 So a few days ago duck duck go made a blog post talking about their Goals for the upcoming year and it was an interesting blog post and I'll link to it in the video description So you can read the whole thing but buried in that blog post There was an announcement of a desktop browser now It's not every day that we see a brand new desktop browser being announced It's actually pretty rare the last one that probably came out was probably brave And that's been around for quite a while now So it was kind of exciting that there was this announcement that we're gonna see a new desktop browser And the thing is is that we don't know a ton about it We just don't there was a grand total of two paragraphs in the blog post Which I'll show you actually right now and literally this is all the information we have on What is coming from duck duck go and several? YouTubers have made videos about this so far and I'm not gonna be this to death There's not a lot you can say because there's not a lot that we know so the question I have to ask is should we be excited about it? and I think the answer to this has to be no and that is also kind of a sad answer because I've Made a video about two or three weeks ago now about how we deserve a better open-source browser because we don't really have a An open-source browser out there that is just awesome like it is a hundred percent awesome across the board has no problems whatsoever Now obviously the the path to perfection is an impossible path to tread So expecting a perfect browser is is only going to lead to Disappointments so the thing is though is that competition is a good thing the problem with the duck duck go browsers that it's not going to be Providing any competition at all like it's according to this right here What they're going to be doing is they're going to be building their desktop app around Building their desktop app around OS provided rendering engines. I don't know what this means I don't know what it means if this was like iPhone I'd understand because iPhone has an OS provided rendering engine no other Operating system that I know of has an OS provided rendering engine None of them Linux doesn't have it Mac doesn't have one Windows doesn't have one now Mac and Windows come with browsers That's true, but those aren't like I don't think that you can consider those OS provided rendering engines They're not meant for other people to use not not in the way that the iOS rendering engine is meant to be used like a On iOS Apple enforces the use of WebKit across the board you can't use anything else But that's not the case on Mac or Windows and really and especially not Linux So what on earth is an OS provided rendering engine in those cases? Does that mean on Mac OS they're going to be using WebKit and on Windows They're going to be using chromium based rendering engine that makes no sense right because why would you go through and create a browser? That is supposed to be the same across Platforms and then not have them be the same like how how are you going to deal with? Extensions, how are you going to deal with the fact that the internet is rendered differently? Depending on what rendering engine you're using it doesn't make any sense whatsoever It sounds like a they're just making a ton more work for themselves than what really needed to be so should we be excited about the duck-duck go? Browser, I don't think we should because I don't know what it's going to be I I can't be excited about something that we really don't know what it means because this makes no sense whatsoever Why would they go through the pain of? Basically building two different browsers Because that's what they would have to do they'd have to build two different browsers and they've already done this once they had to build one on Android and they had to build one on iOS and they're using different rendering engines So they're gonna go through and do that two more times And then what are they gonna do for Linux because Linux does not have an OS provided rendering an engine it doesn't I don't I mean It does anything any rendering engine can run Linux if they want it to but there's not one that's provided by a single distro I mean because we don't have us a single distro We have 12,000 distros and they all I mean some of them most of them come with firefox, of course But several distros come with brave some of them come with but pale moon Linux doesn't have one And I don't think you really can say windows or macOS have one either because like I said the browsers that are on macOS and windows aren't meant to be used by other applications I not in the way that this is Being talked about now. It's different on iOS, but it's not it's not the same on the desktop It's just not at least from the way I understand it now. I mean obviously apps can use Safari to launch websites But that's just you that's just providing an app link or an app hook to another application It's or even if they do render something like inside their app, but and but use Safari to do it That's their choice. They could have used something different on macOS That's the I mean macOS is much more open than iOS and you can use whatever they want I don't understand why duck duck go is limiting themselves to an OS provided rendering engine if that exists when they could have just Done something different like fork firefox. I mean that's the solution for this, right? It has to be the solution I don't think duck duck go is big enough to make their own rendering engine Maybe they are if I mean I would love to see them try But the solution here was to fork firefox. There aren't enough firefox forks out there They could take firefox and make it good and make it mainstream. They have enough money to Market a new browser. They could have saved a ton of time by just taking firefox and Forking it it would have been a great solution I think instead of this wishy-washy Whatever the hell they're going to do and that's I mean that's the thing I guess I've always had a problem with companies that pre-announce things But don't actually give you any details Nintendo does this all the time or at least they used to they'll announce a game I'm how the whole game industry does this all the time they'll announce a game that gives you like a five second Glimps of what the game is going to be and then literally no other details and then it doesn't come out for ten years Like you know it's like this is oh look this is what's coming in the future I hate that and I've always hated it the fact that duck duck goes not doing this like why did we need to even know this if You're not gonna give us at least some information and the information they gave us is so utterly confusing That it seems stupid like this doesn't seem like a good idea at all So a rambly video for a topic that I think probably is is gonna be talked about again Many times in the future because eventually this browser is going to come to Linux and I'm gonna try it and it's gonna suck I have a feeling I just have a feeling that's going to be bad. I mean they said it's faster than Chrome, but That seems like marketing speech to me like I know I'll believe it when I see it You know, I mean a lot of a lot of browsers have claimed to be faster than Chrome Even those ones that are basically based on Chrome. I mean seriously like Edge says it's faster than Chrome I don't know that it is but they say it these companies can say whatever they want And I think that that's the bottom line is that we're just gonna have to wait and see And maybe hope for the best, but I don't have a lot of high hopes I'd be much more excited if this was based on Firefox like if they'd forked Firefox and said hey We're gonna come out with a Firefox based browser. That is awesome. I'd be like cool. Sign me up. I want one but Appreciate that if you've done that already you can follow me on Twitter at the next cast You can support me on patreon at patreon.com slash Linux cast before I go. 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