 6.15 on the memorial day. And can I interrupt? Since we are on film, I would like to thank all the veterans and service people that served from the town of Rochester. Thank you for your service. And do we have any military veterans here in the room? Please stand up so we can say thank you. Harlan? Just a few. Just me. I'm standing. Thank you for your service. That and that. Also to my big brother Bob Dellinger, thank you for your service. He was there this afternoon. I was going to say he was cold in the blood I think. We had a site problem with the flag. Yes. But it is now there. It was a technical malfunction on that. Alright, alright. So this meeting has been posted in three places on the website and emailed to interested parties. So we can move forward legally to open meeting. And do we have any additions to the agenda from the public tonight? I don't have any. So I think we'll just move on with the agenda as print presented. And we've got the minutes from the last meeting at May 14th. And they looked like they were. I just read them. Yeah, pretty good to me. So I move we accept the minutes as typed up. All in favor. All right. All right. We've got that out of place. Any guests here? Nancy, did you have anything pressing to talk about? And no, I think this might be a quick meeting. So we're going to move on to the departmental reports. And I have, Joan couldn't make it. So I have a list of her updates to be presented. And the Wing Farm Road culvert replacement, which will be a bridge with the White River Valley. White River Partnership was awarded to Harveys and we're working on preparing the contract now. Hey, it looks like we've got some people moving in. So maybe we'll have some more excitement at the meeting. No. Oh, geez. I'm half of them here. All right. Welcome to the Memorial Day meeting. And we're started at 617. Patty gave a nice thank you to the veterans in the room and on film. And it's been properly worn. We've accepted the meetings of the May 14th meeting and we have verified that this has been properly worn and no one made any additions to the agenda. And we're moving on to Joan's updates, which were Wing Farm Road culvert replacement, which will be a bridge, has been awarded to the Harveys. And the contract preparation is next. Welcome. And we've got the new Class II Municipal Road grant. I'm going to pass the cricket to help prepare a big notice for that. And I'm giving the technical aspects, which will be similar to West Hill Road. We have been talking to the US Forest Service about the next cooperative road agreement for priority culvert replacements. And the tour and presentation with Richard Amor from VACCD regarding the village district designation is set for June 5th. Business owners in the district have been invited from a list that I provided. And Joan won't be there due to a previous obligation. But she's going to be working with two rivers on a Quiche Regional Commission staff afterwards to start the application for the downtown village redesignation. And we're also going to talk with Richard about suggested ways to fund sidewalk improvements. Excuse me, Joan, where's he from? He's a representative of something. VACCD. I would guess that the V stands for Vermont. Right. VACCD could be the agency of community development. Something development. Yeah. We could look into that if you want to know that specifically. This is about the downtown village designation, which lapsed because of new requirements in the town plan, which we have addressed and updated the town plan to satisfy. And now we can reapply for downtown village designation. We still have no word from VTrans on the structures grant request on the Buffa Mountain Road culvert design. The grant in aid for 219, 2019 letter of intent has been submitted. And the parameters for this were described at the last meeting in the minutes. And there is a reminder that the sidewalk tour and discussion with John Kaplan of VTrans and the bike and pedestrian program will be this next Wednesday at 8 a.m. We'll be touring through the town to discuss the options for dealing with the sidewalk. The day after tomorrow. The day after tomorrow, exactly. And we did have folks from the stormwater runoff come to tour through the town last week and looking at the stormwater runoff issues, which goes hand in hand with the sidewalk repair because a lot of any kind of curbing improvement is going to help to direct water and control that. So there are a lot of factors seeming to be focusing on the issue of the sidewalk. So it's hopeful that we will get some funding and some improvements on that. So that's next step is Wednesday morning at 8, talking with John Kaplan and walking around town. Looking at that. So that's what Joan had for us. Nobody is here from the library or the constables department. And the highway is no plowing of snow. How has he rode? Did they get out and grade it yet? Come on. They got started. I mean, there must be some other road they can do before they can get to me, right? They don't want to be pushy. No, they have long story short. And as long as we're on the subject, why does it always have to get dragged on? To the point where like some of the roads when they're being graded are so dry that nothing's happening. I mean the blades just going along, picking up the loose stuff on the top, pushing it into the holes. And then three cars go by. The potholes are back. Why isn't it, can't it be done when the roads are still a little bit moist? So you can cut the potholes up. That is optimal. I mean, it used to be done like that. And the whole town used to be done in about a week. It's too late to do it now. Well, yeah, that's it. You need rain. You know, I mean, it's every year it's like that. It's a challenge working around the weather. I thought we were coming up with a remedy for that this spring here. Apparently not. There's also going to be some pretty specific specifications about how to grade a road coming at us from the stormwater runoff. That there's going to be certain degrees and no little burns in the ditches. It's going to take longer to grade roads going forward. Well, it just abases me. Do you guys do the retaining ditches as you grade the roads or is that a supplementary? The ditching is a separate front. It used to be done with a grader. You can't do it with a grader. Yeah, they changed the tools. We're talking specific degrees of angles. It's going to be pretty much all half pipes now. Yeah, with the grader you could ditch it, but it would give a sharp edge in the ditch. Now they're very specific about the radius of the curve in the ditch. My experience has been, past when I was delivering the mail, it seems like within the last 8, 10 years when they ditch, they get such a ditch that if you do get into it, you're not going to get out of it. And it used to be, if you got into a ditch, you could kind of get out. The ditches now will swallow our car. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, it's happened. I mean, is that? We've helped people get out of them. Is that a standard procedure? I mean, is that? It's come out from the state. I mean, Jesus. So every road has to be ditched? Well, depends on the aspect. If it has to be ditched, it has to be ditched in a specific way. We can't do it the old easy way anymore. It's more complex. Not fun for us either. It takes more time. Yes. Well, you have to use an excavator most of the time. You can't use a grater. So you've got to rent an excavator. Yeah, it leads to more ditching about ditching. May I quote you? That's good. I like that. So, Terry's not here. We've got some new business. We have, speaking of ditching, we have some ditching bids. All right. The town library of ditching bids. Yeah. We're going to go sit over there. Yeah. From Excavate, which is why Patty is now sitting over there, because that's part of the family deal. Ditching by the foot. $2.11 per foot for ditching. And the culvert installation provided culverts. That's $750 a piece, which would be $1,500 for that. It's got the insurance. Also from Harvey's Plumbing and Excavating. And their price is $3 per linear foot. And culvert replacement. We're looking at the first one at $1,858. And the second one at $22.76. So it looks to me that Excavate is the winning bid in this situation here. So, Marvel. What was the total? Was that $1,500? Did I get that correct? Excavate was $1,500 for the culverts and $2.11 per linear foot for ditching. Your foot for ditching? Okay. Thank you. So, thank you. And that's on Townline Road. Okay, $2 for a linear foot, I'm sorry. $2.11. Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry. I just want to make sure I get it right. Is that the distance of Townline Road? You can get out of these ditches. Every ditch on here. I'll tell you what to follow. This is Grandville. The stuff I'm talking about. And I get done with it. So, I don't have an answer for how many linear feet there is. It's not the entire road. It's not the entire sling. I mean, you could, if you know the sling. And we have three applications for use of the park. So, Patty, you can come back if you want. So, we've got one for the 4th of July parade in celebration. And I believe 4th of July. Yep. And I would move to approve. Second. All in favor? Aye. All right. And we have another one from the White River Valley players for September 8th. The dip for Isopro, that's the hardest pair. It doesn't say the harvest fair on here anywhere, but I think that's what it is. Yeah. It's from Gidibone. Yeah. Yeah. That's for the hardest pair. Yeah. It's been going for a while. There are 30, 31 years? 30th year. 30th year. 30th year. 30th year. So, I'd move. We approve this. Second. All in favor? Aye. And the third is from the Pierce Hall Community Center. And this is for the annual ice cream social with games and flea market and tables and probably antique cars. Possibly antique cars. And that is for Sunday, July 1st. And that's coming up. And I would move to approve this application of the park. All in favor? Aye. All right. The gentleman's applications. And we've got the ditching bags. And there you have it. What do you have? Are you on an old business? We're on an old business. Do you have something you'd like to bring up? I'd just like to know where we stand with Louis getting together with on the bandstand. Hope that we would have it in this year's budget. We are getting pretty close. He said he was going to look at it. Did he look at it? I don't know. I think he was going to look at it. I have no idea whether he has it. So we would be looking out towards Jerry for that response, wouldn't we? All right. But it would be nice to get it into this year's budget. Yeah, it would. So this is for redoing the lighting? We'll be lighting it on the downside. We'll touch base on it. I think he'll check it out a week ago. Yeah. So. Old business. I had a discussion with Lieutenant Robert Gialetto, who is a DOT agent. And he does say that the Department of Transportation would lend scales to the town of Rochester on an annual basis. All we have to do is document when we use them and what our findings were when we used them. So when you say annual basis, do you mean we could hold on to it for a year? For a year. Well, that sounds pretty interesting. So I'm going to put him in touch with Mark about moving forward on that. Yeah, I think that's a really good idea. Did he say what the rent was? It's free. Yeah. So I'm sorry, I don't quite remember why we're getting scales. Two-way trucks. Oh, okay. And we have sent Mark to training to be able to utilize our scales. So this is. This is first visit. They've been going all the way down. Yes. They think it was a huge truck right at the end of the parade today. Oh, yeah. It came over and went north. Yep. He could barely make the corner at the skit mark. Interesting. All right. So thank you for digging that up. It's in for me. I think that's it. You guys have many. Oh, Marlon, you have something. No, I'm fine. Bro, bro. No, just lawyers doing that thing, you know, digging for information. The new on the school property. No, what's that? It was in the Herald. We have heard that the students have agreed to turn over the property to the town. We expect that they will. Perhaps they might be here tonight. I went to the media last Friday. This past Friday, I was telling Patty for the meeting. Tony Goopy did with some high school students. Right. Not a big turnout, but the ones that were there were really passionate about it. And they did end up voting to, you know, deed it back to the, deed it to the town. One of the girls was very worried that there might be, the town might build a housing development there. But Travis needed pointed out to her that that would be kind of silly considering where it was. So anyway. So what's, what are you going to do with it? Well, how's it going? Of course it's different than what's there right now. We told you, all right. We told you, all right. We're going to some housing. Yeah. Named after you. That's why I'm here. That's why I'm here. And we have an offer on it. If someone wants to buy it. I just, I mean, anybody given that any thought or anything, or are we going to wait until the 25th hour? Well, the town, do you still want it anyway? I think that it probably sit as a section of town forest. We haven't like talked to any loggers or anything. I think we'll probably go out there and inspect it. But I don't think we're talking about selling it or developing it. So this will be kept as a asset. Yeah. Right. Right. I just, just want to, that's all. The students were worried about that. Yeah. Nice. I mean, they asked me, I don't know why they asked me, but they did. And I said, well, I can't speak. This is like words. My feeling is they probably want to keep it the way it conditions. Yeah. That's my thought. Yeah. Yeah. Currently, there's no. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I have a request for the select board to ask the lady that does the procurements for the town to start the process. The select board system? Yes. To start the process for the application for the funding or whatever it takes to start the process for a new bridge on West Hill. It's not going to last forever and this may take years. So unless we put the applications into the state for the use of the excise tax that comes from the federal government may not happen in my lifetime. It's open. I did talk to the Forest Service and previously when I spoke to them a year or two ago, they thought that they might be doing the bridge and then looking for a little funding from the state and the town. But apparently the funding for the Forest Service is different now. They have to bid on everything, but they used to have a budget for infrastructure for access to forestry land. They don't do that anymore. But they will find funds for the town and their budget to make up differences. So it's connected with the Robinson Project and the plan to go harvesting up there which would require a bridge. Because apparently the Forest Service does have a temporary bridge that they could put in there. What they'd have to put in all the infrastructure to hold it across the men's land at the bottom and then take it down. I don't know how expensive that is for a logger. I have no idea. So I think the logging is going to be on hold for a while, but until we figure out what to do. Well it's definitely something we keep bringing up and we'll continue to. I had talked to the lady and she said she needed your blessings. I can take a lead on that. I'll talk to Jill. That sooner or later that's going to have to happen. Anybody else have anything they want to contribute to the meeting tonight? We've got dinner waiting. So I think that's it. Thank you for coming out on the morning of the evening. It's always fun. It would be Monday night. I wake up in the morning and I go...