 What's good Josh Roy Ross back again with another video, so we're gonna check out 11 precise moments wrestling fans turned on baby faces, man It is it's crazy how things play out in wrestling. There'll be a moment where The baby faces supposed to get cheered supposed to you know, you know The fans are supposed to be behind this person and it'll just be either they were Overpushed or it was just a situation that didn't make sense to the point where it kind of just ruined that person's character And then people were just like, you know what we can't root for this person anymore we we can't we can't cheer for this person anymore and We've definitely seen that a few times especially in WWE where someone would just get Booked or did they just get shoved on our throats with the booking to the point where it's like, you know what? We don't like this character. We're gonna boo them. No matter how many times you tell us we should cheer them We're gonna boo them because you clearly don't know what we want or sometimes us fans We don't know what we want. So we're gonna check this out. Appreciate all the love and support No, they say that baby faces are harder to book than heels You know, they say that baby faces are harder to book than heels while it is much easier in decades past when wrestling fans Were just happy to cheer the goodies and boo the baddies the late 90s saw a shift and cool heels took over the business And with the rise of social media post 2011 and to an extent forum posting in the mid 2000s shout out to the smart marks forum, which was my home ground for bitching about wrestling in 2005 fans are now more than happy to just let whatever company know that we think their baby face creative is utter shite And in some of those cases it ruined baby face runs I'm Luke Owen hailing from parts unknown and these are 11 precise moments that wrestling fans turned on baby faces number 11 Roman Reigns WWE Royal Rumble 2015 It's pretty hard to believe nowadays in an era when he can get away with his San Martino Esk championship run and an entrance that lasts longer than most prime minister's careers But people really didn't like Roman Reigns for a while Most of the animosity towards Reigns can be chalked up to his superhero level booking and a fundamental Misunderstanding of what makes a person likeable the 2015 Royal Rumble is where things really started to turn south for the big tribal dog Chief he was popular in 2014 He won the slammy for superstar of the year on a fan vote. We all wanted him to win the 2014 Rumble But oh what a difference a year makes shortly after his legendary Championship victory at the previous year's WrestleMania Daniel Bryan was forced to vacate the title due to injury after eight months of Speculation as to whether or not he would return to the ring Brian announced in January 2015 that he was cleared to return Just in time for the rum once that was announced. It was over people only wanted one thing and That was for Daniel Bryan to win. I'm just be honest with you Only because his title reign was cut short because of injury people wanted to see that. That's it That's literally what it was. It was nothing else other than when Daniel Bryan comes back We want him back in the titles seeing opportunity because we didn't get that run that we always really wanted We got the journey to the run, but we didn't get the title run. We always wanted and There was an it Roman wasn't gonna be the guy And nobody else is gonna be the guy other than Daniel Bryan at that moment learning from that mistake the previous year More on that later WWE put Brian in the match only to have him eliminated early the crowd Immediately turned on the remaining partisans and directed most of their ire towards eventual winner Roman Reigns Not even a run-in from the rock who raised Reigns his arm in victory could save this crowd who continued booing as a confused rock Presumably wondered how and why his cousin had managed to fumble the family legacy so badly number 10 live Morgan WWE SummerSlam 2022 wrestling fans are a fickle bunch Please let our favorites win papa. They say begging bowls in hand will be ever so appreciative and never ask for anything again Okay, the promotion replies but you'd better not immediately turn on them the second They win gold and go right back to complaining all the time perish the thought they say grubby little fingers crossed behind their treacherous Little backs wouldn't even dream of it governor So after years of asking for lift more could to be given a chance with the gold WWE pulled the trigger at money in the bank 2022 when Morgan won the show's titular ladder match before Cashing in a briefcase on SmackDown women's champion Ronda Rousey to begin her burst rain with the big one a series of Uninspiring matches and some so-so character work so fans begin to grow Restless of Liv Morgan almost immediately until later that month at SummerSlam She faced Ronda Rousey in a rematch for the title Rousey dominated for the majority of the match before Morgan scored a lucky Pin by rolling Rousey onto her back during an armbar worse than that There did the old tap-out spots while getting the pin finished meaning in everyone's eyes except the referees liv Had just lost it was a bit of catch 22 booking from triplet. Yeah It was one of those things where it's like she kind of technically lost she won but she lost So not only did it not help her momentum If you're watching this as a fan it was like, well She really didn't win that you know what I'm saying So it's like are we supposed to cheer for her still? But as he struggled to deal with the narrative remnants of the Vince era by trying to keep Rousey strong While not immediately cutting Morgan's first run short But the crowd was already long gone enthusiastically booing Morgan during an oh shucks I tried my best promo on the following week SmackDown number nine semi-givara and tay mellow And here's the thing about that whole situation. There were a lot of people wanting Liv Morgan to be the champ. All right, cool whatever I think her winning the money in the bank. I don't have a problem with the cash in so soon That's where It was a rest of people's disaster. I think they should have built up to it I think they should have teased it more Have people really get that fever pitch like we can't wait for Liv Morgan to cash in Wait for the opportune moment and then cash in because ultimately They put the belt on her as soon as she got the the briefcase that same night and it was like It was a cool moment But I think it would have been better earned if people have to wait for just a little bit more And then you go and pull the trigger now granted I don't know how the booking would have went after that who knows But I think waiting could have possibly helped just a little bit in my opinion AEW Dynamite March 23rd 2022 You'd think wrestling promoters would have learned by now wrestling fans are not interested in romance Well, unless you go by WWE's youtube numbers, but those people are weird. We don't need love We have stats and memorabilia and trivia about one night stand 2005 Did you know that jbl shot punched the blue meanie for real z's fans were already predisposed to not react well to Sammy gavara and tei content's relationship as it came not long after gavara very publicly proposed to his previous girlfriend At an AEW dynamite taping just a few months earlier. Honestly, that's nobody's business But there's but you try telling wrestling fans to stay out of wrestlers personal lives Sammy and tei came out on march 23rd edition of AEW dynamite to deliver a promo about gavara's recent loss of the tnt title to Scorpio Sky This promoted skies manager Dan Lambert to come out a brag about the win kissing the belt as he did And as he kisses gavara and conty revealed that they had slept together while wearing that belt A fact conty later backed up with photographic evidence on twitter It was an obnoxious bit of promo work from two people There were already on thin ice to begin with and started tei and sammy on the path to fully fledged hildon number eight naito power struggle 2013 in 2030 tei tei naito was being pushed as new japan's next big thing He just won the g1 climax and was on his way to main eventing wrestle kingdom new japan's biggest show of the year Against kazuchika rikada one of its biggest stars However, fan reaction to naito was underwhelming to say the least and there were worries that putting him in the top spot of The flagship event would undermine the show at that year's power struggle pay view in which naito defended his never open weight championship And wrestle kingdom contract against masato tanaka the crowd were completely Heatless for what should have been a major bout but when naito emerged after the main event to stand face to face with akata You could legitimately hear a pin drop in the room and that is not hyperbolic It was deadly Silent the total lack of interest in clear push against naito caused new japan to worry And rethink the direction of naito's character This led to new japan holding a fan vote for whether it would go ahead with the planned main event of Naito versus akata or switch it with the planned semi main event of shinsuke nakamura versus hiroshi tanahashi When the results were announced Naito and akata had gotten only half of the votes nakamura and tanahashi had gotten thus losing their main event spot Sticks and stones can break my bones, but silence can kill a push dead Number seven ronda rousey wwe survivor series 2018 This is our first example of fans turning on a wrestler due to their support of another wrestler Who wasn't even there that day in 2018? Becky lynch was on a hot streak wing crown support despite wwe's constant attempts to turn their heel You all hate me. Becky would say it her promos to rapturous praise from the crowd You were never there for me She'd argue as everyone chanted her name at that year's survivor series lynch was supposed to face ronda rousey and a champion versus champion match but was accidentally given a legit concussion from nighjacks Just a few days before charlotte flair replaced lynch and to be fair the two had a pretty fantastic little match However, it ended in disqualification as flair hit rousey with a kendo stick and proceeded to administer a brutal And very heelish post match beatdown despite this the fans cheered flair on presumably seeing charlotte as somehow the Instrument of lynch's will taking down the coronator top women star to make place for the ascendancy of the man Number six low rock w which was a crazy situation How charlotte was getting cheered for beating the living crap out of ronda rousey Because at that point it was really just becky lynch is the person we want in this spot Charlotte's just a surrogate for becky lynch at this point once again. It's crazy fans can be fickle, but We know who we want to see and becky lynch was the person She was she was the person that even though wwe wanted us to hate her There was there was nothing they could do we weren't gonna hate her We wrestlemania x8 and also summer slam 2002 a rare instance of a match where the crowd turning on one of the performance Actually elevated it wrestlemania x8 saw rock and hogan two icons go tototo in an intergenerational dream match That we never actually thought we might get to see what wwe hadn't accounted on though Was that this wwf crowd was super happy to see hulk hogan back in a wwf ring Missing forms of the early 90s So no matter how many trucks he ran the rock over with this crowd cheered hogan like the conquering babyface And booed the rock mercilessly prompting the company to turn hogan immediately babyface the following night And it wouldn't be the only time in 2002 that the crowd turned on the dwayne one as summer slam 2002 Saw them cheer heal rock lesnar as he dissembled the rock like an errant dear carcass in the show's main event I'd say it was a bad year for the rock But 2002 was also the year of the scorpion king launching johnson's hollywood career and putting him on the path to becoming one of the most successful Film stars of all time. You know what they say a year in the professional life of dwayne the rock johnson is like pizza Even when it's bad. It's still pretty good. Number five Lisa ww raw april 18th 2005 Lisa versus trish strategist is one of the most iconic women's views in wrestling history And as part of the real reason women's wrestling enjoys the level of prestige it does today However, in 2005 the feud almost ended up being derailed thanks to pretty personal circumstances The wrestling fans decided was their business Lisa dated matt hardy for six years between 99 and 2005 Matt hardy and leader Situation that would soon be worked into a wrestling angle and one of the worst of booked wrestling returns of all time for matt hardy But that's another list for another day on the april 18th episode of raw trish strategist The heel in the feud came out to deliver a promo on the face leader later came out on crutches But no amount of sympathetic props will stop a crowd of early 2000s wrestling fans from hurling sexist abuse So that's exactly what they did trish tried her best to keep the segment on track by drawing back some of the heat on herself But the fans would not forgive leader wwe in one of their trademark classy moves would bring the edge leader relationship to television just a few weeks later Turning leader in the process number four kody rhodes aew revolution There was nothing they could do Once they got out. Oh, there was nothing they can do Boy, and then we're talking about wrestling back then in the 2000s era was way different Than what it is now. Hell media was way different. You could say a lot more back then just No No Fans let her have it and it was like, you know, we gotta roll with the punches here 2021 adrenaline In my soul turns out no one likes kody rhodes Believe it or not, people didn't turn on kody because of how annoying that meme is when people get the syllable count wrong Like I just did there. No, it's because he spent the final year of his aew run being booked like the lovechart of lex luger and john Sina and even then they'd probably tell him to tone the america stuff down in the lead up to revolution 2021 road to just come off the back of a weird gender revealed segment and a self-indulgent celebrity feud with schikito Neil so people were already starting to get a little tired of him while rose didn't receive the level of backlash He would for later stunts like that promo where he sold racism The face of the revolution ladder match was when things started to turn south for the former stardust Rhodes did that spot where a wrestler gets hurt and then hobbles to the back before Re-emerging to bravely soldier on and the crowd were not having any of it He took a canadian destroyer on the ladder and they still pelted roads with booze like he just announced He was defecting to wwe number three Bailey wwe extreme it is crazy how During his later, you know his end of his run in aew. He he wasn't Like fan wise they wanted him to turn heel. That's really what it was They wanted it was a john scene effect. They wanted him to turn heel. He didn't want to turn heel He stayed true to his character. He just didn't want to turn heel and he ended up leaving and Now people love People love him and can't wait for him to come back and wwe it's it's crazy how things work 2017 before she wanted to speak to everybody's manager Bailey was one of wrestling's most earnest baby faces entering each match to an ai generated Carly j reps and song and dressing like lisa frank threw up on her and it was Awesome and everyone loved bailey in nxt because she was the best. I loved her so much while bailey Sincerely did get her over with nxt fans the main roster crowd did not like the fact that she was a character that appealed to Children and weird men like me in their 30s. This came to a head at extreme rules 2017 when the hugger faced Alexa bliss in a Kendo stick on a pole match during the match bailey got the better of bliss standing over her with the kendo stick ready to strike Unfortunately bailey's instinct to be nice Overrode her desire to do the main thing that wrestlers are supposed to do You know win matches and she choked leaving bliss an opening to recover and ultimately win The booking made bailey look weak and naive to the point that she wasn't even sympathetic anymore No, the fans sure let her know that number two WWE on the cell 2019 I mean you all knew this one was coming, right? People like to point out that hell in the cell 2019 was the moment the fiend gimmick died and that is fair enough But people forget that there were two casualties in that main event lock box of hard knocks shocks and bollocks Seth Rollins reputation didn't come out of the cell unscathed It's not exactly Rollins' fault But his role in the match seemed like it was to make it as boring as possible First he hit a curb stomp and then another Then another Then another then another and another stomping and stomping in the feet kicked out of every single pinfall at one for a total of I s*** you not 11 curb stumps doesn't matter how many goods something is if you have 11 of them in the row You're going to get irritable apart from maybe quality street because I've just eaten 11 of them while writing this script And I haven't thrown up Yet Rollins then used a chair a ladder a toolbox a butcher a baker and a candlestick maker to first attack then Literally bury the fiend under the world's most spiteful construction project Seth Rollins assault was so monotonous that even eventually the referee got bored and called for a deal Time seen the legacy of the cell as a huge ending mega gimmick Rollins booking had been awful in the build-up to the matches This was the icing on the s*** cake one of the most enduring images of the night Is a dejected looking Rollins walking to the back knowing what just happened was an absolute disaster Past a sign that read Seth Rollins is not cool Yeah, man Oh that match will live in infamy as one of the worst booked matches one of the worst booked hell in the sales One of the worst character assassination matches of all time It just it was just dumb. It shouldn't have happened It shouldn't have happened No That match should have not happened like that It shouldn't even if you're not going to put the title on set on on the fiend at the time It didn't matter. That's why they should have kept the fiend away from the titles for a bit Yeah, you know Hey At least they've came out better in the overall grand scheme of things there in much better situation Seth Rollins is doing some of the best work of his career And break why it seems like he's enjoying what he's doing and you know has the fans interested in what's going to happen Coming, you know, we know leading into the future. So And number one joint number one Batista and Ray Mysterio wwe royal rumble 2014 ah the 2014 royal rumble an event so poorly booked It made the crown turn on not one not seven but two fan favorites in the space of about 10 minutes All because they had the audacity to not be Daniel Bryan when we wanted both of them to be Daniel Bryan The crowd also booed John Cena and Randy Orson earlier in the night because they also weren't Daniel Bryan But remember road dog has told us this was the plan all along now. It wasn't road dog You can't even mother f***ing know it wasn't and you know it wasn't and if you're not down with that I've got two words for you. You're full of shits man Fans would get to see Brian in the rumble if not as its eventual winner But at least as someone who put in a gutsy performance to help advance its reputation as the loveable underdog However, Ray Mysterio emerged as the 30th's entrant this eliminating any chance of Brian participating in the match And the mood in the arena turned sour as people started booing ironically the loveable masked underdog Ray Mysterio Things just go worse from there as fans continued to boo the remaining participants They did briefly pause to cheer reigned over obvious winner Batista But resumed cheering as the inevitable happened and Batista won the match cementing his place in the main event of the show of shows WWE were then forced to change their planned main event of Batista winning the title from former evolution stable mate Randy Orson In the main event of WrestleMania 30. So Brian picking up the belts instead Yes, of course your road dog and tell us it was the plan all along It wasn't even though Batista and Brian have said that it wasn't you're full of s*** road dog No, I don't know why he says that it was never the f***ing plan If you believe that was the plan booking you guys No, bro. No, you gotta be naive to believe that that was not the plan booking. They did not in fact We know it wasn't the plan booking because CM Punk was supposed to be there He no showed he was supposed to be there that night I think CM Punk was supposed to face triple h if i'm not mistaken Now he was supposed to face triple h if Daniel Brian wasn't even supposed to be in the main event I'm just be honest with you We all know he wasn't supposed to be in the main event, but things happen for a reason It was his time That's all I can say It was his time to be the guy to win and overcome the odds and it was a beautiful moment and made for one of if not One of the greatest WrestleMania moments of all time, bro Anytime I talk about it get goosebumps man. Anytime I talk about it get goosebumps, but comment down below. Let me know What was the precise moment that you? Started booing or not caring for a character even though they were a baby face I want to know down below. Let me know just any wrestler at some point will use like, you know what? I don't want to cheer them on. I'm gonna boo them. Don't really care for their character as a baby face Let's boom. Let me know down below, but I appreciate all love and support road to 150k appreciate y'all kicking me. See y'all in the next one. Peace