 We had that mired performance from, okay, let me just go ahead and introduce him. He wears many hats. Now, he's a producer, and I know some of you don't know this, but he's a producer. He is, he literally has, I don't know if it's a degree or a master's in aeronautical engineering. He's a songwriter, he's a rapper, he's a recording and performing artist from 254. Ladies and gentlemen, let's put our hands together and welcome on the Bounce Nation, Davuniku! That's what's up! All right, so he's Chris Barber, you can call him Davuniku. Is it Davuniku or Man Davuniku? Accu or lie? Accu or lie. Lovage! Oh my goodness, so good to have you. Bless you Chris. Thank you so much for making time. Thank you. My first time in KBC by the way. Right? For a lie. I mean, what took you so long though? It's been forever. When you hitambo, it's been... Yeah, my mom is watching, I made it. If you want to know, you've made it. The moment you step into KBC, you've made it because like everybody, like every great career, most great careers start here. Like a lot of the people who are doing it, who have already made it, most of them started in here. Right, so let me just take you back a little bit. I know you've talked about your story many times. You're not going to dwell or need a lot, but Najwa, your story, like you're joining music in the back in high school. Yeah, we were. And you're just by chance. So it happened that they're going to music festival. This guy couldn't make it, he was sick and you had to step up to his place. So can you say like by you stepping in and playing this instrument, which only this one person could play, is how your journey in music started? I mean, as I said, it started way earlier. All my influences in music, since I was a kid, my dad loves music so much. Oh, yeah. My elder sister as well. So I feel... Oh, so you come from a musical family, basically? Yeah. People who love listening to music. So I feel the influences were there, peers, yeah. It just happened that your story and music in the Fania, gave me the responsibility to like take on music as something seriously. Yeah. And then first of all, let's just talk about your career in music. We came to know you with that, that's one song, Dovuniku, which is now actually your name. Like, massive, 30 million views on YouTube. When you did that song, did you ever think, even in your wildest dream, that it was going to blow up as much as it did? Not as much as it did, but I thank God and I thank my fans for holding it down. The Kenyan fans, even the aspirin, came through, always come through. Give thanks, yeah. You just hope, you put out something you hope for the best. If you put out a well, then you give thanks a lot. You give thanks, too. If it works out, you give thanks. If it works out, you give thanks. If it works out, you still give thanks. Right? I remember by the self-catchy shot, I remember the first time I heard Dovuniku, the song, it looked a freestyle. Yeah. I actually played it by the, hey, I'm scared. Who is it? I love it because you wish, it has a whole song. Yeah. Then boom, it's going to be a hit. It was a strategy, it just happened by chance. Yeah. When I was shooting the video, one of my fans asked me for a photo. I remember he came for a freestyle lap and told me to do it later. So, I put it out and the rest is history. Give thanks, give thanks. And it just came in, like everyone, everywhere, on social media in real life, everyone is just jamming to it. And you, like for your, okay, N8 was not your first project, but for a song that put you out there, kind of like the big names, like guys, Calligraph, of course, the OG is a big name, and then also... Butrus. Butrus, butrus is a big deal. So, just having the two of them together in that song, do you think that's also contributed to the success of the song? A lot, a lot. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, these are people who have credible following. They had credible following prior to me even being known. So, yeah, it's a good thing. It's a good thing. And of course, with that also comes fame. Were you even prepared? Because you were prepared for that. I'm so confused. Because being a producer for like 10 years before people knew me, I used to put out artists and I don't know how they deal with fame. So, I was just like, come, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do blue print. Yeah, I'm going to do blue print at least. But at least, it's new to me. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say and stuff. But we love it. I don't know what to say. So, in October, then people recognize you. Like, do you just go about your normal life like you don't know what to say? Or maybe you don't know what to say? It has its limitations. I don't know what to say. Actually, before I came here, I was at a restaurant somewhere with students. I was UN, I think it's around. So... They didn't make you pay the bill though. I'm going to be Amazon of what I'm saying. So, bill me. I think we get treated very well. Yeah. We keep our fake vibes. I get me, I move by respect. I respect everyone and I kind of get that a lot. You get it back. So, you receive what you get. Like, you get what you put out there. Right. And now, you've spoken about being a producer as well and for 10 years. So, is it hard when you're working with other producers? Because I can imagine, like, probably when you're working on your own project, you're sort of like a perfectionist. You want these to be like this and these to be... You know, everything has to go your way. Is it challenging when you're working with other producers? The challenge is not being a perfectionist. It's challenging your sensitivity too much about your craft. And I believe every musician out there has that sensitivity that you're always sensitive about what you love. But we always find a way to work together. See, I took Sema because I'm a producer. I can't work with any other producers. I mean, I know and I respect so many producers out there. And yeah, we can work together. We have worked together. You have worked together with many people. And I know a lot of people that inspired you in the industry, especially when you're still coming up, right now we're still coming anymore. So, like, when you're coming up, a lot of people that inspired you, like, Mika, like, of course, which is all you've worked with, B.A., like you and Nimbani. You've worked with the calligraphers, of course, on their own, on Dopuniku. So, among other people, you mentioned, like, Susanna, Oweo, or Susanna, you know? And there's also Shinski. So, have you been able to maybe talk to someone like the Shinski? I don't know if it's true or not. But I was told, and William said, like, you know, in a movie, you can be on my interview when you go and they're like, we'll call you, don't call us. So, it is more like that. So, have you ever been able, like, have you been able to talk to him and do we maybe expect something in future you and Nishinski? I mean, if the time is right, if the vibes are right, why not? But for sure, everybody you're always willing to work with as an up-and-coming, uprising artist, rather. It's a blessing when you get to work with them. I know, and for you, I feel like it was more of a manifestation because it's so like crazy. You talk about Sauti Soul and then like very early when you're just starting out, you have a song with them, with like the end. And then like also calligraph on like that project that put you out there. So, I felt like on that list, you know, Susan and Tuna and I didn't owe me back. Nishinski, and then we're good to go. I mean, lately I've been having so much inspiration from people who are not on the line. I mean, it's a journey as well. So, when you're not in the limelight, you are too known and you have to work with TV and stuff. But when you get there, you start now looking elsewhere. You find there's so much gem. I just kiss one. So, that's been my kind of... I'm not saying that I'm collaborating because I'm a Drake. It's like I'm really looking for gems in here because we have them and people need to listen. We do, we do, we do, we do, we do. And there's a lot of untapped talent, but I don't know, like for some reason, we still have like the same, like people always say, like we have the same people on rotation and everything. So, how do we find them? Like the social media, yes. But like even for you to be able to come on TV, like we have to know about you. So, at some point you have to hit us up and everything. So, how are we going to discover them? What do you think is limiting them? Because we don't want to say much. We have the same names, we play the same songs, but they are these people that we do not know about. I mean, even me, even you, one time no one knew you. Right. At the DJMIG, you know, it's a process for life. I'd say in every calling, there's the putting in work and nowadays when you're doing collaborations, you're not trying to feel like a pest to people. It's just like if I really like your vibe and you're a good person, we work either way. So, if I have a few numbers that can give you attention and people like you, you can continue with your brand. Just the same way Calligraph gave me, or Butrus gave me a platform, you know? And then in the same process, we've been bringing limelights to other people as well. Exactly. And aside from those two, who can you actually, like sitting here, can you say, have helped you in the industry? You know, you're like looking back, like sometimes it's good to give people their flowers when they're still here, right? And sometimes we often forget like who helped us along the way. So, who can you say, like genuinely in the industry for the time you've been here, have held your hand? Hmm. You have to think about it. No, no, no. It's how you put your question, you know? Yeah. Yeah, because it's not a physical holding your hand. Yeah, of course not. I mean, it depends with... Like vouching for you. If I would have... Vouching for me are a lot of people, you know? Even my fans, really. They're the ones who put me up there. When I drop music, they put the numbers up. But I would say I'd reverse that question in being who have I learnt so much from? Right. There's a couple of people. Right? I have a business aspect here. To come out and calligraph me in as well. Structural. Planning how they carry themselves. So, it's things I'm learning from every person that I love their music. Not necessarily close friends as in we chill together with Nini. But, you know, I get that. So, they have to hold my hand everywhere they go. Everywhere they go, yeah. You can learn and you can see how somebody's moving when you apply your calligraphy in a work. Or crafty or other. Right. And so, who can you say would be your dream collab? Like, Saman, like, if you want to do a song with them right now, you'd be like... Like, not that scene. Like, if I die right now, I'm happy. I'm a happy person. So, who's that one person? This is not playing psycho, but I don't know. No way. Or lie. You literally do not notice moving. So far, I mean, there was... There was... There was when I was apprising you, you were like, ah... All I want to know is what's on the screen and stuff. Like, who doesn't know something? Papi, like, forget that. Exactly. But right now, you're seeing... You're getting surprised. It's like you might go somewhere. Right now, it's not happening. And go and meet somebody who's not known with the best song out there. And I'm like, please, can we work together? You know? You like... You love the vibes, you know? So, you don't know. You don't know. There's that inspired collaboration to send you a message. I feel like I'm collaborating with you. You have the power of learning when you're coming, especially when you're coming. You have the remixes. Does that inspire more collaborations and becoming an artist? I'm a non-artist. But I'm a pop artist. Does that inspire the collaboration? If I'm trying to get you to say, the remixes I've been doing... Yeah. It's the little mix that I'm doing. I feel when you come on board, you prepare as I do. For example, when I'm in a wedding. Ah, at home. Yes, at home. Because it's a dope song, but when you came in, I get the stuff of your attention, you know? It's like right now, there's definitely... It's like I'm a trade. Music is a trade. There are people who speak, people who speak, you know? So, there was a time people were talking about me. They're still here, you know? So, when it definitely makes sense right now. If you... Like right now, the dollar thing is going on. Anything happens. President of a country... In Africa, there's a lot of money and stuff. It's going to be my home. So, it's like... It's only natural. I wouldn't say... I'm the aroma to say. I'm the aroma, you know? Because me, to work with an artist, I have first to believe in what they're doing. And I'm paying. They say, I don't want to jump on my side. You know, I have to love the gem. So, when I came in, I said, I feel... Mandy, actually, I knew her before. I told her, I love her. She's been pushing. Yeah, I love your music. And it so happened, the limelight came to me. You know, soon enough. So, it worked too. It is magic. And speaking of other artists, who can you say you're currently listening to right now? Like, for us to take this, you're please, Seizi, who would you say you're currently listening to? Two, five, four. There's a lot. There's this chick called Zaituni Wambui. There's Vijana Barubaru. Ah, yes. Yes, they were here. Like, they are pushing, I love Vijana Barubaru. Yeah, there's a certain guy, I don't remember, who has a playlist, I'm not sure. It's Wasekada. Yeah, Wasekada. And also, the Benzoll's new album. Yeah. It's Vibes. Benzoll has been that guy by the way. I don't know why, I think like, he's good, but I feel like he hasn't just, like, gotten that number one that he needs, no, I reckon. We are in global. Your album, if you launch it, that's it. That's it. Right, and you spoke about like, sometimes someone being a wave, a lefty-doggo, like, you're not being talked to about as much. And we see a lot of people trying to do that. Like, they come up with something, a relationship, they come up with like, all these things, just to make sure that people are still talking about them. Are we going to see you do that? Like, maybe for your... I know you have like, projects coming up. Yeah. Would you ever got that root of I mean... We talk about you for a week, and then you listen. Even if I would, I wouldn't tell you right now. You're not going to spoil. But that's not my... What you take on that, though? I mean, if it works for them, let them do it. You know, I can't crucify anyone. You know, to the man who... But don't you think it's going to get to a point where a boy who cried wolf, though? Like, even if you are serious, people are like... This is what I've come to make peace with things that I don't subscribe to. Because everything. Today, I'm not going to say anything So, it's just like I think of a human being as a dot and you have your circle of influence and then the bigger circle of concern. It's going to change. But the more you grow your circle of concern, the more circle of influence is going to affect your circle of concern. So, to come up with a president is to make decisions what we make. A calligrapher is to make decisions what industries we see as we make things. That is true. I believe in that form of growth. It's easy. But I might say my opinion but I can't say it. I fight for it. Let them do what works for them. Everybody should do what works for them. Come on, push Goma, build a cloud and thank you. I know there are people who do not even post their own stuff. They just release and then they'll probably do one story or something and then they're done. But I saw Don Jazi the other day and there was a video where he was talking about it and he has a lot of artists with Marvin records and he pushes his artists. I do sometimes you see he has posts and everything. So, he was like, if Davido he's been there and he is here and Davido is pushing his album when he's 90. For sure. If Davido is sponsoring his album why wouldn't you do that? It's bigger than everything. But that's pushing. You don't necessarily have to do cloud even though it may work for you or not. But pushing is marketing. If you have a product you have to make it to get it in your client. I don't think it's a good idea to have a showroom or something so marketing is a part of it. What is that one that is called Inception People Have About You? Like what you're doing but then in real life that is not actually who I am. Do you ever get that? Do you have one thing people think that you actually do that you don't actually? Probably. For me people think apart from right now I'm not feeling 100 but most times I'm super loud and everything but when I'm home I do not even know how my neighbour is like I'm super chill. In security, hi, hi, what's up to my house and that's it. But like when I'm out hosting when I'm here and I'm just like so do you have that one thing that people think you say you're a girl Maybe you tell me. He's a ladies man, is it true? Are you a ladies man? No, but you know I have a perception about whoever and sometimes it's probably because of their portray. If I sing a song about ladies and it's trending most people take me as a ladies man. If I sing a song about gun violence and it trends what I do is I meet in person. So you know what I need to take to you. You know what I need to take to you. So I haven't got to I'm so fee and smug but yeah I have just a junior I'm in with ASAP shout out to Ndavu Koo a lot of but on this show a lot of people actually request your songs they actually listen to you a lot we have it's a Paranthetic and Ndavu Niku they are tuned in from Dandora basically they sing high Dandora is watching. So as we talk about that let's talk about your it's not your latest song though this song came out about a year ago it wasn't as in the last year but the video just came out so what took you so long for the video to come it was hiccups right we shot the video and then the director was working with them lost the footage hardest got corrupted you know something so yeah we chill we chill we chill and then my friend Ivan Ivan Odi he's a dope director he loves that song genuinely and I tend to say so even a video he did for Levy Kendra and that video was Ivan so Ivan reached out to me they have this page called Loki it's a company with I think it's Dom Nishanzai yeah so we thought about collaborating on the project and I was like I've been wanting to work with you so we took a few vibes that we Ivan Odi Ivan Odi it's worth it it's so so so so worth it so how would you work with him though he's a good guy chilled, humble for the work he's doing I think he's a good guy but you know Ivan is a dope guy and the team it's called Kalevan Creatives the company he works with the wife as well they're pretty chilled good creatives right so now we have Tetanus and one thing that is consistent about your songs like everyone who knows the record definitely knows Pamela so now in this song I'm like finally bro Pamela I know it's just started out as your ex but right now it is like a persona in your song sort of like you have like you talk it's not just about now one person it's like you talk generally about this in global everyone has a Pamela in their life right you know you look down on you people who put you down on you you are trying to so so tell us what is your name I don't know I don't know I don't know like I'm listening to the lyrics and I'm like y'all but did you guys ever like squash whatever that was did you ever like talk about it I talk about it in my songs that is how in real life you have in real life you have when you black you don't go back you don't go back when you go black come and gilly you move as you go that's fantastic and the song is doing pretty well though Tetanus is doing pretty amazing sorry to cut you short it's not on my page it's on lowkey page so if you're looking for Tetanus look for it at the lowkey youtube page right and as we wind up I want to ask you some quick questions but before you get there I want you to tell me about your creative process let's say for Tetanus when you're creating how do you go about it the whole creative process until the finished product how do you go about it like some people need to seek by themselves they need to maybe travel to a quiet place they need to go to a club loud and noise and all that so how about you when you're creating your creative process my name is Poradip so many times at night I'm just going to use my ideas and I use my phone to record so much because I record the beat idea and there's a beatbox and then now look for a cadence for a career topic and then start writing so you do that by yourself oh okay and even the songwriting like you write your own music yeah yeah I do write all my music oh you write all my music oh you write all my music but when it comes to penning down that is where the problem is I'm a songwriter oh so you can write for other people as well yeah that's something I'm doing and don't worry I'll never mention it so just hit up in the book studios for songwriting services we got you sorted alright so your studio your studio so you do songwriting you do like production and all that everything even doing commercial videos oh awesome alright so actually I'm thinking sort of quick fire why didn't you just do the accent challenge accent challenge I think that would be awesome I think the accent challenge would be great I think I don't know but let's try it so I'll give you a scenario and then you play it out how you will do it come out alright let's try it with the first one how you would behave as a customer how you would behave as a customer when I'm a customer when I'm serving I'm the customer lady and you're in a hurry hey you're a kissy with your head just try it what's inside there what's inside there it's a prano it's a prano it's a prano try it it's not a prano it's a prano next you have to know that I'm a customer but I'm a customer bro I don't know how you would behave as a customer I'm a customer you're a customer you're a customer you know I have a dilemma I want to give it a try words words I don't know I don't know how you would behave I'm jealous yeah yeah I don't know well done we're still going I think he will be a real man Violet TB I ran, I ran and I looked bad, no people Can you give me a benefits even if you won't buy me a drink He is funny. He is 12 years old. That is why he is tall. Come on lets try. He is so tall. Hey! I won't make it. What is this? I am a boy. I am a student. I am a good student. You are a good student? I am from New warriors. I agree. No, that is you I am asking you Okay, let me sit by the way Let me sit No, it is not coming I want to but it is not going to I will not fall for it I am not sure I am sitting in a garage and he is like story I am sitting in a car Where? In a car In a car I am sitting in a car But in real life you want to try it I am jealous I am sitting in a car I am sitting in a garage I am sitting in a car I am sitting in a car It has refused What is? That is all you know That was really bad for all of us Next time we will try something different But do you prefer Do you prefer being called Kasper Like Crispar Do you prefer Crispar or Either but Dovuku is the widely known name Crispar is still my alias Crispar actually comes from my full names Chris Tandy, Chris Sparks And Tandy is a very very very unique name by the way By the way So I am going to contact some of my friends I am going to ask them for their request I will try to make a video on how to make it I am going to watch that You are going to watch the video? Yes I am going to watch the video I am not going to hold it I will make a video I will make a video I will do it Of course I know you have new projects maybe you want to tell us about that I'm giving you guys an exclusive We're doing a song with Jana Barbaro It's going to be the biggest song of the country This year, next year, next year, but one We love that It's a dope song, we ready When is it coming out? It's a two weeks time Jana, what's your name? You had it here first No, I didn't You came here Anyway, so go follow him He's a great killer Go stream His latest song It's not a latest song The video just came out It's called Tetanus Right here on Bounce Nation Keep it here We still have a lot more show for you Do you have any shout outs? Everyone, my fans worldwide I'm up in the sun Manager My manager is Jeff Jeff who Shout out to my mom who's watching as well Mom, shout out to your mom We love you so much And my farm at large And YouTube for coming through We appreciate that Tete nice Bye