 Hi everyone. Welcome to this webinar. Today we are going to talk about the educational portfolio that we are offering here at MIT, the Center for Transportation and Logistics. So first of all, let me share with you one of the principles here at MIT and we believe that learning can be available to anyone, anywhere. So first of all, let me introduce the panel of experts I have here and also myself. I'm Eva Ponce. I'm the Executive Director of the MicroMaster Program Supply Chain Management here at CTL and also a research associate at the Center for Transportation and Logistics. With me is Katie Date. So Katie, please introduce yourself. Thank you, Eva. My name is Katie Date and I am the Manager of Corporate and Scale Outreach here at the Center and have been heavily involved in our custom executive education program as well as our standard executive education program that we offer here at CTL. Excellent. Thank you, Katie, for being with us today. My pleasure. And we also have Dan Covert. So Dan, please introduce yourself. Great. Thank you, Eva. So good morning. I'm Dan Covert. I did the MicroMaster Program finishing up last year and I'm now a Master's Student in Supply Chain Management here and I also worked closely with Katie last year on a CCX program with my company. Excellent. Thank you so much. I'm very happy to have you both here. We also have Arthur Arthur is our Community Manager and he's helping to run this event. Thank you, Arthur, for being with us. Okay. So the plan for today, first of all, we are going to introduce who we are and also the educational portfolio that we are offering here at CTL. Katie is going to show you these different options that we are offering. Then we are going to talk a little bit about the motivation, why we need more supply chain professionals. After that, I will go and explain the MITx MicroMaster in Supply Chain Management, how does it work, the structure, the different courses, the impact that we are having on individuals and also on organizations, on companies. At the end, Katie is going to talk more about the customized courses that we are offering here at the center. And finally, as always, we are going to be open to answer your questions, try our best to answer your questions. So then let's start with who we are. Why MIT choose supply chain management at the very first MicroMaster here at CTL? So CTL has been around for over 40 years. And for all of our 40 years, we've been very, very connected to industry and it's always been our goal to create supply chain innovation. And drive that into practice. And you'll notice that in a lot of our research and our outreach that we do with companies. But today, we're here to talk about the education component of those three arms. In the education component, we have many different areas that we deliver supply chain knowledge. And you'll see that in the next slide. So our education offerings range from massive online courses that are very, very rigid in nature to small, very customized programs. Some of them are in person. Some of them are a blended mix of the online and the in person. And then we have the MicroMasters program, which is solely online. Excellent. So we also identify that there is a talent shortage nowadays in supply chain management. There are different studies. The World Bank is one of those that highlight the need for more supply chain managers, more supply chain executive that goes from track drivers to senior positions. So all of their range in supply chain management. Also, they highlight the need for to have more people with better capabilities and better skills in order to lead global supply chains. Have you noticed this also in the company, Dan? Yes, absolutely. And the company that I was working for, it's a very old company. So a lot of people have been there for 20 or 30 years. So their supply chain focus has really developed within the four walls of that company. So while they might know our company's supply chain strategy very well, they don't have a broad understanding of supply chain as a discipline and what other companies are doing. So I think this really helps kind of cater to those learners who want something extra. Excellent. Yeah. And this is why one of the reasons we create this MITx MicroMastery Supply Chain Management for us is also a way to reach learners from all over the world across the world. So there are three principles behind this program. The first is to educate the world for free. This is a MIT CTL principle and it's just to reach students from anywhere and anyone, anyone that has a laptop, a computer, internet connectivity can have access to these courses, enroll and have access to the most of the material. Second principle is to offer a credential, is to offer a certificate for these courses to anyone that pay a modest fee per course. And third, the third principle here at CTL is also to offer these customized courses for organizations, for companies in order to satisfy these requirements on the organizations and company side in supply chain management. So these are these three principles. The MicroMaster is a program that includes five massive open online courses. When I say massive, this means that per course, we have about 20, 30,000 students enrolled in each of these courses. The program includes five courses, all of them about supply chain management from analytic tools to more complex and global supply chain issues. And at the very end of the program, we offer a comprehensive final exam. This is just to assess that the learners has the basic, the basic concepts, foundations in supply chain management before granting the MicroMaster credential to them. So the big picture in terms of contents, we are offering, as I mentioned, five courses. The three first courses are more analytical courses. There is a lot of math. I need to say that these are MIT courses in terms of contents and our master degree level courses. So math are there. Yeah, and we need to be prepared for that. So the first course is supply chain analytics. In this course, we cover from deterministic to stochastic model, and we go through a linear programming models, through regression models, simulation techniques, in order to cover these basic analytic tools that we need to apply in real supply chain problems. So I need to say that all of the courses are very industry-oriented. All of the theory and models that we cover are those that are most commonly used in the industry in order to solve real problems. In supply chain analytics, we cover the main trade-offs between demand forecasting, inventory management, and transportation management. In supply chain design, we focus more on the design of the three main flows, from the material, information, and also financial flows in a supply chain. And then we move to these more complex and more realistic courses, supply chain dynamics. We introduce here the complexity associated to global supply chains. And also, Professor Sheffi covered here risk management and resilience in supply chains. And in supply chain system and technology, we focus more on big data and how to help companies to analyze big data. We cover here database management, also machine learning tools, and finally, enterprise resource planning system in order to help companies to integrate the information flows. So these are the big picture of these five courses. And at the very end, we offer a final proctor and comprehensive final exam before granting the credential to our learners. In terms of cost, each course costs $200. In terms of effort, let's say that on average, our students are spent between 8 to 12 hours per week is demanding. And in terms of the structure, we offer four weeks of content. Then there is one week off. This week is just to prepare for the midterm exam. Then we have a midterm exam, another four week of contents, another week to prepare for the final exam, and a final exam at the very end of the course. So this is how we have a structure. All of the courses and all of them follow exactly the same structure. So, so far, we have offered 16 courses, 16 SCX courses. Currently, we are offering two SCX courses, and this spring, we will offer supply chain analytics, the first course of the program on April the 4th. So we have a student from all over the world. So far, more than 230,000 students have been enrolled in at least one SCX course. As I mentioned from almost all of the countries, they are from more than 190 countries. Today, I'm happy to announce that we are almost about to issue 1,000 credentials, 1,000 MicroMaster certificates. So that is part of the very first MicroMaster cohort that happened last May 2017. And now tomorrow, we are going to release the new certificates for the second cohort of MicroMaster credentials. In terms of the countries, the most represented countries are the United States with more than 20% of our students. In India, we have around 14% of learners. Also, Brazil with 4%, Mexico 3%. In Europe, we have decent representation in Spain, UK, Germany, and then we have a student from all over the world. From in Africa, we have around 5% of our total students are from an Africa country. Asia also is represented and Australia. So let's have a look now about how we deliver these contents in a massive way. So Chris Capples is the alma mater of this program. He created the first course and he is the main instructor of the MicroMaster program. Here, you can see Chris using the light board. This is a kind of blackboard, but it's a window. So you can see the instructor and all of the contents through this nice window. We have a studio here at MIT where we film all of our contents. The good thing of this online education from my point of view is that you can stop the video, you can go forward, backward, you can use transcripts, especially this is a global program. So we have a student from all over the world. Most of our students are non-native speakers. So transcripts are really useful for them. The learners can also download the videos. They can double-speed Chris if we want to be faster. And we can also offer a bunch of different kind of problems. We are offering quick questions, practice problems. So there is a lot of opportunities to learn a concept and then to apply this concept in different kind of problems. So we typically, we offer multiple choice checkbox questions and also numerical problems. Also another type of more fun problems. The good thing with all of them is that you can try several times. You have different attempts. But at the end, you are going to see if you are correct or incorrect. And immediately you have this feedback and you have also an explanation. So you can understand if you are struggling with a problem, you can learn about that. And this is something that I think is helping most of our learners. And studies have really shown that that instantaneous feedback helps the concepts really sink in a lot better for people and it helps them to really understand. So I think that's probably one of the biggest things that we've learned about those types of programs. Yes, totally agree. We are also offering some interactive problems like this. This has been created by Konor Makowski. Konor is one of our digital learning here at the center. He created these fun problems that allow us like a classical linear programming board problem. But now you can play with the different parameters and you can see the effect of this change in the parameters, in the constraints, or the change in the objective function and see how you can maximize the profit of your organization in a very fun way. So we are very excited. I love it. It's called sandbox because it makes it kind of fun. Kind of fun. So we also have different ways to interact with our learners. The discussion forum at the very beginning, learners are like, I'm so happy to be here. I'm from Brazil. I'm from India. I'm from Bora Bora Bora. Okay. Everyone is very happy. The first week of content is like, can you help me to solve this pipeline? So this is also fun. But what I found in these forums are very good insights, very good questions. We have a lot of supply chain professionals enrolling this program. So they are bringing this reality to the program. The students are helping a lot. We also have a great team of community teaching assistants, very active, very helpful and trying to solve all of the questions that we receive in this discussion forum. So I can say that are very active. So Dan, you have completed with us the five courses. Would be surprised you more in this online program. Yeah. So I think the coolest thing about it is how you can fit it into your life. So if you go get a formal classroom education, you know, it's Monday and Wednesday from 1 to 2.30. This sort of education you can kind of take whenever you want. So I can do an hour here or an hour there. And I get that instantaneous feedback that Katie talked about. I thought incredibly valuable. And also it's kind of as you're showing right now, the discussion forums are great. I mean, if you're in a classroom, you maybe have 20 people that you can ask a question. How often are you are you learning something and there's potentially 20,000 people that can help you with what you're trying to figure out and all coming from different backgrounds and sharing different insights is something you can't replicate in a classroom. I found fantastic. I think too, for the students that are afraid to like raise their hand in class to have that discussion forum and to not have to be like afraid. I think that takes that barrier out for them as well. Yeah, definitely. I agree because they are really, really active. Yeah, they're not afraid to ask questions. I can't tell you. So yeah, so the program is having impact on individuals, definitely on each of these individuals. Here is like a summary of this impact that Arthur has prepared for us. We have a student, they highlight that they are watching the videos at night. They are learning some specific concept and the day after they are applying in their day to day job. So this is something for us that is very, very something that we really appreciate to hear because as I mentioned, our approach is very industry oriented. So Dipty, she's also a blended student. As Dan, she completed the five courses and now she's taking the blended supply chain management program here at MIT. There is also an impact on business. Currently, very recently, we signed an agreement with General Electric. So General Electric is sending 35 employees to our program as a way to offer them a training process and development program in supply chain management. These students, they started last fall in September 2017 with SC0x supply chain analytics. Now these employees are doing SC1x and by the end of this year, they will complete the five courses. Some of them are thinking also to take the blended program and are thinking about to apply to this blended program and another good thing with this collaboration with companies is that General Electric is also granted interviews to those micromasters holders in Massachusetts. So this is another way that companies is also recognizing the micromaster in supply chain management. In terms of the value proposition, we believe that this is a way to retain quality talent in your company to promote their career development and also to train them in specific tools and techniques in supply chain management. As I mentioned, this is especially helpful for those companies that are global companies because we can reach employees wherever they are. Also, I think helps employees to create study groups and to engage more and collaborate more with their colleagues. As I mentioned before, it's also a pathway to earn a master degree in different universities. Here at MIT, that is an example, Dipty is another example. We receive on January the 4th, 40 students, blended students here at MIT, the Center for Transportation and Logistics. Zaragoza is also offering a blended program. Misi is also the center that we have in Malaysia. They are also offering this blended education. Other universities in Australia, in the United States, in Latin America, they are now recognizing the MicroMaster as a pathway to earn a master degree in many different universities. It's also a way to earn this master degree. In summary, the benefits we can see for companies and organizations is that any employee can join and learn specific techniques in supply chain management. It's very flexible. You can watch the videos at night. This is good and bad, I know. But you can watch the videos at night, the weekend, whenever you have a slot to do that. The question is, these are massive courses. The schedule is the schedule that we already have. Unfortunately, we cannot extend deadlines because we have thousands of students, so course deadlines, contents, every single thing is already predefined and structured and is rigid. The price to complete the program is very modest. As I mentioned, $200 per course, a total of $1,200 for the whole MicroMaster program. We are offering batch enrollment for companies now. This means that those companies that want to send more than 10 employees as a verified student, those students that are pursuing for the certificate, we can manage this batch enrollment. If you are interested in that, just send me a note and we will work with you directly in order to have this batch enrollment for companies. As Katie mentioned, the online learning and immediate feedback is one of the things that we really found very powerful in terms of learning and education. Also, I think it's great to have this growing community of learners interacting and sharing knowledge in supply chain management. You completed the five courses, but you also participate in the design of a custom course in their case. Let us know a little bit more about your experience. Sure. When I had enrolled in the first course, a colleague and I were both taking it at the same time, we said, wow, this is incredibly valuable. What we are learning in here, we are translating to our work the next day and we are seeing fantastic benefits. We went to a bunch of our other colleagues and we said, everybody should do this. This is a great tool. We need to get our whole department into this. I think the next course, 30 people signed up for the first week. After the second week, I think there were 15. After the third week, there were two. It's a big commitment. It's a very rigid structure. You need to be fully dedicated to the MicroMasters courses. That being said, the content is excellent. We thought, okay, how do we get this great benefit to all of our employees? What we did, we partnered closely with Katie and with Jim Rice. We worked on creating a course that fit with the schedule of our team. Instead of eight to 12 hours a week, what we did was scale it back a little bit. We did one lesson per week. Two hour video with the discussion so we could play the content and we could stop and discuss amongst ourselves. I think one of the challenges sometimes with the online courses is you're there alone. You do have the forums, but you're not having direct interaction with anybody. We would play the videos. We would pause them. We would discuss. We would work through a set of problems together every week and we would have the full community working on it, which is great because within our company, not everybody has a bachelor's degree, not many people have a master's degree. People are coming from all different places on the spectrum. Some people hadn't done math in 20 years, I remember. Trying to find something that really fit within everybody's lifestyle. Not saying, okay, take time away from your family at night and work on these courses. We were going to make it a priority within our business. Five or six hours a week, we were going to stop our normal business and we were going to just work on this MIT education, which had tremendous value. It was starting conversations that we would never would have had otherwise. It got people looking from an outside perspective, but it also fit right into our structure of the week. There was no at home time. People could do the course with the comfort of their colleagues around. People are struggling together and now they're having those conversations where it's not, I'm not at home thinking, oh, wow, I'm so dumb. I don't remember any of this stuff. It's okay. We're all in the same boat together. Let's learn from each other and help push that forward. Because we created the program on your schedule, we were able to pause the program during, I think it was for Easter, right? You had a really busy week and so that week there were no videos and there were no discussions so that you could go back and focus on the business and then the next week we could pick the course back up. Exactly. Again. Yeah, it really fit very well into, and also what you had said earlier, we didn't need all of the content. We were working with the demand management team and so we really wanted to focus on forecasting and inventory models. We worked and we took out some of the content that might have been a little math heavy and scared some people away and we kind of just tailored it to what the needs were at that time. Right. We were able to offer two different versions of the course too. Those who really wanted to go after it and get as much content as they wanted, they were able to take one version of the course and then those that were just there to really enhance their knowledge were able to just do the basic version of the course. And that's something that for all of you HR professionals out there that are wondering like how can I make this work in my organization? We did that really well for Dalhaze and we've done that for other companies as well. Yeah, and I would say also that the combination of online education with in-person education helps a lot because online you can pre-define these basic concepts that you want to deliver. You can have different kind of difficult practice problem with different level of challenging problems and then in person you can also define certain sessions to discuss more complex problems. Right. And it frees up the time to do things like play the beer game or do case studies. We were able to have Dr. Chris Campos come and really go over the final exam with all of the students and be in person and spend that one-on-one time. Whereas if everyone wasn't on the same page to start with, we wouldn't have been able to have that sort of in-depth conversation. And also connection with industry. So remember, we did a call with Hershey's. We did a call with CH Robinson. We had different CTL partners do a video session with 75 people in our demand management group so they could ask and they could get that outside perspective. They think as we talked about it at the beginning that was really what we felt we were lacking. We were focused on our core business. We did that well but we didn't know where the industry was. So being able to connect with other industry professionals I thought was incredibly valuable. Yeah and have that open forum where you have permission to ask those questions whereas in a lot of cases maybe you'd be a little afraid to ask your partner or your vendor those kind of questions. We broke down those fences so that was really valuable. Excellent. So now we are going to move to these CCX courses. Yeah so just to remind everyone kind of where we've been. The foundation of education here at CTL is really the master's program. That's our residential program. That's the 40 students that come. They're here in August and graduate in May. We've also talked about the blended program which blends that residential experience and the micro masters experience into one program which Dan is a part of. There's also the micro masters option of taking all five courses that's very rigid. It's on a schedule but you as HR professionals you're probably wondering again how can I do a course like they did at Del Hayes or how we've done that with other companies. So so far we have created if you look at the bottom right quadrant the CCX courses that are completely flexible. They're completely customizable for about 10 to 12 different instances right now. And so far we've educated about 500 learners in these different options. So for you as HR professionals you can look back at the courses that Ava has talked about and we can take little pieces of those programs and really bring it together. And for example if you're located in Europe then maybe we do a completely online program and we have some of these live events or you know if you happen to be up in Scarborough, Maine then we have an opportunity to come and do some more in person experiences or maybe for your company the reward that you want for your high performing learners you want to give them the opportunity to you know take 10 weeks of these online programs and then come to MIT for a week and that's like the epitome. All of those different options are available and you can see some of the different cohorts that we've had so far. But I think this is maybe now a good time. I've seen a lot of questions roll through to maybe go through some of these questions. Definitely. Yeah. Okay so Giovanni asks what could some of the best practices or suggestions to manage the fact that usually supply chains evolve over time? I would recommend Giovanni to enroll in SC3x supply chain dynamics. This is a course that covers exactly these content and these complexity in supply chains. So I think the best way to learn about these practices is to be enrolling SC3x. Yeah. Okay. Elmar is asking can I get visibility for who within my company is signing up as the key contact for MIT? Whom do I have to enroll that I'm the key contact? Yeah definitely. For batch enrollment the key contact send me a note directly to me or to Arthur any of us we will reach you. In terms of the visibility of the cohort we always have a contact person on the company that is the person that we work together to make this possible this batch enrollment and then definitely this contact person will have visibility about the cohort for instance GE the 35 people will always share aggregate data about this cohort with the contact person that we have at GE. But that's only for people that are either enrolling through batch enrollment or have provided their company email address. We realize that there's a lot of people out there who have enrolled they're part of your companies out there but they're using their personal email addresses so there's no way for us to identify those people. Only the company support the program and send the employees as a batch enrollment we can track this. As Katie mentioned we have people from most popular companies but as an individual learner so yeah in this sense there is no way for us to track these individuals. So Alman is asking which you are looking to cooperate with you to teach this course through their university? Yeah absolutely just reach out to us one on one that's something for customized courses reach Katie or Jim Rice. Yeah definitely we will contact you for universities and collaboration with universities here at the office of digital learning Tracy Tran she's the head of MicroMaster and she's the person that is working directly with other universities in order to have these partnerships and agreements to recognize the MicroMaster as a path way to earn a master degree program. So just send a note to us and we will forward you to the right person. Okay so Wolfgang actually has two questions for us the first is what percentage of the course documents are downloadable? The percentage of the documents any single thing you can download the slides you can download the videos the practice problem is the only thing that you cannot download you can print it and definitely the thing that you never can download are the exams because this is an individual work that we want anyone to share with no one so no way to share that but the other part of the materials everything the key concept document you can download the PDF you can download the slides you can download all of the material. Okay Wolfgang is asking if you can talk a little bit more about like the logistics behind batch enrollment how does it work? Yeah this is just so we work directly with the contact person on the on the company the company sent us the list of people that they want to enroll in batch enrollment we work directly with edX in order to buy the let's say that the company wants to enroll 50 people so we we directly work with edX in order to buy the 50 coupons so we are going to send a coupon code to the contact person at the company and the contact person distribute this coupon code among their employees right so ECC is not a complex process is you have to work together in the list of learners generate the coupon codes and share that. So Elmar is asking at their particular company batch enrollment is not an option because the company will only reimburse the class after it's happened and is asking if there's still another option you can take MicroMasters without enrolling. Yes indeed most of our students are doing in this way they are taking they are paying for the fees directly and then they are asking the companies for reimbursement so this just depends on the company's policy from from our perspective it's very easy you just need to enroll have an edX account enrolling the course pay directly and then ask for the reimbursement in your company so I'm yeah a lot of our students are doing that too. Okay Wolfgang is asking if there's a research part of the course and does he I'm doing a T have to submit essays or papers? No more no no specific research not for that those people that apply to the blended program they need to to include a proposal for the capstone project that is a kind of essay but this is not part of the MicroMaster by itself it's part of the application to the blended program. Okay so Dan this question is specifically for you can you talk a little bit about the difference between the online learning versus the learning that's happening here at MIT? Sure so I kind of um as I said a little bit earlier online you you can do whatever you want so when I was taking the courses online you know I was I would work all day and then I would find two hours at night you know a couple nights a week to to take the courses or I would find a couple hours during lunch to take maybe not a couple hours I would find some time in the middle of the day to work on the courses so I think the the level that the courses are taught is very similar to what we're doing here is as Ava said they are MIT master's courses so the content in the course is is the same as what we're doing here I think the way you interact with it is a little bit different because I'm taking it online I'm taking it at my own pace I have an assignment every week I'm getting instant feedback that's that's probably one of the biggest differences I think in a formal education setting you often might get feedback at the end of the semester when you get your grades back but in the best case yeah but you're not getting feedback right away so online you know exactly do I know this or do I not know when I'm doing the assignments so the experience here has been fantastic it's been it's been very much different because I have a cohort of colleagues that I'm working with every day it's a lot more group based work um is the learning that we're doing here so a lot of problems that I'm working on with my colleagues so more focused on that team building that dynamic I think that's it's kind of we talked about the the transition to the blended program in the blended program we try to learn a lot of those skills that you can't teach online so it's leadership it's group dynamics it's working with teams all of these different concepts that are are pretty difficult to teach online to teaching technically online is is great so I've learned and the fundamentals that I need to do well here online and then kind of bring that together with the more personal side during the blended program it's been really good yeah and I wanted to add also that the quality of people the the the people that has been admitted to the blended program are outstanding exceptional this was super tough for the selection committee to to select these 40 people to for this blended program because they they are high performer and outstanding people so I I imagine that this interaction with with these outstanding learners is something amazing great I think the diversity of the blended program really I think it's what 23 countries represented amongst 40 learners yeah which is an experience I'd never had which I don't think you could get anywhere but here now yeah um Eva can you talk a little bit about the certificates that are issued after each individual course that people are taking and then the certificate and proof that's available after definitely so uh after completing each course we granted a certificate per course so the only thing you need is to pass the grade assignment to pass the final the meter exam pass the course in terms of grades pay for the verification fee and be ID verified and if you meet these three requirements that you are then you are going to earn a certificate per course once you completed the five courses then you need to take this comprehensive final exam and after passing this final exam you are going to earn the micro master credential but you can just speak one course has the certificate for this course or pursue the whole program is flexible in this sense okay um it looks like the last question how long does the process take to set up a custom program and how many people from my company need to be included this is for you okay yeah this is for me um so the process to set up a custom program um it really depends on the company so uh the first step is always um I sit down with the company and we talk about what is the goal you're trying to achieve what is your main objective um group are you trying to teach to are you looking for solely an online course or are you looking for some in-person engagement we always try to steer companies towards more blended engagement if possible just because like you said there's some things that can't be taught online um and so once we sit down and do that it really just depends on the amount of content that they're bringing in we've had companies that want to bring in a tremendous amount of content and want a lot of customization that takes a while um whereas we've also had companies who you know just want for example just the supply chain finance just the two weeks put it in a custom course deliver it that's very quick um in terms of the number of students involved we've had as few as 15 students all the way up to you know over 100 students be involved so it's really really customizable to the specific company yeah I think another nice thing about that that we found is that it's customizable and it's it can evolve so we're starting to teach a con some concepts and we're going down one direction and we're we're realizing from our learners that you know this isn't so useful for them or this concept is a little a little bit beyond where we want to go we could we tweak the course I think quite a few times in the moment to say okay next week we're going to switch it to this content instead right and another great thing that we were able to do is when we did identify that people maybe needed a little bit more time we were able to stretch it out and give them more time and put it on pause whereas in you know the micro masters you don't have that luxury because you have 20 30 000 learners you can't put the course on pause I would say that the three main things are content how how much content do you want to to to have in this customer's course the duration and also the amount of in person teaching that they want to have these are the three things that really make the difference in between one and the other yeah absolutely so kind of in summary for everyone out there I think that we really have an educational option that can fit every single person out there depending on what you're looking to do and we're all really excited to talk to you about options for how to educate the world in supply chain because that is our goal definitely just a reminder that on April the 4th we are offering the first course as part of the micro masters so now is a great time for those companies considering enrolling in the micro master program to be enrolled in April as Katie mentioned we are very fascinated about this program and having the opportunity to reach people from all over the world also learn from them about supply chain management so yeah anything else Dan final thought yeah I mean I would I would definitely recommend it for anybody out there it's a great way to get education to your company it's a great way to engage with your workforce as well I think one of the great things that we found is you know when we're going about our day-to-day business we don't necessarily build the same type of relationships that you build when you're working on a really complex problem together and when you're learning from each other so having that level of engagement and having people you know I hate to say it but like be educationally vulnerable so they're going to something and they're saying you know I don't I don't know how to do this that's often a hard thing to say in the workplace so to say you know I don't know how to do this let's work on this problem together and let's come up with a solution and then let's take this to our business I think being able to apply the concepts from the micro masters courses directly to our business was so valuable to us and it really helped build a community around you know we're struggling with these problems together week three is really really hard we're in it together thanks but we're in it together and we're going to go through it and then you know be better afterwards super thank you so much Katie thank you so much to them this is great um yeah we will send you a follow-up email between today and tomorrow with all of the links and the presentation any additional questions that you have do not hesitate to contact us to Katie to Jim to myself um yeah that's all thank you so much okay and have a great day