 Turbo Welcome to a special edition of the gouvernement information service. This is issues and answers. My name is Elvis Thomas acting assistant superintendent of police with responsibility for press and public relations. Ifi 50 hasen the coloncast legiaeunta predyallasuni unit This morning you are here on the topic predyallasuni and gentlemen and lady Can you tell me what really is predyallasuni Lassini is the theft of agricultural produce. For instance, farmers were planting the produce, tomatoes, cabbage, onions, bananas, planting, whatever. As long as is stuff that is being planted in a garden where there is a backyard farm and persons decide to take it without permission, it is considered theft and the better word for it is Prydia Lassini. Prydia Lassini is the theft of agricultural produce. As long as is stuff that is being planted in a garden where there is a backyard farm and persons decide to take it without permission, it is considered theft and the better word for it is Prydia Lassini. Lassini is the theft of agricultural produce. As long as is stuff that is being planted in a garden where there is a backyard farm and persons decide to take it without permission, it is considered theft and the better word for it is Prydia Lassini. As long as is stuff that is being planted in a garden where there is a backyard farm and persons decide to take it without permission, it is considered theft and the better word for it is Prydia. To this, where can one find the office? How can one access your office and whether there are any telephone numbers that they can reach? The northern office is located at reach four. That is at the region free office. The telephone number there is 453-8483. Mi Kood Village. Um, the number there is 454-1708. You just give us two numbers here. But is this service offered island wide? Yes, it is. Persons can make their reports to the various police stations. And we have already established a relationship where any report that is made would be passed on to us at the unit. Now, I was just going to my next question, which is what is the process now of reporting a matter to the unit. And you have just explained a little bit of it, but can you go a little into detail? In areas where we do not have an office, for instance, you could say view fort. You could use view fort library, these two areas. What happens is that the people, persons will make report at the respective police stations. And from there, they will telephone us at the unit where we will come and investigate the matter. They will gather all the information from the persons making the report, telephone numbers and so on. So, and this will be passed on to the persons who is responsible for dealing with matters in that particular area. So far what we have done is that we have officers assigned to particular areas. For instance, in the library area we have an officer, an officer for Swazel, one for Soufre, one for view fort and one for Miku area, that's in the south. And likewise, all the areas that we cover in the north also. So, if we fly to Baga'i, we will be in danger. We might be in the office now, but we are also in the police station. Who will leave me or the police station first? Or will the officer come in and perform the report? The officer will come in and do the official report. The officer will come in and do the official report, and he will be transferred from Witepukatwe to Leshu, and he'll be transferred to the village. Witepukatwe, Bonsi, sivara ila fe, apu ele sala? Apu ele sala, usara poli stationa, ek yukai bano akol, alet yunisil nomba, yukai kuye no ek fenusav, kisakifet, dele poli islamem, kadepa alekumani kikwab situasiyo ye, saa kumasi investigasiyo, nek handili over bano. Bona. Now when these matters come to you, how is it that you go about dealing with these reports? When the report is made to the unit, if the officer in particular was not the one contacted, the officer would then contact the VC and arrange to meet, whether it's on the farm or wherever it's possible. And after statements would be taken and that is how you proceed with the matter. Now if I'm someone who's not able to move about that much, is there a situation where the officer can come to me and then take the report because I'm not able to move around so much? So let's say somebody is working on the garden for me, but then now I get the information. So are you all able to come to my home to attend to that report? We always go to the VC's home, only in a situation where we have transportation problems that we cannot really assist. But then when the report is made, we do go to the VC's. Hardly ever you find VC's coming to our offices to collect statements, we always reach out to them. Now you just mentioned towards the VC, what is the VC? The virtual complainant. Okay and what is the virtual complainant? The virtual complainant is the person whose produce was stolen. Okay, so can I make a report on behalf of somebody else? Yes you can. Sometimes you find workers make reports on behalf of the owners of the farm. Sometimes you find members of the community maybe because probably a person is an elderly person or the person doesn't have a telephone who would make the report on behalf of that person. You have been watching a special edition of Issues and Answers with the Predia Lassini Unit. Stay tuned we will be right back. The climate is changing and it has affected us all. If the climate is getting worse, we will have to take care of all the animals. When the weather is getting hotter, we will have to find a place where we can live. We will have to find a place where we can live and go to their place. This list will contribute a small amount of gas in the space. 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Tuve prieformasyon asupra adaptasyon nasyonal govedement ek demash ho mmimsa apuan po protecti kou ek tuknot setlisiin bagai kote monja vole majo andi danjadan. So gentlemen, welcome back. Before the break, we spoke of so many things, reference to Fredia Lassini, but can you tell us when was the unit established and what brought it about? Well, the unit was established in February 2008 and this was as a result of many reports being made to the Ministry of Agriculture, farmers petitioned the Ministry of Agriculture and the Ministry saw it fitting to bring about a unit called the Fredia Lassini unit. But were these reports not been made to the police before? It was been made to the police, but the farmers would complain that the matters were not taken seriously enough that people thought it was petty and as a result they would not succeed in getting a conviction for the reports that they made. So that is why the Ministry was petitioned and they formed a unit called the Fredia Lassini unit. But now that the unit has been established and you said that the police was not able to deal with it effectively and now the Fredia Lassini unit was established, can you tell me now that it has been formed how effective has this unit been in dealing with these reports? The Fredia Lassini unit has been very effective especially when it just came about. But what we've seen as of late, farmers are really settling the matters, they want to settle the matters out of court. Reason being they said, they indicated to us that all the time they have is to spend on the farm and when they go to court it's a long process and they cannot waste the time in court so they rather settle out of court. Mr. Albert maybe can come in and tell you about our problems we've been having as a result of settling matters out of court. So I guess you would like to share with us the out of court settlement. It is becoming a problem with some of the farmers. In most cases they do take this out of court settlement on a credit basis where a promise was made by the accused to pay the farmer a certain amount for his produce that was either damaged or stolen and later on he doesn't come through with that promise in paying and then the farmer would then come back to the unit and query the man didn't pay him and there is very little that we could do about that. So we are trying to discourage that type of practice. So do you get these situations on a regular basis? Well right now after numerous discussions with some farmers who make report it has lessened a bit so we have always advised them to take the matter to court we have mediation now in court the lengthy process that used to take when you have matters before the court no longer exists you have mediation you make a report and the report is investigated if there is sufficient evidence to take it before the court we take the matter before the court sometimes the farmer may have to come to court either sometimes twice or even if three times maybe that's all and if they have decided to deal with it through mediation it's an easy process but we rather the court deal with it and the mediation process is part of the court court system because you will be fined but they are wasting what they would consider to be wasting the term of court would be much less So we'll just deal about mediation dino kisaki mediation abatoa puse muna bienkopen kisaki kai feth si yo paveli ale through normal process la majestwa kai vo yo through mediation Mediation is a process union a court la acholma puh tutka kaa barai kote muna vole za muna jadeyo puh tutka ek isa a process de vitma o paragasbi etelmata ko luta pumudi desendodias kumifua kwa avan So sile kisla kuye pwemi juwa majestwa kai maddo su kai vole ale through mediation ek mata sa la ek si si muna dako yunipu dako kotla baka jasbo unpu dako pudi wi nuka ale through mediation ek mata sa la yukai bawa dat ni muna tifabi potla ek muna tibweza muna ek yukai acidla ekanlut muna adah asham ek yukai desidi kumanya yukai hendel kasa bong jasdi desi muna nipu dako mi si yuna si muna padako mi nuka si yun si muna padako nuka ale through entire court procedure So saa means nuka evi ebu whole process la wi whole process la whole process la mi am si muna kapili dako puh mediation na paspeson pavli muti desend yukai si yunsi bakaila yukai dako puh ashae except si muna pili not guilty kumanya ekipavili evi ale through toot bagailu nuka ale through sa Now I was just coming to say that some of those persons might see that because they they may not agree with the with what is being said at mediation that you are now sending them through the normal process they might just say well since I have to go through that process let me just settle it out of court or finish with that but you have answered it and I think Miss Mitchell was waiting to say something Yeah I wanted to highlight that we cannot settle matters out of court that decision is made by a judge the magistrate so somebody has to go to court so what we advise persons to do if they want to settle the matters out of court we advise them to go to a JP and the two parties can come to an agreement also I wanted to highlight that predialasini is a sum realfans and we only have six months to investigate this matter and as a result because of that compensation that persons want and they take that decision on their own and when it doesn't work out they come back to us sometimes it creates a problem because of the length of time we have to investigate the matter Can you just say that in in patwa so you know they can understand as well How many cases have been reported to the police that have been reported to the police? We only have six months to report to the police since we have done some realfans so we only have six months to investigate this matter Thank you So this has been a very interesting discussion and I am learning a lot from the two of you this morning and I'm sure the viewers are also learning quite a bit from this very interesting discussion Tell us Do you have since and you just said that you have been very effective Do you have any statistics that you want to share with us this morning? Yes, this morning for the quarter, January, February, March the northern team has received 59 reports this we have not had any conviction so far the southern team has received 72 reports for this year they have had two convictions No, three three convictions three convictions So is that more or less than the previous years? No, it is less It is less Okay, so clearly we have seen a reduction in the number of cases over the years We really would like to speak to more but we really need to end here I want to tell you that we will invite you at some other point to continue to speak on this very important topic and I know everyone is waiting for more from you from the previous last unit Today you've been listening to and watching a special edition of issues and answers with me ASV Elvis Thomas from the police press office and my guest Mr. Pankras Albert coordinator of the previous last unit and Miss Keisha Mitchell supervisor of the northern unit of the previous last unit This has been a very interesting discussion and so please stay tuned next time for another special edition of issues and answers