 And welcome to the 2 p.m. Update with me David White here tf and in now what do we have well we had kind of a little bit of a bounce there was a great deal of this was based on some rumors out of China and of course employment numbers this morning but I really think that you know the huge bounce over in China which was a rumor that I think kind of started to fall flat and why we were up fairly strongly early in the morning and then turned around so hard is heard that there were some comments that maybe the cart was before the horse on some of that of course the big mover out here is crude up 4% over 4.4% gold on its heels up 2.86% and probably the biggest well if there's two things that were really interesting and we'll talk about those on the show but the first one is I've always complained about the volume not being all that exciting or just on the margins maybe 5% to 10% higher or lower but we're going to have a big volume day we've got two point well let's call it two and a quarter billion shares as we start the show today and that is something we haven't had for a while so we'll see how we close the end of the day options have been kind of bullish until we got the the boomed dropped on us most people probably not sailors and remember the nautical reference there but certainly a great deal of that so other things that we have going on of course I'll get to that here midterms on Tuesday and I don't know if the market's going to move that much it doesn't happen but every four years and of course you get the general election every two years or every four years too but not exactly sure if there's going to be some worries in that or in decisions as I said that volume is pretty good and lastly watch out china rumors about them reopening and maybe getting off the zero tolerance covid plan are floating around so maybe something on monday when we return see it the reality is that navigating financial markets can be risky markets can be chaotic and difficult to understand