 Hi, this is Debbie Daschinger. Welcome to the Dare to Dream video and podcast. I suppose these days they actually call that television. So we'll take it. We'll take it anywhere you are. But I'm super glad that you're here and I'm glad that this show just keeps rolling out and being created. It's amazing, you know, we were impacted, not just me, but by the way, my guest today, Lisa Dawn Lejois, just the best name in the world, Lejois. So sexy. So my buddy and my guest today that I'm excited to introduce you to, also we were hosts on BBS Radio and it burns like the impact to the people who own the station and of course to us as hosts as well. But you know, resilience is our middle name. We just keep rocking and rolling and understanding that for sometimes for us, maybe all the time for us, things happen for a reason, right? It's meant to change the trajectory of where we're headed and how we're headed, the modality. So that's what I've been doing and so welcome to like the new incarnation of the show. I'm actually totally digging it because it's going out in all these new places and spaces, both as this visual as well as the audio. So I'm enjoying it on podcast sites and on YouTube and TuneIn and Spreaker and Spotify and iTunes and iHeart and I'm probably repeating some of them, but you get the idea. So here's the dealio. I was just sharing with my buddy Lisa and I'll share with you just because I think it's good to do things we don't want to do. So I'm going to also share this because my friend Amy, oh, I probably shouldn't have sent her name, but that's out of the bag. You know, she was saying she was really applauding me for dating right now because she said she can't like she just got off all the dating sites. She's so triggered and she and I have some similarities in that we had a very rough breakup that set us a skew and what I was sharing with her, she was feeling a lot of she was sending a lot of I'm so proud of you Debbie for doing this to me and I said, well, you know, here's the deal. Like I like to pull back the curtain and I just want to share and I'm sharing with you to obviously total transparency. I'm triggered to I want to cancel trust me. I'm doing these texts with somebody and I'm like comes the night of it's like, God, I just like to hang out here with my dog. God, I need to wrap that gift for the birthday party this weekend. God, I need to do my nails like anything will come up to not and the only reason why I went is honestly, I thought, how would that feel to you? I have to go there like how would you feel you had plans with somebody new and they canceled, right? And you'd sort of be like this. So I thought I can't do that to another person. I have to have some integrity. So I did, I went and I was incredibly pleasantly surprised. It was so much fun. I thought I don't I even had a boundary. I can only stay for an hour but I ended up staying for like three and a half something like two and a half three hours. Yeah, it was a late night and fun. We had a blast. I didn't expect we'd even have things in common. We had a lot in common. Who knows where this is going to go or not go. But the fact is I went and here's the deal. So what I was sharing with my friend whose name shall not be named again but you already heard is that so trust me I'm triggered too but I go and here's the thing. I believe that I don't have to be fully healed before I do something. I can go ahead and do it anyway and I'll start to get healed. Like as I go on dates my ex is going to start to be way in the distance until he's like specks and molecules that are just totally transmuted in Hawaii, right? Like dust in the wind and that the new will be brought in and that my heart will continue to mend and heal. And like also to go out I think is very important for ones non-ego but just feeling of self out in the world that it's like oh I am really attractive. Oh I can do this. Oh that was fun. Oh I can find a man kind of attractive. So all these things are very healing. So I'm sharing that with you because love and relationship may be your deal and you've been really hesitant there so if there's anything here that is of use to you use it take it and it may be another place to space in your life where you're really holding back and you're waiting for everything to be in line and it's not yet but don't wait just start doing it. Nike had it right baby just do it. So speaking of which I would like to introduce you to the sponsor of this show who I'm very very proud to be connected with and that's Thinkific. And if you don't know them man go run. 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You want to know more about her her website her name Lisa Dawn Lejois.com that's L-A-J-O-I-E and also tappingintuit.com Miss Lisa Lisa welcome to dare to dream it is so great to have you. Oh you know I'm so happy nice to see you. It's so nice to see you and I you know for people who know you they're just going to yummy you up and for people who don't yet it's going to be like who is this woman. Something before it's happened before I'll just say for the record that you and I were together at a workshop and there was a very sensitive woman there who was also on stage with me who was like having a breakdown basically because she's such a deep sensitive empath she was ingesting all the energy in the rooms and she was tapped the F out and I told you you need to talk to Lisa because Lisa will get you right like ta-da and it had just so happened you and I were going into a room she was across the hall she saw us I said um you saw what was going on with this gal she invited you in to work on her and she came out I don't even know if it was 20 minutes later and she was like oh my god Lisa Le Joie like yeah she was a changed human fully whole and healed again so that is my entrée to you to people who don't yet know you you do so much more so will you start with what is the work you do out in the world today. Oh yes I would love to. First of all I'm so happy to be here with you on your show that's like so exciting for me um I have a cool story about you remember we talked about I saw you on an interview like years ago and I said I'm gonna know her and we're gonna be friends like and then I saw you and here we are right wow you know sometimes connections run deep and you just have to follow and and trust them the process of that um so it's what I'm what am I doing today so today my work is an evolutionary process it's always growing it's always unfolding and becoming something more every time I become something more that's really important for me to share because I didn't start out this way I started out not wanting this gift of being able to see into people's life experiences be able to see the future of where they were headed to see the horrible things that happened to them to be able to tap into the loved ones they've lost and you know growing up that way it's really tough and at one point you know just to make a long story short I'm a very spiritual based person and I wanted to understand my dharma and I wanted to understand you know all the moving parts to who I was not just who I am as a person but the moving parts of my soul my divinity my my divine self what the universe wanted of me with me and so you know even though I didn't understand this gift of being able to see more than the average person or just being able to tune in all these really incredible ways which I understand today I was one at one time in my life I was around 23 years old I had a breakthrough a huge spiritual awakening and at that time I realized every gift that is given or that we're born with has a usefulness and if I can make it comfortable for me to utilize the gift then it's going to have meaning and purpose and if I can do that then I'm going to be living in my dharma and and whatever feels right like I do this thing like I'm always asking is this what you want me to do is from my own highest consciousness to myself as a person because it's you know we're always unfolding we're ever unfolding and so at that time I said I'll do it because my gift came back after years of kind of being in the darkness myself and just struggling to be you know in my own change and transformation and my spiritual awakening that was part of the thing that happened was I awoke again into this gift of being able to see and I realized if I could take what I know and make it really useful and if I could take what I see and turn it into possibility I'll do it because for me being a being a psychic is a beautiful thing but being an psychic and predicting your future because of what you're doing today means nothing to me what really matters to me is if I know I can bring a change to you that you're just dying to have or if I can heal something that's plaguing you and breaking you down and breaking your connection to your dharma and passage in this life if I can show you all the other possibilities that you don't see because you know us humans were stuck in a framework that we're stuck in then I'll do it and so from there I started doing intuitive readings and sessions and just helping that way and that unfolded into more and more and more and my clients actually taught me what they needed from me and every once in a while you know the universe would knock on my head and go no you have to do more and knock knock knock and I'd say no no I don't want to do that no I don't want to hang out with dead people no no no I'm good just doing readings no no I don't want to talk to those people again like I did when I was a kid I know you have to and we're going to show you why and so you know this beautiful relationship that I have with the spiritual world and my soul self and the universe like I could trust all these little openings so today from all these moments of grace and open openings let's say now I help all kinds of people doing all kinds of cool things I do healing work I do intuitive readings forecast work I do I help business people utilize their potential that's not tapped to be able to avoid problems and pitfalls that they don't even see happening I mean I've been so delighted to help people sell their businesses for millions of dollars I've been delighted to help them I know to help them understand not to get involved with certain projects because the partnerships weren't solid and the people they were working with were not in alignment and they were honest they weren't the right so you know all you know from that to just helping people heal things that harm them and cause them pain and cause them anguish and be able to instantly create a shift that they're willing to have oh it's it's such a blessing and a joy to co-create with people to co-create and collaborate with the universe to be useful and so I don't know where I'm going to go but right now that's more or less what I'm up to well okay so many things come up with that so the first thing is just a side note I'm connecting another healer with you who's just opening a huge business I know she needs to talk to you have to hearing that and yeah you guys will create amazing things together but you can really help guide her with that love knowing that the dead people thing Lisa so curious to be like because I've asked people this before like how do you how are you that and you're out in public like here in Los Angeles we have the Hollywood Bowl we're like what five 10 15 000 people go in one spell to watch you know the symphony and how are you sitting in a crowd like that with you're not just seeing the 10 000 people who are attending the concert but then the 10 000 dead people around them too you know how do you do that I just feel like it's beyond oh I turned it off how do you manage that oh this is a great question and it truly is very difficult to do at the beginning so when I was a kid I could see all kinds of people that were walking around and scared the living hell out of me to be honest and I I learned how to shut it down through a Vedic astrologer who taught me about my gift that I didn't really understand I was 14 and so she helped me through this work this mantra work and decision making that I didn't have to embrace the gift and when it opened back up when I was 24 25 years old you know and was shown to me the universe showed me the use of it a person that's walking around is lost and when I was shown this through my meditative process and my daily prayer and just talking to the universe and going I don't understand why do you want me to help those things those beings that are walking around driving me crazy like why and it was I understood that you know I if I saw a child that was lost I would go directly to the child and say do you know where you live and bring them home I would I would never leave a child stranded somewhere without trying to help and so I was shown that it's the same thing except I was doing it for the creator I was doing it for not for me and so this made sense to me so the gift started to come back and that whole thing started again where I could see them everywhere and and on there's so such a huge variety you know just like there's a huge variety of human beings there's a huge variety of ghosts that are walking around and spirits that are on the other side from very enlightened spirits to very unenlightened spirits walking around and some of them are you know helpful and their masters and ascended masters and their guides and angels and all these things that we have so I figured out this thing that if I could help the ones that were lost I could live with seeing them so that's my deal I told you I get the illusion you're you're creating about helping a little child to get home who's lost and a wayward spirit or ghost to go to the light and go exactly that way exactly so that's how I cope with it it had to have a purpose so when I see some somebody that's lost I know the difference between an ascended you know ghost let's say and a loved one that wants to leave a message and a ghost that's lost I've learned about you see more than that right it's not just you see the loss but you also see I don't know our dead ancestors yep dead ancestors we can go all the way back in time so sometimes there's there's a variety of things the spirit world's trying to do so this is kind of how it works for me so let's say I see well let me go back first of all you need to be in alignment with your own energetic space so if your space your shocker field is not whole and filled with you and your soul then of course spirit world can bother you the ghosts that are walking around can bother you they can bother an empath so if you don't know that and really keep yourself contained and fill fill your energetic space with yourself and with the spirit world of you your soul your connection then of course they're going to bother you and they're going to plant themselves right into your field and that's where you people get drained and scared and they they you know they get really overwhelmed by the beings on the other side and bothered so that's the first thing when I started to do that they stopped bothering me and the ones that are really negative they look at me and I look at them like this I wouldn't do it that's what happens I look at them and they look at me I'm like I wouldn't hear the psychic mafia don't even go don't even go there and I do it to my friends too like you know so sometimes my friends are like being bothered I'm like oh I wouldn't go there either you know so you there's ways to kind of shield yourself you know I don't really turn it off I have a plan and the plan is I'm going to be useful when I can and I always will do a service if I need to for a spirit that's on the other side that's lost or that needs help and sometimes what I'll do in a big environment that's filled with energy and negativity and all that stuff is I'll clear the space myself for everybody that's in it that makes sense so talking to me right now yeah do you just see me or do you see other well with you like in the moment I'm really just present with you in the moment but there's definitely lots of helpers you're very surrounded by light and helpers like very very much so so you have like ascended masters that are trying to serve what you're going through right now in your life I could see them they're they're around you know they're trying to help you and they're very Egyptian and like I don't really know it's like you have some gods there as well it's interesting you're very surrounded by a lot of helpers who are trying to enlighten you and hold space for you to walk the passage of complete transformation and change because it looks like you're in that big space right now I'm just really filling yourself up with your own soul and your own dharma and everybody else and everything else needs to go and so there really is this huge energetic field around you that's not just you watching over you and they're like I keep seeing like these gods from Egypt it's really weird and they're standing outside looking out from you one has your back one has your front they're like I wouldn't bother coming over here because this woman is right here with me and we're we're containing her space so that's super interesting and I think you asked for it you asked for help you asked for your space not to be bothered it looks like they're there because you called the bin and they're just trying to serve you so you can just be where you are and fill that space up because you're so strong as an empath that that's what happens empaths are so open that they just say hello to everybody's energy hey what's up and they don't even realize like it's okay for you to have your own satellite dish no seriously it's okay for you to just be like hey no I got you know I have I have you know I'm allowed to just be in my space with myself you know yeah and it looks like you have a program that you named after me um called the de-factor is this true yes I did and it is it's named exactly after you tell us about de-factor because actually I wouldn't want this named after me but but when you learn what it actually is because I think the word is actually doubt not Debbie or Dashie or Dare to Dream so about the doubt or the de-factor so this is this is it's came through my work you know came through people asking me to help them because um basically the biggest struggle people have is doubt they don't realize they have the power in their own hands to demolish it and completely destroy doubt in seconds you know it's very easy so it's just that they don't know what to do they don't know there's a process they can think about I have doubt from doubt you have the opportunity to make new decisions from those you know most people who have doubt want don't want to feel that way it's not like we're all happy about being doubtful we have a desire which is another the other one of the D's is desire for change and from desire for change that's kind of like stage one a decision gets made which is stage two from the decision that gets made you you put into practice your determination to start taking action that will lead you to the change and resolving the doubt and then the fourth process is and they're interchangeable which is interesting because you can be anywhere is the devotion and the practice of truly wanting to live in the divinity that you are which is the unfoldment and stage five is like living in your dharma living in your divinity which has no space for doubt when you are on purpose there's no space for doubt it doesn't exist you just know there's challenges but there's not really doubt in accordance to those challenges because you're living in your dharma you just get determined and you decide every step of the way to just keep going forward until you are in this new space this space with your dharma where you're living your purpose and you're living in your your light you know for me it's like I have this other program kind of similar it's like it's going to be called launch your light because to me that's what we're all really needing to do today is launch it out into the world so everybody can see each other from this other place in reality and time you know so working on that now that's a beautiful I love the transformation you offer there and the complete arc from this one space where I can sense all the constriction and limitation into this other where it's just you know infinity and beyond like what do you want to create you're right there with the creator so super powerful we have more coming up with Lisa Dawn Lejoie and you are watching and listening to Dare to Dream podcast if you would like your free report on publicity how to become the go-to expert and be interviewed on media today go to debbie-shinger.com and just get your free report it's debbie-shinger.com free report publicity how to become the go-to expert expert and be interviewed on media today today today so how Lisa can we access I love this alliteration access alchemy answers and influential insights how can we get ahead of current challenges and access our alchemy answers and influential insights instead so the easiest way is to truly make that devotional decision to do it so each day we practice each day we ask questions the one of my greatest routines that I offer anybody is every day connect with your own spiritual self don't leave your bed until you say hello to your greatest love of all which is your soul because your soul chose you and loves you and adores you and wants you to be in alignment so that partnership is the first place to get insight because your soul has things it wants to do with you every single day to complete the process of your happiness as a person and also like to live in that connection to thrive in this world and get those insights and get those intuitions and get the fun of this whole experience and make the influence that you're supposed to make every single day in whatever way you need to so to move through the process is to ask questions don't be afraid to ask the questions that you need to ask and listen for the answers that's something else that happens that's why people have so much doubt is they don't ask they don't want to ask anything of their guidance they don't want to ask anything of the universe they don't want to ask anything of themselves your answers are right there if you're willing to ask the truth you know there's a there's a thing in yoga we say truth is your name say that what does that mean truth is your name it means all of us are born with the truth that is our name we're born to be in the truth the truth is exactly who we are in every single present moment so when you when you are in alignment with truth is my name at all times and you activate that then you're always looking for the influence you're always looking for the intuition there's no you're always looking for the real truth you know what i mean you're not looking for other things that will camouflage the truth in itself so knowing when when we say that even the words themselves truth is my name if you just understand if you just say that truth is my name it's very hard to lie if truth is your name it's like it's very hard to not answer when you say truth yes what is it how can i help you today it's like somebody's saying lisa yes how can i help you today it's the same it's a it's a philosophy of life it's a philosophy of living wow so you said earlier lisa that our soul shows us and loves us and we're talking about our name has truth and that we already have a connection we don't have to seek it out but we can invite it in and ask from it so viewers and listeners here definitely i know they really want their sole purpose to be aligned to have impact on the world but many of them need direction so is there a way you can assist us them in a general sense to have sole purpose with impact on the world and what direction can we take to align there to align with your own soul's experience and purpose yeah so the first thing is you know lots of people use that terminology there but most people don't understand what it is right and you know like my sole purpose is not an easy one like try being psychic in this world trying you know doing what i'm doing for a living you know it's really not and sometimes really what's happening as people talk about their sole purpose but their sole purpose is really aligned with what they like it's not really the truth of what their soul might want to do it's a it's a terminology that people are throwing around your purpose might be very difficult your soul's examples like gondi gondi gondi go ahead sorry what else would be a difficult sole purpose to have to live up to and execute out in the world for sure some of them some of them are to experience abuse to experience difficulty to overcome the challenges of those adversities of growing up and really like you're you're having to transcend the darkness so that you can help others that's kind of what i did and i know that you know we could share we could share some of that that's a huge sole purpose that that for many people we we diagnose it let's say or we dissect it like well that's what happened but what if it is really your sole calling to go through that so that you transcended it to be of service to other people in the future that's a very hard passage to walk through but it can be your soul's purpose we associate today's sole purpose of what we're doing for a living because that's the world we've created but it's not necessarily the true world that your soul wants to live in your soul's purpose may be to completely and thoroughly enjoy this world fully and completely embracing every single aspect of it your sole purpose may be to design something magnificent that no one else has accomplished yet and it's going to take a lot of effort on your part as a person to be able to accomplish that like being einstein it's or being a tesla or flying to the moon or you know being that scientist trying to find a solution for something and you know these these these spine scientists are some of the most intuitive people in the world who don't claim to be but they really are they're so tuned in and hooked up that they're seeing molecules and how the molecules are shown not easy to find cures can be a sole purpose not easy to find those things so the why i'm saying all that is because don't get comfortable with what you think your purpose is really ask your soul what it is well so you know does the soul in its purpose in this incarnation does it have does it set up the matrix of what the body is going to look like or is the body malleable and we can change and recreate and make it into what we want it's not a solid thing it doesn't have to be fat short thin i don't know whatever lumpy you know all these different things can it seem like we are one thing solid but we're malleable and can make a new choice or is actually the soul says no i came in specifically to look like this the soul usually as far as i'm concerned because i've talked to thousands of them is choosing specifically the design of you it's part of the love it's part of the devotion is you're perfect the way you are you're designed with the right background with the right dna with the correct problems or possibilities of problems for the exact lessons that you might need to go through and you have to remember the body is a co-creative experience so the body can you know it is part of the wholeness i call the body part of the trinity so your body can create problems just to showcase to you what you need to do your body is part of the soul's process it goes like this when you're born when the soul actually goes inside of the womb inside of the body they've met on a level that most human beings will never understand because every single cell in your body knows exactly what your soul wants to do every single cell knows exactly what you're supposed to do how you're supposed to do it it knows it has the memory imprint and the connection of the soul living inside of it what happens is we get re deprogrammed from that and the minute you activate your soul and you start thinking this way okay so you know what my soul wants to do so what happens is when you start researching and exploring your purpose your body has a physiological reaction to the truth so when you are seeking your purpose your body will also respond with exhilaration and excitement because it wants to tell you yeah that's it that's it so if it's change your hair if it's look different if it's go to the gym if it's move to another country your body has the messages to say yeah like you are in response with the right memory that it knows of your soul's purpose of what it's what you need to do like i'll give you an example a quick one i went to arizona i went to arizona oh my god and i knew for like i don't know like since i was 10 years old i heard the word arizona and i knew i had to go there i didn't know when i'm 20 years old 23 years old or something i know now my body's like arizona arizona i started getting uncomfortable my entire body started breaking down every time i i woke up in in montreal kebek my body was having a nervous break down being there okay so i said okay and then i said what you need to go to arizona okay so i went and when i went my body had such a huge reaction to this place it showed me memories and incarnations and i started to feel you know deja vu it's not deja vu your body remembers because your soul told your body what's going on you know it has the imprint in your cells of your body remember what you're meant to do and for me sedona arizona was extremely important for my my passage and my growth as a psychic medium and as the person and i had to be there so your body is always telling you the things that you need to know along with your higher mind your intuition and you and your soul as well that makes sense yeah okay yeah it does and i will say that i um although i i don't have the gifts at all that you do i i have these senses that are so strong i don't even try to override them so as far as locations go i easily at most places i do not even resonate with i can be there and just know this is not for me and then there'll be this very rare experience where it's just kismet i feel right there i feel light there i feel like i don't want to leave i feel nested i feel um i could have a home here i've had it in countries and i've had it in certain cities without a doubt and so i i understand that feeling when there's that resonance and you really get it like on every level something and i think it's awesome what you're talking about that you were able to go there and then start downloading or seeing the visions that let you know how right that was that you were there of times you had been there before that there's something there's that connection yep it was really beautiful so the way like to give you some practical advice like hey what do you do so the first thing is to actually design a plan to have a conversation with your own spirit so there's a couple things you can do numerology astrology a great path to find practical clarity around what your dharma is you unfold it whatever way you want but what your path your sole purpose which is your dharma it's what you're meant to do can be found in these scientific processes and metaphysical processes which are very helpful to ignite awakenings so that's one thing you can do the other personal things you can do is each day ask get a sole journal sit down get a sole journal and start everyday conversations with your own soul all right what is it that you want me to do for you today because we assume we know and sometimes we don't what do you want me to do today how can i serve you what do you want me to grow into what do you want me to become that i'm not because what happens to most of us is we hit the learning wall and then we show up to the questions imagine just asking every day instead of having to hit a wall what are the lessons i need to learn what do i have to become so you can live in that place that you want to end this process of this life that we have together ask your body okay since you know more than i do tell me what the soul wants and start listening taking time to meditate and asking your body how do you want to be what shape do you want to be and what type of food will you like to eat for your sole purpose how would you like to show up to that it starts the the cycle going it starts the healing journey and it starts the transformational journey and expect you're going to have to grow because you will expect that you don't always have to hit walls you can actually be that empowered that you're just in charge of it you're prepared for it because you're in alignment with what's next so i asked my soul what do i have to become and every once in a while i'll be like i really don't want to do that i don't like an answer i don't want to do that and we have conversations and that's what i do i'm like i know like when i had to become a medium i'm like no i really said i don't want to do that you know what i mean no you have to and then the conversation begins well tell me why i have to do that give me the meaning and then all of a sudden now i'm in the process and i'm learning about why and i'm learning about my sole purpose and my soul is saying because i want to do this and it's not all about you lisa it's not all about you and your body it's about me too right then we're in this unraveling conversation which is my you're in a board room basically right that's how i play it out yeah very much so you gotta do a conversation on the table and it's like i would like to okay i have a vote i want to start doing this i counter that vote i don't want to do this okay why do you want to do that i mean it really is like a board room mature conversation where everybody gets to put their ideas and information on the table and then you can make a really informed decision and it sounds like what you're saying is that everybody's got this board room virtual board room kind of thing that you actually find out the information that allows you to know that pulls back the curtain to why like when you said earlier you know understanding to return a lost child to their home with the illusion you received about allowing in the ghosts the other beings and who are walking the planet and how they were there to help that you would receive information from your soul saying here's why i want you to be a medium and then it's like oh okay all right and then when i you know what i don't like what my soul says i'm like well anyways i'm going to go the big guy because i don't like what you're saying right now do i have to do that so you know that the experience unravels in a much more pleasant way and what happens is i you can get really deep in your questions you know like okay well what do i have to heal how do i have to eat where do i have to go what do i have to do what do i have to transcend in myself and you ask those questions how who do i have to meet what do i because we normally will flow and bump into the flow versus i'm in charge and i kind of know i kind of know because i'm asking it happened with you when i met you at the ebc i was like what do i have to do to connect with her go outside okay so i went outside and everyone bumped outside we bumped to each other outside and i was telling you what my ask was on the stage and i was like telling you that i knew that i'd meet you that was all soul driven so all soul driven i did the exact thing that i'm telling you now why is she important you know what i mean why do i have to connect with that person and when you're doing this ongoing dialogue you know like we do with ourselves or other people you become so in charge your manifestation accelerates tenfold you don't have to we don't have to struggle as much there's always challenges because that's just life you know sometimes becoming isn't fun and we don't want to do it honestly you know what i mean we have to negotiate a little bit you know but yeah that's good i mean that's healthy it sounds to me you know then you're not doing something you don't want to do and it sounds like you're fully aligned then when you choose to step into it you have all the information to do so and right before we take a break i want to ask you something that you alluded to earlier when you were talking about some of the difficult things a soul might choose in this lifetime and you started out by saying something that is your experience which is to have extremely difficult childhood of darkness and of course i completely resonate with that as well i had something um i would use those words to describe where i came from so my question is so why so got it interesting choice soul this is my boardroom right now but interesting choice soul and even though i see some of the pieces without a doubt having grown up feeling completely not less than two right but narcissists you're not going to be heard and look what i do for a living right i listen to people i'm curious i uh teach visibility i interview i'm on the red carpet like it's totally i get it and also the part of uh not feeling seen or special and you know certainly i hope but it is my intention every client i have that they know that they really feel that for me like i actually really fall in love with people i work with you do i do i think they're magnificent i just see their beauty and how special they are and i also want them to take that out in the world and to know i can be in front of a camera i can be in front of a mic i can write that book because i have something to say so that is that piece that i am aware of but the over um the the arc of the whole thing the umbrella if you will of the why why the darkness to transcend here and you're the great person to ask because in my eyes you really exist here like someone who might meet in lisa would never know from whence you came and the traces you made as a teenager and a young adult yes so it's amazing what you feel and who you be today so tell me about that why this and then what is the game here yeah the thing that's really important i really want to clarify this for everyone and you know who's listening and it's very important not everything is people have this thing they say everything has a reason it's true you can make a reason out of anything you know what i mean and then there's things that happen to us that the soul chose and things that happen to us because we're free will human beings and we've been neglected and abused and not taken care of correctly so an opportunity came through that's very difficult and i'll use an experience that i think is important i was abused as a child and when i got older and i did the healing i stopped that molester from molesting me i made those choices i was my soul was like that's enough of this this is not your life and but what happened is my parents didn't want to live in their dharma at that time they didn't want to take charge of their responsibility as parents the truth is i wasn't supposed to be abused when i went to research my dharma and when i went to research my soul path because i did that in personal regressions and all the work i do is all about transcendence and you can map back to your soul choices i did not choose that i chose other things but i did not choose that and i remember the exact moment when because i had to go back in regression and look when it happened now the abuse of my mother yes the struggle with her yes the sexual abuse no so once i understood because and it's you know i had to go back in time and do the spiritual analysis of what happened what what really went wrong there and it was clear there was a free will choice of a neglect from my parents and because of that the abuser was able to get in but he was not supposed to be in my existence as a young child and i knew it because when i went to the regression i remembered the i remember the creator coming to me and saying this is not what you're supposed to be going through because you feel it inside when you map back and see what was really purpose driven and the lesson that i chose from a spiritual plane the feeling and the understanding is very different i go to the akashic records i work in there as well with my clients and myself and there's there's total definition in those places for what you chose as a person so what's really important i mean this was very liberating for me to know the truth helped me understand that while we're here everything doesn't have a meaning sometimes people are creating and they have creative potential to do bad things to great people and it wasn't meant to be it is is the part of being a human being when you live in this earth life there's a creative flow in the in life as well that's beyond the spiritual realm your body our bodies the animals the kingdom here has a co-creative process our bodies our human beings can create things like that so it truly helped me learn a very important lesson that i had to understand what was meant to be and what wasn't so that i can understand the depth of the lesson and it helped me understand that the sexual abuse i went through i had to go through psychological healing i had to talk to a real person who helped in that way and i did some spiritual healing too but i had to realize that was an imprint on my physical reality my body not my spiritual life and so it changed how i did the healing process and it helped me to unfold something that now i talk about because it's important for people to understand it's not all meant to be it's so painful to me when i have clients coming to me and saying i was abused and i think my soul chose it and they're not sure let's find out let's find out find out the truth so you know how to map it out and heal it that created great liberation for me and the truth is my name so i have to find the truth because that always sets me free it always unlocks the pain of my questions of why did that happen to me when you find the truth it unlocks that question because that question creates an unworthy feeling it makes us feel bad about who we are it makes us feel blame and it's not there's either a reason or there's not and there's either somebody got through the doors and got to you in a negative way or you have a reason for why you went through that experience you know we're choosing all the way right many times we're choosing you know so and people are too it's huge thank you welcome i'm just sort of sitting in that right now that information well folks this is brought to you by thinkific and you can get a short demo of their online course and membership platform for entrepreneurs and thinkific is the online education platform for independent entrepreneurs and creators to grow their business with online courses you can get your dare to dream free account or listener viewers special rates at thnk.cc slash deb otherwise subscribe kids subscribe to dare to dream please and leave a five star review you'll be the first to find out about all the new shows and things going on and when you leave a five star review listen you get the right people to be attracted to the show who also want to hear this conversation at work for you let it work for them accounts so we're coming back here for the final segment this is debbie dashinger on dare to dream podcast and video and i'm interviewing lisa luja you can find her at lisa dawn d a w n luja l a j o i e dot com lisa what is the one practice or ritual that you use on a daily basis that helps keep you grounded and healthy mm-hmm good question let me think about that just one second here what is the one practice well there's one thing i do every day i reserve the right to change my mind oh my god i love that i've never heard that yeah and i reserve the right to tell the creator no and i really take the space in my life and in my body and in my being and i own it and i claim it to the best of my ability each and every day and all the layers of myself on all the planes of existence my body my emotions my mind and every day i i keep track of my truth that is the one thing that i've been doing for a long time when i i i had my spiritual awakening at 23 24 i really understood that in knowing the truth of my darkness i had the liberty to change so every day i've been practicing that way of thinking and being and that's been the life changing life changing for me because the truth is if i'm not if i'm not feeling good then i might need to do something you know if i my mind's unclear and i'm confused and i need to do something if my spirit needs my attention then i need to do something you know so you know for me that's the practice if i need to pray and meditate i do it you know but it's seeking the truth that allows me to know what i need each and every day awesome yeah i do i like that too because i i assume it's not just the creator but to me the the bigger idea when you said that i i reserve the right to change my mind i mean that's one of the most powerful things i know i could certainly give to myself in any relationship anywhere professionally personally you know with my dog whatever it is when god knows when you're an entrepreneur and you wake up every day and you've got this freaking list that is not it's just not going to happen but it's a setup every day that you're going to get through it and if you get through that much of this list it can be very difficult and some of us just work way way deep into the night thinking we're still going to tackle that list but it doesn't really ever go away and the idea to change your mind even about that and say yeah i reserve the right i i woke up thinking i'm going to get through this whole monster but you know what i'm not i'm actually going to choose three things and everything else is gravy i don't like gravy so i don't like using that word so i'm like a i'm like a practical psychic i'm like you know what the world i mean is this there's no you don't have to be spiritual every day sometimes the most important thing you ever do is get in your sensuality or go play sports for a couple of hours or you know talk to a friend you know you know our truth and if we reserve the right this this is why it's so interesting because i remember sitting with the universe and creator and saying listen i really hate being told what to do and even by you okay like i love you and all that and i know like i'm a part of you and i know earth i'm a part of mother earth and it's all cute but i really hate being told what to do i'm like what's my solution and that was my solution that was the clear the words like popped into my intuitive brain reserve the right to always change your mind do not be enslaved by me by the earth or by anything the truth will set you free wow this is dare to dream lisa don le joie what are you next here to dream what are your future dreams and goals hmm i want what i'm doing now is i want to serve in a much greater scale and be able to do more global healing and transformation work because we all need it you know we can heal in an instant if we don't have doubt we really can and we can we can release all the pain that we experience i want i want to teach more and more and more about how to use the energetic systems that people have so most of my work right now is going into programs it's going into going more online so i can touch more people and help them understand their possibilities and how to tune into their own intuition and use it and their own purpose and use it because the more of us that are launching our light the better it is for all of us because then we won't we won't continue to apologize or support the darkness without knowing we are because the people that are hiding in the corner are are supporting something they don't really want to have there in front of them the more this is something i learned years ago when the when when we have when the sun's out it's very bright it fills all the space and so does the darkness as human beings we get to choose what we're filling our space with around us and if we're choosing to fill our space with the light then the space that's around us gets filled and the more of us that fill our space with light that means the more of the earth that's getting filled with light so it's my responsibility to make sure i teach people how to do that at the highest possibility and the best possible way because i'm a practical person i'm not woo really i mean if you talk to me you'll know i'm not woo it's like okay let's just get this done and let's get it done and you know let's like move through let's just move through to the other side so i know there's easy ways to help people just get in tune and get in touch and move it move it through so they can spread that light a little bit farther and wider you know you look very pretty by the way i know you look so pretty well i dressed up for you yeah you just what you guys love you oh i'm so grateful i get to look at this gorgeousness thank you and hear your outfit i'm just loving it loving it thanks for this amazing sharing you know so the next year is like if incumbent upon us it's here i know you do predictions for the next year is that something you do on an individual basis or is that something you could share with us right now in a general sense like it's a coming down the pipe people where's that at so for sure i can do global predictions uh i do them once in a while like i have to sit and really tune in with the vibrations that are happening all over the world so in them in this moment i'm doing i have a product that i do every year where i'm doing personalized individual forecast readings so people can be in tune with what's coming down the pipeline for sure you know it's i'll be honest with you i don't like doing global predictions because usually i'm right and sometimes i don't see very nice things and so what i do is i kind of keep it to myself and then once in a while i will share like listen you got to be prepared for these things that are coming down the pipeline and do the work on yourself so that you expand so if i tell you what i have tuned in with to 2019 and what's happening right now in the world that's why i'm building all these programs it's really important that all of us take the initiative to take charge of what is happening because if we don't it's just like it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger the darkness of humanity because we're supporting the wrong things you know what i mean so you know i i believe we can change you know i believe we can change and alter the course of everything that is happening right now so we just need to take charge of doing our little part in the world that we live in to make sure that what looks like it is going to happen will not where the world looks like it's going will not go there you know what i mean okay and um so give me a prediction give me a personal prediction oh i want people to see how amazing you are okay hold on let me let me find something for you and while she's tapping it i just want to say so people understand like something happened a couple of days ago she's in montreal i'm in los angeles something happened in my life a couple of days ago like big right big thing release um big emotional experience and which doesn't happen often for me but it certainly did and out of nowhere i i get something from lisa saying how are you like why because she knows she knows i don't even like get it but it's so freaking amazing so connected with her it's like she's got a total it's beyond telephone light i think she's a camera in your house you know what's going on she watches you around your life so um yeah i just want you to see how amazing she you're the best thank you so i'll give you there's a couple of things that have come up so first of all by march you're gonna be your your your financial growth is going to be completely exploding so what does that mean i don't know exactly what you're gonna do but you're going bigger and wider and bigger and wider and the things that you're building today will have exponential financial growth so and i know you're doing some stuff because we talk and i know a little bit about you but march is the highlight month for the manifestation of abundance and your prosperity banging through and actually coming back it's like by march it is expanded and growing you're also going to change what you're doing so um i know what you do today but it's completely morphing into something else that's more in alignment with all of you versus the pieces and parts that you've been holding in and showcasing it's completely transforming right now there's also you opening up to the audience of older women i don't know why i keep being shown that and you're touching on something with them that's really valuable and important you're creating something very powerful for them it's like and i don't know i can't see what it is i just know you're doing that in mid-near you're like you know what this is really important that we do that i'm going to create it myself and so you get you get pushed in a direction of creating something for women of of deeper age or growth and becoming like helping them to find more acceptance and peace through your truth story i also see you writing your story so it may be all at the same time so you're and that's like mid-year you're not doing it yet you're doing it once you have all the things settled for your new launch mid-year you're like like june july you're enthralled in your story and completely uh going to share it and shine it out there and you're also going on stage at that time too and you don't want to so you better get used to getting on okay so i'm so i'm told i'm shown yeah i'm told you really don't want to do it even if you're good at it but you have to do it you're on 10 stage you're on these stages you're out there and you're starting to now be a headliner mid-year forget it it's happening whether you like it or not you're being propelled towards that um those are two things there's also your heart is having an opening in august and i think you're going to meet somebody very special at that time it's like you you infuse with somebody around august something happens in august so you know i don't know what i just know i see your heart and it's like showing me like oh yeah i'm good i'm so ready all my transformations are done i'm letting it all in and there's somebody right there with you so i don't know what all that means good luck with that that's awesome oh i'll be there anyway to see it so wow but it's uh it's a relationship that's a long long long lasting one it's not like a fluffy one fluffy not stuff i keep being told like it's uh 20 years plus 20 years plus interesting yeah that's thank you that's like amazing that's an amazing prediction it's pretty hilarious i'll have another message i have another hold on sorry i have another message from from the creator let's say it's like debbie everything that was is now over let it go everything that was is really over it's over everything everything that was and i'm i'm told like you are closing the chapter of this life this segment of your life all of it from now all the way back till the day that you came here it's over and so the guidance i'm getting is can you let yourself restructure in every way inside let the cells of your body just let it go tell your mind it's over you know we need to do some shift work too just to tell you i mean i'm on your show but whatever we need to do some shift work on letting go of the past like just releasing that energy we could do that you know we need to do that where you're just like letting go of us the subconscious imprints of the of the past because they're like floating around you like memories and every once in a while one hits you and you're trying to do something it's like are you sure you want to do that you know that you have this like weird reaction and it's just because you're such a strong empath there's so much embedded in your feel we need to release that at the same time so let's do that work i'm happy to do it with you obviously you know yeah let's do it because that's a that's a huge um i think anyone would be happy to hear the prediction you just gave me and uh i want to be there and i i agree with you you're right i mean also as a cancer scorpio moon come on yeah you need a vacuum i mean i need a vacuum hundred percent you do yeah yeah that was deep man and there's pieces of it that are really crazy and yes it's so true um i hope that my i'm in a one-year program with somebody i love so agey more sheet i hope you just listen because he'll be in hilarities because he knows as intimately as anybody my complete resistance to going on stage even though i know every time i get there oh it's ridiculous i didn't know that i would have never thought that you were resistant to go on stage i've seen you on stage you're amazing it's huge it's ridiculous and i don't i have no understanding but it really exists and it stops me and all of that so he will be laughing his toughest off and then it's very interesting you would say that i've i've sometimes reflect as you know i teach book writing i've written several books i have sort of had that weird thing or had people say to me about somehow i don't know about writing my memoir or my story and i've always completely rejected it and it just so happens in this huge purge that i just did of my place complete restructuring recycling all the r-e words you know reinventing i mean i did i cleaned and organized this place decluttered massively gave away dumped tons of stuff god it feels good and i found this notebook i wrote a story when my first cat tucker died and i talked the tucker's story away and and i just i don't know i never did anything with it and i pulled it out and i've just started reading it wow and i for the first time first time i've been able it's that work by the way it's my other books were about how to do something that's different but for the first time i was able to read something from decades ago and say oh my god there's a right there's a real there's so that's so important to me there's a real writer inside of me oh yeah oh my god oh yeah i i was enjoying am enjoying reading my own story which i think i will probably publish in a short form because i think it's so important for people go through the passing of a pet it's which is devastating in the book you know it's really hopeful helpful and so i thank you for that because they're literally the past few days has been this opening around as a writer so to hear you even you know bring up that piece like the timing is so fortuitous yeah the rest yeah no but it's because you're in the end so you just have to accept the end it's very important that's why i'm getting those messages you have to accept yourself that it's over that everything you've done up till today you're going to carry only what you want and that you're going to choose to change your mind about a lot of stuff and your ideas about a lot of that stuff and you're letting go so it's happening the at the course of the next couple of months you're really like like it's going and that's why i see by like and i see you getting into this this work and just building what you have to and then you're like ready to explode outside inside out the other thing is the book is sexy so i want you to know it's sexy yeah i know you got it's very it's a sexy book it's not like here's all you're doing it with the purpose behind making hard life experiences beautiful because of who you've become because underneath all the darkness is still the person you are and no one was able to break that or break that bond between you and who you truly are and that's why i keep being told like the book is the love story of you and your own self and so it's like they're showing me this like very arousing energy and beautiful energy in it even though it's like it's if you'll have fun with this kind of energy versus like here's all my pain like you already you know it's like no what got me here you know what got me here was the seduction of growth so it looks like that so i just wanted to tell you like that was extra pieces while you were talking yeah taking notes seduction of growth man i'll take it i'm very excited for you that's so good 50 degrees of the seduction of growth hello yeah thank you lisa so much what do you want to say here at the end to the viewers and the listeners um mostly don't make your spirituality like eating cereal what do you mean by that dear heart like lucky charms captain crunch yeah like always make make your spirituality ever exploding and expanding because there's so much out there more than just what we think i would tell your viewers to know how exciting and seductive the universe is and how much love there is and that it's a passionate connection and relationship on every level and it's exhilarating and exciting it's not just illuminating your body knows how to feel excited about the spiritual world so let that connection unfold and whatever you do you know just know just know the truth is your name to find out more about her go to tappingintuit.com as well as lisadanlegiois.com and lisa thank you so much for coming on the show thank you love you love you too and i end today's show with this quote from george mcdonald from the seaboard parish and the quote is this everything has a soul and a body by the body we know the soul but we are always ready to love the body instead of the soul therefore god makes the body die continually that we may learn to love the soul indeed in the next weeks on dare to 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