 You've played and coached against former coaches and former bosses before How different is it or is there any difference getting ready to go up against urban now that he's in the division? No, I don't think there's any difference. I meant You know our focus is on trying to you know prepare for for the Jaguars who have really played well, you know the last few games early, you know, they've gotten out to some leads and Really playing the game. I'm sure how they Had envisioned it Getting the quarterback on the move, you know taking care of the football running the football getting it in their playmakers hands and You know, that's what we're focused on Yeah, I mean, I don't really you know again we Move the ball and we can go back and dissect the game, but you know, I wouldn't say that there would be a good thing about ever losing You know, I try to continue to tell our team that We're third in the league in first downs on offense. We just have turned it over and we haven't you know Scored as many touchdowns as we should have down in the red zone defensively. We've given up fifth fewest You were fifth and first downs allowed, but we haven't gotten enough turnovers and given up big play So that's that's the things that we're focused on Well, he's taking care of the football, you know, he's been efficient in moving the pocket He's you know, been efficient when he's decided to keep it You know on the read plays and you know when he's able to get the run reliefs and throw it out there He's been decisive with the football hasn't really held on to it You know, even though I think the old lines playing well. It's a group that that we're familiar with I don't know if you even do this But do you ever kind of like look around the rest of your division and see some of the situations there and allow that to Kind of give you perspective on how it may not be as bad as it seems here. Yeah, no, I meant you know We all have high expectations and standards and You know certainly work. We're we're 500. We're two and two and we've played well at times. We've played Not very well at times and so we don't really look around You know, I think we can afford ourselves that luxury to say well We have one more win than you know, three other teams. It's just Whatever it may be Sensual to kind of balance out like, you know You know, another team is getting a lot of X plays Do you need to get that many in order to balance it out in order to be successful? I think we need to try to get more points than they do John And so if they're getting them if we're getting them in X plays and great But that that's the focus, you know is obviously playing better down there in the red zone and you know just You know every week not every week but a few weeks where we you know, you come in and say well They had five plays for 190 yards and 50 for a hundred or whatever it was 120 I mean, it's just you know trying to eliminate those You know those five plays or you know a big penalty or whatever it may be that those chunk plays that change momentum That changes field position. Oh, it's easier when you have a guy like Julio Jones or AJ Brown in there But would you like to see maybe some more explosive plays on the offensive side of the ball as many as we can get Kayla? As many as we can get we'll take as many as we can get from from whoever You know and part of that is You know trying to get some some turnovers on defense that that could create some some explosive play opportunities to try to Continue to get them in special teams In a return phase and and we caused the fumble on a kickoff the other day And it just I went right by neck and you know So those are all game changing turning plays that yes, we would love to have as many as we could on offense Don't look back at the quarterback play the ball when it's in the air It's just a 50-50 man. It's not even 50-50. Some of those look like Hail Marys I think we have to play more physical, you know, I mean I think we have to you know I mean if they're gonna get up and get on us and you know grab us and you know play physical that we're gonna have to do that as well You know running great routes and and using some of those you know traffic opportunities when we can and to try to get open and create some space and You know win Derek on Thursday the last couple weeks. What makes that a good day to sort of give him a little break like that And you only got three days to pick so the way practice is scheduled and structured and How much we do on Wednesday as opposed to how much we're doing on Thursday does he need you know When does it the rest come? You know, certainly he's gonna need rest and Recovery so and we'll see how it goes this week We'll see what's there, you know see how he feels and When the kickoff return it I meant we got a block better I'm gonna say it was returner returner air When three guys hit him You know can that Billy white shoes Johnson back there return it if we don't block very well That was Everybody on the practice squad has an opportunity to play we're down a lot of guys and they're down a few guys and you know He's had been multiple and knows a few positions and can play you know inside or outside Or No, I think that would be different, you know, I mean I think You know that would be that would be different You know when you when you move to Nico outside and you rotate with with heroin to Nico and Ola Overuse over to take up special team surely full of rushing well You want it you prioritize the rush and go over special teams Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you know, I don't know what Ryan said I didn't you know didn't read Crow's quotes I don't I don't think that that was a situation. You know, I mean, it's about you know When you start to put other guys in there is how much do they know what they understand based on the game plan? And And then you know Harold and bringing Harold or Danico off the field and you know, I hope that You know when some of those passing situations and certainly, you know, we'll continue to work all in there and you know We like kind of what he's done No, we haven't had any conversations since he's been in the NFL We're focused on preparing this week and going down and Trying to get healthy trying to get ready for a new challenge What did you most take from your time with him and what do you feel like made him so successful as a coach at least at the college level? You know, I coached with for him for two years at Ohio State and I felt like I became a better coach I was a young coach focused on teaching, you know young players and Felt like I improved at that. I learned a lot, you know, we're at a different point in both of our careers now We'll see where we'll see where it goes this week, you know, I'm not sure where we'll be with the active or inactive Yeah, I mean try to play physical and you know, we'll see where he is this week and Helped us on special teams, too What are some of the things that he's done just to kind of see this gradual increase to where he's basically like kind of like a starter now? Well, I mean David is you know me. I would imagine that if he's healthy and ready up for the game. He'll he'll start He's played well he's played fast and We feel like we have a few guys in there that can can rotate and we got to continue to rotate them find some roles for them and Keep them fresh and try to continue to get some production and playmaking ability David triggers on a football and any place Place fast and place hard No, I don't think I don't think there's any reluctance I don't think there's any reluctance to play both of those guys at the same time Roger winning was being evaluated for concussion symptoms in the protocol To the best of my knowledge, yes, he still would be in the protocol see where it goes through this week in practice