 and join me for always starting our Wednesday on a laughing note. So the segment is called Breaking Views. So if you happen to interact with the video that you think is going to break the views or make people laugh or go viral, send it to us on Y-254 channel on Twitter, Y-254 and the social channel on Instagram, Y-254 on Facebook. It's time for the moment of truth. Strength of a woman and my strength of a woman of the day is an artist, a singer. And she lives up to her name. She's in studio with me. She goes by the name Victoria Gishora. Oh, you got it, right? Glad to buy it. You're probably the first presenter who's actually got my name right. Yes, I had to practice. I had to practice. It took a lot of practice. All right. Your camera is number four, Victoria. If I missed anything in your credentials, just say it. This is where you... You say singer. I say that. Songwriter. I didn't say that. Producer, actor. Producer, actor. Do you produce music or films or plays? I started producing my own music. I've produced some of the songs on my album, started last year. And then I produce a music concert of my own. It's called Speak Music. And I've been producing my music videos so far. This is not the first time you are here, Victoria? No, I was here. Yes. Oh, my. Is it two years ago? I bet. Something like that. It means you have been working. For you to get back here, it means you have been working on a lot of things. I've been sweating. You've been sweating. What have you been up to, Victoria? I've been trying to... First of all, finish my album that is taking forever. But the... Live recording? Most of them is live recording. Some tracks. I'm trying to put different sounds on my album. And this is the industry now where it is kind of slow. It's kind of slow. Especially back here home. And I'm not complaining because I've seen a lot of growth. So it could be better. But so far so good. So I'm working on the album. Shooting, doing shoots. I'm doing a series right now. Working on my Speak Music. Is the series already on air? Yes, it's online. It's on iFlex. It's called Nganya. It's about the Mata Scot. What role do you play in this one? Take a wild guess. Take a wild guess? Yeah, take a wild guess. You are the Sako chair, the chair person. Are you trying to take a guess? No. Alright. I am playing the OCPD actually. The OC what? Alright, so you're a cop in this one. So I'm a cop. What did you take for you to play this role? Did you have to hang out with police for a while? Actually I auditioned for a different role. This is something that my friend had done, had shot. So I shot him a few years back. And then you know you can shoot things and you try to push them and then things go a bit slow. All of a sudden people were interested and they took the show. And everything happened so fast. It was so exciting. So I auditioned for a different role. What did you audition for? This girl, she's a friend of the wife to the Mata Scot owner. Can I speak in Swahili? Yes, for sure. This is my 2-5-4. She's a friend of the wife to the Mata Scot owner. I'm looking for something challenging. So I saw the OCPD and I was like, why not try it? And they thought about it and I was like, yeah, why not? So they gave me the role. I didn't think much about it. Alright, so the question is how did you prepare for this particular role? Well, because you've never been a cop. I don't think there's ever been a problem for Kenyans to do. We have all interacted with them. Yes, and we know every day how it goes. I've been to a cop station. I'm not saying I've been locked up. But I've had an experience. You went to bail somebody out? No, no, no. I am not saying that I'm pledging a fifth or nothing. But I have had some time to be at the cop station and see how things go. And even the court system. So I kind of just got information from the experiences that I've had. And I was like, yeah, and then I live actually right next to the police station. Alright, so you get to see these things. My big question is, as an actor, do you sometimes get lost in the character? So sometimes you're still in character, but you don't even know. It happens to you. I hope you have not harassed anybody yet. Oh my God, let me say this is something I thank God for my family because they put up with a lot for me. It's like this week I have a South African accent. I'm like, what is wrong with you? Why are we doing this? It's very bad. I switch the next week. It's like my niece is always like, mama, what are you doing? Who are you now? We don't get it. I like it. People don't know that your name is actually... What does it mean in Swahili? Gishora in Swahili, translated in Swahili. Tell them. Kuchora. Kuchora in Kikuyu, you know, Gishora. Osora, you know. So you're also fluent in Kikuyu as well. Yes, yes. I'm better. I'm way better than most people. You're way better than most people. Alright, so your parents knew from the jump when you popped out that you were going to be an artist. I don't know about my dad. I don't know about my dad. But I think my mom knew there was something, you know, yeah. Something special. She's always been telling me, yeah. You want to do big things, you want to do big things, which I just wait and see, you know, because there's a gap between me and my older sisters and I just came up like flukes and they're like, oh, we have another girl. So I love my dad and, you know, men are very, you know, conservative in what they feel. About their daughters. They have true feelings about how their kids came along. But since they love, he loves his girls. He'll just be like, yeah, I love you all, you know. But I don't think my dad knew. But my mom knew there was something special. She knew there was something special. I used to sing when I was a kid on top of the table. I used to have my own private show. You've always been a performer. Yes. And you're on White in the Morning, Strength of a Woman, White54 on Twitter, White54 on Instagram and White54 on Facebook is the way to use it. Don't forget the hashtag, Strength of a Woman. Don't forget the hashtag, White in the Morning. And don't forget to tell us where you're watching us from. We'd like to give you guys a shout out. All right. So Victoria, you're a singer. You're a, you're a, you've started producing your own music. I'd like to know how this is working for you. So you play instruments or you're good with the software as well? Now I'm trying to, you know, be good with the software, but I'm better with the instruments. That's how I write most of my songs. That's how I started learning the guitar and the piano, because I wanted to, you know, how to create music, you know, you know, melodies on the keys, as opposed to, you know, coming up with melodies, because there's different ways, there's different creative processes. And I like exploring all that I can. So I don't have a specific process. Process, but yes, I'm learning now the techie-techie stuff of it. The techie-techie stuff of it. We have a picture on screen right now. Yeah. And you're really killing the game right there. You're really killing the game right there. Who dressed you first? Me. You dressed yourself? Yeah. So you're a stylist as well. You missed something. Oh, they drew it. Where is this? I had a gig last week. This is last week? Yes. All right. Last weekend, the previous one. Last week, but long. I was at the blues for some guys called Turning Tables. And it was a pretty amazing gig. You must be feeling, which song were you singing at this particular point? I think I was singing one of my new songs. Yeah. I think I was singing one of my songs. So that was important for the gig. All right. I'd like to see you make that bass. You're going to save that for later on. All right. You're on the spot. What is this, Victoria? This acoustic sessions that I did a few months ago, and then I was just releasing them. If we can go back to that picture. There's something special about it. The one that was there. Yeah. Her. But meanwhile... The previous one. All right. Oh, wow. No, bring it. This is still you, Victoria. They're not stalkers. All right. We do our research. Yes, I can see that. We do our research. Victoria. Yes. Where is this and what is happening here? This was a matcha wood festival. We participated. So a friend of mine was doing, participating in this. I was cast. Modeling. No. Cast. And for her production. All right. So this is a film shoot. So this was a short film for matcha wood. Matcha wood, they do the festivals every end of the year. This was for last year. All right. So with matcha wood poppin, riverwood poppin, I think each and every county in Kenya now has a film industry. Poppin' something. Yes. So do you think there's growth in this thing is beneficial to you guys as artists? I think there's growth in what we, you know, us releasing and having the hunger for the job now. Like it's very competitive and people are releasing stuff and people are starting productions. But I'm not so sure if it works for us, the artists, because we are the ones who are suffering. Like we are creating stuff and putting it out and that's good because you people are watching and that's fine. But, you know, what matters the most also is, you know, how it works for us. And that's what we are trying to fight for. More, not privileges, but more room to have, you know, the full creative control in what we're doing, what we're releasing, where it's showing, you know, the TVs, stations, you know. Yes, we are hyped. Yeah. Why do people always push in the culture forward? To push. Are you familiar with the hashtag play KE music? Play KE music, yes. Right. You're a musician. Yes. You're not going to delve so much into it. Okay. Are we going to see play KE films sometimes? Yes. Knowing artists, since most of our friends are artists. Yeah. You're going to see play KE films sometimes? Yeah. People are becoming more aggressive as to, you know, fighting for what we feel is, you know, is right and how things should be running in this industry, especially. So, yeah, definitely. I know. Do you think the musicians have achieved, you're a musician. Yeah. As your, I know you have multiple personalities. Your musicians, I do think you guys have achieved something with this hashtag, play KE music, so far. Yes. I mean, not to, you know, the extent that we want, but it's moving. It's a slow progress. I don't want to hate on it, because I'm on position and I'm also, you know, trying to push into it. So I wouldn't say it's, it's not moving. It could move faster. If, you know, all these other organs of this wheel could participate, could actually come into this, you know, because we are fighting as musicians, but there's so many compounds, you know, in it. There's the DJs. There's the clubs. We see you DJs. Again, yeah, definitely DJs. DJs don't put the presenters on the spot. And I also wouldn't blame them because they are also controlled, you know, by what? The crowd wants. Yeah, the crowd wants. And I'm at Siwa Tete, but they could also be aggressive. They could do better. You know, your highest moment, Victoria, in your career, so far. So far. Let's see. Wow. Sense. Sense. I don't think I would say highest. I mean, I've had pretty good moments. You've had pretty good moments. The one that pops up first in your mind. In my music career. Not in my performing. What do you mean? All right. Now you're good at digging holes for yourself. Okay, mine. You're good at digging holes for yourself. Let me say my career. My highest point is this album, I would say. Yes. This album right now. It means a lot. And I'm trying to put some blood, some tears, some sweat in it. Like I'm not holding back. So this, this is very high for me. This is really high for you. We are looking forward to the album because you're dropping something today. Today? Of the album as well. New visual. Exclusive on Y254. It's going to play first on Y254, not at this particular time. But first on Y254, then you'll catch it on YouTube later. Special gift from Victoria to Y254, to the Y254 family. All right, so Victoria, this album is special too. Tell me more about it, the title. Maybe we can start with the title. There's an EP that I've first released. It's called Love Release. And the album is called Heart to Soul. It's a lot of love music. Love music. And you know I love love music. I should be an ambassador of love. Love is a good thing to love. It is. I think love controls the world. Love is pop. You know, I mean, if I love you and I love him, like where are we going to... We're not going to have... We are talking about the same thing. Yes, we are talking about the same thing. I see you. We are talking about the same thing. We are not going to have all these problems that we are having right now. I guess, I guess. With all this labyrinth. Let's assume you're on the same page. Right. But it's called Heart to Soul. It's mostly love music, but then different kind of scenarios in love because there's good love, there's heart love, there's forbidden love. So I kind of put all those aspects in that and then especially with the videos because there's, you know, you guys, mostly you guys have a stereotype, like, you know, woman gets pissed. Yeah, guys have this. It's like, I always say, you guys have a cloud somewhere that you guys have stock between each other. And then you guys assume that, you know, a girl gets pissed and she's not throwing something or she's not, you know, shouting and all that. She's, I don't know, psychotic. But women have different ways of dealing with hurt or heartbreak or... So it has all those aspects. There is the woman who would find, you know, you as my boyfriend flirting with another girl and I'll probably look at you so pissed and I'll walk off. There's that one that is going to get some water. Then there's that one who'll throw, you know, you probably get a glass or a bottle, yes. And then there's that one who'll just be planning to psychotically mess you up. All right, all right. So what is, what do you tell guys as a next part of love, yeah? I did not say... All right, you're crowned the next part of love today. What did you tell a guy, find somebody that suits you or just live with it if you decided to fall in love with this person? I think there's no way of loving someone. There's no lying for you. Life is very complex. I think people should be open and not fear the, you know, the risk of rejection or something. Like just, you know, leave, I guess, a moment there at a time to just getting to know someone because I feel like, you know, most people want to plan where you're at. They're like, oh, it's like, if you go on a date and like, if this guy does something stupid, I am walking out of there because most girls, you're like that. You're like, hmm, it doesn't mean to be like, yeah, red flag in your house. And nobody's perfect. So it's, my mom usually tells us, thank you, you're like, I love you very much. Yeah, exactly. There's no perfect. There's no perfect for it. Yeah. Yeah. So it depends on how much you want to take in. I mean, you are up to one and just the community exactly. I would give your greedy good. Yeah. Just take it. And yeah, I'm going to go with you. Is this topic that I'd like to talk about dangerous love? Dangerous love. Is this something that you're covering in the album since you're talking about love in general? What does dangerous love mean to you? Can you just call it for some working title? Alright, working title, alright. I mean, dangerous love is, I don't know, some people would call it forbidden love. Forbidden love, you know? Adam and Eve kind of love. That was not bad. It was only the apple that came in between the scissors. It was forbidden, the fruit was forbidden. Yeah, but then the love was, that's what it was intended. Adam and Eve, the love was intended. But it became dangerous in the long run. We can go on and on this story, alright. So, dangerous love is, you know, that love that is always, it keeps you on the edge. You're always on the edge but you don't want to, you know, fall over the cliff You know, you want to lean, they adrenaline also of, you know, that thing that is dangerous, you know? But you still, because we humans are like that. You want that thing that you've been told not to do, don't do that. Like, why? Let me just see what it's all about. And it gets, there's a very thin line between that and actually going way deep into it. And nobody really understands it. And nobody really understands it. It's very complex. You can't go to school and learn about this thing. I don't think so. You just have to experience it. I think it's the experience. Most of these experience, yeah.