 Hello again. So today I'm going to tell you about one of my favorite books. Well of course this theme is favorite books. But this was one that was a book that I came across after I did my Pomecox design course in 1996. And I took it with me. It was only about four books I took with me to the place where I spent a year on the side of a mountain in Ireland. Very very basic with water from a spring, grew our own vegetables and so on. And this was really where I learned how to put the Pomecox I've been learning on the design course into practice. And so this was the biggest book that I took with me and it's called Very Catchingly. Designing and Maintaining Your Edible Landscape Naturally. Which I suppose is basically what it is. It's all about. And this is an American book by a chap called Robert Couric who'd also written a book about lavender. It's very interesting. And this is another of those books. For me this is as a gardener. Somebody who loves to grow food and garden. There's a lot of good technical information in here. Again you can see it's quite a chunky book. It's not a hard back. Which usually for me is a bit problematic when books get to this big. But I've never particularly noticed a problem with this one. Because often if you open a soft back book of this size at any kind of size and then you page often you'll find that pages start flopping back over again. It gets very annoying. But this book doesn't seem to have that problem. And it's full of again lots of diagrams. You probably tell by now I like pictures. It has to be a really good book for me to be able to cope with there being no pictures in it. Because for me pictures tell so much. Explain so much that otherwise save a lot of words. So we have things like the rooting depths of plants. Relationships. Particularly what's going on above the soil in relation to what's below the soil. We often see this but we don't know too much about what's going on below. And later on Robert actually wrote a book called Roots Demystified to really get into the fine detail of what's going on below the soil. This is a thinner book. This is the book that inspired me initially. I still think it's a fantastic book. It came out in about 1988. Here we are look lots more pictures of roots. This was the work of an academic that Corey could come across. This chap had basically spent pretty much his whole academic life excavating the root systems of plants like an archaeologist would very carefully and mapping them. And so we've got all of these different maps of different plants and where they root and how they sit in relation to each other within the soil. And that's very useful when you're putting things together that you're trying to avoid competing with each other. So lots of data on plant varieties and so on. This of course is an American book. North American book. But a lot of this does translate very well over to Northern Europe and Britain. Many of these things are familiar to us already. More roots and yet more roots. But what's particularly interesting for me is Couric provides what he calls the golden rules of edible landscaping. And for those of us who've learnt permaculture, many of these are actually rather familiar. And I feel that what happened was the permaculture came out about the same time as this book emerged. And people, particularly in the States, United States, basically looked upon these principles and said, hang on a sec. That's permaculture. So I particularly like enjoy your landscape. If it's just drudgery, you're doing something wrong. But there are some that are really clearly obviously things that we might see in permaculture start ever so small, which relates to start small and work out from well managed areas. Be lazy. Let nature work for you. That's work with nature or everything gardens. Turn limitations into virtues. The problem is the solution and so on. So there's essentially this is whilst it's a book that's very much focused on food growing and your local you know your garden or your local landscape. And the details of that is very much a permaculture book to relate to the garden. And for me, has yes, some excellent tables of indicator plants. Skip past. Here we go. Soil indicators plants that tell you what kind of soil conditions you have if you find quite a lot of these plants. So useful information to know. Yes, for me, a definite a book to definitely have in your library. If you're any kind of a gardener or interest permaculture. And so this is now, whilst this is the old metamorphic press American version, this is now also available in Britain from permanent publications. So if you live in Britain, it's much easier to get hold of now than used to be.