 A lot of people from Twitter are applying that are like on, on Twitter, they're the best traders in the world. But then you look at the broker statements and you're like, come on then. You're crazy, bro. And that's crazy. What would that process like stand? How do they, how do they hire you? Did they find you? Did you reach out to them and what type of, uh, do they look at your broker statements for the people that want to get into prop trading? Like what's that like? Yeah, that's, um, that's a good question. So that's pretty much all I've known since 2015, right? I got hired a while ago and now I'm the one doing the hiring. So, um, it's been, uh, you know, it's been a long, long ride, you know, interesting ride. And I love, I love the prop world. Um, I don't know what I would do without it, to be honest. I'd like to think that I would be able to survive on my own like, like you guys did. Um, but, uh, basically what happened was, um, I was, I went to brew college and, uh, Mike Katz, the hiring manager at seven points, he also went to brew college and he liked to hire a lot of people from brew college. So when I was hired, I was in a group with I think five or six other guys and they're all from my, my school and probably half the firm were from my school and, uh, but we're not brook. So it's, you know, it's like a trading school basically, like we had a trading floor and we had like technical analysis class quite interesting. Yeah. Didn't really learn about like trading. Um, we, I mean, they taught us like some indicators and that sort of thing. And I graduated with finance degree and it is nothing to do with, with actual trading, but it, you can kind of get your feet where you get like a very like one-on-one introduction to trading, um, if you take the right classes. And so they, they, um, I submitted my application. I had like, um, a phone interview and then I came in and, uh, I came in with a tablet and with some of my trades and I showed my cats like, this is what I did. This is what I did. This is what I was risking. And he's like drilling me down with all these questions about each individual trade. And then at the end of the interview, um, he's just like, you know, we, we basically do a very similar thing here. Um, we do like more, you know, more stuff. We do like more market making, um, some other different stuff, but we do a lot of like momentum trading as well. So that's, that was the interview process. I got hired and that was probably the biggest like turn, the biggest angle of, of that turn, um, where they kind of showed me like how to do market making. And, um, I think within like four or five months, I was, I was in that green and I was profitable. Were you scared to use someone else's capital? Did you feel like a little bit of sense of like, damn, like if I fucked this up, it's not my money. Someone else's money as well. Or did you, where did you just like, you know what, like I'm here, I'm going to do it and I'm going to nail it. Or did you say the exact same thing? Damn, this is somebody else's money. If I fuck it up, I fuck it up and ain't mine. Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, it's like 50, 50 for everybody. Some, some people, uh, some people are like leaning this way. Some people leaning the other way. Um, I think Nico had, um, wasn't very comfortable when he joined a prop firm, you know, Nico, he wasn't very comfortable joining the prop firm at first cause he's like, man, I'm going to lose somebody else's money and I'm just like, dude, it's so somebody else's money. So yeah, so for me, it was like, I don't care. It's not even my money. Um, we had conversations with one of the founders, Gary, um, when I joined, you know, one of the guys was like, kind of afraid to like lose money. Um, and he's like, who cares? It's not even yours, you know, and he's, he's the owner of the firm. So that's just like, okay, here we go. Let's, let's risk some money. So I didn't really care, but I think a lot of people do and I don't think that that's a good reason, um, to like hold yourself back, you know. So you, and you also want a firm that's able to support you and be like, listen, like we want you to do the best that you possibly can. And whatever we have to do to get you there, we're going to do that. So I think that's really important. And now you being a head trader, what do you look for before you hire someone? I look for somebody who is very passionate about trading and is not afraid to ask like dumb questions. Um, but also does the work, I don't know, just common sense things, you know, like there are a lot of people that are like, like profitable, but they don't want to join the firm because they're already profitable. You know, what's the point for them unless they want more, a lot more capital, um, so, you know, that happens once in a while. Um, but for the most part, it's like noobs are applying. They're like, don't really know what they're even applying for. They just like looking for a job. So I'm just looking for something in between where the guy just, you know, kind of like where I was, I just needed a bit of capital, a bit of guidance, you know, like cheap locates and that sort of thing. And, um, you know, being, being in the right environment, like somebody who wants to be in the right environment. So that's kind of what I, um, what I look for right now. 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A one more thing is, is there like a certain, and again, I want to kind of get into details because I know people that may be watching are interested in the proper role. This, do you look for, all right, this trader has made $50,000 in his trading. This guy's made $100,000. This guy's made $10,000. Or is it purely based on their passion and their ability to be coached because as a prop trader, you're going to be coached by a professional trader like yourself. So is coachability more important than P&L for you? Yeah, I think it's probably up there. Maybe it's more important because to be honest with you, a lot of guys that are showing big P&Ls, those P&Ls a lot of times are not real. You know, like you would be surprised. It's more likely than not that it's fake P&L. I ran into this so many times. And not just me, but also like my cats and like Manjir, the owners of the company, it's always like that. So are people trying to like fake their way into the prop firm? Yeah, yeah, I think so. What's been one of the like most, most elaborate schemes that you've seen? I mean, the guy is just showing his P&L and then once you, so right now, what the company has implemented is they are doing a demo account for somebody who's just applying just for that reason. Because a lot of people would apply and they would show broker statements and they would show the P&L and then they go live and it's just like completely just like really shit. Wow, they're just advocating PDFs, right? I don't know how I don't know. I would be speculating, but I don't know how it happens. Maybe maybe it's the truth. I don't know. Maybe it's the truth and then they go live and they just can't make a dollar. So it happens all the time. It happened many more times that I can count. And what they're doing now is they're doing what we're doing now is we're putting people on a demo. So the guy is applying. He's like, Hey, I'm a profitable trader. And the thing is being profitable trader is not really a requirement. You know, it's not really a requirement. You have to be like Alex, you said you have to be just coachable guy and you have to want to learn and that's really it's that's enough. You know, that could be enough. You put in the right environment, you have the right set of skills and you have the right mindset and usually fine. But people try to kind of finagle their way into this. And okay, you're profitable. Go on a demo for like a couple of weeks, maybe a month while you're studying for the for the SAE exam. And then the, you know, that account is looking like this. And it's just like, well, are you profitable or you're not profitable? Let's let's get down to the truth here. You know, so a lot of people from Twitter are applying that are like on on Twitter, they're the best traders in the world. But then you look at the broker statements and you're like, come on then. You're crazy, bro. And that's a crazy. You feel like name dropping a few? I'm just kidding. I'm joking. I'm joking. You know, my list is very short. My list is very short. But if I were to ask my cats and he wouldn't tell me either. But he, I think his list is pretty long.