 We fight for your freedom to feel your emotions without having to have your manliness challenged, right? We fight for your freedom to express how you feel like you want to express yourself. Coming from the existentialist thought, ano ba yung purpose ng babay? Kaya yung mga tanong sa pageant, di ba? What is the essence of being a woman? I've been revisiting books of Simone de Bevo. I'm not really that into her, in terms of philosophical thoughts niya. But I'm with yung partner niya, si John Paul Sart, more on the existentialism. She's a no-sart's-partner pala. Do nag-evolve yung thoughts niya about sa feminism. Nung binabasa ko kasi yung mga accounts ng feminism. It's about how women can surpass men kung magamay mga iba't ibang classifications ng feminism. And a lot of it is about kung pa paano magiging pantay yung man and woman. Dun sa thoughts ni Simone de Bevo, rooting from existentialism. Because the opposite of existentialism is essentialism. For the longest time, we believe that humans have essence. So for example, itong baso. Ang essence ng baso is para saluhin yung tubig na to. Pagbutas to, or kapag hindi siya mukhang baso, technically. Or if it can't hold the water. Hindi siya baso. So yun yung essence ng baso. But different case sa human beings. Philosophers and theologians, they have this kind of belief na meron tayong essence as a human being. So for Christians and other religious people, the essence of a human being is to serve God. But some people don't agree with that. Dito na papasok si Sart. Well, rooting back kasi siya from the thoughts of Soren Kierkegaard, his Danish philosopher and a theologian. I love theologians, by the way. Ha, talaga. Yeah, I love how they study that. But esig ay gone. Ah, ah, ah. Si Soren Kierkegaard, he's considered as the father of existentialism. Okay. Napakawir, di ba? He's one of those philosophers na kahit na Christian siya, he believed yung existence natin precedes essence. Well, that quote is from Sart. Sa kanyong nanggaling yung thought na, we don't necessarily have that kind of purpose. We make our own purpose in life. Despite being a Christian, that's what he said. Yeah, so medyo nabas siya ng mga Danish priest before. Right, right. Talagang minamak siya ganon. And remember, that's what I said to you also before, another one of our conversations. Sa parang, I have a lot of respect, not necessarily more or better respect. But I have a lot of respect for religious or spiritual or faithful people who are able to question their faith and beliefs. It's not necessarily like a toxic thing, but like you're able to, or you're willing to look at the other side and open your mind and still decide that you know this is the belief for me. So it's pretty cool that he did that. Well, I don't know, to each his own, I guess, but it's there, I have respect for people. Like I'm talking about the recorded history, itong mga 1700s to 1800s, yan yung time ng ano na, papunta na ng age of reason kung tavagin, or age of enlightenment. So dun na nagaharol ng power yung scientific discoveries and nagaharol na nang parang slight revolution yung mga tao, before religious people yung nag-handel ng mga beliefs. Right, right. It was so rigid kasi before it. So that's when feminism was born? Meron ng earlier accounts ng 1700s tama. 16, actually. Going back to that kind of existentialist thought na inadap ni Simone, dun niya na isip na isulat yung the second sex na book. Yeah, you tell me about this. Papasimplihin ko nalang. Ang argument dun is the goal of feminism is not to be at par to men. So more like ibang sex kasi yung women. What she's saying is you have to compare apples to apples and comparing men to women is like comparing apples to oranges. Kinda. Malawak yun but it's one of the arguments. Basically that's one of the, okay. Yan yung isa sa mga gist. And that's why she calls it the second sex is because if you're, okay, get it, get it. Yeah, yeah. So dahil nga yun nga coming from the existentialist thought, ano ba yung purpose ng babae? Kaya yung mga tanong sa pageant, what is the essence of being a woman? So pageant na tatamaan yun sa existentialist thought. Ano abang sabi ng babae? Okay. That question now after this conversation has changed for me. Because I remember when I first heard it, I was like, what does this mean? I don't understand that. So ibig sabi nga yung nga nga kakaanak, hindi ka babae? Ganun ba yun? So yung yung kinakontra ni Simone de Bebo. Uh-uh. True, true. So parang, as a woman, you have the freedom to make your own path in life. You have to make your own essence. So rooting siya sa existentialist. And that's what I believe in kasi so since this is the feminism tayo today diba. And I remember kanina outside when you were talking about it, you were just like, so for this episode, do you want to do like the different kinds of feminism? Right? Is that what you were saying? Yung ba yun? And then I said, we can also talk about what is feminism for us, like personal. Kasi I guess if you're looking for like the root of things, that's where the root of the different kinds of feminism would come from. Kasi diba, if there are different kinds of feminism, then they would have come from what feminism means to whoever person that started that kind of feminism. Jumping off of Simone de Beauvoir. You're free to choose your own essence. That's what feminism is to me. Like there are some people who, like for example, men. Some men not all, okay. Some men would be like, well, you know, you're a feminist, right? Don't you want to be like strong independent and all these things, blah, blah, blah, like, open your own door or you want to get on the road, like drive yourself to work, blah, blah, blah, build your own roads. So like, it's not the point of feminism, at least for me. The point of feminism for me is that you're free to choose. I didn't even know that Simone de Beauvoir said that. I relate to that even more now. You're free to choose your own path. So if you want to be a stay-at-home mom, not work, you want to raise your kids, if you feel like that's your purpose to be a mother, go. If you feel like your purpose is to be like a CEO of a company without children, do that. Do what makes you happy because there are also women na mandero on the flip side who are just like they would look down on women who would be like, that's all you want to do? Don't you want to achieve things in life? Like, why are you making them feel bad about the things that makes them happy? So that's feminism to me is the ability to, the freedom, not the ability, we all have the ability to choose, but the freedom to follow that path that we've chosen without expectations from other people. Let's say that I want to live a childless life. Let's say lang. I want to be able to live that without the pressure or expectation to have kids because I'm a woman. Or let's say I want to have a big family and I want to stay home and raise them by myself. These are like very polar examples. Very black and white, right? But let's just use that for the sake of this argument. So I want to be a wife, stay at home mom. I feel like that's my purpose. I don't want other women umandan to say na, is that all you want? Like the pressure to be more than that? Like what if that is my more? Yeah. Dabba? Minyan kasi sa loob din ang, I mean like, meron ng ano eh, meron ng polarizing differences from men and women. Ta sa loob pa mismo ng mga kababaihan, meron pa- May ganon. Ha, oh. Like it is normal. It is normal and even with men, deba that happens din. Oh speaking of that, like one of the things that I said also earlier is deba what feminism means to you and also I want that, I want to delve into what, or like how feminism helps everyone. It's not just for women. It was probably called feminism because that's how it started. Yeah, oh. You know what I mean? Like it is for the betterment of women. Yeah, yeah. But like things evolve. Things don't stay the same way. When did feminism start? If I have to be accurate, mula kasi yung notes ko, but I'm trying to say. Good. Like, sigo mga ano, late 1600s to 1700s, bagang ganon. Matagal na yan. Earlier hounds, so. Matagal na yan deba. 1600s man, that's been a long time. We can't expect feminism to remain the same what it is, what its essence is, right? Before, the essence of feminism was to raise women up because we were really second-class citizens. Yeah. Daba na parang you're not even allowed to own anything. I watched Little Women last night. Have you seen that thing? Ah, you should. It's nice. There's an old one before and then with Winona Ryder they did a remake. Anyway. So there's a part there where Florence Pugh's character talks about what it's like being a woman and in the context of marriage. Like marriage is an economic proposition for the woman because you can't own anything. If you earn money, that's not even your money. That's your husband's money. If you have children, it's not your children. They're your husband's children. Paranganon. So the purpose and the use of feminism back then when it was born was to help raise women up from that to show the world that yo, we're human. We should have the same rights as other humans, as other men humans. And now that we've understood that, things are different now. Women are allowed to own, to vote and all these things, right? So we can't keep that essence in the same way na we need to raise women are still oppressed, yes? But it's evolved to include other things already. It's not just that. For the longest time din kasi kaya naging patriarchy rin yung not that it's theologians and philosophers fault pero they based din kasi sa biological differences before ng mga tao. Mga account din doon yung strengths ng differences ng strengths ng babaayot lalaki and dadagdagan pa natin like Abrahamic religions. Christianity, Islam. Ma strepsil sa kong gusto mo. Kong gusto ko. It's my favorite flavor. I don't want to sound like I'm blaming na sabi ko lang yung historical background and I'm glad that's evolving. Except for pre-colonial Philippines actually, patriarchal tayo. Kasama din kasi doon yung figurative representation of Adam and Eve na doon yung notion na dapat ang men ang magpaprotekta sa women. Which is good. Kahit naman kahit naman in-entertain ko yung thought ng feminism. May ganun na hong thinking. That's okay. Yeah. To want to protect someone you love is normal and it's I don't feel like it's because of like man or woman. Like I want to protect my boyfriend. Yeah. Diba? And I won't hold it against him if he feels like he wants to protect me. Isagin yung bakit sinulot ni Simone de Beau yung the second sex kasi philosophy graduate din siya sa France. Nakita niya yung accounts ng mga philosophers na pagang laging male centric. Laging in-account as man. Every man is gento. Ganyan. Bakit tulang woman? I know I think we can't blame our society for falling into gender roles because it's something that we are used to. I'm not saying it's something to be condoned. I'm also I'm not saying that parang okay lang yan gayin talaga yan. I'm just saying that as a factually this is just something that we're used to. That's why we have gender roles because we got used to women doing this and men doing that. And according to Jordan Peterson which you were surprised that I listened to and we'll get into that in just a bit because it's perfect anusa feminism atopic natin today. Menjo nene as people would think. According to Jordan Peterson the reason why men there are more men in let's say engineering and more women in nursing is because of how differently our brains are wired. That why did you hit your wife? Wait lang. Bako kayo maggalit. No, bash ka. Da lang lang. This is just what I'm not saying that this is fact. I'm just saying that this is what he said and it was an interesting side note. This is why I'm saying this because I like listening to other people. Ya, me too. Daba. And I like listening to what they're saying. I'll be like okay why does he think this way? Doesn't automatically mean I'm gonna take it as fact. Let's say what Jordan Peterson said was fact. Let's say lang. Men are more preconceived. No, no, no. That's preconceived. It's not the word. It's more. Masari. Yes, ma. Nagaligo pala. For men and women, women are more likely to care about people and men are more likely to care about things. So this is not a generalization that men only care about things and women are the ones who care for people. It's just a more likely. It's a statistical statement. You know what I mean? Just so happens. We're not saying that this is what they're supposed to do and it's a general thing. You have to stick to it. When it comes to gender roles, we still stick to. I think it's just because of that. Like the reason why men are more likely to be engineers or that's why there are more men in engineering is because that's just what they're interested in. And women, although there are women who are like that, many intelligent, amazing, powerful women who do go into engineering and succeed and all these things. They belong there obviously. It just so happens that there are more women who want to care for people. They have that instinct to care for people. That's why more women are in nursing. So I'm not justifying. It's just me stating it factually. And I feel like that's what Jordan Peterson does also. I'm not saying like, oh my god, I'm such a fan but I listen to him. I listen to what he has to say. Without judging him. I don't actively go out and search Jordan Peterson, yun na ito ganyang. Yung familiarity ko kaya Jordan Peterson is not like, you know, how other guys would think na pagang naki ko siyang pinapanan. It's not like that. Pero nakilala ko siya nung nagkakonsilan ng debate ni Slavoj Cizek. He's a Slovenian philosopher. I don't know who he is but okay, go. He's psychologist din kasi siya na. Si Jordan Peterson. Pwemot ay no. I know he's a professor. The bird. Professor and... Dr. Jordan, he's playing like that. Yeah. So I think yung basis kasi nung sinasabi niya about roles is rooting back to evolutionary psychology. Kaya siya may ganong stand is because rooting yun dun sa time na yung mga lalaki or yung mga hunters kami dao yung nasa field ng gahan for our food, sa family's food and yung mga babay naman dao yung mga... The ones who stayed to take care of. Yeah, to take care of. I, I... Parang, that's what I mean with Jordan Peterson when he says these things. He's not saying it because he wants to keep women in their place as a lot of people are are misconstruing his intentions. I feel ha. He's just saying it as like it's again, it's a statistical statement. He's just saying, well, these are the statistics. Did you know that ball pythons who are bred in captivity? For example, my snake, Percy. Ball pythons who are bred in captivity when they are scared, they curl up into a ball and hide their heads. And they also like to climb. So they're above ground. They, they are in a safe space, especially when it's raining. Especially, and they, they borrow as well. These, this is the nature of the snake, right? And they know this. This is what they do in the wild. But why does Percy still do that? He's never been in the wild because it's something, it's like an evolutionary sort of echo. This is something that all ball pythons have done for a long time. And it's something that is already in their brain. So when it comes to women having, or like they're, they're being more women in people jobs or healthcare jobs and things like that. And then they're being more men in jobs like, again, engineering or construction. It's not because that's where they belong. Like I said, it's just that's what we got. Used to. Yes. Doesn't mean we can't change. It doesn't mean women don't belong in engineering. Like I said, it doesn't mean men don't belong in nursing. It's just, that's just what we got used to. Yes. It's something that is in nete. For example, yun nga going back to dun sa evolutionary wireings ng male and female. Yeah. Fim, ba wal ba sabay nyo female? Dadyok lang. So pa yun, I don't, that's something that doesn't matter to me but. Yeah, yeah. I know. Minibirun na kita. I know. I'm just showing people na hindi it's okay for you to tell the word female. Yeah. So um. What about you? For males? For males? Walang nakataw lang. Ang naisip ko kalaga CR. Kasi male. Female. I'll, ako din. Anyway yun, yung um, hindi naman kasi siya like yun lang yung limitations ng girl. It's more like dun nage excel yung women based on biological. Yeah. Ah, evolutionary. And statistically, it's just, it doesn't mean men cannot do it. It's just, statistically, there happens to be more women who are in jobs where they need to care for people. That's it. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I, I just have to correct myself no kasi parang pag sinabi kong dun sila nage excel. It's not that I'm limiting them to that kind of job. Gagamiti natin argument ng evolution. I, I need to jump this in before we lose a trip. Mabilis tayo mag-isip eh. Um, you're, when you said, you're not saying that that's the only thing that they're good at. Right? So side note, jumping off that, I have a friend who is a musician. Okay. And he was talking about like parang I need to forget the exact conversation, but he said, he needed to really become good or like get more gigs or he needs to concentrate on his music because it's the only thing he's good at. He said, because he's a musician. It's the only thing I'm good at eh. And he didn't say that as like a, you know, he's crapping on himself kind of thing. It's the only thing I'm good at. He just said it like matter of fact. He's like, what, it's the only thing I'm good at eh. Nahi, nahi. And I said, I'm probably joking yos na nating. Uh oh. And I said, no, no, no, no, no. Don't use that wording. It's not the only thing you're good at. It's what you're best at. Because you can do many things. You're good at many things. But music is what you're best at. That's it. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yun ninya yung evolution. Kasi yung mga women before, sila yung nangnature sa mga bata sa sanggol. Yes. So mas intuitive sila. So yun yung sinasabi nating their best at that. Kaya kong mapapansin mo, pag gunagay, pag umiak yung sanggol, ang unang nakakaalam ng needs ng sanggol is yung nani. Kaya ay dan yung tatay. It's more of an evolutionality. Correct. And I feel like a lot of people get, it's in our nature. They get offended when people say that, na parang it's in the woman's nature to know this and all these things. Because it's like, okay, what if there's a woman who's not innately mothering? So that's, does that mean it goes against the nature? It's not that. It's in the same sense that there are men who are not innately hunters. Ya, oh. Diba? Parang... Ako, tiga mo naman yung fisiko. I've been here most of the last time. I've been here most of the last time. Oh. But like... Bapak nagsantungan tayo, matalam mo pa ako. But like... Duto, ayon. But that's what I'm saying is like, going back to like feminism, right? I feel, to me, feminism is, it helps so many other... What do you call this? It is beneficial across the board. Okay. Is what I'm saying. Feminism, for me, is beneficial across the board because when women or females, because feminism are elevated to match the same opportunities and rights as men, then that means the same goes for men also in that sense. It becomes all equal. So my example earlier about how feminism helps men is it battles toxic masculinity, right? So when you think about it, feminists don't only just fight for women, we fight for you guys too. We fight for your freedom to feel your emotions without having to have your manliness challenged, right? We fight for your freedom to express how you feel like you want to express yourself in dress, in painting your nails, in dyeing your hair, in getting a piercing. That's under feminism also, right? And even, and I'm going to put a trigger warning here for people who, I'm going to talk about something very sensitive, feminism also covers the defense of men who are sexually taken advantage of, who have become victims of number one domestic abuse. There are so many men out there who are victims of not just domestic abuse, but sexual abuse at the hands of women and men also. And not to mention the children, the boys and the girls, when female students are taken advantage of by their male professors, right? People freak out that man should be sent to jail and not this, but when young male students are taken advantage of by older female teachers, what is the response? You have men in the comment section going, wow, she's hot, lucky guy, wish thou were me. And this kid is probably traumatized, right? What's wrong with me? This kid's probably traumatized. And seeing this kind of reaction to that kind of news, it makes it will tend to make men afraid to speak up about their own abuse because the response to that is always man up, suck it up, be a man. She's a gorgeous woman. Any man would love to be in your position, blah, blah, blah. It's very dismissive. Feminism fights for the importance of male trauma also. But you know what I love about that also is you are not afraid to ask. You ask me stuff all the time. That's what I feel like something that maybe needs to be adjusted because we are so trigger happy when it comes to our righteous anger. Of course, we've been oppressed for such a long time. It's solely understandable. But I just, personally, I feel like people who don't know any better would be more open to asking and learning if they weren't made to feel like they're stepping on eggshells all the time. Whoever's watching, comment, comment lang jan. Yes. If you have any thoughts or whatever. About feminism. Hmm. Yeah.