 Next question is from Jose M 279. What are your thoughts on fitness trackers? How do you think they are best used? Yeah, so I know you guys are really big, you know fans of fitness trackers I didn't use them a whole lot in my career until you know relatively recently You know the thing I like about fitness trackers as I've used them more recently is just they give you a better idea of Your activity levels. They're not like the super accurate, you know that don't look at them like that But rather look at them as giving you kind of a picture You know a wide view of what's going on a lot of times people think differently than than reality, you know, I remember When body bug first came out years ago, this was that one of the first Legit fitness trackers and you know, we would mess around with it with clients And I remember I'd have clients that we would notice that on the days that they worked out They would actually burn less calories than on the days than like on the weekends Which sounds kind of crazy and you'd never guess that like I would never have guessed That they would burn more calories on the weekend than they did During the weekend they were working out But then when we broke it down because once we saw that data, I said, okay, well, what's going on? Is the machine broken? What's going on? I would start asking questions. Okay I know you train with me Monday for an hour. How active are you the whole rest of the day? Yeah, what did your day look like? Oh, oh, you're sitting all I drive. I sit at work all day long Okay, well, what did you do Saturday because Saturday you burn tons of calories? Well, I washed the car Mowed the lawn. I went to the mall went shopping, you know I was out on my feet all day till about five or six o'clock at night and then it became quite obvious to us Oh was all this extra activity that you were doing that wasn't even considered a workout But you were burning a lot of calories that kind of awareness can help a lot Yeah, I just look at it as acquiring more metrics more data And if if that really drives you into a healthy place, you know I'm all for it if it's if you're that kind of deep like attention to detail oriented type person where I Not have trained quite a few clients like this They're into Strava and they're into all these like crazy Analytics that like your average person like doesn't keep track of every single rep You know that they're doing like I used to have somebody that I trained that would actually count all the reps and like Would tell me at the end like how much volume he had and all this stuff based off of our workouts and You know and was driven to to outdo that and like things like that Where it's like a motivator, but for a coach I think it's it's helpful to just be able to kind of plot and put things out there So you actually can see more factors involved in you know that individual because what we're trying to do really is to Establish like what makes them unique and like where their patterns lie behaviors things like that So we can like peer into certain behaviors like You do move more on the weekends and that's an advantage You know and highlight and show you why like how to incorporate that through your week So if it unlocks things like that where you can understand your behaviors better I'm all for it if it detracts you if you get too obsessed with it just like you know I am like if you're talking about You know like tracking all your macros constantly and you're neurotic about it and you get stuck there Like I like that's where I like I start to have a problem with it And I've seen people get like too fixated on the exact data that they're doing to where that's what drives them In all their efforts, so I'm for sure The out of the three of us like the most hardcore about this like this is a mandatory thing for me like for clients It just is and the reason why that is is I believe in my experience that Almost everybody okay, and there's always exceptions the rule, but for the most part, you know 90% of clients that I've trained are stuck in that, you know Salads to talk about the the five steps of awareness or whatever that you always talk about 90% of everybody's is truly unaware and the reason why I'm aware that they're unaware exactly for the first step Right, so they're stuck at the first step Distance and they're and the reason why I'm so confident that is I I still am I there's very few people I've ever trained that have tracked as diligently as I have taken it to a competitive professional level to where they were I mean everything I was for three years, right and I still you'll see you'll see if you watch our old videos and today Like I'm not wearing mine today But I still utilize it all the time like you'll also now go on a kick where I decide like you know I really want to you know take take my fitness up a notch right now I want to lean out for whatever reason and before I do that I strap on my Fitbit again to get in a gauge an idea of my and here's what I have found over, you know Decades of using these tools is that even as aware as I am even as much as tracking than I've done My behavioral changes or my behaviors change all the time, you know The what we're currently doing right now because of COVID I have different movement patterns and habits right now Then just four months ago Four months ago. I made it to the mall at least a couple times in the month I grocery shopped way more often instead of getting it instacarded to my house I was going to the gym where I was having to walk out of the park So my behaviors are oh and I and in that two decades I've had three or four different career changes where different jobs require me doing different things I found out new things about the way I eat and so my eating behaviors change So I'm I'm always using it as a way to check back in with myself and and and to just confirm what I what I might believe Right. Oh, I think I'm doing about this right now. Well, let's track and let's see now In and the thing that I know that like Sal and Justin likes like Lee like the least about these tools and I agree and I think a Dr. Annie Galpin does a good job in his book unplugged kind of discussing this is We we've taken the fitness space like always has taken something really good and valuable and then we've just you know bastardized it now It's like it's this competitive market and there's tons of money to be made in it and everybody's arguing over which one is You know 3% more accurate which one has a better UI which one offers this feature which one attack. It's like, okay That's where this can get so nuanced and overkill for most people like I utilize the Fitbit Literally just for the I want to see my steps that what it's it's estimating that I'm burning in calories right now And that's really it. That's enough to give me a really good idea of my activity level and and allow me to start to build some sort Of a structure diet wise what I don't do is I don't get hung up on the actual number I don't go. Oh, that says 2700 calories. I burn a day. Therefore. I'm gonna eat X amount of calories That's not how I look at the trends. I'm just looking at the trends and because I've done it and when you've done this enough times I know like for me What what what a low amount of activity is what a high amount of activity is what is kind of an average range? what that looks like and so it gives me insight on my current behaviors and my current habits of Exercise my current habits of movement and then it allows me to start to adjust that from there I don't get hung up on the exact number that the tool is feeding back to me I'm using it as a gauge the same way that I use a scale the same ways that I use a body of ever since and I think they are incredible at giving people awareness of what they're doing because just like you both alluded to is Most people including ourselves who are professionals in this field Overestimate or or underestimate underestimate calories and overrace them may activity Yes, every time every time and I still do this today to two decades of being in this space I still am always off a little bit. And so I think they're incredible now If they become something that you are, you know, so attached to and hung up on that It's it's like dictating even neurotic about it because it's functional And and and Dr. Edie Galpin gets into that right like it's it's kind of like this right and I think in his book He actually uses this analogy Before Tom Tom's and What's Garmin's and all the navigation systems came out? I used to pride myself on being the person where once I go a place one time You never have to tell me directions again I just had this like photographic memory of remembering things and street names that just I was really good at that And this when these got popular was when I was about 18 to 20 years old and so once they came on I thought they were really cool. They got it put into my car now fast forward 10 years later I am the worst. Why can't I still super relying on I've lived in San Jose for two decades I still use the damn thing to go to if I go to a new restaurant, even though I'm super familiar with this whole city I still use the damn thing because I become dependent on it so much So you don't want to become like that You don't want to become so dependent on these tools that you can't learn to kind of figure these things out for yourself But also don't be a fool. They help I'm not gonna go to a new city and and go to a store. I've never been to and not use my tool That's why I bought the damn thing I'm not gonna go go get a map out and prove to myself I could figure this out when I've got the resources But I'm also not gonna become so dependent on it that I don't open my eyes and pay attention to my surroundings and learn What the hell where the hell I'm going?