 Hello everybody. If it's Saturday it must be and we're here. It must be another Warhammer reveal reaction show And in fact, that's exactly what this is. So Tom, what's going on buddy? We're here. We're here to talk about stuff Oh friends Yeah, man What did you think of this one overall was this was this? How this one rate for you amongst the three? Yeah. Yeah, it was good. It was good It was like obviously the Giants were sexy And yeah, just lots of like there's some real surprise which was nice Like that was new. I could not like I'm not being flipping there But like it was really like truly new models that like the canite band we didn't know was coming So yeah, I mean it overall I get ranked pretty high amongst the different Reviews. Oh, yeah, this one was a hot 10 out of 10 for me, buddy This was everything I'd been waiting for here was this this is it we we got the meat here They brought the meats And I was more than thrilled. I mean this This is the thing I was looking for I have been very excited so Yeah, man, let you want to just get into it. Yeah, just share and let's start scrolling. Okay, let's do it Here we go. So I brought it up on screen here. Obviously Tom. They the our viewers can't see you anymore You know as Paul Wagner just said in the chat and I do want to state this as we're getting into this This would have been the most epic attempt to go and reveal ever Because there's probably still like one maybe two other things. They just didn't show at all Sure Because they they're just not sure when they'll even ever be able to release it Chances are with this stuff since with the Giants with the elves since we saw the bills of lading already Land right which means they showed up in port in the UK, right a Lot of this stuff already exists the other stuff. They were gonna show my guess is wasn't like actually Ready yet, you understand what I'm saying does that make sense? No, did we lose Tom? What happened? I'm sorry. I'm here. Okay so what I was saying was they probably left one or two things off because This stuff we already saw the bills of lading and how it arrived in the UK So it's probably all basically ready to go like this has already been printed the factory's already produced the Giants It's already produced the the luminous like they just need to get their mechanism their their machines back up to ship everything I mean that the logistical machine, right? Yeah, and so like they that stuff that was farther out That isn't good like ready to go. They likely aren't gonna preview right exactly No, what that's gonna be because they didn't send this out from the central hub where they store everything out to like the warehouses out To everything else right and they might have still had some runs left to do of some of it in the factory in Nottingham Right, right, but we know the the stuff that's produced overseas already got there Anyway, so I'm excited. Hopefully that means there won't be a huge delay in actually getting our luminous and our Giants Once things get back up and running again But we'll see so this is the giant kit. This is just the silhouette obviously I wanted to spend a moment here. You and I had a lot of discussion beforehand. This guy is definitely on a 130 round Like it's a scale. He's on a 130. Yes. It assuming this image isn't lying Right. This is on a 130 round. So that's how big this dude is. That's quite big. Yep So Yeah, by the way, I you won't be able to see this Tom But I mean if you have this up on a separate screen, you'll be able to see it But I want to give everybody a comparison So here is one of my actual Warhammer Giants out of like this is the classic giant kit, right? So he's here and that's his size This is the Storm Giant King from Gale Force 9. Yeah, okay And they're about like this guy is about the height of that giant if you compare the two if you look Gale Force 9 one. Yeah, like this giant comes up to about like the head of this giant of the Warhammer Giants All right comes up to like the lower torso the stomach area of the big giant. Yep, and it's about the same here So Realistically the this giant the the new giant of what's called the Mega Giant, right? The Mega Giant will be slightly larger than this guy than the Storm Giant King because he's a little like this is a tiny bit bigger Comparatively, but that gives you a pretty good idea of what we're talking about here, and I love this Storm Giant King like that's a giant He's massive. He's yes. He's your art. Yeah, he feels the part So I thought that'd be an interesting comparison I went and grabbed them because I realized I had these two guys and they're actually quite close in size So, but let's look at the actual kits. Shall we? Yeah All right, so we've got our three dudes our Kraken Eater our siege breaker and our war stompa So we're starting on the war stompa Yeah, man I'm like I don't love this head because I've never liked the horned heads for Giants. That was a classic option as well, right? Yep. Yep, so I'm not a huge fan of this that the big horn on the side of his head Now that being said now is that a big horn or like it looks like that's something odd on his backpack Because you see the other oh, yeah, you may be right. Yeah, maybe that's not actually coming out of his head Maybe that's just an optical illusion. I bet you're right Tom I bet that's just a backpack thing. So never mind. I'm back on board. Well, there we go. I had one critique for this model That was it All right, I only got positive things to say I think it's only positioning like I'm a right Yep, I love his little stormcast shield belt his belt buckle. Yeah, man He's got some great. He's got some great stuff down here like the shell of So so let's let's play Paul mentioned this before and I think there's a fun thing to do Let's play sort of name the source bit, right? Yep, so this is obviously the shell off the big turtle From from Eidneth. This is a chaos shield. Yeah, we've got a storm cast around shield here we can't quite see these shields, but They look a little more like the traditional shield arm the giant had and then over here more shields I there was a rumor engine that had a big giant gut plate We didn't see that anywhere here. So I wonder if that's not an alternate bit, right? Like I wonder if there's not some alternate bits that you can use to make this guy into a hero because clearly these are gonna make both the the normal kit and the The normal kit and the hero version, right? This dude is gonna be a hundred and forty dollars I'm fine with that like yeah for this kind of options I mean you're getting it is your whole army probably in like if you just ran these guys What like what four or five fakes probably? Oh, not even five. I'm saying it's gonna be I'm I'm saying that you would have They're gonna be between four and five hundred Points of peace. That's what I'm calling. Sure. So if it's four hundred points, that's why I expect four of these I'd expect four of these guys and then like two small guys like that's probably an army, right? Realistically, we know they can't be more than five hundred points Okay, the absolute ceiling of the cost of these guys is five hundred points Because they want you to be able to make an army out of just these guys, right? Right, and you'd have to have one hero in three battle line, right? Right, so well some of these guys may become battle line like so for example if you do like the hero Cracking eater the normal cracking eaters may become battle line with it. I hope it's not that limited I would just assume that if one of these guys is is the Leader then the rest become battle line, right? Like that is to say all the all of these giants have it's an army without a standard battle line Sure. Well, I think I think the standard battle line is the the run No, I'm saying but they still aren't tagged with generic Right. So in other words, they're not battle line to everybody in this army's battle line gift Yeah, maybe maybe you know what I mean for the heroes, right? Because they'd all they're all going to be behemoths base and that's got to be that's got to be erased Right by the battle line thing so you can break the behemoth rules, right? So let's but but for some fun here I did go through and collect all of the old rumor engines that I thought fit these guys So specifically hold on. We'll all are we gonna go through each one or not? Yeah Yeah, well, so I'll start with the with this dude. I don't think this guy had any rumor engines on it Sorry. Yeah, he didn't have any rumor engines that I could see unless I missed something on him. I Couldn't see any on the war stompa. Okay. Can we just talk about how beautiful this skin is by the way This is the best skin they've ever done look at the folds and the captures here in the knees and the feet The the the like catch of the shoulder muscle as he turns and like this ripple happens Yeah, I mean it's amazing And yes, the assumption would be if you make my assumption is if you make one of these dudes a hero then Everything else everything else becomes battle line either these guys or the little old giants who are gonna be like just your your fillers for the Interesting for this range, right? Yeah, they'll have a place in the army clearly. Yeah, okay So next up is the the kraken eater this dude. I love how again turning him I will say I love that they up to the muscularity of all these dudes Yeah, like they look stronger clearly, there's just one or so, but their legs look how much more beefy these They're like tree trunks now compared to the old Giants. Yep, right? The old Giants had really weedy arms and really weedy legs Yeah, I don't mind the guy if it's if it's compensated by big arms big legs, right exactly like these dudes We've we've moved more into a build. I actually enjoy One that I aspire to what I'll call the Charlemagne. Okay. Okay, so famously Charlemagne was like this warrior king, right? And and the description of him was like he was he had been a soldier and he had fought for years And he was incredibly muscular and powerful, right? He was right, but he had also then become a king And so I'd live the good life and and had developed like a significant gut, right? So he was he had a belly, but on top of it sat a bunch of muscularity like he was still strong and still active He just liked to eat so like his he was often described as being this like beast of a man, right, right? And so I always loved that kind of that kind of concept of just like a bunch of muscularity sitting over like a very muscular dude with a little bit of belly a little bit of tummy-tom little tum-tom the Kraken eater I think has two rumor engines on him and I don't think we can see either in this picture except a Slight bit you think the rudder So here. Yep. I think this is on his back. Okay, so this is the the rudder piece the bottom And then oops, sorry, so it's this direction and then this is the top, right? So this is the ship the top square piece I think we're looking at the other side. They did say the ship is on his back Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So it makes sense that this piece Plus this piece and it's funny as I was looking back through the Ripper engines the rumor engines multiple times now, you know with the benefit of hindsight, right? Multiple times they would do Like the same piece of a model, but they would split it into like two sections like this So you would get one image. It was the top part one image It was the bottom they did it with a mine stealers Frank's where they showed you like the front and then immediately around to his side Yeah, okay. Yeah, and so like it was just funny Nothing and it'd be like hey, I can snap multiple shots of this for a feature room in it, right? And then you could if you connected them you'd actually see a bunch of the model Yeah, right, but it's you don't know that until you have the benefit of hindsight. Yeah, um So yeah, obviously this guy's fantastic with you know the put-together cannons as a club good callback on the scaled arm That was obviously one of the choices in the old giant. Yeah, that's what I've got on my giant right here He's got his little scaled arm So yeah, I dig this guy. Although. I think he's my least favorite really. Yeah, yeah, like I I am less Like I am he is less enticing to me now that he just looks normal Like when he was all barnacley and the one like sure sure sure like that was a lot more interesting to me than like Just like big dude in a speedo Yeah, yeah, I get it here like I just in fishnets literally. Um, no, I just I wish that Yeah, I don't know. I like but that said I think he has some of the best potential As like even Eddie said of like putting him in an IDK army. Oh sure about that Like and that's some of the interesting stuff to me is how do how do these get played out then you know in other armies Absolutely, and then finally I think we have my favorite. I I love this guy. This is amazing Um, so this is the siege breaker He at this hammer is one of the rumor engines is this thing right here Right, so you can see the rope and it's just out of frame But you can see you can actually see the little spiky bits kind of a little bit dangling off the side Yeah, so it is that this is the bottom of his hammer. Yeah So that's cool. There was they I think they actually showed a couple others But I couldn't find them and just like it's a lot of posts to search through by the way So I think he might have actually one more on him and I uh, there's also this like so boom Oh, here you go. So yeah, you're right. I'm sorry this the rudder thing that we said was a rudder I apologize somebody corrected me and you're absolutely right. This is actually on this giant. Thank you everyone for correcting me I'm sorry. This is the the the gate breaker. Um, He has this piece as his belt buckle, but they photoshopped out the giant behind him Yes, yes. Thank you everyone. Sorry about that. I knew I saw it I just when I when I was collecting all these I was like looking at all the giants and quickly scrolling And I saw this one matched up and then I forgot where I saw it. So thank you everybody um the uh, so yeah, this is great obviously the various uh, the the big, you know, uh Gate piece as his as his codpiece, I guess or whatever we want to call it. Yeah That is loin guard. Sure. Sure. Absolutely. I mean, it's the mask that makes this dude, right? It's the extortioner mask. It is although man. Do I love that tombstone on his belt? It's this dude is fantastic and somebody's asking did they always have four fingers And toes. Yes. They've always had four fingers and toes. Gargants only have four fingers and toes They're like cartoon people That is a classic thing. So I am seeing two people in his hand. Is that correct? That's correct Yeah, you can see two people in his hand. They have a uh, a zoom in shot They actually shared out Or somebody shared out, but this is one guy and you can see his arms coming up here like arm one arm two And then here's second guy arm one arm two in his legs Yep Yep Oh Is that a scaven doom bell I it's some kind of bell. I don't know what it's off of it. It actually looks more like the war cry bell Yeah, that's like the doom. Well, yeah Uh, so uh We should talk about the construction of the these guys like that is to say how we know they work So yes, this is a single kit. Yes, it does build all three I think this is the whole army. This is it like there's no additional kit to come. No, it's one box It's one box. It's a one box army. This is the knight army. Yeah. Yeah, it's imperial. It's imperial knights exactly like we said, right? uh and You will clearly much like the steam tank commander or the stegodon chief My guess is you'll you'll basically nominate or the actual imperial knights the way it works in their book Is you kind of can nominate one to be your hero in a general And so I would guess you do the same thing here and then they probably gain some extra abilities much like All of those aforementioned behemoth things do when they become heroes. Yep and uh We know that you can build a whole army out of these guys these guys and the existing giant kit. So again Oh, oh lights and armatures horns Yeah, that's a wardroft beetle No, that's wait, that's that's the wardroft beetle horns are so big Zoom in on it. You think I'm kidding. I'll put money that that's a wardroft beetle Um, it does her beetle like that's a beetle. Yeah, I mean it's the same shape It's clearly a baby version of that thing like my point is it's not the same size as a laurel's beetle No, no, no, no. No, she has a full grown one. Yeah, there you go. Yes. This is like a juvenile. He killed her Uh, but no good call And by the way the uh not to interrupt your rules, uh the the c1 Um has a dragon's neck scales on his one on his left wrist. Yeah It would be amazing So yes, much like sort of standard imperial knights before the introduction of the dominance class You'll effectively have two kits making this army, right? So you've got the these guys representing the full imperial knights and the little giants representing the armatures When I said a one kit army, what I mean is this is your new kit Right, you can build it completely like this much like you could run a full army. You don't need armatures, right? You can run a you can run an army completely out of imperial knights. I would assume it's the same here That's why I disagree Uh, anthony, he said that I think all three of these are heroes and the elgazers will become battle line I I just don't think so. There's not enough like one. That's just not That's not a great way that you would want to design this army I suspect because you want these guys to be able to be take multiples of them And you don't want all heroes in these dudes that being said Okay, let's say they go that direction I don't know the world like from a from a design standpoint It's not the end of the world if they go that way, um, you know There's somebody had said in the comments that there's rumors that they like these guys are uh They're reboxing the small gargants to be two in a box Um, and that that's completely plausible to me again talking to go back to knights. They're like the armatures Um, you know, and if those were battle line, like there's lots of build options for those gargants So like I don't hate that Um, and I would love an army of like two of these and then 12 little guys Yeah, I mean, well, that's and that's the thing, right? So I'm sorry everybody. I'll shrink. I'll shrink my blocks I somebody said I was covering up some of the images. Thank you. Um So, yeah, I like I don't have a problem with that per se It would just be the less fun option because then you would always be forced to take the tiny weedy ones, right? and I just like I don't I'm what I would much prefer to see is unless even the heroes become battle line in a uh in a Sure, where they're both heroes and battle line at the same time right something we haven't actually seen before Where they're literally occupying both slots Well, you're saying leader no like yeah, but they're they would just be leaders that become battle line And you just replace they retain the hero keyword and their battle line And they could do that and that wouldn't be the end of the world because you're not going to get more than like Four of these guys in an army anyways Yeah, yeah, and I would imagine we'll see a rules rewrite on the ale guzzler gargant scroll Of course to go with this one has to imagine that's going to change and stop being useless So that'll be exciting I would also imagine none of these dudes look like drunken idiots that are just falling over every two seconds. So I would Very much not expect to see that rule if you want to ruin this entire release for me gw Put that rule on all these scrolls and watch how quickly I sour No, not on all these scrolls. You just put it in the allegiance abilities Look, I don't have a problem with it if it's an allegiance ability I can turn on All right, if it's like you Sure, like you can get them drunk and then they get this list of benes, but this downside happens I'll be like cool never using that rule done, right? Yep, easy or I'll only use it if I have like charge re-rolls or something like that, right? I see. Yeah, sorry. Let's go back. So they so let's talk about okay So we know that it's going to have its own allegiance But they also said that these can be included in the army So, you know, what's funny about this? Any any army you can include one of these big mega giants in any army. Yes, you know, it's hilarious about this Sure. Um, a lot of people are really surprised by this You clearly haven't been watching our show because we reported this last month Yep, we did we reported that these will be the first gold faction and guess what folks that uh, now when we were talking about gold faction we were talking like Um In general vint and I when we were talking about that we're talking about something that the entire army can be any allegiance It seems like if these guys are their own allegiance or destruction, but they can be included in the army Yeah, they're like mega mercenaries. Yeah, they're like mega mercenaries, right? That's exactly right So like maybe this isn't technically our first gold faction But it is the uh, it is they can be included in in the army Yeah um so It it will be I mean, obviously these are the threes and and one thing we should say here is as with the classic giant One has to imagine that in fact you can build out a ton of different things here, right? Because all these bits are very interchangeable. Yeah, so this is going to be a very dynamic kit And you can see how the torso is changing based on sort of what they are Yeah, like based on kind of how you position My question is how do they do heroes? If these are if they have a hero build in each one It makes me wonder if if the hero thing is linked to the head maybe Because if torsos are going to be the same because they're not going to include six torsos No, there'll be one that you can see it's all the same torso and by the way all the same legs Like if you look they're all the same legs in the same they just it like if you just look at the legs They're all the same legs Okay Now the feet are different Notice how this foot is different than this guy's foot and that would be the same for the old giant right the existing giant Uh had one set of legs and one torso But then like different feet different hands different arms different heads and then a bunch of a kutramul to uh to you know Make those things decorated right and I would expect to see the same thing here How much of a miss is it? That we the stomper isn't actually stomping Well, you know look he can uh we can you I think that that's left up to us You can have him crushing something all you want So there you go. I do wonder I agree. I just like paul mentioned. I wonder if there are more Uh more heads. I I like the old kit had Five heads in it. I think I stopped my head. Well, that's what I'm saying like I could see them have six heads Right like if they did a hero build in a uh and a non-hero build Like if the heroes all had had things on their heads. So for example, we see the uh the gatecrusher have the The hood. Yep. I wonder if there's a gatecrusher without a hood Yeah, sure sure sure and and and that's how they designate like who are the who are the who are the leaders? They're the ones with things on their heads Yeah, sure Uh, I mean, this is just a super exciting release. This this is what I've been waiting for since they Since we first saw that sons of of uh bahamut battalion Five years ago now. Yeah, this is what I've wanted. This is what I dreamed about. So I mean, I remember you you begging for this army Yeah, yeah I've I've been on about this for a long time So this I I literally could not get these soon enough. I would uh If if there was some miracle where they did there where I could just be like you can pay double But they'd show up tomorrow and be like, all right. I'll probably do that Well, uh, I'm just gonna say this gw. You know if you're watching I know that you you pass kits off to professional painters Um to to do preview stuff occasionally This might be one that vince would be willing to paint up for you for the for the community say I will openly say I would be willing to pay one of these. Yeah, you want to throw a giant my way I'll take one. That's right. Look, I'm not above that. Okay. That's not even a little bit Uh, give me give me that giant and I'll get you a good paint a giant I love this is like, you know how much I love painting skin tone I know and so this is just uh, this is a dream come true for that I'm excited to see your non your non skin Yes, it sounds like uh, tom's kids are visiting and yes, I'm uh, I'm very excited about this one. So, uh It's it's just all in all great. They still use the old yohan as we see here in the preview video The question is do we have a new yohan that remains the great question? I mean, of course we do we have to I I sincerely hope so I have, uh Now I will say I have a stockpile of extra yohans Uh, as well as like I have a stockpile because I bought a bunch of giant kids homey when I say I have a giant army already I'm not joking. As I said, I've got like 10 giant kids and I used these I used a bunch of these bits for other things like I used to use the pieces as conversions on rat ogres and stuff like that Not the uh, so I've used these things all over the place So I I've got a bunch of the cages, which I've used multiple bits of you know, all that's kind of stuff Uh, I love the the the giant kid in general and I'm so excited to have a new kit with all these amazing bits Because if you just like just look at this guy, okay? Like let's just let's just really for a moment here talk about the bits Because again the great value Of the giant has always been the bits, right? So on the kraken eater. You have his Sharkbone necklace here. Yeah, right. Yep. You have this entire boat piece on his back That's the rumor engine with the dead corpse. You've got the cannon club the arm with the scales The this net piece over his gut Along with the tangy ball pieces here Uh, you have this entire uh, you know net. He's fished out of stuff, right? You've got the extra feet with uh, like gladiator sandals tentacles skulls, okay We look at the next guy at the siege raker Basically, none of those same things have been used, right right different arm guards They very intentionally like have a bunch of signature bits That will like that that read the different types of of giants Yep Exactly. So there's just like if you think like well, I built the I built this guy the siege breaker one, right? Or gate breaker. Sorry. Yep. Uh I built this guy Okay, cool. That means I have all of this is extra and all of this is extra Yeah, right It's just so much stuff you're gonna have in this kit for customization Right, like that bag with a bunch of people in it like if you're not building them Like I could just imagine hanging those from buildings 100% dude. Yes. Yes. Yes Yeah, so this is uh, this is just beyond awesome Imagine a tree like a nervel tree Which is like squat with a bunch of arms going out a bunch of directions and just like hanging a bunch of those bags All rotating a little bit So that it doesn't like it doesn't look like you've replicated the same bit like oh, there's just there's so much potential. Yep Uh, as nigel mills just mentioned it. I I will I will say to this Yes, nigel. I did see that. He said they talked about the city army that I built and they did the community article for yesterday Before the show began before the previews and I just wanted to say thank you to adam troke and to eddie That was very nice to comment on that. Uh, he was very He was very complimentary army and I appreciate that very much So thank you gentlemen both. That was super cool and I appreciate the shout out So it was a really fun article to write and do I've loved making that army. So thank you everybody who liked the article And uh, there's a tutorial up today about how I did the rush drinking on that if you want to see that so There you go All right, so, uh, I mean this out of 10 tom. What what's your number here personal aesthetic rating? Uh personal aesthetic, uh, I think they're like in a Okay, I'm I'm obviously at a hot 10 this would this max is the scale for me, right? So what's a miss for me by the way is that they all just look like dudes Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah Like I could have went with a little bit more fantastical and so it's so funny from me I know coming from me Who has been so critical of like the The weird a ossification of standard factions Mm-hmm like who elves I'm like elves. I don't like what they did, you know I don't like that aspect and like this just felt too safe Well, it's funny because we well, we had a big conversation about that, right? Uh, oh so snow fights at first time seeing these how big are these models here? I'll scroll back down snow. So you can see yeah, this is the comparison. They're on a 130 Um, this is the normal. I have a little size comparison for you here. You won't be able to see it See well, here's the normal giant. Here is a gale force nine giant. That's about the same height So that's how big theoretically they will be because this guy comes up to about the same place on this guy As this little image shows they said on the screen that they are archaeonsized Yeah, I don't know if I believe that but maybe that's just my own bias with how big my archaeons are Yes Sure, and for those curious Uh, let's see to which which is height wise I think archaeon is normally about 13 inches Yeah, and what that might suggest is that they're about 13 inches 10 12 to 13 inches That's and I just don't buy that. I think they're going to be 8 to 10 I really do stand like based on that. So let's let's do a little math here. Okay The existing giant his head is about four and a half inches tall Okay, so this this right here is about four and a half inches like I'm literally laying it on my mat Right now measuring it out and it's about four and a half inches tall Okay, yep. So if this guy is this tall then he's about eight He's about eight Right. Um, I don't have archaeon in front of me to go measure. So I I don't know I think archaeons normally around 12 13 from like wingtip like Probably the wingtips. Yeah, not at the head. Yes. Not at the head. Yeah, I don't he might be eight inches at the head Yeah, sure So at any rate, they're real big now to return to the aesthetic thing It's funny because you and I had a big conversation about this and the concept of like sacred cows And to you The elves have this sacred cow nature. And so seeing them altered in a dramatic way apparently now I don't I don't mean that in any negative connotation. I'm just sure. It's just it's just the the turn of phrase, right? yep, yep, yep, yep, and Uh, whereas giants are wide open my answer though is You know when I think about something like this These are going to be so ripe for conversion any army like this where you have Yeah, four to five models you can go nuts And these guys are a big giant canvas that you will be able to modify the living bejesers out of not just with the bits in a Kit but in general, sure, and I don't and I don't Discount that at all. It's just it's um, it's just very surprising to me that's why and that was the that's the difference for me between the eight and the 10 is because It seemed like it was so ripe for development and exploration and we just got giants Sure. Hey, which is what I wanted. So I know well, I I'm glad you got what you want, Ben Indeed, well, let's speak of something. Let's let's move on. I mean we could we could sit here and talk about giants forever But you know, there you go Yep, um So the uh, let's let's so we had this little black stone fortress thing Yep, cool. Yep. These little drones little spindle drones. That's cool. I yeah, you know warhammer quest I haven't played any of black stone fortress seems cool. I like all the figs these continue to be great figs Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie like I've been staring pretty hard at black stone fortress for a while um I don't know what this herald's You know because what they kind of alluded to was the fact that um There are implications here not only for the black stone fortress or for the wider universe. Yeah, sure Well, yeah, yes, but I was going to say that this is the culmination adventure that they've published here Which might suggest that they're not going to publish more black stone Like fortress content. Sure um, and which mean that like when that happens oftentimes they'll pull things from the market like not like Within like six to twelve months, you know, like this this could be this time next year, right? Yeah, the next year this product may not be available And so for me when I see this it makes me want to go. Okay. Well, if I want this I'm going to need to make decisions now um To to pick up this expansion and you know to pick up the other expansions I have loved the aesthetic of this game Um, and I hope that like I'm excited to see what they do next Yeah, I agree. This is this has been super popular because they've they've managed to do a bunch of expansions for it Right, right. You know, they have what I think I know they have ample and a couple others They have like four or expansions three or four expansions at this point Yeah, um, and it's just been something that uh, like I'm excited because they made a second like warhammer quest aos version I'm wondering if they're gonna move towards another 40k one You know at the at some point Regarding the the wider kind of exploration of the uh, and by the way, I think there are multiple builds of these guys Okay, like there's two here But in the one image one of them had a bunch of bull at holes near the eye Like on one of the zoom in pans and so I think there's different faceplates that you can build these guys as um That's an aside, uh, the other thing I was going to say is I think that what you're seeing here by the way is a new faction Oh, that'd be me I think that what they're teasing here It like the the sentience of the Blackstone fortresses I think what we're gonna find is that they're probably like uh dormant motherships of this like of of this new Oh, like it wakes up and becomes a new army when it releases all of that force within it. Yeah, sure. That'd be neat I would dig that. Yeah, and what we'll find is that you know, there are many Blackstone fortresses Right, and they're basically like all in network tandem. And so what you're going to get is you're going to get a new Row basically pure robot army You know, what one of the sure sure which which they don't have Like well, I mean, yes, because the necrons are and yes, I know what I just said, uh are are different obviously they're They are robots They're terminators in a different way and because of the renewed significance of Blackstone, right? Like you know, and they talk about that later in the psychic awakening reveal and the in the null properties of it Um, like I like I think all this narratively for them is all related I think it's all tied together Yeah, one of the things that I really like about the Blackstone fortress in general is that It actually gives you a chance to see the other stuff in the universe that isn't the big armies and they like Eddie mentioned this in the show that like, um There's a lot of corners of the warhammer 40k universe that there's just not enough to make an army out of We talked about it. We'll talk about it later in relation to the inquisitors, right? And the things like the fortress or the special models or the psychic awakening gives them a chance here and there to explore that stuff And it's funny because I actually agree like I don't like any 40k armies. I find them all to be sure not interesting Okay, uh exempting the sisters a battle of course um The the the the general lore of the most popular things that have been around forever like the space marines and And orcs and stuff like that. I just find it all pretty non interesting Holy and uninteresting to you. Yeah to me personally. That's not a judgment by the way on the quality of it There's a lot of great writers doing great stuff and a lot of people love it and that's cool Love what you love But I find the other things these other little elements in us. Yeah, like the small corners of the world Yes, not not the main thrust of the stuff with the small corners Yes, the inquisitors and the rogue traders and that kind of stuff is just super cool to me Uh, that's the kind of weird stuff. I love I want to like be I want to understand You know like world works. Yeah, the universe works. That's not Space marine battles. Yes. Yes. Like it's such a massive massive thing this and it's not chaos, right? That is to say That is to say there is some organization here and bureaucracy and steps and things and levels and And I'm fascinated by this society and the fact it's functioning I want to like it's my own weird thing, but I want to know like what does their economic system look like Like how are they trading? How does, you know, like, yes, I understand how ships and rogue traders and stuff like that I get all that but like what is there an international monetary fund? How's that work? You know, it just right right who's who's giving out loans? Like I'm just fascinated by millions of worlds. Yeah, yeah, exactly So anyway, no, I agree with that and I like it's fascinating to me and I think that Um, like I'm interested to see how this develops Yeah, because like this is a product that I would buy I don't think I would ever buy like try to buy a warhammer or 40k army Just because it's not where my heart's at, you know, like I'm an aos fantasy guy But like I could be in for more like small scale stuff like this Especially if it's self contained. Yep. Um, like I I went in on on kill team and it was interesting to me But it was just so unending And so sprawling of a product line that it it wasn't something that I could get behind But this yeah, like I could get behind this right. It's a very self-contained thing All right. So next up we got another luminous preview Uh, specifically we got to see this girl for the in her entirety for the first time which seemed kind of accidental It almost felt like it right like they they just kind of was like boom and brought it up and it was like Well, like somebody was like I guess we're looking at this thing. Yeah, like elven aesthetic I guess that was the keyword, you know, like somebody triggered upon the accidental like Topic change, you know phrase It was hilarious. Um, yeah, uh Yep Mm-hmm Yeah, there she is there she is Uh, I I did not realize until we got this full image that not only does she have a completely insane hat like all Luminous, which this is this is a new level of insane hat, by the way But does she but does she look at the look at the one pan? Is it really a hat? Uh, I understand what you're saying because you're saying it comes out of her back piece back. Yeah. Yeah But it's over her head. You know that doesn't mean Uh, that's getting snipped Well, it's so funny because yes The this like this belt piece she adds a new layer. I'm calling this a hat. Yes, I understand what you're saying Like but not only does she have an insane hat. She also has an insane belt like this is a belt like I Definitely not going through doors normally. Yeah, he has to turn sideways. Well, how does she sit down? It's got to be very awkward depending on like to keep her away from couches. She'll tear a hole in those No, I mean like I I have so many jokes that are inappropriate that I'm just going to hold off on I'll tell you the thing that occurred to me It's actually not the hat or the helmet thing because like, okay, cool She puts this little weird regalia on to go to battle jokes about doors aside, right? Sure. Um, like I'm super fine with her having You know weird this sort of funny Uh regalia that she wears into battle because yes, obviously if she was just walking around her house She wouldn't have this sort of thing on right? Yeah What was actually funny to me Is that all I could think the whole time I look at this model this model makes me uncomfortable Okay, and I couldn't figure out what it was Until I realized it's this She's wearing this like gossamer veil and she's also carrying a smoking Chalice of something that's burning like insects or whatever what gonna blow it's gonna hair veil is blowing into the chalice Into the chalice. Yeah, I was like, whoa, wait here light your face on fire Like this feels like material that would go up like a shot if it hit heat, right? Like if you've ever seen these gossamer things get hit touched by fire, they just go woof, right? Yeah Uh, and so all I could think was oh, no, she is going to light her face on fire Like if the wind relaxes for a second or she changes position that is just woof her head's gone Yes, no, you're not wrong Uh, so things that caught my eye, right? Because I've been I've been staring at the iconography and stuff like this for a while um The rune on her headpiece is new Oh cool So that center rune Uh in the big moon thing Is is is a new rune and I don't think it's in any of the uh, it's not on teclas's belt Um, and so that's striking to me. Um in that it's you know invoking new imagery. Sure. Um The uh, the other thing that I picked up and we've seen it repeatedly I think all of the elves in this army will have their hair braided You can see it in the uh in the chalice. You can actually see her hair the tail end of her hairpiece Um, and so it looks like her her main hair is braided and it and like a long braid runs her down her back, assumedly um Yeah, it's interesting. Um I I don't know how to respond to this Sure Like uh, I mean, it's fine. I'll say one way I'll respond is that the uh, every metal team certainly did a really good paint job on this Uh, I think this is this is excellently beautifully painted. So That is it. I think she has very meaty hands and feet Um, okay, it's I mean they seem pretty Normal, I don't know. Do they You know by the scale of what we normally have hands and feet sized at yeah So is your does your hand like if you were to make a fist from the bottom of your hand to the top of your like top Knuckle, it's larger. I'm not gonna say it doesn't run your chin to eyes because this one does sure I understand Classically, they've had the classically warren models have had larger hands feet. I mean, we're not talking about tomb king skeletons here I mean I mean Not far off like it like so there are aspects of it that just simply feel disproportion Gotcha And I think the feet in the hand the hand that's gripping the necklace And the toe like the feet and toes feel disproportionate Now, I don't know if they will when I have the model in hand Sure And I don't know if it's just a factor of because it like some of the brightest things on the model is the skin here That it's grabbing my eyes, but they're just so heavy that they're literally pulling my hands Yeah, as as crazy are said say that they said they're almost hobbit like yeah Yeah, um, and I don't know how to respond to that like I it's Yeah So yeah, no there you go Uh, we got to see this model for the full time. So that's cool. Yeah Yeah, it makes me wonder the way they've kind of talked if there's more models to this range Like I know I've been saying that there's not Uh, but the way that that um, they were talking on air seemed to suggest that there might be even more Sure, one has to guess that there's uh, oh, this is by the way the skedari cathalar or something like that I don't I don't know if I they have a pronunciation guide down at the bottom of the article Uh, and the other thing we should say about her is they said that her Sinari Cathalar. Oh, there you go. Sinari. Thank you. Um, so at any rate she uh, she weaponizes emotion is what they described Right, and she forces other people to take the battle shock tests of the elves Now what exactly that means who yes, yeah, who knows who knows what that looks like um Yeah Uh, and if this is an elite army like you're not going to lose a whole bunch of models Sure. Now aesthetically I do like that. She's Uh barefoot. I think that's actually a good call because as somebody mentioned She's trying to be in touch with the realm, right? It's to keep her the mage who's the most in contact with it There's no material separating her from the realm from the realm. No, yeah Yeah, I agree. So it's a it's a nice little design aesthetic But yes, I do. I I will say that like from a design aesthetic standpoint I really like the The rune on her belt Yeah, here and how it mirrors her head piece Yeah, so that that is eye catching and from a model of balance standpoint as much as I joke about like stepping off the The head piece you'd have to literally modify the belt as well Well, you just slice right here slice right here and then cut off the piece that's sticking into the back Because it's going to be a join like this into the back, right? You just don't do that putty that piece. Boom done I mean, this is it would if you don't like the belt in the head piece It really would be incredibly easy to change like this is not a difficult But yeah, not at all Uh, so yeah, very cool Uh, okay next up. Oh boy did not see this coming and this is this made me happy Oh, yes, my friend. So we've been talking on the show multiple times when rumor engines came up We said It's either an underworld thing or you know what maybe we're going to get some new non-chaos work or cry war bands Even though we had no evidence that that was ever going to happen We multiple times, right or that that was possible, right? We said that that would occur and guess what boom shaka laka the canite shadow stalkers Uh, which by the way clearly we haven't seen all of them as there is a witch elf looking girl right here In the silhouette and she is none of these and they also mentioned that we're going to see three of them here And they said there's they said most of these come in about a dozen. Well, they don't they come in eight to ten But okay, so doing the math there's 10 to 12 of these girls right Or of these sorry of these uh of this faction Uh, and so obviously this one pulls on some of the aesthetic of the misweaver sigh Say yeah, how are you say yeah say like so this is what I'm going to say I I love everything about this release. There was the rumor engine that matched it by the way We did have a rumor engine for this one. I knew We had something special As soon as the war cry trailer came up and you know what signaled it for me I'm ready the purple Oh, okay. Sure. Sure. Sure see because up until this point all of our videos for the war cry releases Have had red red. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, I think that this is signaling the next quote season Of releases. Yeah, um with the purple Um, I don't know that the whole branding is going to change for books and everything But I think that like when I saw that red or the purple I knew we had something different right This is so great. Like this model is freaking fantastic, right? I mean It's I love the the the hook of this thing We saw in the rumor engine coming through the weapon sort of trailing the shadow Melving into the cloak like all of it just being one smooth circular piece is gorgeous Uh, let's take a look at some of the other the other figures. Uh, so here's our our cloaked figure Uh Whipping out so so, you know, I clearly like throwing the shadow cloak emerging from it with a knife in their hand Looking very cool And then we've got always my personal favorite aesthetic I've played this dnd character the double hand crossbow wielder, right a double repeating crossbows in this case But uh, I love it. I love that Like I just love the aesthetic of the gunslinger and the multiple Just It's great. It's freaking great Uh, these are are all three of these male Uh, I know at least two of them are It's kind of hard like this is clearly male The the the shadow stalker popping out of the cloak is the only one I am unsure about Okay, so you're saying this is definitely a male Which was the face shield guy. Yeah, face shield. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Um, yeah, I think that's definitely about so here's what I'm going to say Yes, and this is that's what I'm going to comment on as well. I love to see What murathi has done with all of our dudes? Sure. If they're not riding shirtless Um riding horses shirtless Uh casting spells then their dudes are out here Um, which would suggest that that all like maybe this is where the other male Like where where there are other wizards are right because in the lore for daughters of kane your ladies Are all your warrior your choppy choppies And all the wizards are snake people, right? And exempting, of course, you're the you're doing fire warlocks And so like now what we're seeing is we're seeing more dudes using magic Um, and they're doing the shadow stuff and I just love it. I love I love everything about this this release this launch this tease Like it's just I love how it ties back with the mist weaver or we're beginning to learn maybe what some of our allegiances were Sure. And again, I owe it like I as I said many times a long time ago. There was a magic set release called plane shift and the first set was the first big set was the past where they They reprinted a bunch of old cards into the set And then the second car the second set was the present and played with time in weird ways, right? So shifting around the present and the third set was called far sight and it had It was the weirdest set because it was a bunch of one-off cards that had mechanics That would literally only appear on one card because they were future shifted, right from some future set Some of them some of those cards were literally things that they took out of an upcoming release That was one set two sets three sets away and already in development And they threw them in some of them were just guesses Right and have never come back yet and never come back again exactly and so The the thing to realize with what happened with war him request and the misweaver say say see Is that uh That doesn't have like They didn't make that Most likely as we've seen at this point as part of some grandiose plan No, they were thinking like okay This is a cool aesthetic. This is something we might want to explore Let this is probably a test model or a test sculpt for something Let's see how it looks and then when they had the chance to expand this they can good They can now go back and sort of plumb that right and say okay now we can This one looks like a merger between the tenebral shard Like aesthetic So if like look at the leather pants on the double crossbow guy Yeah So like this harkens to the the tenebral shard and to the misweaver, right? Um, and you know, it makes me laugh that the one wizard here with the staff Um, I mean, I don't know if he's a wizard or not, but uh, like has the moon iconography as well Like of teclis like womp womp womp sure. Sorry teclis Well, not only that hold on actually, okay I want to see something. Okay. Um the uh, the so the cross rune on that staff on on the wizard Yes, this is yes is remarkably similar To the the new rune that I just called out on the headpiece So Something to think about sure. Okay Uh, and I'm I think this one's actually a female. Let me just say there's other people in the comments saying as much And I I tend to think the same, but we'll see Uh, maybe it's always kind of tough to tell with some of these elf models And that's fine, especially when we don't when we can't 360 them Don't care either way to be completely honest. I dig the heck out of all these I can't wait to see the rest like the fact that we have You know potentially at least seven more sculpts From this army coming Or sorry, this this war cry warband apologize. Let me just say this reinforces to me that we have another Okay, or another daughter's book coming Oh, you think that ultimately they would release this in line with an additional daughter's Like down like I think a daughter's book is probably was let me say was I don't know that it it still is Was coming down uh down later this year this fall is what I predicted And this would maybe suggest that indeed like it is coming and that this would be These would maybe be included in that book. It would make sense much like, you know, we've seen similar things Yeah, I think doc has been we've talked many times about the how that army is this Is a house of cards that somehow has like a really sharp knife perched on top of it, right? Right, right And that it is really ripe for a remake with a modern sensibility Yeah So I would I would love to see a new daughter's of cane book Obviously it might make me want to play my daughter's of cane again. Sure. Sure Let me just say actually looking at my bookshelf. It struck me the other day That there are four books that you know, we've talked about how are in this weird middle place Where they switched they switched the the Spine and to the new to the new logo, but they didn't fully switch the spine and this is what struck me So they had the new logo with the new coloration Which is like the wider binding with the new war age of sigmar like branding. Yep But at the bottom they have the old hammer From the first edition book And so when you if you have all the like the second edition stuff on a bookshelf as I do When I look at it, I can see the four books that are in that in-between season. Yeah, sure Which are daughters of cane Ida neth deepken Legions of negash and maggotkin of nergal, right? Um, and it's the four that we've always said have been in this weird spot Even the books themselves like call out to that in their like where they show that they are they are bridging this gap between editions. Yep so Uh, she's gorgeous and again, they did they did a great job. I love the face mask. It looks wonderful. That is so cobra commander Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, will she have a special ability to call a retreat and everybody jumps into the shadows and disappears? One can only hope. Oh, man. That would be amazing. Uh, I Retreat And maybe and maybe they continue the the daughters of cane Uh tradition of the heroes being buried in other people's boxes Sure, where like this is an actual hero and you have a bunch of like norm normie troops Um in the box sure like when the book finally releases, you know, yeah, we'll see All right, so uh, cool stuff there. Uh, we had these little dudes for blood bowl. I'm not a blood bowl player But I will say Tom you have to admit. Oh, man. I saw that and I was like The pump wagon, you know like I just Like I just like I grinned ear to ear like I wish like as soon as I saw this drop I was just like oh still be still my heart It's like I remember when I got into war hammer Um, like one of my first armies was o and g, right? Yep, and I was wanting to convert everything and I was trying to find a pump wagon and like there just wasn't a good option at all And then I saw this, you know, like when I saw until like I had my own like conversions And I was actually just going through my own g bits yesterday And I found all my like old pump wagon stuff and I'm just like man I just wish there was something like this in aos and boom done Like I love it. I love that We have this new plastic model that we could convert over and and and move into you know, like and make some have some fun out of Yeah, yeah, um And I love all of the obviously all the uh uh, the grotlings, um Just they are so characterable and that then that continues in this, you know, these are such wonderful Adorable sculpts. Yes, the guy just throwing a rock wearing like a pseudo wizard hat Where's the I want to find one of these guys this dude who has like an oversized sock on he has one sock Yes, right and it's clearly from a bigger being But then also we have it's Another guy with a sock on his head Uh, the ball that he's writing this sort of proto squig Uh, that seems very concerned about this situation That he finds himself in The the fungus flinger guy here The dude on stilts. I mean, these are just adorable So yes, this is this shows the the power of blood bowl and how blood bowl could be fun And this is the kind of thing I love my my favorite is the guy that took the normal wizard hat And has sewn a nose and like chin Like the uh like the standard moon clan. I'm in the process like you guys can't see this. I'm in the process of assembling uh, uh a war cry Squig hopper warband and so Like I've been I'm I'm very sensitive to the nose and chin aesthetic that they like That is just Completely repeated throughout the range and I love that it's like teased out here in a bunch of very subtle ways right It should be noted that these guys are going to be so small Like these are they're tiny Itty bitty minis like these are true minis. They will be little tiny Those are like on 25 mil bases. I know right like look how much space there is on that 25 mil You know what? I can't wait to see is a battle diorama between these grotlings And half and and nerglings. Oh sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, these guys are the size of nerglings. Mm-hmm. Yep Yep He's like that's what a nerbling would look like on a 25 mil base and it would be the most adorable fight ever Absolutely. Just the cutest diorama showed out in history. Yeah Uh, so yeah, awesome stuff. Uh, the the blood bull team continues to kill it there in Forge World Uh, next up we had this dude sol targets. I don't know anything about the horse heresy Other than the obvious like I know the basic stuff Yeah, apparently this guy's an emperors children commander who fought against Horace in one of the first places Yep, and then he died. Yep, and then he died Okay, cool stuff. Good for him Uh, now we have a model a couple models. I am pretty excited for even though they're 40k Somebody already mentioned it and I do agree. I want to steal this inquisitor for my whirlwind's edge army All right, I want this to be my empire general on foot I'll I'll jet it's in the shuriken pistol because that's too like that's too far gone Right, right, but the rest of the armor actually looks not very space marini. It does look very platey, right? Yes, and I think it would fit great. I love the little dragon creature. You may need to do something with that The power fist Where oh over here. No, you just got the tubes. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's easy Um, you know, it's what I've done. I've done that a couple times actually with with conversions Like I just got rid of things that look too techy Like extra tubes and stuff going around the dirt that which it wouldn't be there This inquisitor is so great. I as I said earlier, I love the inquisitors in that whole section of the of the world And I think this is a really gorgeous model Yeah It's fantastic I I love her, you know, it's funny because these are all part of the pariah like release. Yeah When they've really done other releases like this, are these all like a single box with all these or are they individual models? Uh, I remember what gathering storm you would each release would have its own box with a bunch of like Dispirate models together. Yeah, sure And I'm wondering if these guys are going to be in a box with the other pariah models Sure, like do you get the inquisitor and the necron in the same box? I have no clue I don't I haven't looked any of them and the other Like and the other two from the pariah box or the which was the um the sister battle Right though like oh the pariah Yeah, and the the elf the duelist I I think those two are clearly their own box They're gonna be their own thing. Yeah, and that's what I that's what I'm unsure of sure Uh, I don't know my guess is it'll be individual stuff So you'll get just the inquisitor and you'll get just the the necron because they don't make sense It would be very rare you're buying both of them and previously when they did shove multiple models together They were all still army aligned Right like this was all the yanari and this was all the you know the imperium guys. So, uh I would have to say that they'll probably be individuals, but yeah, I love this. I want to get this model because she looks, uh, honestly quite fantastical I mean that in in the take off the shuriken pistol. By the way, I love that there's a That there's a purity seal on a shuriken pistol. That's just super awesome Um, that's that's that is a weird clash of ideals in the in the imperium certainly Well, it's it's her stamp of approval. Absolutely this this gun has been approved. Yes. It's been sanctified uh but, uh This is she looks awesome. I really do dig the heck out of her and then Then you've got this dude this big necron dude who as well is by the way a rumor engine Let me go ahead and bring that up. Oh, we didn't talk about this. I'm sorry. Hold on. Hold on. Oh Sorry, we got ahead of ourselves here. I forgot Back back back these girls. All right other rumor engines that I think will fit in this war cry warband Oh, okay. Yeah, so we had this one. I apologize everyone I prepped this stuff and then forgot what I was doing because I got so excited about these girls Okay, so other Rumor engines that I think are gonna fit here This one this is the double ended dagger thing like the double spined Dagger thing with the gem. Yep. Okay. I think this will be in this force Feels like this kind of shadowy stalker weapon might also be a 40k thing, but I hope it shows up here And the what we described as like maybe the slanesh bowl Yeah, it could also be a cane thing of just skulls and kind of a big pot of boiling blood or whatever I think this will also show up in this force. Those are my guesses Interesting Just guesses So there you go. All right. Sorry everyone. I just I wanted to point that out So let's go back to the necron guy now. I don't keep saying it that way This dude is amazing. This is ridiculous. He does have a rumor engine up on his shoulder Which was this little piece of the blackstone fortress this noctolith or whatever it's called this psychic dampening rock and Yeah, this dude is truly epic The only thing that makes me sad about this dude is the awful gw metal paints that they're forced to use to paint him Beyond that. He looks amazing Uh, I love that they even played with a little bit of osl. There's a picture here where you'll see that There you go. You can see that where the green beam is shooting out They actually captured a little bit of it reflecting. This is a horrific Horrific scene of what this guy is doing to this This ciker good god almighty. That is a nightmare scene like wow That is gore on a level you don't often get In a lot of fakes despite the fact we're talking about war that is Pretty rough. Uh, the way his skin is melting to muscle is melting to bone this transition here woof Yeah, he's good. I dig it. That's that is fantastic um Little dark, you know, it is a little dark. I mean, it's not as dark as like brain rats on storm fiends But it's pretty dark. Sure. It's uh, it's dark um Somebody mentioned they want the guy being uh connor said I want the guy being trained for his negash Yeah, I can see that like taking some of that energy and whipping it up into negash Uh, you because you could use like you can get rid of the armor and just use like any kind of body Just use the arm and the head Yeah, and there you go, and you'd have that Uh, so that's easy. That's an easy peasy conversion Uh, I love the look of this guy's weapon. They did a great job on that Yeah, the suit's big obviously and uh, I love the walker You know, he's on four legs, right? Yeah, he's on this little spider walker body Yeah, let's do sweet is all get out Uh, yes, if I was ever going to if there was ever a 40k force besides sisters of battle that it was kind of interesting it would be The the the negrons just because who doesn't love terminators, right? Sure emotionless robots So then we had a little hammer and bolter preview which is cool the sisters battle for episode two Which I'm excited to see all these anime. They mentioned the illusion to Love death and robots which obviously that's what the series is going to be like right where every Every one of these episodes is a completely different animation style and they'll be short Very punchy stories, right? Yep. I like to love death and robots. What excited me here though was them mentioning that uh season one Is going to be all about 40k But that they are also exploring doing The mortal realms and age of sigmar in this for season two So having some some see some mortal realm stories in there, which sounds awesome I would love to see some mortal realms animation. That sounds great Uh, totally agree Make that happen andy get get on it I'd love to see the expressions of some of the cities like it's all kids from city of secrets Yeah, like there's just some that like I think animation just really lends to the some of the really just truly fantastical environments um For aos Absolutely agreed. I would I would honestly love to see one focused. Yes in a city I would like the interesting places you could explore I would love to see like a I'll tell you. All right. Here we go, tom Let's sketch out four episodes of the aos series. They got to be short They've got to be punchy and they have to do something cool and explore something What is obvious conflict? So you mentioned a city. What are you in the city? Oh, what's your idea in the city? Go ahead? You have order of azir hunting down as each cult boom bang exactly done done and dusted put that one in the can That's done episode two So when the endless spells went went rogue right at the because of the necro quake They mentioned how there are wizard bounty hunters who go out there and actually wrangle these things. Yeah, okay I want the wizard bounty hunter story Where there's a wizard bounty hunter tracing near the edges of the of a mortal realm where it's getting wild with magic And things are getting crazy and I want that one to be the psychedelic episode Yeah, and I want him to hunt down a purple sun. Yes. Yeah, like a sentient purple sun. Yeah, absolutely That's that's actively dodging Ragnar Ragnar the the purple sun. Yeah, sure Uh episode three, uh, I want set in the bloodwind spoil Okay, and I want it to be the story of a sort of chaos champion Who ends up like who has this who who has the standard chaos arc? Which is to say he crushes a bunch of people and then falls You understand? I mean like I don't mean falls to chaos I mean he gets what he wants and it wasn't what he wanted after all and it turns out it turns into Uh A just a horror story once he achieves what he actually think he want he wants right Yeah, I would like a like a disillusioned. Are you ready for the last one? I'm ready um, you have a KO operation Like a shipping operation on a time crunch. Yeah, sure. Um, and a walk has blown through Okay, and so they're trying to navigate like to get there with like dodging like wyverns and uh, and what ends up happening is you get some of the The sky bashes Uh in stolen ships. Well, see it's funny because my argument was it's funny. You mentioned that mine was I love the KO angle I would just rather see them fight scaven. So it's so it's okay Being dogged by evil scaven technology, right as they're sure you can do that I like I like the because I like I'd want I'd want some chaos in there or not chaos I want some destruction. I know and so like and to treat the log like the force of nature like a hurricane has blown through Um and part of that being like, you know, like they're trying to navigate this and then also deal with these other like pirates These are working pirates So I'll throw out a fifth episode. Yes. Okay. One of the most disturbing episodes of love death and robots or whatever, right? was I don't remember its name, but it's the one where the guy ends up on a space station And uh in the middle of nowhere and he wakes up And somebody he knew from years ago was there and is like, oh your ship you jumped through the you know You jumped through light speed wrong and you ended up here in this space station This is just kind of like, you know, it happens every so often people end up out here, right? And he slowly starts to realize things are wrong And then she like has to knock him back out and wake him back up again And the question is how long has he been living this and then they go from showing you the beautiful space station that he thinks he's on to the like horrible You know insectoid kind of image of what's actually happening In in reality. So the difference between what he's perceiving and reality. Yeah Yep, I would love love to see the same concept No, well, sure. Oh imagine Imagine fc with knights and all that and then thinking that they're on their noble quest and then going to the You framed the whole thing as knights on a noble quest and then at the end you reveal what's actually going on Sure, you can do it with every see you could do it with uh slanesh Right and have it be somebody who thinks Yes, who haven't be somebody who thinks they're like they're doing something great and glorious and then So the illusion here being do you remember marvel's ultimates? How um Uh god why can't I think of his name stupid? He was just in the most recent spider-man movie fishbowl head Uh, misterio tricks wolverine. Yes, misterio trick wolverine into killing all the x-men, right? Okay that so we do that plot But it's slanesh sort of tricking somebody into thinking who's really after being the best warrior and bringing down all evil It's perfectly a storm cast as storm a storm cast knight quester Right who then wakes up and sees at the end the horror that they have wrought Right, uh, then the givers of secrets whispering into your yes You cut with it like the with the truth being revealed on the keeper Yeah, like that old image of the I think it was an elf being licked on the side of the face by the keeper of secrets or whatever Yeah, that's your end shot Yeah, the third option would be somewhere would be you could do the same thing with zinch Right where you have a wizard or a builder who thinks they're discovering and amazing things and pushing science And then it turns out what they've what they've actually been doing is feeding zinch the whole time The point is yes do something like that. That would be amazing Uh, if you're looking for story notes all these are more than you I freely release all of these to be used andy go ahead knock yourself out Turn those into real stories ideas are worth nothing scripts are worth everything so go for it Turn those into gold spin this straw into gold Uh, okay, and then finally we had they they showed us the new event exclusive models Which we can also order for the next two weeks. I actually want to do these in reverse order. So the first was this librarian guy Okay cool Yep, fine. He's in terminator armor And then this one which I don't know if everybody can see this but hold on I gotta figure out which way I need to move my chair Nope. See I'm going exactly the wrong direction Yeah, there we go. She's right there Right there. That's her This is my poster that hangs in the center of my wall I have this art print of the giant sisters of battle Uh of this image and I love it. It's it's like it sits behind me in every show And uh, yes, I absolutely love this image. This is my favorite image of all time from the sisters of battle Uh, it is like it's right above the cover of the 92 Uh Book cover that that that john blanche did and this girl looks so good like this big looks so good, dude Oh my god, I want to get this girl so bad I just I've always loved how one of the problems I have is that they painted the boulder of this like bronze color And in here it doesn't feel bronze. It feels so much more beaten and smoky and black So I don't know like that was what I looked at and I was like, oh Also, I wish they had captured a little more of the one of the things I love about this art Is it has this vedal sesame sheen on the hair so perfectly like I would absolutely want to capture that this is One of the best pieces of art That they did for sisters ever it's glorious and this is a I think a great representation of it So I don't know who sculpted this Uh heads off to who hats off. Sorry She's gonna take some heads off, but hats off to Whoever sculpted this on the team. I think you did an amazing job So well well done well done design team Yeah I could have uh, I could have went for some aos models. Sure. Sure. I get it It's it is kind of a shame that they that they did that we don't have any aos exclusives, but you know So like or even like the other previous ones like being made available for made to order Like there's a lot of those storm cast out there. I don't know like, you know Whether the storm cast specific ones like the night quester or the the orkey's smashy guy storm cast guy or uh, even older stuff like the night haunt Like I don't know. I just It seems like a missed opportunity Like gw I want to give you money now. I'm not going to give you money like because there's nothing I want Well, I will be buying this model. So don't worry. You're getting half the money on this podcast Uh, but what I'll say is Uh You know, we'll we'll get a year. Don't worry, Tom. We'll get it. I mean, maybe Maybe they won't be 40k models forever. We'll get a year. It's it's only been 40k models up until this point All things in due time my friend that you know the old statement the best things come to those who wait, so There that's all you got to do. All right. So, uh, This is it. This is that's that's the whole preview. I mean, I'm going to go back to you here, Tom So, you know, put your pants back on stop picking your nose or whatever. Here we go Okay, uh, and we'll bring back up a nice little image down here in the corner We'll bring back up this nice gate breaker thing Yeah, I'll tell you man This is what I wanted. We should talk about future previews just very quickly. Uh, they did say this is the last one until may Keep them in mind and they didn't give a date in may. They just said may For obvious reasons. Yeah, right because So let's talk about what would have been the world that would have been right Okay, the world that got blown up. Yes uh Warhammer fest was set to start That were not next weekend, but the weekend after the Yep, okay. Yep, and they always do a big reveal at warhammer fest That's that's we get follows on adepticon. You get normally 40k or what is it normally? It did varies I think it's it's generally just a big reveal because they're doing it at their that's their show Yeah, yeah And it's So you've got you've got three competing things here going on that we should we should lay out, right? One warhammer fest was coming and so there was clearly another big reveal They they would want to do had we not had this global pandemic, right? Yeah. Yeah, two The their current date for when they sort of had everything locked down till was may 2nd Yep, okay Three the uk just went just extended their sort of lockdown that they have For another three weeks as of whenever I don't know what the actual last date if that was all right Um But that would push it to the week after warhammer fest basically into the week after the second right Who knows what that ends up allowing? Okay, uh for them to go back. They don't know Obviously, right. They can't make any commitments. They can't make any commitments They have to they have to take care of the health and safety of their people and respect the government orders and everything like that first And that is that has always got to be the priority I'm sure that they are ready and raring to get back to to going as are we all and if they can do so safely they will And so my personal expectation would be That reveal that was going to be on the 2nd They're hoping Will be or not the 2nd. Sorry. What is that actual Saturday? Yeah, it is the 2nd. I'm sorry. We're so wherever fast that reveal show would have been on saturday the 2nd I imagine in their mind, they're hoping they can do it on the 9th Yeah, and I suspect that the you know, martin, I think orlando said this that I agree with him that I suspect that they're wanting to give an opening date Like they want to like they want to push it late enough so that they can actually announce when the next Launch of models is hypothetically going to be right and one would assume that the uk government over the next three weeks of their their sort of lockdown assuming they actually Do flatten the curve and get things to where they should Uh and where they hope to obviously Uh is Um Is that you'll then have some kind of opening plan and so gw will understand when and where people are allowed to go And what it's going to look like and what they aren't aren't allowed to do And so then they can start setting their own plans in accordance with that and one would imagine that we'll see that next show On either like the 9th or the 16th depending on obviously how that all happens. Sure all of that is Just supposition intensive and Obviously super subject to change because who the hell knows in the end what's going to happen, right? Yeah, no one does Uh, so All in all this was great. I mean look Give me them giants. Yeah, I gotta give me some of them giants, baby Uh, I can't get them soon enough Uh, but I but I don't want to do that Anybody to endanger themselves for giants for my giants I would if it was like vents. Are you willing to endanger yourself to go to the uk and get them giants? You're like coronavirus or giants. I'll take my chances. I'll take my chances I want them giants, but I wouldn't be only I would then have to put myself into self quarantine for For a few weeks, which would be fine. I don't need to see another human being for two weeks I'd be painting giants. What do I need other human beings for? It's ridiculous. So here's the question vents How many boxes do you start with of giants? So assuming that they cost like they cost and we think they're going to like I don't mean dollar wise I mean points wise right do you buy six out of the gate? Uh, no, I don't because I don't think like I think that's not because I don't Want more than could go in an army. I famously like more big monsters than can fit in an army, right? Right, right, right Uh, but I think the answer is five Okay, okay. So almost six is the answer. Yeah. Yeah. Do you buy any original giants? I think I still have at least one original giant Uh, as unbuilt. Yeah. Yeah. I pretty sure I still have one on sprue. Yeah, I have one on sprue as well And I have a gorgon on sprue Uh, who would fit in actually as a nice muscular giant so I might use some of his bits to make another giant um So, uh, there's certainly possibility there That's that's my ultimate answer, Tom Okay, so five plus maybe some of what you already have. Yeah, I think five is the right answer The original gargants. I have so many of them already I don't I don't know that I need a bunch more So do you have a theme in mind for your gargon army because clearly you're all in and so the question is is like How all in that's that's what does that mean? That's the challenge. I don't know yet If if you all out there watching have got a good idea drop it down a comment I would love to hear suggestions thoughts about cool themes for a giant army because you're right And that's why I probably won't use any of my old giants. I'll start with because you may want a unified theme Right, exactly. I don't want it to just be a bunch of giants. I would like them to have some cool thing going on So hey, if people have thoughts drop a comment. I'd love to see it. I people have such great ideas So so you're not going to do like a tour of the mortal realms with one one giant from each uh realm Could be that could be a way to go Uh, I don't know I I have I haven't thought about it because I haven't here's the here's the thing tom I haven't allowed myself to think about it yet Because you hadn't seen models because I hadn't seen models. Yep, right Now that I've seen the models It's time to start putting together a theme something cool a cool angle to actually uh To actually have here, you know, you should do a storm cast themed giant army Well, you know, the one of the things that occurred to me was it would be neat to do a dnd giant army Right to actually so instead of them being normal flesh colored have the leader be a storm giant have frost and cloud and fire Right and just actually shape them into the giants that I always That I grew up on sure right sure, but I'm not I'm not set on that yet. I I'm more than open to ideas. So Yep We'll see we'll see what it boils down to Uh, cool. All right any other final thoughts tom? um No, no, I'm I'm down for those canites. Put me up. Let's do this They can't wait to see the rest of that one. Hope everybody out there is staying safe Don't forget to give this a like hit that like button. There's a lot of people watching right now Hit that like do it press it press it right now Uh, no because it helps. I really do appreciate it. Uh, in this time It's nice people are always looking for stuff to watch and the more of you hit like the more easy it is For everybody to find the channel. So I do very much appreciate that um Yeah, so there you go. That's it folks. That's that's the reaction show. Uh, look forward. We'll be back on wednesday, obviously and uh We hope all of you enjoyed this. We hope all all of you out there are staying safe getting some good hobby on Spending time with your family and I I've been building so many armies. Yeah in so many boxes Tom's being productive. I am hey there you go. There's a future project that's happening right there Tom's been playing with all the bright colors. You got bright colored mushrooms. I can't wait to see you share that Uh, so at any rate, uh, thank you very much everybody for watching. We really really do appreciate it So as always, we will see you next wednesday