 introduce themselves who has not been here before we are advisory to the development review board we will hear the applications and move them forward to either administrative approval or board approval as required do I hear a motion to approve the agenda second all in favor of the agenda raise your hand and welcome introduce yourself since you're benching okay our first application is 4105 State Street state of Vermont buildings and general services is anyone here to represent them come up and have a seat and introduce yourselves property management buildings and general services COL and Stephen Fry property management buildings and general services as well okay and describing the parking lot yes yeah and we have an application for you for 10 permitting spaces and plus that one handicapped space with a very temporary mindset we understand the landowners gonna start building their construction project at some point soon perhaps April or whenever it might weather-dependent so this is weather so right I think maybe the ground has to fall and stuff like that so I understand we kind of since there is a parking shortfall Taylor Street going offline there was some arrangements made that we were Diane and I weren't necessarily part of the arrangements but this say has opened a lot that it's on a temporary basis starting right after or around the legislative session kickoff and it's in place as we speak with barriers and some of the elements that are part of our application so we're here to talk about our application and all that and see if you have any questions yes yeah and the hours of use are in the big time like there is no after-hour use place it seems like you've already got signage up there it was previously approved or some kind of barrier there or anything yeah so these are all just jersey barriers set in place well and if you had other things that you want to go in or some adjustments that anybody else have any questions suggestions I was just gonna say a kind of a working model and actually Steve and I wanted it today it's just a piece of the proposal yeah really yeah and we we think that some of the science in fact we may need to move some of the science around to comply with our permit drawing a bit and so we're coordinating that with our department so anyway yeah was this exciting to have the capacity and short term basis to help out yes I know that we had questions that we mark in our office was working are you married yes okay hello and I don't know if you have any questions following up from the stuff that you were talking about I'm good anybody else have any questions suggestions in that case I will run through there's a set of criteria we have to go through to evaluate the applications as we go preservation a reconstruction of the appropriate historic style improves projects in the historic district involves in historic structure I wouldn't call this historic style but it doesn't apply in this particular case harmony of exterior design with other properties of the district temporary parking barriers are acceptable compatibility of proposed exterior materials with other properties of the district again temporary barriers are acceptable compatibility proposed landscaping not proposed in this application prevention of the use of incompatible designs building color schemes or exterior materials acceptable in this location for this purpose location and appearance of all utilities no lighting or anything and I think there's street lighting there anyway probably so that's not applicable either recognition of and respect for view quarters and significant vistas including gateway views of the city and state house again the temporary parking barriers are acceptable all in favor of the application as proposed well yeah administrative approval good thank you all thank you for coming have a wonderful evening and thank you for your service for the city stay warm yes in our next applications for 36 College Street I'm assuming that you and introduce yourself kate why I okay and in fact I've been working with Steve so okay he may just be able to fill in if there are additional questions that I don't have okay so again you're using tennis court or temporary parking correct you just sort of describe it so we were approached by the state to potentially house the agency of transportation that was displaced by the fire and national life it's temporary it's a swing space as they make their way to their final location and because of the square footage calculation and just because of the number of people potentially that it might be we were looking at putting about 25 parking spots in that area to accommodate that the college has an interesting schedule where it's sometimes totally full and then other times not at all and because of that ebb and flow I'd really like to be able to offer the state a location where very close to the buildings that they're looking at where they it's dedicated for them so it's easier for them to be able to find parking during their temporary stay I don't know for certain I'm not sure if they know for certain I so I think I wrote give or take one or up to two and it likely wouldn't be that long although this is Timber West spaces will be marked and lot will be sealed afterwards in order to assure there would be no evidence of it right the lines just the white lines that eventually when we can paint them on we would so we could demarkey and then afterwards just reseal it so that the lines aren't there possibly I mean again as part of our previous master plan we had in there the possibility that we might create permanent parking there I think we will put that in our next master plan and whether or not we would do that we'll see so this particular request is absolutely temporary based on having this potential tenant in those buildings I assume the tennis courts weren't used very often they're not used at all I think I wrote in the application we used it one day for a state meeting that they were holding over at caps and that worked really well otherwise it's just empty you know there's a basketball hoop that one of the schools who rents space from us put there occasionally there are kids chalk drawing riding bicycles but because we would be using it Monday through Friday only for the state it would still be available on weekends in the early evenings there is a basketball court right this in the back and that's still going to be there we would the parking places would not be touching the basketball court area it would just be where the former tennis courts were I don't know I I don't think that they have a specific date determined yet correct the permit would be good for two years but that's something that will also hash out at DRB tonight I know that that's going to be one of the things that'll be questioned yeah well we certainly don't ever plan to use it as tennis courts again so I think similar to all of our other lots there will be a certain amount of wear and tear that deal with can I it's only been there 50 years so I'm assuming a lot of settlement is already taken and I just addressed something on that because I've researched the past permit history there were requirements as to you know research into how it was graded underneath what the underlying surface was and what they would have to do to then be paved it and it's been paved over as the parking lot like that aspect of the previous permit to convert it into parking was done and then everything stopped so you know I have a feeling that if this were to go on to a longer use the you know department public works would probably take a fresh look at it to take a look and see how durable it would be and make sure that the previous permit requirements for the gravel underneath and drainage and everything have been met any other questions comments suggestions again I can't go through the criteria for this as well number one preservation of reconstruction of the appropriate historic style I would say that's not case harmony of exterior design with other properties in the district acceptable compatibility of proposed exterior materials acceptable compatibility of proposed landscaping and unproposed in the application prevention of the use of incompatible designs buildings color schemes or exterior materials acceptable no changing utilities lighting or anything of that nature so not applicable recognition of and respect for view quarters and significant vistas including gateway views of the city and state house not applicable at this location all in favor of the application is proposed get you to sign that one of the lower left and again this is administrative no this is development review board tonight tonight oh okay yep no I just didn't spot that so yeah that goes tonight thank you all I appreciate your time okay seeing a little bit is anybody have a chance to look at the minutes from January the 7th I care that way I went back and look and I had a picture from backwards in the early 50s when the fire they had a fire there and they had somebody and I'm not sure I couldn't find anything that showed the front of you but when the fire happened there was a fire 70s there were windows there with a lot of small pains matching rules on the side but they were old old casement windows so it's hard to tell what the original was I think we have proved a what I want over one or a two over two which really matches the building next door but who knows what was there but I think that either the small pains I think actually the probably the two over two probably matches again the street front yeah it's more compatible with everything on both sides because the necky building has one over once and the next door in the middle of like this the two over two so but I didn't take the pictures that I have and I actually gave them to the guy over it was just a very interesting point when that fire happened it happened as a legislator from anything area there was a cigarette issue and he was sued by the yeah wow I don't know the result of the capital market yes place or the pedals and things place I've had pedals there's closest closest to the lobster pot building as your comments or suggestions or if that's to what was reported on the state street was the city has some neighbors that I was number it is bright I only hope that wait a second all in favor of the minutes from January the 7th next meeting February 4th right now we don't have any applications for it but it's the house in time okay thing else or your right for a motion to adjourn all in favor raise your hand meeting is adjourned