 All right, welcome to the May 7th Select Board meeting. We are back at the middle school where we will be for at least a couple of more nights. Who knows how many nights? We have a bunch of things on our agenda tonight and I might need to skip around a little bit just to allow folks enough time to get here. The first item is the public hearing for Amherst Brewing Company, but we're not certain about whether they're attending or not, correct? So, let's see, we never do things in different times than we're gonna do. Okay, well I actually think we can do the Amherst Brewing Company public hearing anyway because this is, as I mentioned, a lot of times when we do this sort of thing, this is a technicality, this is the most technical of all the technicalities and I don't think we actually need anybody here to talk to us about this. So I am going to open this public hearing at 631. And I will explain that this is the issuance of new stock because Massachusetts regulates every possible detail of a liquor license. We need to approve exactly what the liquor license says. They are issuing new stock that the approvals for the new stock have gone through all the appropriate internal procedures on their end and they have been run by the chief of police on our end. He recommends them for approval. Looks like we're, does not typically care who the stockholders are of any of these places. So there you go. This is one of these things that's kind of left over from Massachusetts in its earliest Puritan colony state when maybe we would look at the list of stockholders and say, that person is a, is a problem. You know, we would, a scoundrel, we wouldn't want that person to hold stock in a liquor license. That is not where we are today. So we don't have the applicant here to speak to it. Would anyone from the public like to speak to Amherst Brewing Company's issuance of new stock? Didn't think so. All right. No one from the public goes to comment and select board have any questions about this before we close the public hearing. I do not. Mr. Hayden. I'm all set. Okay. The report we have is very complete. It's very complete. Yes. Then without objection, the public hearing closes at 6.32 p.m. And Ms. Stein, would you like to make the motion? Sure. I move that the select board approve the application of Amherst Brewing Company Incorporated, 10 University Drive, Amherst MA, ABCC license number 002400078 relative to issuance of stock to existing shareholders at the current value of $71 per share to increase cash reserves and stabilize cash flow as voted November 17th, 2011. Second. Further discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All right. That's unanimous. Three in favor. Two abstent. We folks missed our big public hearing on Amherst Brewing Company's stock. Yeah, I figured that. So sorry. It was horribly captured. Okay. So next up, we have information and requests for approval. First one up is Kendrick Park Farmers Market. Is that you? Okay. And you are Sarah Hopps. Is that right? Welcome. We have your request in our packet and we thought we'd have you come in both to deal with your request, but also for you to make a little commercial about the upcoming Kendrick Park Farmers Market. So what can you tell us about that? I can see. From Tuesday to until October 9th. It's a moving market for consumers in the Amherst and surrounding area to provide fresh produce, meat, fruit, all the good summer vegetables and farmers market items, bread. Yeah, so we're gonna have a lot of great events. We'll be coordinating with the bike week for the first market. I'd get people to the rodeo, really make it a community event for going to lunch. I mean, I'm afraid they're going home for the market, so please stop by every Wednesday. Wonderful. Any questions from select board about this year's Kendrick Park Farmers Market? Okay. As far as the request goes, so the request is similar to last year but a little bit different. You wanna tell us about that? Well, it's just a few more spaces for the farmers. We're gonna have a few more vendors this year. So it'll be the same seven spaces on the road right next to Kendrick Park and then a few more on McClellan, Hallig and the west side of the East New York Park. So totaling 30 spaces as opposed to 25 last year. Okay. Questions or comments about the parking request? Mr. Hayden. You found, you needed the extra spaces. I mean, why the increased request? So the seven spaces are just for the customers, for unloading, but then the 30 would be, we do have an increased vendor presence at the market. So that would probably be, there was like about 12 vendors last year and we're looking to have 20 plus this year. So that would increase, we might not need all 30, but just in case, so. So these, there's blue dots on our drawing. Those actually could be, that's when they're finished unloading, they just need a place to leave their van for the time. Okay, so these could be really anywhere within reasonable walking distance, that's it. Other questions or comments about parking request? I'll just note that sometimes folks forget about the Prey Street parking lot, which is very close to Kendrick Park. So customers who are looking to be attending the farmer's market who might try first to park on that, I call it North Pleasant Street extension, whatever that is, right in front of SilverScape, they can also try the Prey Street mart, Prey Street lot, which is very convenient for this. Okay. Mr. Zomac. If I could just add, we're working very closely with Claire McGinnis, our treasure collector, and this will be official placards of the town of Amherst for a set period from first date, for a time and a date certain. So at the end of the date of October 9th, the year last day, those placards would no longer be valid. And so it's a very official, it worked quite well last year. And as Sarah said, the excitement of this year is more venues and potentially the market growing. So it's all convenient. Perfect. It's a wonderful market. I am fortunate to live within walking distance to it and I enjoy it very much and looking forward to it starting to grow. I believe on the 16th, could I give a plug for your grand opening and at 4 p.m., is that right? Yeah. I believe the chair and the town manager will be joining the market committee and kicking it off. Terrific. All right, Ms. Stein, would you like to make the motion? I move that the select board issue the Wednesday Kendrick Park Farmers Market. Dirty parking passes for vendors use in the town center permit areas of Halleck, McClellan and the west side of North Prospect and reservation of seven meter parking spaces for loading and unloading of vendors products and for use by market customers on the east side of that section of North Pleasant Street that abuts the west side of Kendrick Park from 12.30 p.m. to 7.30 p.m. Each Wednesday, beginning May 16th, 2012 through October 9th, 2012, Sarah Hopps Market Manager. Second. That's a further discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye, that is unanimous. Thank you very much for coming in and we will see you at the market. Thank you. All right, we don't have anyone here for bike week, right? No. That's the next one. I'm just making sure we're going in order in case there's nobody here for bike week and there's not. So now we'll move on to you and you are the gourmet grilled cheese and you're Gail McClellan. Hi. Tony, thank you. Welcome. And so tell us about your new business plan and everything. So the Gourmet Gourmet business says, might we please gourmet grilled cheese is a food cart. It's custom built. We had a custom built on an Antiretra Connecticut. It's completely stainless steel. We cater to a variety of different gourmet sandwiches, kind of like grilled cheese. For instance, a Krabby Melt would be Krabby with grilled cheese, grilled octopus. Pretty cool. And then we have, we have for the sweet tooth, on Antiretra's non-puppet drizzle with brie. So hold hope for gourmet sandwiches. We've gone through all the approvals in the state of Massachusetts. We have Heather's and Mayor's license. We've been approved for the July and October Brentville Fair. We've also been approved by the Board of Health and the Environment. And I'm looking to communicate with you and do some of the events. We're gonna support local farmers. So our tomatoes, avocados, any of the vegetables that we use as well as local bakeries. We'll also be doing some other types of organic breads that we think will be a good fit for the area. With that said, we're looking to try to become a part of the farmer's market, utilizing your rears, but also in addition to that, do some of the other events in the area. So looking at this weekend since it's graduation weekend and we know that at one time there were other local carts up here. I think we were told there was a Tony's down in the Kendrick Park area and then down at the Antiretra Church. And so I'm hoping that down the way of the day. So we've had a couple of lunch cart licenses come to us in the last couple of years, but then the lunch cart business has never actually materialized, at least in recent memory. How do we deal with the fact that, for example, Kendrick Park has use of Kendrick Park during that time and presumably the grilled cheese business would need to coordinate with those folks as opposed to getting permission from us for something like that, right? Yes, because we, yes, for the reasons you said, and that's working out. So that would be a negotiation among you folks. Right. Okay. And so that would be the same with our farmer's market and the other farmer's market, rather in the Spring Street lot that happens on Saturdays, et cetera. So once we've sort of given folks permission to use part of the public way, it kind of becomes theirs for that period, so. Right, and have coordinated with them. Right. Then on the off hours of the farmer's market, for instance, this weekend, which is a big graduation weekend, you know, I'd really like to be out there and be able to sell wares. The food market is huge right now. The gourmet food market, I don't know if you have the opportunity to see the mobile carts on. They have their own show right now on the mobile carts. It's pretty fun, but with that said, other parts of the country is huge. I travel with my day job and they're everywhere. They haven't quite come to the northeast or been a part of it, but I've been myself for about two years and it's a pretty cool cart. It's got a dancing grocery's guy on the outside and his name is Mack, he danced to Mack and I. So, you know, we'd like to be a part of your community. Okay. All right, so you've got the information about not blocking access to things. That's kind of the biggest thing that we're, that's our concern, unless a concern comes to us from somebody else, but that's really the main thing. Okay. Questions or comments about the grilled cheese lunch cart? Ms. Brewer. Knowing that's all true and so that's where a lot of this comes into play, you know, what health has done their thing, the fire department, public safety works with that. It does say restrictions for hours of sale stated therein on the last cart license for the state market. So, our motion says that versus. Yeah, it has their farmers markets, I guess, but no. So, do we just take that, what's the appropriate reference? Again, we don't do these a lot in the day, they tend not to actually come to fruition, so we don't have to base it off. But. It's referring to Mr. Musanti. I mean, at this point, we aren't going to be regulating the hours anyway. We aren't going to be changing. She's not going to be coming back to us for different hours. The motion references the license and the hours of operation listed on the license. Application is anywhere between 10 a.m. and midnight. Right, yeah, okay, so, I mean, any day of the week, 10 to midnight. No, 10 to dusk, special events are 10 to 10. Well, there's a seven to dusk. Right, that's from the market, seven to dusk. Especially events are 10 to midnight. I was referring to special events. The Kendrick Park Farmers Market itself, I believe, is two to seven p.m. weekly? Two to six. Two to six. My concern is, I don't want to say these are the hours we've approved. If these aren't the only hours because we don't know what special events really mean, I just assume we took the hours reference out. And if there's an issue or a complaint later, I think that that's something we deal with them. Because it's not, this isn't something somebody can refer to and say, oh, you're operating at six a.m., that's a bad thing. Because it's different days, different situations. Like you said, graduation is an important thing. But I don't want to be unnecessarily limiting with something we're not going to enforce immediately. So you... Just assume skip the hours reference all together. Skip the hours reference all together, which means that it could be at two o'clock in the morning or? No, it's already till midnight. I can't imagine. When do we let the cart for UMass? I don't think they have a permit with us. I think they just operate on campus. But I'm not sure. Ms. Stein, you have a question or? I just was going to say I don't see any harm in having these hours spelled out. I think it's sort of useful information. So Ms. Brewer, your concern is that it might be happening at six o'clock in the morning and that's not being... My concern is that Kendrick Park, it doesn't say that's Wednesday as well. I'd rather just say 10 a.m. to 12 a.m. period. Oh, okay. Just getting rid of the special event thing. If we're going to list hours. And then that way, that covers Kendrick Park and we don't expect it to be too late. But it's not getting too fast. Okay, so what we've just done is... So that says seven a.m., is that right? That doesn't say one a.m. It says seven a.m. to dusk. Okay, so we've eliminated the seven a.m. concept and which would have you starting at 10 a.m. all the time? Is that fine? There's not a huge grilled cheese market at the seven a.m. Right. I'm not sure if I were setting up for the farmer's market on Spring Street. What's wrong with seven a.m.? I might not cross out dusk in 10 a.m. and just have seven a.m. to 12 a.m. Okay. Okay. Is that all right? We will determine exactly what the desire is for grilled cheese sandwiches at every hour of the day. And then report back to us whether you're selling between seven and 10. I'm just gonna stop by and ask her. Okay, so the motion has been amended to now read seven a.m. to 12 a.m., correct? By which we mean midnight. All right, further discussion. The only other addition to the motion is to add the owner's name at the end, just like we do with managers. Again, we don't have a set way. All right, anything else? Good. All right, then. Moving right along. All in favor say aye. Aye. I haven't made the motion. Oh, you didn't? That's how we did. That's going to be a long meeting. Usually she goes to all of her motion changes after we've made the motion, but okay. So go ahead. Shall I go ahead? Yes, please. Okay. I moved at the select board to approve the application of McLaughlin Corby Incorporated Dueing Business as Bite Me Please Gourmet Grilled Cheese to maintain a vehicle for the sale of gourmet grilled cheese sandwiches, soup, smashed potatoes, Cuban coffee, and gourmet soda on such part of running public way in the town of Amherst, subject to Hawkers and Peddler's license restrictions for hours of sale stated therein on the lunch cart license, providing that public travel is not commoded thereby. Release of license pending issuance of the Amherst Health Permit by the Amherst Health Department. Owner, Yale McLaughlin Totey. Second. For the discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you. Look forward to your grilled cheese sandwiches. Okay. Moving right along. So we still have nobody here for bike week and I'm not sure if they're coming in or not and I don't know the deal with Tabella. So let's do, let's do bike week first. Okay. I'll have to calculate the rate or what? I don't, time is 648. Sure we can read the proclamation. So this is for bike week. Let's just say when it is bike week is May 14th through May 20th, we have in our packets a poster with a bunch of bike week events. Thought somebody was gonna come and talk to this. Mr. Hayden, are you connected with bike week at all? I am. I've been invited to speak at the breakfast on Friday. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to sort of say about it as a little commercial for bike week? I'd love to go on and on and on. The last year, it was pretty exciting because a lot of high school kids got involved in that week. I was accompanied on my commute to work by a lot of high school kids, which is always a great pleasure. But also, it's fun just to come, there are various events. There'll be the bike rodeo for the youngsters to learn how to ride better and to show off how well they do ride. The high point of course for me is on Friday at the breakfast, those of us who've been riding are invited to come to breakfast that's sponsored by the bike week people. There is a rumor that the Arthur Swig Bicycle Award, which is presented annually to someone who has most helped promote bicycling in the area, will be awarded, will be given at that breakfast. It's often given at an event at the library. That's kind of a nice idea. I'm not sure if I can mention that John Ulver is going to be the recipient yet or not, but anyway. Don't think you have. Don't mention it. Don't mention it. All right, thank you. Ms. Stein would like to make read the proclamation. Sure. Whereas bicycle commuting is an effective means to reduce air and noise pollution. And whereas bicycle commuting is an effective means to conserve energy. And whereas bicycle commuting helps improve the livability of communities by reducing traffic noise and congestion. And whereas bicycle commuting is good physical exercise that contributes to the health and fitness of residents. And whereas increasing numbers of businesses have installed bicycle parking and other commute facilities to help customers and employees commute by bicycle. And whereas bicycle transportation is an integral part of the multimodal transportation system planned for by federal, state, regional and local transportation government agencies. And whereas the Massachusetts Department of Transportation, the Pioneer Valley Planning Commission, Mass Bike and many public and private groups and individuals have worked together to promote a single week of bicycle commuting. And whereas the month of May is national bike month to promote the bicycle as a means of transportation and recreation. And whereas the week of May 14th to 20th, 2012 is Bay State Bike Week in the Pioneer Valley. And now therefore the Amherst Bike Board does hereby proclaim the week of May 14th, 2012 to May 20th, 2012 as Bay State Bike Week in Amherst. Second. All in favor of proclaiming May 14th through May 20th is Bay State Bike Week. Say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. That is unanimous. It is thus proclaimed. Okay. Next up. I'll take Karen, she did make it tonight. Okay. So next up, we have a liquor license change. Now I was saying before that the State of Massachusetts is incredibly picky about all of the liquor license changes. Oddly, this is a change for which we don't need a public hearing. It also does not need to be noticed to butters or whatever, so this is in a funny little category. So this is a liquor license that is currently held by tabellas and they are changing their business model to a pizzeria. Now we invited them to come in tonight and talk to us about that, but they're not here. So they need both to change the liquor license information which we can do in their absence and they need a new common vitual license which we can also do in their absence. Typically, especially with common vitual licenses, we let people come in and do a little commercial about their new business, but alas, we do not have anyone here to do such a commercial. So both of these motions are about changing the liquor license and coming up with a new common vitual license for this business which will be called Arise Pizzeria in the same location as tabellas and with one of the same principles, but now it's going to be Arise instead of tabellas. If anyone has questions, I can't answer them. Mr. Hayden. Well, actually, this is a procedural question. If we vote no, does it have to stay tabellas? Well, I really enjoyed dinner there and I'm not, you know, there's plenty of pizzerias in town. Indeed, indeed. I don't know. All right, Ms. Stein, how would you like to make the motion? I move that the select board approve the application of tabellas, LLC, doing business as tabellas restaurant, 28 Amity Street, Amherst, MA, ABCC license number 002400098-12 relative to change of corporate name and doing business as from tabellas, LLC, doing business as tabellas restaurant to Arise and Drink Your Bliss, LLC, doing business as Arise Pizzeria as voted April 28th, 2012. Second. That's for the discussion. So that vote refers to their vote, right? That doesn't mean our deal. Yes. Thank you. That's just, but I forget what we tried to call it the last time. Maybe we'd call it per their corporate vote. Yes. Per their, per their corporate vote, April 28th, 2012. Or as voted by the LLC, something like that. As voted by the LLC. Yes, that's good. As voted by the LLC. Okay. For the discussion, all in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. That's unanimous and the common bid. I move that the select board approve a common victor's license for Arise and Drink Your Bliss LLC, doing business as Arise Pizzeria, 28 Amity Street, Amherst to be open from 11 a.m. to 1 a.m., Monday through Saturday and 10 a.m. to 1 a.m. Sundays, Emily Wadham, manager. Second. For the discussion, all in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. That is unanimous. Okay, we took care of all those things, whether folks were here or not. Did I skip anything on that list? No, we have a liquor license. Okay, what time is it right now? Okay, yeah, so let's do the liquor license now. I move that the select board approve the application for wine and malt special license of Brenda Ryan Newton, director of catering on behalf of the University of Massachusetts for reception to be held at Holder Hall on May 10th, 2012 and 5 to 7 p.m. Second. For the discussion, all in favor say aye. Aye. All in favor say aye. Aye. That's unanimous. Okay, so we'll get to untimed items then and the first one is the housing study update. Yes, and I'm pleased to have planning director Jonathan Tucker here who will give us a incredibly detailed but concise update on the housing study. The incredible use of this kind of project we've already had in the packet. The concise part is that the study will consist of four parts, well not just the eight and six part here, so there's the funding. The portions of the study for us are initially, first part is the housing needs assessment, affordable housing needs assessment. The general assessment of the community's housing stock with a focus on affordable housing needs is formed according to state and federal guidelines that will be funded through our bar grant program and it will be sufficient to then decide to go forward with that to use for the production of a housing production plan under state law. We may or may not decide to do that but this will enable us to be able to, you know, the community decides that something it wants to do. What that does is establish the baseline of housing information for the community. The second part is the perspective of housing market study that was recommended under the gateway study, which was subsequently brought to address the entire community and was funded by last falls of town meeting. So we have two pieces of the funding that we will keep separate. What that will do is assess the community's housing stock and housing performance over the last decade or so, as well as the regional and national housing trends to try and determine whether or not Amherst is, people are trying to come to Amherst and aren't able to do so because there is not housing here that meets their needs. Particularly where we have non-student populations, adults, they're able to sort some kinds. We're quite aware of both anecdotal in terms of regional and national trends that such folks are out there. What this will do is give us more details about what that means. The third part will be an assessment of the impact of student housing markets on Amherst's housing stock in a variety of ways. And finally, we will be asking the consultant who have been doing this work to look at some of the range of zoning and other regulatory amendments that we have been considering and give us recommendations with regard to this. Affordable housing, the assessment study, the perspective market study, the assessment of the impact of student housing on Amherst's market and the real recommendations with regard to regulatory change. All of those pieces are described in much greater detail in the draft RFP, which is in your package. I'd be happy to answer any questions. We will then be going out soliciting requests for both of these in the next few weeks on this. Great. So we do have the RFP in our packet, which is online for folks who are following along at home. Are there any questions or comments from select board? Mr. Hold. This is a little bit tangential but related. As Mr. Tucker mentioned, there's been a lot of public interest in this issue. Some people have asked for housing studies. Some people then talk about the relation between the housing studies and proposed zoning changes. Could you just speak briefly to that about the order of the process and the logic that's at work here? So I think that the public is always gassing forth for more information about these things. The community has last did an affordable housing update in 2004 and we have not done, we've not studied the community's housing since then and almost a decade. There has certainly been substantial change. One of the things that we've noticed has been the increase in the conversion of single-family residences in the last five years to crevice, one sort or another, predominantly but not entirely student residence. So part of the intent here is to gather that information. There is some relationship to zoning but not as much as some people would hope there was because you can craft zoning to capture, zoning is a generalized instrument. You can capture the range of possibility, for instance, under the middle of the zoning that we're now contemplating, the planning board is proposing to limit the bedroom size from one to three bedrooms per unit so as to try and focus on the market which is not the group housing market out there. But beyond that, zoning is somewhat of a blunt instrument and it's not a tool that no matter what information you have, you can use to direct people in one direction. In some cases, people who help right on out of town. You can't do that with zoning. What you can do is open and close doors and windows and then it's up to people to decide to go through them. So we have a great deal of anecdotal information and we think we have a pretty good understanding of what's going on with the market but this information will give us grounding and details that we can then go forward not only with zoning but with many others including block grant funds, for instance, for housing rehabilitation and so forth. What is the target for that? Thank you, Mr. Museum. Yeah, and I would just add that to me this is a very important next step in this, a long-term process. Starting with the affordable housing needs analysis and study knowing that we have CDBG and other potential funding partners out there for the town to make strides in affordable housing, I think it's very, very important that we have much more specific goals and objectives about the type of housing we're trying to achieve and rough timeline as opposed to a concern about responding to individual parcels or opportunities that may come on the market at any given time and having time and energy focused on reacting to that as opposed to being a more deliberate plan. So I see that as fundamental. In terms of the housing market study piece of this, you know that 16 months ago now at the beginning of 2011, I asked the Amherst Redevelopment Authority to take a deep breath and look anew at the so-called Gateway Corridor Project, the area between the downtown and the UMass campus and we engaged outside planning consultant from Cecil Group with a community charrette process in May or June of last year and it was a very intense of three-day charrette. Part of the recommendations coming out of that charrette from feedback from many, many community members and from the professional outside planners who were involved was to one of the next, two of the next steps were a more detailed transportation study which is almost entirely complete that we have partnered with the university on. We'll have recommendations from that very shortly and then the need for a more detailed housing market analysis to ascertain with some independent analysis what sort of market exists out there for the type of housing that the community was expressing as most desired in that corridor and so this is a study to find out if in fact there's some accuracy to that desire. So I see this as a logical next step. All of this comes way before any attempts or the crafting of even any additional zoning and so I think we need to get on with the analytical work through these studies and then there'll be much more public process if and when we get to the point where it makes any sense to do zoning. Thank you. Mr. Tucker, on the mistake. Part of the step-wise process is these studies, traffic study fairly quickly and the housing study by my group, I have a zoning in the end of July, we'll be in hand and Article 17 asks the funder to do the next steps to enable us to then take, okay, we've got that information. Let's look at both the gateway and the entire downtown as a unit and whether and how to rezone that area. So it's all hopefully a logical set of steps. Great. Ms. Stein. No, Ms. Stein. After me, I was looking at November 2011 town meeting, Article 5, which also talks about a housing marketing study and could you clarify, meet for me how this study and that? This study contains that study. This kind of study includes funds from block grant to do the affordable housing study, the larger generalized study includes those funds, those $40,000 to do the perspective market study and as part of that study to also look at the impact of the housing market, of the student housing market on the community's housing stock and the house housing in general and to look at review and recommendations with regard to future regulatory changes all associated with that. What we hope is that that will then give us a comprehensive picture between the block grant funding and the perspective market funding that was appropriated last fall of the entire community's housing. There are still a few pieces left that we are not gonna be able to do because we don't have access to funding until fall just because of the federal grant cycles and those pieces are examination of Amherst's income levels in greater detail in terms of the census data and locating where folks of low and moderate income are living in Amherst and then also an assessment of Amherst's housing stock for relative levels of deterioration, what the feds in their wisdom, steal, slump, blight, those are the good terms that they use. So we can then target the funds that we have through block grant program whether it's through housing review and levitation or whatever at improving and retaining that housing stock. Ms. Gruer. First an apology because I asked for the draft last week and I got it, but I still didn't ask my questions ahead of time, so kind of putting Mr. Tucker and the tail manager on the spot here. One thing I think is really important for us to have in the Stein's question brought it out again, despite Mr. Tucker's great explanation and to us verbally and the words that we have, we need a simple chart that says this money pays for this, this money pays for that, from fall, from spring, it's really quite straightforward so we can refer back to that at some future point. Especially with the last two items that you've mentioned, Mr. Tucker, those would be additional block grant funds is what we're looking at for the source there when you say both those pieces, right? Those have already been essentially approved for block grant funds and we just know that we're not gonna have to fund anything at all. But that is also CDBG and so that would be really good to show timeline associated with that. So it could be a fairly simple chart something big and elaborate. Question about the planning board has seen this, have they, did they have any comments that seemed? I have seen this, they did not have specific comments on it, they were too forward their comments as they reviewed it to staff individually. They did vote in terms of the accompanying step on article 17, unanimously to very carefully worded how to run this set and I think the planning board member will speak to that and I want to try and attempt that careful reading from memory. They basically appreciated the community's planning process on this, the things that have been done in the logical, step-wise, and supporting the funding for what they're doing now. Great, two more, let's try and be quick. The housing production plan, I remember discussing that with the Committee on Homelessness and the Block Grant Advisory Group previously. I'm confused by something I thought I heard you say about the fact that this material, as is described in the RFP, would meet the requirements for portion of a housing production plan but we wouldn't have to adopt it, we wouldn't have to use it. I got lost somewhere on that thread because the understanding at that time by those committees had been we will spend money, we will have a housing production plan so that we can be one of the communities that has a housing production plan. The community can then do that fairly quickly once it has the needs assessment in hand. It is a policy decision and we don't yet have a housing and shelter committee in place to look at that question. Some communities in Northampton, for instance, have done the needs assessment, they were not however interested in doing the production plan because that then ties you to a state schedule for producing housing annually with a certain amount and it also ties you to a methodology in terms of creating certain kinds of districts, what state considers to be smart growth districts, so many districts in which things are rented pretty much by right if they include affordable housing and so forth and there's less local control. Some communities want to understand their housing and then make their own choices about how to go about addressing that housing and not be under the control of the state and mandate. If I could ask the town manager then to ensure that when the housing and sheltering committee which has been appointed but has not yet been brought together to meet does meet that they receive some clarification on what that means. Absolutely. I know some expectations probably are although there were a lot of details at the time they didn't realize the separation between those things but it's not just a one shot product and then it's done and I totally appreciate the way you just explained that. My final question is associated with public input. I know that we have done over so many different types of public inputs and I noticed that in the RFP it says that one of the consultant qualifications is asking that they have successful basically successful experience with visioning exercises. However, there's no requirement in this RFP that I can find that they meet with any town committees or any public other than town staff. And so what's your vision for that? This is, we're not talking about the project under Article 17, we're talking about the housing RFP. This is a study study. It is not intended to create a set of policy recommendations out of that that then follows from the information. This study goes to the housing and shelter committee probably to the planning board and other boards as well and out of that town decides how it wants to proceed with process for determining what kinds of policies to follow. It's not a visioning process for specific parts of town or for the entire community. It's a data gathering exercise. And while I understand that although it was specifically asked for as a type of experience that the consultant has had and I understand that you might want that experience from them even though you don't expect them to provide that experience within this project simply because it speaks to their other characteristics. I am also familiar with studies that are completed and handed over to committees that have overlooked things that seem quite obvious to members of committees that weren't necessarily obvious to others. So I'm a little concerned that the project will just be, we'll do the RFP, we'll assign the contract, we'll say, okay, here it's all done. And there's been no opportunity for input by the people who are going to be deciding on the policy later before the policy, before the study is complete. So I think that's something we should think about. I'm not trying to stop anything at this point. I think it's something we need to think about logically because it's something that has happened in the past and it's people are experts, but yet there are things that will be overlooked. It happens in the schools, it happens here too. If I may, when we drafted this, the committee didn't need this. Absolutely. We would be happy to have this in such a way that this body is working with the housing and the children. And I certainly don't want to slow down any of the data gathering, nobody wants that, nobody wants that. So I think- So we want to be able to say something at some point. But that's the way to do it. Let's wrap this up. So I think that your points are good, the town manager has heard them, the planning director has heard them and that can be kind of a consciousness that you bring to this process. I completely agree that one does not collect public input on what do you think the state of housing is, that's not a study, that's a visioning process. So I think that's all duly noted and will be kind of- That sounds fine. It's like I said, I don't want to slow down any data. Right, we certainly, the idea of rewriting this for the housing and sheltering committee, that's only been a point that that would be terrible. So, okay. All right, so we're proceeding. We're good with it. We appreciate it being shared with us. You've got Ms. Brewer's concerns. Anything else on the housing study? Okay. You are not. You're dismissed. Thank you. And speaking of dismissed, you're also dismissed. We took care of you early. It was a technicality. We weren't sure if you were coming. That'll do. Yeah, that's not a problem. It's quite all right. You're all approved issue stock. Go forth and issue. Okay. Moving right along here, we have Mr. Miesanti quickly is gonna tell us the status of Article 29 discussions. I don't have any substantive update for you tonight, unfortunately. Continuing to work with town council based on the feedback from the select board at your April 30th meeting about attempting to craft a draft motion that might be embraced by both the petitioners and the select board along the lines of a resolution related to Article 29 about secure communities. That drafting and additional outreach is not yet complete. So I think it's appropriate if we wanna perhaps schedule this for one of your upcoming sessions. Okay, so clearly the time is of the essence here. So I would think that we will get to this article next Monday or next Wednesday. I'm hoping that meaning doesn't go beyond that, but who knows, I'm an optimist. I do not think we'll get to it tonight or this coming Wednesday, so that's not a problem. But presuming that we are going to get to it like next Monday, we need to have the information before that meeting, before that packet, so we can all think about it. And also clearly the petitioners are gonna need to be involved at more than the last step so that this is kind of vetted by the time we deal with it. Okay, any other questions or comments on that then? My quick comment was to be, that's exactly what I expected tonight's update to be was that you'd still be working on it, but again, just understanding that timeline. You weren't disappointed. That's kind of tight, but we knew that's where you'd be at this point. Yeah, okay. All right, nothing that. All right, so then the other thing we need to do tonight is talk about our summer meeting schedule. You had a packet, a memo in your packet that is both a memo and a calendar page. I'm proposing something a little bit radical, a little bit radical for summer that we meet less often. Like how about that? We tend to meet less often in the summer anyway, but then there's kind of a certain amount that you just have to meet in order to get your work done. This board has been working together for a couple of years now. We've got our processes down pretty well. The primary process that we go through in the summer is the town manager evaluation and goal setting process. And I think that I feel good looking at that schedule, which I'll present to you at one of these June meetings that we can fit all of that in as necessary because we know what we're doing. We've done it a couple of times and we're getting pretty good at it. So first there's the concept of meeting fewer times, which would basically come down to two meetings in June. The proposal would be to whenever town meeting ends to not meet again in May. To meet these two times in June, which corresponds to times that we are all given the information folks gave me, we are all available at those times. One time in July, which is only one fewer time than we met last year. Again, this is a date that everyone is available per the information I've been given. And essentially one regular meeting in August, at the end of August, that the meeting right before that would be the evaluation only meeting. This is the meeting where we sit around, we read documents mixed for really thrilling television. But it's a really critical meeting and one that we wouldn't pile other stuff onto. The reason I think we can do this would, it basically hinges on our willingness to have kind of these quickie select board meetings for licenses and taxi licenses and liquor licenses if they come in. Also the potential to have to add another meeting or two. We both, or rather we all saw some various ZBA transmittals that are working their way through the system right now. We've got some restaurants in town that are looking to either open or expand in the coming months. I will do my best to schedule those liquor license hearings for these dates, but once those get submitted and approved, then they have kind of their own clock that starts ticking. So if those won't work, then conceivably we would need to schedule another meeting. But again, it would just be kind of for the liquor license concept. Our work does slow down a lot in the summer. I have looked through the lists from the last couple years of summer meetings and I do believe we can do this. So the theory is the theory good with folks to meet these few times? And how about the dates in particular? Are folks good with these dates? They're consistent with what you told me would be available. And I will mention that since I created this memo, you all got on my email about that other date that we have to meet. And this is how we have to just sort of be able to respond to things as they occur. And that is the 13th of June. There will be at least a quorum's worth of us for a meeting, a joint meeting with the regional school committee and the Pellum Select Board to deal with retired teachers' insurance. This is a public hearing that will be held here at the middle school. So I can add that to your calendar just to be thorough. So any questions, comments or concerns about the meeting dates as proposed? No. Okay, to make it official, we usually vote on our meeting dates, Ms. Steinridge, I'd like to make the motion about these. I think we have a motion. Do we approve the approval? Come on in. Sure, sure. I move. Nope, maybe we don't have it. Sometimes we do. Could we agree by consensus? We can agree by consensus. I'll state the motion. How about that? That the Select Board meet on June 11th, 13th and 18th, July 16th, August 20th and 27th, and that we understand that occasional other dates might be called as necessary to deal with liquor license hearing or a simple liquor license, special license approval. You put in June 18th on that? I did. So I need a second. Oh, second. Thank you. I'll say, no, further discussion. All in favor, say hi. Hi. All right, that is unanimous. Good, we've got a meeting schedule. I think that helps to get that taken care of now for those of us who are still making vacation plans or whatever it helps us to plan around those. And I think that we can be very efficient this summer in our meeting. Okay, anything else we need to talk about tonight before we adjourn? I will note that we are meeting. Don't forget, we are meeting on Wednesday. We have a public hearing on Wednesday at 6.30 in this room and we will also, that meeting will be followed by a very brief executive session. Which is in this room? I think we'll do that. Yes. We can make ACTV meet. I would just add that I have confirmed with town council, he will be attending both that meeting and the town meeting session itself. Thank you. All right, so nothing that can't then wait until Wednesday if anyone has an issue. And without objection, this meeting adjourns at 7.23. Thank you very much.