But again, I I appreciate that time was there and Kevin was there Yeah, I understand I'm just I'm just bringing this back to the front of people The board of civil authority was there because you were grieving the value of your land They weren't there to assess the culverts or anything like that. I'm saying it just so that it's clear I understand there. Okay, but I'm saying I was I was pleased that that was coming up as a man of public discussions And I I also understood that FEMA which I mean Team or in v-trans were at that intersection of Maple Hill and Wayne Farms and they're aware of the situation at least in terms of Inspecting that portion of the neighborhood and they will be back to look at it again shortly. Yeah But I I guess I was following up on I mean specifically what about those two columns that I understand you're Going to be Yep placed and upgraded and I'm calling attention also to what I think is a dangerous situation on that road I mean that needs any more I don't know more Orange cones or more science something so that somebody doesn't mean You know overturning You mean somebody driving home from the heinten house somebody driving Somebody driving up that road maybe in the weather in the apartment Maybe that covered Surprised that somebody hasn't fallen in there yet. I know what he's talking about. Yeah You get two two vehicles in that area you get to make it's a little dicey, but you know we can negotiate it Yeah No, I understand just bring it back and yep that's what I'm saying We write things up and then we find out Well, that's not right. Should we do it again and again again, right? Hopefully I'm gonna burn out on that And the um the other you want to talk some about the um EWP peers. That's all part of it But I mean I I mean jones mentioned that oh, I think I don't maybe month six She had mentioned that it's some some way for you know property owners to get some kind of To be made to some degree all for damage that had resulted from that able 15th And I just mean a month I had I mean she had mentioned it in one of her summaries and forward meetings and I'm wanting Um, I'm just bringing that back into you know, this too I mean assuming that that will be mentioned in In a month with summary of the And I'd like some more, you know details a lot of from jones. Maybe some refresher about that I don't actually have an update because I'm And then over to pat And pat you went out we went out we did all the site visits and we're waiting for their analysis of each one For FEMA's analysis, no Was the federal water sheds this and management resources conservation service Patty was I correct in when you were talking about the lower maple hill That the site visits that are happening. They're coming from fame and v-trans They're the ones who are going to do the site visits Yes In the hands of fema I don't know about v-trans, but the separate agency is doing separate things But not both at lower maple hill Not not each fema. Okay. It's fema. There are some sites on maple hill road, but it's not The dwqt program Okay It's directed towards private private property because fema and federal highway administration and v-trans do not do projects on private Okay, thank you. I'm sorry. It was a little confused. No. No, I'm sure It is But I assume if if those have been approved that I mean, how will people be notified? They're gonna they're they're Sending all of their analysis back to us Town and we will as soon as we get it will be getting in touch with every everyone that we visit What were there 13 of them? Different properties. We do So stay tuned hopefully we'll have more information For the snow flies, yes Speaking of wheels turning I'd like to nominate tim krally as the stage coach representative of the town I have no reason not to second that. Yes, I can bet All in favor. Hi. Hi. Thank you. Tim. Even though you're not here. Thank you. Thank you, Tim Yes, he does He mentions he's willing to do it And his appointment. Yeah that they have to have a message from this office To the stage show. Yeah. Yeah, so that's why we were taking this formal step. Thank you. Yeah We had a Someone wanted to discuss the drainage Up on little hollow road across from Um Yeah south hollow road south hollow You know what we're talking about, right? Is there any much to be done about that? It needs to be there. It needs to be ditched. Yeah, it's getting the line, right? Another 45 miles or over. Yeah Yeah, but try it. Yeah. This is this is somebody looking for ditching. They want to have the ditching Yeah, yeah Yeah, it's um Revented equipment, it's you know Bucket by bucket, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's a long time. Yeah Um, I think this driveway permit that you had we had already approved No, no, that's a different one And Cooler you had looked at this and you felt that um, this is the An oak lodge with the few conditions that you had on here. Yeah. Yeah So I'd um Move to approve with this conditions the attached conditions I don't I actually don't know what those conditions are Why do you regret calling an 18 in? And they need to Do some ditch the the town ditch at this point is not In shape to accept A lighter culvert so they need to do some ditch work on the town ditch to the next cross culvert So the driveway culvert actually works Got it. No expense to you. Right, right. Okay Let's take that. Okay long favor Bottom here talking about the town trees Martha you're on that, um You are in a park committee. Is this something that you know about on the agenda? Although I did have someone saving after church the other day that they thought there were a couple of trees That needed to be either trimmed or taken down Asked them if they would change specifically what they were talking about and they said they would but never called me Yeah, dick. Do you have some? Dick's got That little maple tree. Yep. It's more than half dead in kids requirements. There's somebody's gonna get hurt. Yeah And it's a drunk it's all rotten I would take it down for To get rid of it. Yeah, and then there's a right across from Post office, there's an oak tree that's all dying. That one sure couldn't have that one's more than half dead The little maple or kids would find that where are they going to climb after we take away their two trees? I vote for learning Marvin you have something Okay, let's finish with the trees first. I'm also on the town trees. All right Okay Now We are in Windsor county Addison county Rutland county and orange county has already got the ever old ash bore Now I believe doing you were with us on visit down On town property behind Above the cemetery. I'll say behind the cemetery Maybe a few years ago when we were logging that hillside and uh selective cutting and there's a bunch of ash trees that are Very big and mature along the behind the Tool shed all the way down to the french muslim and those trees Because there's there in a bunch they will be attacked by the bore eventually And we don't think anybody is immune There's a lot of a lot of other ash trees owned by the town on our town road along the town road They will be coming hazards As you know is three to five years to be dead and they won't come down all in one piece They will be broken off as a as they uh die and but it's a fast death and Norm smith is our tree warden and he would have the connections to go to the state forestry department to see recommendations about some of the big and And dangerous ash trees along the town road and remember we have limbs coming down Dead tree all the time don't recruit it and so however This is going to be more of that where there is ash trees and they are a lot of them along the town road but down behind the cemetery and i'm speaking alone now and not as a cemetery commission because it is a a townland And so forth, but they should be considered either treating them And apparently there is a treatment to protect them for Every two years they're going to be treated. But those trees there are already Over mature and they probably have some value To the ash people as you know It's a dying business now and it won't will continue Since 2003 I believe that they attacked us to begin with but anyway, winter county hasn't got it yet However, we're in this this little point around the county that we will have it maybe before The rest of winter county has it. New Hampshire had two years ago. New york had it three years ago and we just got it About a year ago and but it's moving two to three miles a year And it depends upon the weather and they don't move after october and then they'll start moving again in june And so forth that's the historical now. Remember I am no expert on the animal ash borer However, there's a lot of people that are and nor Smith would know where to go to For for advice as to what we at Rochester should do with our mature ash tree Thank you. Thank you Anybody else have anything else I want to say on that Dick said he was willing to take down That that small yes, yes, I was wondering whether he was willing to take down the other tree that was a problem Oak tree Too big All right, yeah Thanks All right, thank you That leaves us down to so we've got marvy frank The only other old businesses still on hanging out there the missing book which I've got no updates for you on that No updates I haven't There's anyone been in there searching for that that you know Tony she laureate come in No, that's about The update. Yeah, someone did come in looking for it mason's lawyer. Well, I don't know if she's still your lawyer or not Yeah No Five weeks Yep There's only so many places you can look Looked a lot of people looked a lot of places, but it's not um, no it has not shown up I mean in the room downstairs Bruce Bruce spent some time down in there That's it for now That's the update Okay And does anybody else have anything else they'd like to speak about before we call tonight Thank you all for coming and Happy summer