 I think you have to admit in more recent years DeFasco is still quite active in research and they're doing some very interesting things, but they are now a part of a worldwide metal arcelore DeFasco group and so they have you know less impact I would say even locally and Stelka was sold to US Steel basically some serious problems so I would say that that's true of the mineral industry in Canada in general there have been so many purchases of Canadian based companies by global firms and I'm talking not just about the steel companies I'd say aluminum for example has moved Alkan labs in Kingston no longer function Stelka research has gone eco you could you can go right across Canada name one metallurgical company after another and they've been purchased and they've been in many cases downsized the research capabilities that being moved somewhere else and so I see it as a very unfortunate set of development and I don't see how you can reverse that what's just happened yeah and has it effect the the numbers in the program it's affected the opportunities for our students in Canada especially absolutely I mean where would you go so I really see that as a very negative and I could launch into a diatribe against it but I really is I think it's affected our students and their prospects and in fact what we do