 We have an exciting group of panelists with us today from Asia, spanning updates from Taiwan, New Zealand, South Korea, and Myanmar. Our friends from Myanmar are joining us virtually, so welcome all. Each speaker will present for 10 minutes and we have 10 minutes of Q&A at the end. So first up from Taiwan User Group in Taiwan, we have Jai Wan, Ji Ling, and Ge Si, Ji Ling. They are Indigenous people in Taiwan. They started editing on Taiwan Wikimedia since 2021. They have strong ambition to preserve their language and culture through Wikiprojects. Welcome. Over to you. I must say to all of you who have been here for a long time, I would like to thank all of you who have been here for a long time. I would like to thank all of you who have been here for a long time. I would like to thank all of you for having been here for long time. I would like to thank all of you who have been here for a long time. I will once again thank you who have been here for a long time. I would like to let you all talk about the experience and the experience of 할아버지. Tenlau were lying te' moru bayu-li ta' gisu pu kata' llmuri akka mukun. Ula ma san watt ya'll sika sa a pake'll. We taught ke masi tam, pas se lya'fakkiakku farele timali tar topw'o no'a ka racian. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. As I listed in the slide so I wouldn't draw on this. So we have so much diversity and so much more to improve on. So currently I have discovered that there are so many ethnic groups in the Southeast Asia region in Australia, New Zealand, in Europe, even in USA, there are language groups that who are who have interest in Yamaaki, but I would like to invite them to come forward so that we have more content and more sharing in the future so that our community will improve much more in the future. Not only in the region and in the country, but also all the user groups across the world. Let's continue. Thank you. These are the challenges that currently facing. The first one is access to all Wikipedia related sites are blocked in major ISPs in Yamaaki after the FY20, 2021 school. So, most of the user have to use the BBM to get access to their Wikipedia sites. And not only if they use the BBM, they cannot create a new account or edit on Wikipedia because of the made us open policy policy policy. So, after the group, we have planned a web show coordination and already added these to do it in 2021 and 2022 but all of their planned activities are canceled due to the current political saturation. And then, after the group, most of the added Wikipedia, and Wikipedia added us to do those activities. If we, if we edit the NEMAS political related articles with the centered information, we may have the result of arresting because of the military government. Our community is very small and we may notice the BBM may notice who are the added Wikipedia's editor in NEMAS. So, we have the result of arresting if we edit centered information on the Wikipedia's. And the other challenger is every BAMI's editor on Wikipedia's are not in members of our user group. And most of the community is less interested in contributing rather than just reading and finding the fat on their Wikipedia's. So, as of our way forward, we will, we will continue support and guidance for the current contributing text Wiki of NEMAS. And we will like we were frequently promote about the different media bloggers on social media, as in Facebook, Twitter and Telegram. So, we have the plan to credit the IP blog essential rights to the editor Wikipedia's NEMAS, if they are behind it, and the last one, we decided not to organize an event until the current situation is stable. So, thank you for the another hour presentation. Thank you for the lesson. Next, we have Victor. Should I start again? Probably. Okay. Hello, my name is Victoria Lechman, my ancestors come from England, and I live in Wellington, New Zealand. I acknowledge the got a goal of the era nation, the traditional custodians of this land and pay my respects to the elders both past and present. I'm not a speaker of this language, but I will be using today a words within my talk and I'll translate them into English for you as I go. In my 10 minutes, I'm attending to cover the local context of our New Zealand, the setup of our user group, and what we're doing to identify the skill gaps and bridging those gaps for leadership on both a local basis, and also at the EC at level. I just thought most of our editors are working mainly in the English Wikipedia Wiki projects. We've been an affiliated user group since December 2019. The coordination and connection of editors into a recognized user group was a direct result of the New Zealand Wikipedia at large project funded by Wikipedia Foundation in mid 2019. The project's all the editor giant fighters birds roving across New Zealand, running workshops and creating connections between both established editors and training new editors. The outcomes of this project included the establishment of a regular for regular fortnightly meeting in the capital of Wellington, facilitated by me and my twin sister and brosie at 10. I also met up continuing and growing in Christchurch and meetups and training happening on semi regular basis is with with them the rest of New Zealand. I just wanted to say our meetups are different from editor fonts. The regular meetups for Community building, we go around the table and everybody's got a chance to talk about what they're working on and what problems they need help with. It's also finding out what's happening in the community and also the planning events like editathons and Wikicons. And the meetings last about two hours and at the moment are run monthly. Our first year of existence as a user group was 2020. So COVID and particularly New Zealand's long first lockdown was a huge factor in accelerating our progress as a group. Getting lockdown was a positive experience for the user group. Ambrosia Ten and I shifted the Fortnightly Wellington meetup to a fortnightly online meeting and others from around the country joined us and even some Australians joined in. Thanks Annie and Margaret if you're in the room. We loved having you. We've really started to talk to one another and learn who was doing what and what each of us was interested in and how we could support one another. Thanks to the lockdown, New Zealand remained COVID free for the first half of 2021 and the user group set up a subcommittee to deliver three in-person Wikicon weekends using record grant funding each time. We managed to deliver two, one in the South Island and one in the North Island. And then the Delta variant hit New Zealand and we had to cancel the third one. We went back to Fortnightly online meetings so the momentum was maintained. It's only recently that in-person events have started up again and we've shifted to monthly meetups online. The meetup connections that were formed saw the development of a self-selected group of those that wanted to help grow the community and who were collaborative in their approach and were willing to put the time into doing the not-so-glamorous or fun work of administration and organisation. Each of the Wikicons had a session on next steps for the user group and that's when the community agreed that moving towards legal incorporation of the user group was a good idea. A team of people who were interested got together and started to work. This year we've received our first general support grant. We've incorporated, we've got a committee selected and we're in the process of writing policies and funding activities. So we've got an incorporated society with seven committee members from across New Zealand with a wide range of experiences including previous board experience and also deep Wikiproject experience. We have an admin on board and some editors with over 10 years experience. It's a good range of skill sets on our committee. The user group is still benefiting from monthly online meetings where we share the achievements from around the country and have formed about organisational progress events and wider Wikinattas and also help editors. The in-person meetups and response are happening again around the country and the Blaine Wellington Wikicon is being planned for later this early next year. So that's our setup right now. We feel we're really early but we're moving fast. So how do we identify skill gaps in leadership, bridge those skill gaps and plan for the support that's needed? Our focus has been on the committee. If we get the committee working right, then we can ripple out to get leaders in the wider New Zealand community supported better and also identify strategies to fill the gaps. When we drafted our first general support grant application in April of this year, we'd all just been elected. We knew each other but we also didn't know each other very well. We had to spend time thinking about how we were going to work together and what our strategy was going to be. We needed to spend time agreeing the priorities and in order to lead well, we needed to learn the sensitivities of each other so we could build trust. In order to help with that, we organised an in-person strategy weekend with an excellent facilitator who had no experience with Wikimedia but heaps of experience in building effective governance groups. Agreeing behavioural norms on how we will work as a committee, where we will work, the digital tools we were going to use, how fast we were going to work, the cadence and response time we agreed and sharing our individual motivations and experiences built trust and empathy and teamship with each other. Choosing a great professional facilitator and coach was a huge win for us. She organised an agenda and ran the weekend that was flexible to our needs and took advantage of ways in which the group developed and came together to encourage openness and sharing. The committee have acknowledged the value of that weekend and decided that we're going to run it annually so that we'll ensure that any new people elected to the committee get a chance to say what their motivations are and for the group to re-establish acceptable behavioural norms and ways of working that include their views. We've also put an importance on the baseline of understanding in the committee of the Treaty of Waitangi, New Zealand's founding documents. We recognise that we are citizens of a nation with tangata whenua, people of the land and tangata tiriti, people in New Zealand by right of the Treaty. We need to ensure that our koupapa, our principles and ideas that act as a base for action, a way of working, that our koupapa acknowledges supports and provides space to enact and practically recognise to Aoi Māori, the Māori world view. We've got a lot of work to do to ensure that our members have the ability to act from a position of cultural competence within New Zealand. The first step is for the committee to have common understanding of the Treaty. We acknowledge the lack of diversity in our editors within New Zealand. We don't have enough Māori editors or editors of Pacific Island origin. Our group doesn't reflect the demographics of New Zealand. We also have limited numbers of Te Reo Māori language speakers as editors. The first step towards attracting new editors in this space that will hopefully become leaders is to ensure the space in our procedures as an affiliate and the current leaders of our Te Reo and New Zealand community are as supportive as possible to Aoi Māori, the Māori world view and to tangata whenua, the people of the land. And that's where we are right now. I'm also looking at leadership in two ways. Leadership within the New Zealand user group and leadership within the ECAP context. What I'm realising about the New Zealand context is that we're approaching the whole... Our principle is a spirit of openness. We're a new organisation and this is our first attempt at setting up practices. We're going to try our best and be open to improvements or completely scrapping some practices and starting again if we need to. We're looking at that agile methodology. We're looking perfect just trying to get it better each time we tackle something. We're also wanting to remain diversified. We've done our best in the past as a user group over the last few years where we're supporting each other's strengths and when we talk to each other. One of the reasons our user group reports look so impactful is that we're not editing it through one person. Anyone in the group can contribute and edit and add their successes. Lack of central control we see as a strength, not a weakness. As a committee, we don't want to add barriers to our members of the user group when they want to lead. We want to support them. We've got common issues. The affiliate doesn't connect with every New Zealand editor. We'd like to when we're trying to but we don't. We're thinking about what we can do to encourage editors to become members of our affiliate. We know that editors can become organisers and organisers become leaders. Affiliate committees and members are impatient and we want to achieve far more than we have the leadership to get to achieve. We've got capacity issues. I know this is a common issue for most affiliates but we're at that stage of realising this and figuring out strategies to avoid burnout. This includes their prioritising pieces of work or at least pushing out the timeframe for delivery. The seven members of the committee are either admins or key organisers for New Zealand and devoting time to the committee feels like it's reducing organising capacity for events, communications and content projects. It's put pressure on other organisers to do the organising work and that takes them away from their own content projects. We're actively supporting those that are demonstrating leadership outside of the committee, be it in a content development project space, training newbies or in a comms promoting space. We're also actively encouraging people to start organising. This includes approaching people we think might be great new organisers, supporting them to walk alongside experienced organisers and then asking them to take on organising projects on their own with support. This is similar to actively encouraging new editors, developing ideas on shadowing and building organisational depth. We're also looking at what training opportunities we might be able to offer and pay for if we're successful with funding next year. This isn't organised in any systematic way yet. It's just how we're approaching it and thinking about it. A success this year if we get two new organisers leading projects, that's the size we're talking about at the moment. If we can convince two people to lead something, I'll be a happy woman. I'm also recognising that leadership comes in a number of different forms. If people are leading something they love to do, I'm learning not to change them. Administration and events organising is a chore for most. People prefer to lead content projects or talk about content projects. And a not so random example, if they're evangelising the benefits of working with WikiData to communities of natural environment specimens, scientists, then I don't try and get them to take on organising a WikiCon. Ask them if they need any support, what they're actually doing and help them. A priority is to improve communicating with the wider group, only by talking with everyone and letting them know both the successes and challenges. Does the community continue to self-select and solve issues? I acknowledge that our committee still has got a lot of work to do on our comms plan and we need to improve on that, but it's in the plan of work. We acknowledge we have skill gaps within the committee for measuring and metrics as well. We're looking at what's actually useful in this space. How can the committee demonstrate and improve making positive impact on the user group members? How can the user group make a positive impact on New Zealand content and the New Zealand community? How do we measure that without being an expert in metrics and interpreting of the metric results? So what are we planning? We're thinking about funding to hire a staff member to add organising capacity and a focus on relationship building and communication. We're setting up an interview review for the committee of our first budget to better understand where our actual spend occurred and where there were financial pinches and non-spend and where our budget spend actually matched our strategy. Did we overestimate what we could achieve in a year? And we're also looking at what support we can offer editors looking to become organisers beyond purely funding. We're thinking of developing an organiser pack of helpful things such as for in-person editors on training sessions on telecoms, checklists, digital tool recommendations, comms, scripts and physical packs of masks, O2 meters and COVID record antigen testing. Making it easy so they don't have to do the research themselves or think of everything. What support can we offer editors wanting to lead content projects, funding sources outside of Wikimedia Foundation, tips and tricks for managing conflicts of interest, comms and how to drum up interests with like-minded members of our community to get an editor group brought together. We're essentially all about the practical at the moment. In terms of leadership of our affiliates in the ECAP space, I feel like such a newbie. I'm learning about how it's organised and talked to each other in a hub. There are members of the community that have far more knowledge in this area and are helping me. The Aotearoa New Zealand Committee and user group is invested in this yet and we know we've got a lot to learn from other affiliates. I think organising leads to interests and organising leads to interest in doing more for the group, which leads to an interest in the wider affiliate ecosystem. But we don't know what we don't know. Jacqueline and also the online ECAP meetings have been extremely useful source of information, support and guidance. But there are times when I feel so ignorant about the wider ecosystem and how it works that I don't know what questions to ask. The Aotearoa New Zealand group is beginning to start working with other affiliates. We're starting with our close neighbors, Wikimedia Australia. I hope this practice will lead to New Zealand leaders becoming more confident and leading more cross-affiliate projects. But I think this will take time and capacity. I suspect that this will start with administration and content projects. But ideally, I hope that we'll go on to other types of leadership, offering opportunities for editors and organisers across the nations and possibly leadership programmes. Thank you. Thank you so much, Victoria. Next up, we have our friends from South Korea. We have Yongjin Ko. Yongjin is the board member at Wikimedia Korea and has been editing. He has been in Korea for 2011 and has been an administrator since 2014. He provides support to the affiliates planning and the coordinate's local events, such as annual meeting conference in Seoul. He also formally worked with the Media Foundation as part of the movement strategy and the guidance. Also from Korea, we have Eun A Gu. Eun A is the director of Wikimedia Korea. She started editing in 2007 by taking some titles on Korean Wikimedia. Just after that, she joined the Korean Wikimedia community and helped to establish Wikimedia Korea. Now she's the board member and executive officer of Wikimedia Korea. Over to you. No, it's not possible, so hold on. Okay. Hello, everyone. So basically my name is Yongjin, and I'm the board member in Wikimedia Korea, and I used to work with the Wikimedia Foundation for the movement strategy and carbonace. And here is my peer Eun A Gu, secretary general in the Wikimedia Korea. Also assist here to assist myself. So the Wikimedia Korea has been established in 2014. After that, like the we having like they're doing the initiatives, so that the, we become the, we are not authorized as chapter by application committee in the 2018, no, that's very recent. So we are the very, very, very new affiliate at the small size so that we are starting with the local activities. So let's go with what we are doing right now so that curtain tips and then how are we going to do for the future. So I want to introduce a few things we uniquely do. So firstly, we are doing local line of conference. Since the Korean users are all almost staying in the South Korea, we are able to do the local conference at the South Korea for the generated Korean users. We are almost getting like the 50 or 50 users in the conference. So we are doing like the, this is the official photo of the conference and that we're even doing the cake celebrations for the 20th anniversary of the Korean Wikipedia. So that's probably there. So that's the first person ships we are doing and something especially starting from here. We are trying to make a partnership with the many like the underrepresented organizations or the where the Wikipedia or the Wikimedia articles are like the week. So that the for example, the first one is HIV and AIDS. That part was very weak. So we are trying to get some made like the students undergraduate or the grad students from the university. And then we are giving volunteer time. Why volunteer time? Because South Korea is the South Korea volunteer time is very important in the their graduation and the career. So if you see here, there are lots of articles in English, but which were not translated in Korean, or they're not created in Korean, they're all the projects with the help of the professionals, including the undergrad, they're doing so that we able to create all the articles related to HIV and AIDS. We also doing the sister projects of course. So for example, we are doing the, the digitalization of the yet angle that which is that's like the image of the yet angle. So that's like the somehow the very old Korean language. You know that Korean is developed like the in the 20. I know in the very, very back ago with the King's schedule, right? So that at that time it's like kind of a little bit different than what the Korean language is currently as today. So we are our goal was like the making its digitalization. And it has been succeed in the week is most succeed project in the sister projects in Korean. Let me just go back. I don't know why. So yeah, so the both. So the most importantly, we are also having to serve support the teenager groups, because the king teenager groups was like the lots of big serious problem in the South Korea because. There was like the in the 2019 of the December, there was like the rapid influence of the teenager users at their time. So the problem is there are like that they are not familiar to wiki media community and the Wikipedia community how to editing them. So we had to do some strategy to how can we making as long term community members, because if they are growing and having more knowledge and they're being being adults there, they could be possibly the new contributors in the Wikipedia and the other wiki media projects. So what we try to do is like the provide the teenager exclusive guy helping for project. This is called a student camp. So like I just like the kids and they're the students board and etc. That was like the really had helped to achieve the students. So that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to make sure that we have this. Teenager users succeed success. And as well as the how the centralization of the. Is problem there. The problem. So, okay. Oh, low battery. And now the problem was raised. We can we made a space for the teenager groups, but like that we don't know how what they want. So what we're trying to do is we are making the meetings with the teenager user system. So there was like the. I will buy almost five users volunteered to like the coming and gather, gathering with us for wiki media career board. That was like the somehow these succeed was made. So for example, they want to do like the somehow opportunity to volunteer hours. So that we have created it. So we're trying to do like the photo content. Photo contest tour, which is so that they are taking a photo than the improvement articles. And I'm going to put us in wiki media comments. So here is the photo that they're actually. Taking photos of the. Yeah. Which is like the near the soul. Yeah. At the center of the soul. Okay. So what's done next about the wiki media Korea. The future of the wiki media Korea, we are starting the initiatives. However, we have to support the more, more and our ability needs to be growing in order to grow the wiki Korea Wikipedia community, especially in the South Korea. So that we, we decide to plan the strategy that like. The future of the future of the wiki media Korea. The future of the future of the wiki media Korea. Alliance with the wiki media 2030 vision. And the. Mooma strategy in the future. So it is going to be labeled in the by the February 20, 23, which is the general meetings of the members. So that's all from me. And probably group can speak about like the additional like stuff and the future place of power. So, yeah. Yeah, we covered well and. Yeah. Oh, so this year, this year, it was very meaningful for us because we set out our plan for the first time. And so we can, we can submit, we could submit more overnight proposal to draft. And so. And we will continue to just. Pull the gathering for a certain plan that year. And we will. So. All working. Volunteer hour is very successful. And so we will keep that. Actually. And so you can. I know some other. Your. And. Okay. So. Great. Thank you so much. Any more questions. Okay. Maybe we can take questions from the room. So I just wanted to ask what's regarding what will be the best. I mean. The problem with the engaging with the youth is how it is interesting on their side. So there are other countries that they made their projects. So. So what is the strategy for Korea that would entice more, more. Are there. Demographic. Demographic of Korea are leading to. Some sort of. Like their favorite movie or their favorite. Or something. Okay. So why can I note that a little bit because we, because we are aware that like this. Like the. You know, groups are interacting on the best page, like the mobile games or the TV games. Or movies that. The. And the drama. So what we can do is like the public creating the. Are like encouraging them to like to do like the. Like the salaries of the. Those those. Or the. Or drama and etc. So I think it's like kind of important that encouraging them to edit that. But like the probably we have to also have to educate just to know like the. Copy and paste from the order like third party media. Because. In South Korea, there is like a lack of awareness of the company copyrights compared to the other countries. They just like to simply copy and paste from the other. Projects. And then that has been. Making the violation of the. Copyright. So that. So that kind of important. Probably we have to act like that before we have to do. The strategies that the team. Teenager wants those people wants. Like for example, the teenager. What filter. That's because they. Wanted. And then we plan for the. One time. And then that was like. That's the. Probably the planning the. Teenagers. One. What changes wants could be helpful. Also. The lastly. I think there should be. How to add the media and what they should aware. In the minimum. Not like too much because if they are under. Too much. They will be understand. They will be not understand everything. So probably there should be short summary of the. What should they not to do in the very important things. Following. Thank you so much. We have any questions. Thank you. Yeah. Very interested to know that. Some of the chapters. Are planning their first strategy plans. And I'm interested to know. What kind of resources that you guys depends when. When formulating the strategy plans. And we talk about. We talk a lot about. Cross affiliates. Skills sharing. And that's all. It changes and things like that. I'm wondering if you have. Specific. Topic and wish to learn from your fellow. ECL. Charters. Groups. Bring up any. Hard possession problem. For the. Formalized. That's. That's a really interesting question. And sometimes. I think we're. Yes. I'm. Yeah. The music. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is what are we going to feel. With the help of the strategy for the. National need. Our next step is. I like the next. Next. questions or you can generate those kinds of questions. I feel like we're working with new learning and that's a learning question. We've definitely, as I see, we've definitely had talent to process for it, just thinking of what we're putting in New Year Australia, but even that's on a very embryonic level. It's started at 10, it's not, we don't hear that, one word, one breath and we're an agent and we can relish it, I agree. And that's, of course, your own community, what we get, we talk on our individual, through the individual, it's a level, but we're not, we're affiliated and so we're here on the stage yet. I'd love to be there, I just need to, I guess, be fine. Do you want to have it? Yeah, before we start our strategy plan, so I asked the director to send another updated, updated strategy. And so, and we studied it, done it, for example, in New York, Australia, New Zealand's strategy plan, so we added our Korea's specific strategies, for example, we really need to develop our, develop Korea-specific content, and so we include it in our specific plan, our strategy plan, and so yeah, that's it. Does anyone else have a question? Okay, maybe I have a question for Kylin, so how do you work with other indigenous communities in Taiwan? You are the leader among all the indigenous groups having established a user group, so how are you sharing of them and how are you working with them? There was an online, it's online, very, online, very, collaborate with our local university and university, and there was five different groups of indigenous all gathered together and share the same question, and in that, during that meeting, everyone is so supportive and understand that it's a really, really big challenge. They are all facing, many, many, few people know how to speak their own language, and a lot of elderly are passed away from those who have those knowledges. So first, their strategy now is more focused on collaborating with local university that already have a program in teaching indigenous languages, so they will go collaborate with the professor and teach them how to edit Wikipedia with them, so that has been, for them, has been a very successful way to preserve their language and share their strategy to other languages and as well. Thank you so much and we have come to the end of our panel.