 All right It's good thing I didn't say what I was gonna sit on what this is a good thing I didn't say what I was gonna say I'm oh nothing Why does it matter? No, is it something? Huh? No, okay? Huh? I don't know cuz I'm just not gonna see it on live on webcam Why I'm right at no I don't know I just dropped Zeus Yeah Hey three people now. No, I took a shit Hello people Yes, yes, we do My mic talking now talking now into my mic. Hello. Hello testing testing holy cow Yeah, talk turning down turn turned it down. Holy crud. What why is everything? That's completely off boost Hello testing testing testing That was digging Why are you digging around all right part of the live experience folks? Yep Assuming you can even hear this and they can yes Well, I'm gonna open that window a little bit. No, I'm cranking open. Huh? It's not that cold though. I am roasting We don't need this right now Don't worry we were talking bad about you Yes, yes, we do as in like not a patreon thing Audio testing testing audio I don't know how Playback are you see how it's sounding on the actual isn't like not a patreon thing and that sounds clean. Mm-hmm How's it sound everybody out there? Well marks watching yeah mark. How's it sound? Unplug it from that connection point this It's not great. He says no, yeah He backs up from the mic. It might be better. No that Mark is working Mark, I know you can hear me. I know it sounds really crazy sound on your side. It shouldn't that's the point. Yeah It should not be this loud ever Something's not right Why are we peeking out and or we're picking all the crazy yeah, right? Now talking talking now hello hello Testing testing I could fix that peaking. That's not the issue. That's not the peaking that matters Right now talking now testing testing We start out as the help I mean, I don't know why it's having issues. I just made a video right? I literally just made a video and the audio is fine, right? So why is there issues now because I touched it Why did you touch my shit? I don't know dude. Yeah, now it's all fucked up testing I didn't even need you to talk. It's all fucked up. Hey Why what did you even do? I didn't do anything and you said you touched it. I touched this you can't touch it That's why I don't let my kids in here. You know that Any little minor touch of the audio shit fucks it up Look out I'm gonna handle that I haven't plugged it plugged it back in. Yeah, I get that you over there. I will try to fix Can't ever have a podcast little technical difficulties, right? I'm fatter than I'm fatter than I don't know about that. Yeah, I know about that I'm fine. You're even more. Yeah, cuz you're taller Are you from the 250s? Yeah, hopefully yeah, and I'll imagine I'm at that but shorter than you that officially makes me fatter All right, the thing is it's not peeking in here Turn all the boost off Okay Hit the thing Make sure I'm gonna turn this off here Me turn off these extra lines that are on right now. I Don't know what that makes a difference right now. They could be shunt because there's nothing plugged in Alright, I delete the the audio wave and note again. Yeah, see there's still feedback. Hello testing one to you Okay, why is it so loud? Hey everyone? Well, that's peeking like a motherfucker. Um, It's a little better on the low end though. Let me see if it's like that on this mic, too Ted Steno, yeah, it should not be like this I bet you this is it this Ted this I mean technically this is that the technically this is at zero But that's what happens someone to mess with the mean mix Oh, I forgot where I had the main mix app before wasn't wasn't it zero Because this is how you turn up everyone at once if you're if like you can if you can equal out the volumes And then it's still just sounds a little quiet and you can't like get any higher or lower You can just edit the whole main mix Something we haven't I only mess with when we have guests usually my son was the mess of it I don't remember what the default level was I don't know if it's a plus 15. Let's try minus Testin one. Nope more minus than that. Let's try minus. Hey everyone. I am Nathan Robo jets from the Nintendo Prime Pockets Hey everyone, I am Nathan Robo jets from the Nintendo Prime Pockets Chatting on here. Hello testing testing. Hello topics might help Oh, yeah, only have one page two and I'm pretty sure that's oh, okay Now sound was turned way up on the mixer that's what the problem was So now that we have that figured out Yeah Nice did she grab her sub I mean, it's not like I guess I can't stop over there and give it to her Yeah, no, I said I could stop over there and give it to her Joking Maybe You're gonna want to move one move your chair so we can see if we're actually Can you actually see the camera I could see the camera Why do you think I'm adjusting the position of the mics now I can't see the camera Yeah, I could see the camera. It's right here on the right screen Well, you need to look at yourself that bad just gotta make sure your soda is like not up here where yours was because it looks Fucking huge Gotta keep it back All right So let me explain to mark something when mark earlier was like no what you guys need to do is you need to back the mics off Here's the deal mark. Let me let me let me tell you so hold on. You have to Testing one two. Okay. Yeah, that looks better. So oh So we can here here's the deal mark these mics you're supposed to talk into you have to swallow these Not further out now you can make it so you can make it go further off But then you get an echo and if it's that far out that also means it's picking up background noise everywhere These mics actually cancel out the background noise the issue had nothing to do With the mics themselves had to do with the mixer. I knew it had to do with the mixer It just took us forever to figure out which part of the mixer was screwed up And it turns out we somehow bumped the main mix and crank that up to like the extreme We could probably bump it up a little bit more and actually use my boost, but that we don't know about that right now Anyways, so that's what happened mark. There's nothing wrong with it and edward. I know I think is watching so Yeah, that's what happened. No big deal. We have the audio fixed. Let's get into the podcast here We go. So let me do our usual For those who have never watched a podcast live like mark hasn't this is literally raw unedited stuff You're seeing around none of this makes it into the final cut This is just the benefit you get of being a ten dollar background up You get to see all the raw crap you get to see us fighting about who's fatter Yeah, exactly you get to see all the dirty little secrets We don't talk about all the audio issues we have that don't pop up in the final recording Yeah, right now you see how it's a pain in the butt every single week. There's something Yeah, anyways, all right Let's get let's get the shindig going Hey, everyone welcome to the nintendo prime podcast episode 50 foe So for starters before we dive too deep into this HMK was supposed to with us this week. Yep canceled last minute try to find some replacements No one came through it is what it is But eric's here as always. Yep. Yep. And I wasn't gonna be last week. Well, here's the deal We didn't have a podcast last week No one's really at fault for it If anyone's at fault, it's me eric wasn't feeling well But that's besides the books. I always said come hell or high water There would be a podcast because we hit our $100 patreon goal Well, the deal is that it wasn't just that eric, you know I mean, I kind of knew the morning of the podcast. He might not be coming Um, and you let me know for sure around like four o'clock or something But whatever that's neither here nor there the reality is I never tried to even attempt to schedule guests I didn't even have podcast topics picked out yet My fiance had the flu and I've been like a 24 seven dad for like two weeks now And I love being a dad, but it also means I have very little time to get things right here at center prime And I you know If I mean admittedly if eric would have sucked it up and came over we would have somehow pulled together a podcast But it would have been low quality And I think at this point we've kind of upped our game enough Yeah to uh to the point that I I'm not willing to produce a low quality product just to get a product out Right, um, I want to I want to produce something that I'm proud of Then some of you guys might remind me that are you in with myself wasn't the greatest product in the world at lunch But that's just because I I admittedly didn't want to have to rerecord stuff. So now that it's out. I know how to edit it. It'll be easier next time Um, and we'll see you here in there. We'll see what I know when it's coming Now what is also cool is uh, even though we don't have a guest For this week like I was hoping to come back with uh next week. Darren is supposedly coming back He told me he's coming back. He said next week his recording area He's acting like he has a recording studio. It's his grandma's house Um, it acts like he's got a big deal and he's coming back. Whatever. Darren will be back So for those that have missed him the past month, no worries I mean be worried because he's done this before and then not showed up. So Hopefully he's back and back for good Uh, and just because I don't trust him We're we're gonna have other guests scheduled. Yeah, um, I next week when I what's gonna end up happening Is I'm gonna be planning for two special guests. So then if one cancels we still have another one Um Right now I'm trying I'm trying to get player essence to come on and there's a couple of youtubers I was talking to but here's what it is or maybe some of our patreon backers Will sign up because if you didn't know if you're a $20 patreon backer or more You can come on a podcast you get invited every single month. I already put up the the podcast invite post for this month So if you are a $20 backer and you haven't signed up yet for this month Go to that post on patreon.com slash nintendo prime And if you want to become one you can do it as well And the dates are all listed there. We record around 9 p.m It was a little later today one because we were hoping hmk would get home in time And he wasn't in two because we obviously had the audio issues, right, uh, but Whatever let's get into the podcast. Oh I mean, I guess we mentioned patreon. What other tiers are there for for a podcast? Oh good god Well, what's our number one podcast here? Probably the five dollar five dollar five dollar foot long All right, right five dollar patreon tier is actually our most popular tier because you get the full audio podcast A day earlier than the public now That's technically not the earliest you can get this podcast because we now from the $10 tier and up We live stream our podcast as we're recording it and it's literally raw uncut you see a green screen You see all the flubs and the mistakes and the audio issues that crop up and everything before and after Not really so much after but yeah, it's it's kind of a hot mess that you see Oh, yeah, that ends up being an amazing final product and you can thank our lovely editor martin for that Yes, I found a way to finally mention. Hey, there we go again. Um Anyways, let's get into our actual topics for this week. Yes, and the first one Well, you know what once you go through the topic rundown topic rundown topic one What is our earliest gaming memories? All right, that that should be an interesting one. Yep topic two. Should we be worried about nintendo's lineup for switch in 2018? Number three, what are our feelings on rumors in general? And topic four. Oh gosh Nintendo is apparently going to wait a long time for switch revisions Yep, so we have a lot of great stuff to talk about this week. Let's just get right into it. Uh topic one Uh, what what's our earliest gaming memories? I've talked briefly about this in a live stream before I don't ever think I made a real video about it and this topic was actually inspired from a live stream q&a I believe not last week or someone were you kind of got to talking about pokemon and talking about early gaming memories? And i'm like, you know what this would make a really good topic to bring up on a podcast So i'm gonna shoot it over to you first. What's like the earliest game you remember playing? Oh gosh Hmm I know probably mario just rated super mario super mario bros. Yeah on nes. Yeah with uh watching either my uncle or my my brother's playing punch out or Stuff like that was the first game you played game. I played It was probably probably mario probably after watching People play it was more likely mario or duck hunt Because you know you got to get them in the same cartridge. So yeah, and I talked about you know Mind before but you know, obviously this is just us this time. So um, my earliest was bike tyson's punch out My dad played it a lot When you know the few times I saw him because he's working 80 hour weeks It's kind of how we wound down if he wasn't having having the old the old booze He'd wind down done with uh with some punch out at night And that was also the first game I played because when you go to the bathroom I would pick up the controller and get mad at me because I died to bike tyson and waste the whole lives Right. Um, he got really mad about that But it is what it is that was the very first game I ever played still love it to this day Oh, yeah, it's punch out and mike tyson's punch out. Love them both. I know they brought punch out back I think during the wee era and stuff like that. It's okay. It's actually it's actually not I mean It's okay. I still like the nes version better, but I get I know there's some nostalgic Right, right. I'm well aware of that. I actually think the newer version is probably better But I it's just hard for me because like it is the first game I ever played it's a little bit less stereotypical The new one is Um, what are some what other like what what are some fond memories you have from like your very early days Of like these are the days I made us gamers, right? No for sure I I remember, you know, just whether it be your house or other friends house is just going over and kicking back and whether we're playing like braveheart or Braveheart or a pc braveheart. Yep, or age of empires or You know you kick out to nes which we were playing and gosh, I didn't even remember what deck we used to play on nes More I I didn't play a lot of nes with you. No. Yeah, you're right because there's more s nes We No, we n64 era when we realized we lived across the street from each other, right? Okay So you and me personally we played some nes. We played some snes, but It was mostly n64 and up because um The snes was more so we both have one. So we just went back and played like secret amana. I never had one or I have one Yeah, you had a secret amana or um, you know home alone. Yep Lion king castlevania, but like That wasn't when we right we really I mean we played some of those games together But a lot like a lot of the games I owned on snes were single player. Um I don't know if that was a sign of the time of the era because there was only two controller ports Right, but I played a lot of single player games and On nes we did go back because you had an nes And we did go back sometimes play some balloon trip and stuff like that, but balloon fight Uh, I remember going back playing a lot of battle toads with you. Oh, yeah, lots about that game. It was so hard. Yeah But like my earliest gaming memory with you, you know, just just thinking back was The day we realized we lived across the street from each other Was my birthday party Had you over for a birthday party I don't remember if it was my eighth or ninth birthday something like that. Yeah, or maybe it was a little more I can't remember when I moved into that house. It might have been when I was 10 I'd have to go back and ask my parents for a year. Did we move into that house over there because they built the new house at the time um, but it had been a couple years and I finally had a birthday party there And one of the main things we played at the birthday party was track and field Putting the pencil between the thing going back forth and using the running mat And at the time We didn't know that you lived where you did we sent out invites through the daycare yeah, um and obviously with some of my friends at school and You showed up and you're like, dude, I didn't realize you lived right behind me, right? Yeah, right, and I'm like, what? Yeah, wait, yeah, I live right over here and then and then after that from that point on we basically hung out almost every single day No, that we humanly could yeah, right? Yeah um But like that was my earliest like I actually playing like I we did I remember Uh, we went to a monkey business. Yep, which was a daycare. That was like the last daycare. We went together Oh, we did did we do it for a while for a little yeah, because I was only at the Y for two years Right. I think it was that one or one of the one of the years. Yeah, I remember I never got to go on any of the fun trips You did I so But because they used to be like fun like Noah's Ark like they don't even do that anymore, but they you know, um I'm surprised they did it back then to be honest. You're right. But back then was a lot different world than what today is too So yeah, whatever. Yeah, that's still not hard to go on a bus and go to Noah's Ark Come on um Liability, I don't know if I'd want to go on a bus to Noah's Ark at that thing Because like you're only really there for like an hour or two and then come all the way back It's not even worth the trip. No, you spent yay seven hours in the car for one hour of play And then you get to stand in line for an hour and maybe get to go on one ride. Well, it's in the middle of the week You get to go on a little bus but um Yeah, so yeah, my earliest gaming memories, I guess with you even predate that I remember playing your game gear Oh, yeah Love game gear. You were the one that introduced me to game gear actually. I had no idea what a game I had a game boy. I was a game boy kid. Yep. You played my game boy too. Yeah But I remember your game gear playing uh sonic lots of sonic Don't remember which sonic game I was but it was a lot of a lot of sonic. Yeah Oh I'm trying to think there. I think there was one. Did you have the island game on there? No, I had I don't I had that I had it on game boy. Right. Um, I had a bugs bunny game. Yeah, and I also had uh mlb 95 And they play much of that on yours. Oh, that's a lot of that's a fun game Um, I remember sonic. I put some sonic. We killed the batteries and I think every day Oh, I know. I think didn't take much to kill batteries. No, I think there's six double a batteries. Yeah. No, yeah, it really did not take much um So, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's from my earliest memories with you right because of my earliest was um punch out and then I I progress from punch out to Wasn't even duck hunt. I think to track and field and I think track and field at the time was combined. Oh, no, it wasn't combined. That was combined with mario Or duck hunt one of the two But I didn't really play a lot of duck hunt. I was more into hogan's alley. Oh, yeah Hogan's alley was the bomb with the light gun. Uh-huh. Uh, and then after that when I finally got a game boy um Obviously pokemon became like a big deal eventually but that wasn't right away because the game was quite a while before pokemon came out it was Super mario land Played a ton of super mario land. I know a lot of people think oh, it's not a good mario game To me it was the greatest mario game of all time. I'm playing mario on the go Right. I even played that before I played mario on nes like Then I realized oh, there's my nes and then I did eventually I'm not even an nes a little better But yeah, I mean I was still impressed with with land that I have that thing on the go and then just a lot of That I mean that's basically how I became a nintendo gamer is my dad Had an nes and that's just kind of led to me being a nintendo gamer Now my dad did eventually get like a sega genesis and stuff like that and I played games on that and I didn't hate it Like it wasn't like I wasn't even though the big war back then was sega versus nintendo I like didn't care I used to play tons of rampart war rampart was a big one. I used to play on the genesis a lot um, but what was really interesting to me is I even though for all the nes snes and n64 I played I probably was a bigger pc gamer than anything else The moment my dad Um tricked me into building my own pc for my birthday Greatest trick ever I hope I do it on my kids and maybe like Ali's really interested in building things and how things work I could see on hit on one of his birthdays when he's like seven Like trick like hey, I need you to help me build like this new computer for work And then just surprising them. Oh my god Yulia is gonna kill me right um But and plus I'm like such a need to be tall. I'm such a tech geek. It's it might not be top of the line But it's gonna be pretty good. Yeah, it's gonna be nice. Yeah, I'm gonna make sure he's got that 1080p 100 fps. We're gonna also go have to go out and find some brave art No, no, no, he won't even he no those games the kids one of the patients for the frustration of the bugs in those games Um, I think that that game could have been so like yeah, I thought it was amazing But like as time went on like that was pretty buggy Like if they would have just passed the game right and so good, um lords the realm lords the realm too Was the best. Yeah, that's the best but still have to get that work But that's the thing like I built that pc and then um, I was getting really big in the age of empires Yep, I got big in the madden that's when I I always liked the nfo games But I was more quarterback club on console. Oh for sure than mad Uh, but my dad played madden on pc a lot and that got me into playing mad So I could play against my dad Uh, and it was always kind of cool with my dad being his office and I would be on the other side playing He would just get swearing at me and I'm like dad. I'm only like 10 Right and I just scored on you I'm like I'm like rated to cross the hall from me Um And then from there, I just kind of I loved pc games, you know age of empires one two three Uh, and then there was Oh man, what else? I there were so many games back then majesty. We you and I played a lot of majesty together. Love majesty Um, I was to do tycoon you had that I did but I played it a lot at your house Um, and I was funny too because like I always said the better computer than you because you guys always had the family computer Yeah, then your parents just refused to ever upgrade. Yeah, well we tried but I'm pretty sure that one of our local Chops ripped us off. Well, I Yeah, well, I remember like you upgrading and getting it fixed and I'm like, how much is like this place charging you and I'm like Yeah, I I mean, I'm I know I'm not a professional but I could did it for like I know I could you just bought the parts off eve. Anyways, whatever it was it was This is that this is the early ages of PCs. Yeah, like when um, I mean even today a lot of pc shops will massively overcharge you If you give me an example, um, I don't know what's going to show up on camera. Um, my phone Is actually got a crack down in that bottom left corner. It is a legit crack. There's no screen on here right now And um, it's actually kind of a shatter. So it's not it's not good. I need to replace the screen now I can use my insurance on my phone 150 bucks or whatever 200 bucks get a brand new phone. Um, but the thing is is like I'm like, well Why spend 200 when I just get the screen fix? Well, when you go look at what people are charging for screen fixes That's 100 to 200 bucks. They're 250. Yeah 250 to get the screen fix on my phone. And I'm like Well, that's stupid. You're telling me I can get a new phone for the same price. Yeah. Yeah No, no, no, that's because of the insurance I have but that's fine. It's a thousand dollar phone So like well this one's I guess is 900. Sorry the new samsung this year is going to be the thousand dollar samsung but um No, what what's interesting about it? And and I know this because I learned this younger when When I used to work at geek squad and stuff like we overcharge compared to what it actually cost to get the parts I can go online and buy a $40 screen repair kit gives you a brand new samsung galaxy s a screen Plus all the tools to take apart your thing and just install the screen yourself Now the reason that people don't go that way is they don't trust themselves taking apart electronics And I understand that it can be scary if you don't know what you're doing You could really screw things up, but dude, I take a hard computer crap all the time Right, so you're telling me $200 for a brand new one or I can just buy 40 bucks fix it myself And then still pay it off and sell it like it's new. Yeah So of course that's what I'm going to do. Oh, yeah Like it's it's going to be on order this month so I can fix it up You know probably won't fix it right away because it's in that corner So I don't use it a lot but as soon as it starts to spread a bit more there Let's let's just replace it Um, because it's just not like the insurance policy is nice if I lose my phone Like crack screen as long as it's not the actual display behind it. It's just the glass in front. That's that's that's nothing Right. Um, and that's what it is. It's just the glass in front. So Yeah, like those are my earliest game memories and uh I don't know what it was like I got big into pc, but I somehow never really abandoned nintendo, right um I invested a lot of money in pc games and and I could tell you one reason one reason And this is this is kind of a credit to the digital revolution that's now been happening over the past 10 years Is you couldn't really resell pc games very much And you could some you could in the early nights, right? You were able to go resell and resell your keys and sell the game shops But as we got into the 2000s, they weren't accepting that anymore You couldn't resell pc games, right because the keys were locked to your computer and couldn't be reused right so Because of that I kind of became a huge pc gamer compared to nintendo because I was a kid and always wanted money. So I always sold my games. Yeah, right Um, because they give me money, but you can't sell your pc games. So I would oh I went sold seven and 64 games today But I still have all 50 of my pc games. So I guess I'm playing games on pc And that's what even out of my switch I've sold a few physical switch games But I still have like 20 plus games on my switch to play because I have so many digital games Um So like I actually like that about digital for my purposes I always have that mentality if I need a quick buck right now Easiest thing I have to sell is my games. You know, yeah, there's pawn shop I'm sure I could pawn some stuff in my house and and you could literally pawn stuff like just borrow That's what paunting technically is you are giving them something to borrow money until you can pay it back Plus like x amount of interest or whatever it is. Um, you know, usually it's really cheap to it's like 1 interest And if you never pay a bet they just keep the item. Um, so I mean, I've just never done that I've never actually pawned something. I've always just traded it in for cash And I've always been afraid to pawn because you know, it's like You know, what's the chance I'm going to remember to go back and just buy it buy my think bag, you know Um So I've always been you know, I just sell the games and I can always buy the games back later if I need Because one one nice thing about most games not nintendo games Most games is that they get cheaper over time, right? So let's say I bought you know like payday 2, you know bought that the other day for 50 bucks Yeah, uh, apparently day one you could have bought on amazon amazon prime for 27 on switch Okay, that scares me that means if I go sell my payday 2 copy right now back to gamestop I I checked the value on it. I could get 33 dollars cash And I guarantee you two months from now I can rebuy the game for under 20, right? So it's like That's why I never felt so bad about selling physical copies of games over the years because you could always If you sell it at the right time get your get the game back for cheaper than what you got paid So basically you kind of make a little bit and it also depends and it also depends on the uh game Yeah, no nintendo games are obviously different, right if I sell odyssey I'm not gonna ever see it for under 20 bucks, right? It might hit 20 bucks Like seven years from now, right? But yeah, um well, I mean, it's kind of like you your turtles in time game What was here? So we talked a lot about like that That's our really early years of gaming and the world of warcraft came out and then I got uh Yeah, pokemon and all this stuff as well, but we played a lot of pokemon a lot of trading I remember using the cables link cables all the way. Um, crystal chronicles. That was really fun Despite the link cable situation man, it was fun, right But what I want to know is there like one game you think back to that like that made you hooked on gaming Like what was the game that's like man now? I'm gonna play games all the time I know what it is for my son Yeah um I mean what got my son hooked on tablet gaming was a yeah, that was the game But what's what's got him actually really into console gaming right now is mario odyssey of all things Yeah, freaking love he'd rather play mario odyssey than the angry birds in the other week. Yeah, which I mean hey I'm proud of you son. You'd rather play mario than than the angry birds, but it's one of those things where um I It's amazing to me that like mario odyssey is what got he's seen me play a lot of games grant I don't try to let him watch me play the stuff. He's not old enough to see right I think he can watch me play rest of the wild even though he's not old enough. It's fine It's not a big deal. Yeah, it's well like but like payday two. He's not gonna watch me. Oh, yeah No, um, so I'm not gonna let him get hooked my one of those games But I could tell odyssey is the game that made him want a 2ds Um, and oddly enough he only owns zelda on the 2ds. My god damn when he played that game for like 17 hours And not even be able to get out of kukiri forest Sorry, why not? But but it's mario that made him want it. So he's uh That's what we got him hooked my my daughter is I wouldn't say she's hooked yet. Yeah Um, she likes she's she's more into the she's a girl. I guess I don't know if this has to do with the girl She likes like watching youtube videos and stuff more than playing games. I don't know. Um, but She does like mario kart like hardcore mario kart. Yeah, and that's probably what got me hooked was mario kart Mario Kart 64. Yep. Okay Mario Kart 64 mario 64 and conquerors bad for a day. Okay the combination of those three Um really pulled me into gaming So, well, sorry, let me rephrase that pokemon Well, that's what I was saying like for me um You know, I played a bunch of games, but I really it really wasn't one of those things where I felt like I needed to play Um, I don't know if you want to call it. Well, I wasn't addicted or something I don't know but I I would rather play outside. I would rather do like a zillion other things right and then Pokemon came along and I bought Blue or no, I bought fire red day one Or it wasn't fire. I just read the re-release was fire red. Um, and then I got blue like a month later And then I can't remember when yellow came I think it was a year later or something Yeah, something like that. Yeah, uh, because I was always excited about yellow because oh, he could follow me around That's like the anime right exactly. Um, but Pokemon and this is why I always say the pokemon's got a special place in my heart and why I am going to Even if I haven't liked some of the things they've done the pokemon over the years Why I'm going to try to get pokemon and switch as fair a chance as I can right and I'm going to sink dozens of hours and at least right because Pokemon is really what got me to become More than I would just say a casual gamer just someone who who played the games his dad had when he could Otherwise I was playing with friends and playing sports and going the daycare Exactly. Yeah, I mean I had a game boy, but I really wasn't playing it all the time Unless it was a car trip and even then most of the time I would listen to a portable cd player right rather than the game um But then pokemon came along and it just like opened my mind I don't I can't really explain how it just it was my first Big rpg and like I played links awakening before and I played You know secret amana and stuff like this But I really wasn't deep into those games until pokemon hit and they made me go back and realize Wait a second. Yeah, what have I been missing out on these other games that I've just watched my dad play and I've only played a little bit um And that's why pokemon like the gen one is such a special place It's not for sure It's not just nostalgia because obviously nostalgia plays a big role in a lot of looking back at games Right. No for sure But it's that pokemon may like i'm doing nintendo prime today because of pokemon I created zelda Domain I would have never got into ocarina of time if it wasn't for pokemon Um, it's crazy to me just thinking back how much pokemon has actually led to a massive impact on my life where I'm going to be 32 this year and I'm covering video games for a living right because of that game Um, and yes, I did play a generation two Of course, I love generation one so why wouldn't I buy generation two? And then it was after generation two I started to fall off and I've talked about before you know explaining why That might be and we'll have a pokemon discussion for another day because martin really wants to come in and talk about Talk about some pokemon. So we'll have a we'll have a discussion about uh, How we fell out of pokemon why we really want to get back into it? And martin will probably land based us over all the changes that have happened every generation because he's like One of the biggest pokemon fans. I know hey good for him though. Um, but It's just interesting You know that pokemon out of all the games I played and all the games I tried Something about pokemon. Mm-hmm. It not just got me hooked a pokemon. It got me hooked a gaming Oh for sure. Yeah, and I don't know what what about it made me want to even go play other games Usually when you get hooked on something you just want to keep playing that something. Yeah, but it's actually made me want to play more games I don't know why I think again with me though. I think it was a combination of I think when I got my pokemon and stuff like that Is when I got right around the same time as I got my 64 So it was kind of a combination of You know mario kart 64 that kind of got me hooked into the The console gaming sure and then I had the game boy color. Yeah, because pokemon came out red and blue came out 96. Yeah same year as i in 64. Yep, so So I I mean I was I think I had my pokemon a little slightly before we got our 64 And I remember rent the one night one Christmas. We ended up while going out to blockbuster and Renting a 64 And we had mario kart and my whole family just sat down and played That was probably one of my all-time favorite memories of gaming Because we had so much fun just destroying each other and and yelling and screaming and and laughing and here's what sucks I tried to relive that with my kids Yeah, because like I didn't really my mom not so much but my dad played mario kart with us. I'm in 64 Um, and I'm like, oh man my kids They see me they want to play mario kart like let's all play let's julia me and the kids play mario kart together And here's the thing About today's mario kart or at least The thing about today that I might have been different back then maybe because mario kart was a little bit newer Even though it was also on snes I'm just too good a mario kart and I can't try to be bad. I try So like here's the thing my kids struggle at anything past 50 cc. They don't really want to play past that So they were playing 50 cc. I'm on 50 cc. I'm lapping the whole field Halfway through the second lap and it's like this isn't really fun So like I'm enjoying watching my kids have a good time But I'm just sitting there like I might as well not even be playing right And I I'm not I'm not trying to have like this elitist ads But it's just like when I was a kid and my dad played my dad wasn't that good Right. I think it was again, probably because Gaming was a newer Thing newer that kind of gaming. Yes the kind of party cart gaming Right kind of party gaming in general right outside of our case was kind of a newer thing It's not something that you know, we didn't grow up watching. Yeah Well, the thing is like this is like what this is Mario Kart 8 8th Mario Kart I played right exactly. It's like yeah, my kids my kids first, so They'll get up to probably even being better than me someday But it's just one of those things that like now it sucked because my first memory with them I wanted to be like it wasn't much out, but I'm like I just I'm I'm you have to find I need to find a game that I don't play haven't really played Yeah, right, but that I mean the game is is Angry Birds And yeah, my son's better at Angry Birds than I am. He's admittedly better than me. Yeah, and I enjoy Angry Birds I actually don't think like I know some people scoff at mobile games. I don't have an issue with mobile games. I enjoy a lot of them Um, so but the thing is like Angry Birds doesn't the game you really play together Right. It's just you just take turns so I don't know I'm glad you had that memory like that. That's awesome. I have a very similar memory except it was just me and my dad My sister was too young to play. Yep but Yeah, it was great. It was great and then that that year we we ended up getting a 64 for Christmas I think it was a trial run to see how we how it worked. We got um, let me see. I got polka on I got polka one the day it launched. I don't remember why because I didn't see any commercials for it. Um My dad or my mom might have saw some and I had a game boy I only have like two games and I think they asked me Hey, this is a game called Pokemon coming over from Nintendo. Do you want it? I'm like, of course I want a new game I'm a kid. I want new everything. Yeah, right? So they got it for me day one and then They hooked ever since but um, I never had an og game boy. I didn't get a n64 until Christmas 97 Then we got the family in 64 right They didn't buy it the first year too expensive Second year was a little bit cheaper and it I think they got it packaged with mario 64 Um, and like two other games. I can't remember what they were Like mario 64 is the only launch game that mattered. Yeah Because I think there was like one other game like pilot wings or something. Yeah, but you didn't buy an n64 launch So I got mario 64 and I forget what the other game was and then obviously that followed new yorker Your time came out and then like the rest is basically history because the zelda just I like I played zelda before yorker in times not my first zelda game, but um Ocarina of time as much as I rank ocarina of time So low on my favorite zelda list It's still one of those things that it was a still a pivotal game for me because while pokemon got me to love gaming Zelda ocarina of time made me want to do more it made me Like look what we're doing now, right? We're having these this look back on our early gaming experiences And we're just talking about game. We sit down here every single week just to talk about video games Zelda is what made me want to have conversations about video games not just play them Let's talk about it right and somehow talking about it can be almost as fun if not more fun than playing Yeah, and it's what's really weird with us too, especially because you and I can just sit down and talk about Whatever for hours on end. I mean After roller-chair ball, how many nights did we come come back to your place and Yeah, just sit down and talk I mean and that's always been the way it is with us But it's like even me like like I was I had a computer at a time and this was stuff like Zelda made me want to go on gaming forums And start talking to other people I made me want to start up like I enjoyed it so much Well, it's not that I enjoyed that game so much But I enjoyed it enough that I went back and started playing the other zelda games I had which was a link to the past and links awakening and realized how much I love them And then got into zelda too and legend of zelda stuff and that's like oh, man I love zelda. You know what there's this thing called geocities Let me try making a website and that got me into a whole new feel of stuff, but It's just Gaming's changed my life. Yep. I mean it has changed my life It's done a lot of things for me in terms of self-esteem Being there for me in dark times not that you weren't there for me and didn't have family and friends Yeah, but like there's that something about no matter how many people are there for you You're still always battling with yourself. Oh for sure when You're going through stuff. Someone could talk to you. They can hug you. They can do whatever But like no, they're not inside your head. You're inside your head. It might fix it for the moment Yeah, it might make you feel better for a little bit But like gaming like big big thing for me when I was younger as gaming was a huge escape Like the reason I had so many single-player games just escape from the goddamn world Like I was always out and about doing so many things as a kid And then also having you know the issues I have with my dad and then Just everything in general. It was so so nice. Like I think that's probably what happened like pokemon got me Like hooked on gaming and zelda took me out Of the real world and into this virtual world um And gave me that escape And that's what's so so great about like these earliest gaming memories because I don't really get these kind of feelings so much anymore Right, like I don't feel escapism anymore when I play games and it might just be because You know, I'm I don't have as vivid a vivid own imagination as when I was a kid Like I used to be able to pretend I was like a ninja turtle fighting against Yeah, for sure You know fighting against Darth Vader and stuff like that and the foot clan and when there's snow mountains outside I'm running out there pretending I'm in the battle on hoth and right Um, like it was I had a vivid imagination So that also helps with escapism is that I have an imagination But also when I'm older, I it's one of those things that um I don't feel like I should be escaping the games Right. Well, and it also I have too much response. I'm just gonna say it also doesn't help that you have little kids going Dad dad dad dad. Yeah, you can't really escape from that. Yeah. Yeah That's not going to say that I don't have moments when I just Forget about the world around me that almost happens when I watch movies more so than games Right, and it's not because gaming's gotten worse gaming's more immersive or I mean until they asked me to spend money Hey, can you buy this in my okay? What? All right What? I just want to get into the next match. I just want to get to the next level Why why you asked me to buy this hat? I don't care. Yeah, right Um, but as a story for another day, I guess we go on to the next time, you know Well, you got something to say before we go one other thing. We cannot mention gaming memories Without mentioning your pizza ovens That I mean, I know they're most useful because of gaming, but right Yeah, which one There's two of them. I know The ones where we'd either way we would sit and have to wait We we'd lose track of time we lose track of time. So we would forget it in the in the pizza oven So it would be pitch black. Yep. We'd still eat it, of course I'd still eat it today if I did that Um, and then there was the one pizza oven that we knew Halfway through you needed to rotate the pizza because there was a hotter zone. Um, and I mean Maybe one out of 15 pizzas we make we remember to do that. Yeah, right? And then we'd argue over who's gonna eat the burnt half And then we're like, well, we could just split it between. It's like, no No, you will leave it. Did you bring the pizza over or is this my pizza? Yeah, right? When we got a pizzazz our mind was blown. Yeah, right at your parents house. I think it was no It wasn't my parents. Yeah, the pizzazz didn't last very long. We broke it. Yeah The other pizza ovens are still alive and kicking. They're nice. They're still alive and kicking. There's a hot zone Yes, there are pieces of junk. No one uses them anywhere. I told my parents that you give them to me But I don't know they might be a fire hazard to be honest Yeah, at this point pizza ovens from the 90s. Um All right, no, I can move on now. We can move on to the next topic. Sorry. I had to bring up the pizza. It's all right Um, so though Oh, I'm guessing hold on. I'm guessing you were gonna ask them to share their game. Yeah Yeah, I was gonna say like what what's the earliest you guys got in the gaming What's like your first game you remember and then like what game got you guys hooked on gaming Or if you're not hooked on gaming like why if you're not hooked on gaming and you're watching this channel still and you're watching this podcast Why then no, no, no, no like what what keeps you playing games? Even though you don't consider yourself hooked like you don't feel like you have to play games But they're still like wouldn't you have a spare moment for like a half hour a week? Maybe you sneak a game in like what makes you want to do that? Um, you know just let let us know down in the comments below Uh Moving on or if like you're listening to audio version. I guess uh, there's no comments on that So email us at nathan. It's enterprise by that and let me know let me know your feelings on that Maybe we'll mention your comment in the next podcast Uh, you know, you can also do with an email you can submit fan topics We actually haven't had fan topics in a while. So Keep forgetting to promote that. Well A lot of times we have a lot of good topics So that's not a huge deal and this week we happen to have some great ones But yeah, if you guys have any fan topics, I mean you can do that at nathan at nathan or prime.net as well Just make sure the subject line is podcast fan topics very specific. So it doesn't get mixed in with my other emails Um, you could also leave fan topics in the comments on our youtube video version of this I don't always get to them But I do tend to at least for now read every single comment on youtube I'm telling you right now if we keep getting bigger and bigger. That's not going to be the case Because it's going to be impossible to read them all But that's why I highly suggest the email with that specific topic I will read it even if I get a thousand of them. I will read it can't guarantee your topic will be chosen But I will read it Uh, moving on now our second topic is uh Should we be worried about nathan's lineup for switch in 2018? Can you think of even one game you want on switch right now this year that's coming out this year? uh Payday two it's already out. I know but you said coming out this year Coming okay not past. Okay. Well, I know you want it. Yes, but it's five-year-old game. Yes. I know. I don't care I still want it. Okay. I mean it's fine. I want it too. That's why I have it right right well Yeah, no, I can't think of one not even one. No, we just put the Kirby demo today. Yeah Not not didn't do it for you. It's it's fun. It's Kirby. It's it's fun. It's a Kirby game But that demo I got done with it. It was like wait, that's it It's a demo. How much more do you expect? I know but it was more of a it was more of a confusion by The naming of the levels than it was the actual Well, it's it's hard because I think they just cherry picked a couple levels out of the game and just threw it at you No explanation no context right like the opening cutscene for the game is out there now. I haven't watched it yet I'm trying to avoid it. So until I get the game. But yeah, um, it's one of those things I think in context it would all make sense right without the context the harder level The harder level is called Uh cave and castle So I was expecting Two levels it was oh, it was only it was only one. Yeah, it was like one continuous easy one had two stages Yeah, it was like one continuous level. There was no like Boss fight in between either. So it was just kind of like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's no boss fighting me. That's good That's why I was like that wait. That's it. That was more of that was more of wait. That's it Well, anyways, anyways, that's not a game really forward to um, I mean it was fun If pokemon comes this year, is that one? Yes Because are you going to be like me and actually pick it up? Yes Like not not like you said you want payday too, but you're actually going to be there and pick it up day one Yes, pokemon. Yes, you're going to try to give it a chance again. Okay Good Not just good because like pokemon's popular and it gives us a lot to talk about but because I want us to have this journey together. Well, right try to see If we force ourselves up like 30 hours, even if we're not enjoying it try to get 30 hours at least beat the main story and See what it is that either made us start to love it again or made us realize This isn't this is why we don't like it now or right like because people always ask and i'm like look I can give all these reasons, but I honestly I haven't dived deep enough into one to really give you a concrete reason Uh, and I want this game to be so good I wanted to suck me in like gem one and gen two kind of did Question you think this is going to be like a reboot I don't know I honestly have no idea what the what they're planning I Almost wouldn't mind a reboot per se because they kind of did that with the anime series Like now, you know, even then they brought, you know, the one of the more recent movies You know pokemon i choose you is basically like a remake of the very first movie um So they're kind of sort of already doing that, but I don't know I think pokemon's just so huge now they can't reboot I don't know if they can it's so popular man Right, I know it's not one of those series where like it's starting to go down So it feels like let's reboot the whole thing. We're saying reboot because We're so far behind But like if we had played pokemon the whole time and loved it this whole time Would we really want it to be rebooted? I don't know it's You gotta remember everyone considers us gen one or so of course we want to reboot it. All right But uh No, I to me I just there's so many pokemon right now Yeah, that's not gonna go away. They're never gonna get rid of them. They're never gonna get rid of there's Well, I got conflicting numbers. Someone says seven hundred seventeen. Someone say eight hundred nine I don't know. I'll tell you when I get my when I get this pokemon. I switch it. I look at the polkadex Yeah, I mean either. All right. Yeah, there's somewhere between 700 800. I think somewhere in that area um, but to me it's just it's such a large game in so many pokemon that After a while, it's just kind of like All right I'm done. I just can't well that that's here's the thing though. That's because you have what people call The gen one or attitude and that is the gotta catch them all that hasn't been what pokemon's been about in 15 years Yeah, but That's what gen one was about gotta catch them all Obviously that was the damn big like beat the elite four and obviously become the champion But then besides that it was about getting every possible pokemon you can yeah, why wouldn't you want to? Um, completing the polkadex. Yeah, like that was actually one of the main things like professor oak told you the beginning of the game I need your help completing the polkadex. You need 151 pokemon to do that But at the time it was 150 to add at the 50 first 150 first level Yeah, it was mu. Yeah, mu is 151. Yeah, mu two is 150. So um But that but that's the thing we have that attitude and that's why I want to go in to pokemon on switch If it comes out this year Yeah, with the attitude that I'm erasing expectations I'm not going to go in thinking I gotta catch them all I'm not going to go in thinking I have to be a champion or I need all the gym badges I'm going to go into this like this is my first ever pokemon. You're not going to go in thinking you're going to be the very best Like no one ever was no I mean, I'll never forget the theme song the original theme song I never will and I might even sing it in a live stream or something again for like the fifth time Because I love that theme song so much, right, but the thing is is when I go into this game I'm going to try my damnedest to almost forget everything I know about pokemon and my memories about it and just go into this with like look I don't expect to catch them all. I don't expect to be a champion I want to go in like this is my first ever pokemon game and See what pokemon is now today because the problem you have like what you said is you're thinking of gen 1 You're not thinking of what pokemon is today because neither one of us are invested enough to know what it is today To us we hear 700 800 pokemon. We're like, well, we're never going to catch them all right and then One I'm gonna arc your mind even more some of those pokemon are only special event pokemon that you have to travel to specific places to get During specific time trains in specific days and then they never come back again You can get mad technically there was event pokemon in gen 1 too. Just say, you know, like you had to go to the pokemon movie and So like it's actually not new it existed when we were kids The difference is I think it was mu 2 or something or mu I think one one one of the best pokemon of the game was like behind it was the only event pokemon But it was extremely easy to glitch the game to get it because it was already in the game So like no Everybody glitched the game to get it like everyone. I glitched the game to get it. I never went to the event I glitched the game and got all 150 No, no, no game genie No, I didn't game genie it That's how I got my mu No, I didn't I I actually performed the glitch in the game No, I don't remember the cheat coded you cheat coder. That's okay. Everyone. He's game sharks and game genies back then Actually, I I had a game shark on SNES, but I didn't actually I didn't actually use the cheat the cheat things that much I know you were bigger into I remember going to stores and you buying them. I'm like you cheater I I remember didn't yeah, you bought a game genie and yeah Yes, you bought a game genie A game stop and I sat there and I looked at you and I'm like you are a bastard You are not a gaming purist. Yeah, I got so mad at you about it. I'm like So you like to cheat do we I notice like okay big daddy and age vampires And I'm just like that's part of the game. Yeah, I'd have to buy anything extra to do that. Yeah And it's all like I do that in online matches unless it's allowed. Yeah Yeah, and even then everyone's doing it who has the most big daddies go to town. Yeah, um anyways But yeah, uh besides obviously pokemon Um, because we don't know if that's coming this year, right? Uh, it's kind of one of those We are in march And it's really strange to think That we don't really know much of major games coming this year besides Like rereleases remasters dark souls is coming that excites me, but if you've played dark souls before maybe that's not a big deal to you Um, you know, we have higher warriors coming out definitive edition. Well, I've already bought it twice I don't really think I'm going to pick it up a third time. Right. Um, there is A band and a one and two that just came out earlier But again, I played that all and we you don't really feel like I need to pick it up right now Do I want to own all these things? Eventually sure if they ever get cheap enough that I'm willing to buy but That you know, they're charging like full price for some of this stuff and I'm like, no Yeah, um, even Kirby that they're charging a little cheaper for it. Still it's like it doesn't feel like it's worth What it's at least so far, right? I'm sure it's a fantastic game But it doesn't feel like it's worth like 50 bucks or no, no It should be like a it feels like it's 40 it should be a 30 3ds price game is what it feels like to me 40 bucks um And you know, you think about other games like we know Yoshi's coming eventually But again, Yoshi to me is like a just like another Kirby game where it's going to be really really damn good But it probably should just be 40 bucks, right? um, and then Uh, and I'm not just saying that because like I'm trying to put it down I'm like it's a 2d side scrolling platformer I'm sorry and those games those arms games aren't even if it was Mario I'd say it should be 40 bucks because these games don't cost a lot to make And they're definitely not at the same level as like an odyssey or a Zelda like that triple a price What is 60 should be saved for what is basically a triple a game, right? I don't I wouldn't consider a Kirby to be triple a be more so a beauty here This is like the tweener game. This isn't an indie game not quite a triple a game It's still really damn good, but it's not one of those high budget games that should be 60 bucks And then, you know, you dive deeper into the result. I mean fire emblem is supposed to come this year It was announced for 2018, but we still haven't seen it, right? Who knows if that got delayed We have no idea what's happening with metroid prime 4 that was announced Don't know if that's coming this year probably not maybe it is we don't know we literally don't know right um And beyond that there's just not a lot and I'm not putting out 2018 as being like we we need to be scared because e3 hasn't happened yet Once e3 comes and goes That's going to determine if this is Kind of a year, right? But the the thing is is it's so hard because last year they were hitting things so hard having into e3 Oh, right, you know think about it even though Uh, even though marty card 8 deluxe was a port it was still was like zelda marty card 8 deluxe and arms I believe All land no arms landed after e3 Man was it really just marty card 8 and zelda before e3 No, then again the console only lost in march. So like that's two and a half months until e3 was platoon in there Uh, splatoon 2 was july Right, but was that were they hitting that though? What were they hitting that yet? Splatoon 2 yeah, we knew it was coming. Yeah Well that that was one thing too like even though we maybe only had marty card 8 deluxe a port And zelda in terms of nintendo produced content the thing is is that we knew about arms We knew about splatoon 2 and we knew odyssey was coming And we also knew fire and memorials was coming as well Like we knew these all these other games were coming. We're at this point where We know kirby and yoshi And marty marty tennis aces is another one. No, we know that one's coming Besides that nothing else is really guaranteed to hit this share That we know about like yeah, we know pokemon exists. We know metroid exists We know the but all of these games before even zeno by chronicles 2 We knew before e3 last year all of them said they were coming out in 2017 The only one that we know for sure as a 2018 date Is fire emblem because when they announced fire emily said 2018 So you want to argue we know that's coming this year fine But we don't know pokemon because it says 2018 or later Metroid prime is still tba. So for all we know that's not coming at all this year um You know we have rumors about smash out there and like the thing is we just don't know It's really weird to be i mean nintendo labo. I guess I shouldn't discount nintendo labo But I think a lot of current switch owners Are gonna not gonna care as much about labo as potential future switch owners or parents. We're looking for the next Nintendo driven triple a game. Yes. That's a good way to put it. It doesn't have to be mario By the way mario and zelda aren't the only ones they have right They have other ones. It's just when is it coming right, you know fire emblem could very well be it Right, but we haven't seen it. We don't know if it's gonna hit We don't know if it's gonna go that step beyond echoes and awakening a 3ds like echoes and awakening were 40 games So for this to be 60, it's gotta be that next level right, you know, is it gonna be animal crossing? It's gotta be next level over new leaf and over a pocket camp like We just don't know It sucks. We just don't know could you imagine animal crossing in in like the uh breath of the wild setting Just a wide open holy crap That'd be too that's too big There is such thing as too big for animal All right, um But yeah, I doesn't I'm not I'm Skeptical, I think it's a better way to put it for 2018 I'm excited about a lot of the ports like dark souls. I haven't played payday 2 I hadn't played so I got it But there's also all those ports coming from Nintendo. I played I can go on tropical freeze. I played Yeah, I played all these games, right? So There are fantastic games and for people who didn't own wi-yu. I highly suggest you buy them But for me, yeah, I'm one of those. I own the wi-yu So now I'm not I'm not that excited yet. I can be I we're going to go to what we're hoping we go to e3 and It blows our minds and all this great stuff happens and we get all this great content and and we're Excited, but I'm still just at this point now when I'm like, I'm just skeptical right now because for it looks like the first six months The biggest title is going to be Kirby and mario tennis All right, and Yoshi If you don't even know if Yoshi's coming. That's true in the first six months. That's true. Yeah Do we have an early estate for aces? No, no, okay, they're amazon spain has it listed for june 22nd, but again, that's amazon, so right, right, yeah but Either way it was recently announced in timmo direct, so The only reason why i'm worried is because It just feels like it's petering out to me, I mean not in a sense of Not the content. I mean the amount of games. Oh, yeah, there's tons of games, right, right? It's it's the lack of the Big punch. Yeah, well, here's the thing like I'm I'm not sitting here telling you that I'm losing faith in the switch or like no momentum. Here's the thing I have a huge backlog of games. I don't even own yet that I need to buy Uh, so I'm I'm on content overload still from 2017, right? There's still so many games I need to get I still money games. I own it's need to finish still need to finish You know like chronicles too as an example. Mm-hmm golf story even like there's so many games. I still need to finish but That's because 2017 was so jam-packed that while I'm thankful about the slowdown now that's letting me catch up it's still one of those things that What do I prefer a slowdown that lets me catch up or be an extra hype for another huge release Like here's the thing to be honest. Here's the deal The games that I'm super hyped for those are the games I beat already honestly zelda Yep, so tune to right like I destroyed those games the games on my backlog are obviously not the games that I was as hyped for Right, so like that big like golf story. I love it And I know I'm savoring it But it's still one of those things that if I was as hyped for it as Odyssey I would wreck that game in a weekend, right? but That's the thing like that's the thing about that next major game is the next major game is not really going to Determine me from my back catalog because I'm gonna Take three hardcore days and just destroy that bad boy drop 70 hours into it not sleep and be done Right, basically I mean the only reason I'm even revisiting odyssey right now is because I decided that I want to do a live stream series Where I try to 100 and get all the moons um I don't think I'm ever gonna tell you guys right now. I'm probably never gonna get all the moons. Yeah, but I'm trying It's uh hard to get I think it's actually actually maxed out at 999 so like I I at least want to unlock all the worlds. I don't know. I don't even know the world Well a lot of the moons aren't that hard to get yeah, I know but still but And that's actually kind of what I've heard some of the knocks is that some of odyssey is that there's so many moons Oh, just wait I've been working on a little bit of a script. Yeah my next like editorial video about um I'll just give me the hate now about why mario plus rabbits kingdom metal is a better game than odyssey And the thing is is like they're both fantastic games and the maybe people that don't have an issue with that But there's a lot of people that like they hate rabbits so much It's blasphemy to say that any game of rabbits and it's better than odyssey. Yeah, I'm telling you It's better. Yeah. Well, here's the thing I always say the caveat is of course there are different types of games right talking about a 3d platformer A masterpiece 3d platformer that right, you know in compared to a tactical strategy game, right? Like they're they're not in the same genre So I can understand not comparing, but I'm sorry. I love both genres and one is better than the other right Um, and if you don't agree you probably haven't played it Shouldn't say that I shouldn't say that but but anyways, it's actually some working on obviously It's highly opinionated, but it's going to bring up arguments on both sides Right, um and let you know like why I'm leaning one way and it's it's going to end in the hole It's okay. If you don't agree with me kind of thing, you know, like odyssey is that good Yeah, I'm not saying that either one of these games are terrible Anything I think mario plus revs kingdom metal is just really underrated right I think it got overshadowed when odyssey came out and people just forgot just how good kingdom metal is um So yeah, again though, that's the thing like we're talking about these games for 2017 and even we don't even have a kingdom Metal on the horizon, right? You know it's I mean the dlc. I guess right. It's just it feels like that there's a void right now Well, nintendo had like the perfect mix last year. They're not going to have that every year But like big title at launch big title in the summer big title in the fall Right, okay And they had a bunch of titles in between they had like their arms. You can say that's like a curvy or something Like right like they had zelda and mario kart 8 deluxe. I understand port whatever So you can say if they bring smash this year smash port that equals right great, right? Yeah, fine But you have you had zelda and then you get splatoon 2 and I know some people like on splatoon 2 like splatoon 2 Is probably over 6 million copies sold at this point, right? I'm sorry. Splatoon 2 is now officially one of nintendo's biggest IPs So that's a major game in the middle of summer. Oh for sure That is a huge that that's that's creeping up on power of mario kart and animal crossing and heck You know zelda 6 million go look up the sales of zelda games and like Splatoon 2 is right there. Yeah, um, and then odyssey like those three huge titles pace the year And then in between we still got excellent ones like kingdom battle and warriors and arms and mario kart 8 and Even though it was a port whatever minecraft even was like kind of a big deal when it came out because minecraft is just big Um rocket league. Yeah, linoar skyrim doom And you know, I don't have a problem with with Right with I don't have a problem with like filler time being with ports and stuff like that Because that's that's that's when they probably should be but brought out I like the ports when there's major releases happen in the for sure Like I think people will be less concerned about all of the wii u ports happening in the first half of this year If there was a huge hitting right and maybe they think Kirby's apple And the thing is not systems right no if they could shoot For three major games in a year And then just fill the rest of the time With with ports and some some higher end. Yeah higher in low games. Yeah, you know what I'm saying Well, like not triple a but not you know ports. I think what people Uh, and some people say well no company can do that I understand that you were asking a lot of one company to pull this up. But here's here's my deal with this I'm sorry But I guarantee you most of their 3ds teams are making switch games now So if they have double the amount of developers working on switch games, there should be double the amount of games So to me that means there should be two to three heavy hitters Every year and we still guys remember we're only at the beginning of the third month of the year We still could get three big hitters right right. No, we could end up with smash Yeah, we could end up with metroid and we could end up with pokemon all this year It could have we could eat an animal crossing right we could still have this half. It just feels weird that it's There's nothing announced probably happening all in the second half It doesn't feel it feels like an unbalanced right year after they just have one of the most balanced years I think in gaming history. Oh for sure and You know, and I'm not even saying it has to be a nintendo triple a game Just something some sort of big game not a port. Yeah. Yeah new game But a new game it not even that's it not even a tender has to be But something big release the wonderful 102 Hey, there you go. Why not that that would be more a mid-tier game, right? But you know kind of like like like no more heroes coming out again Travis does not expect it doesn't matter. That's that's again another mid-tier game Bayonetta 3 Right that would that that I'd that we consider that triple a and that's exclusive to switch and that's made by platinum So yeah something big like that but Bayonetta 3 again What's the thing like we just talked about three major games like we talked about metroid Metroid's on a system seller, right? It's really weird. It's a high budget game But it does it only sells a couple million right usually But I think there's a stigma to it that it feels it feels bigger than a Kirby game Because I think it's more expensive to make than a Kirby game It takes more time to make it and I do feel well It's not like it's not a system seller in that it's moving millions of units But you know what anyone who loves metroid buying a system to play that metroid. Oh for sure Yes, the fan base is small, but for that one month. It's out You could see 500k extra sales for switch that month because it's like it's a system seller for the month it comes out It's not like zelda and mario and and animal crossing where Pokemon where it's system seller for months and months and months right, but It is one of those games in like in the small time frame will make any difference Whereas like you release a Kirby Kirby very warm might even outsell metroid But it's just going to be people who already own the switch right I I personally feel right and I might try to put down The Kirby fan base there might be Kirby fans are like do I'm buying a switch because of Kirby? That's fine. No, that's great It's just still one of those things that it just doesn't it doesn't have that feel to it I guess we'll see it's releasing this month. We'll see a switch get the big boost in sales Because it's the Kirby is probably the biggest game to release on switch from nintendo this year Okay, yep so far. I'm trying to even think back. I can't think of any other things on xenoblade chronicles 2 So it'll be the biggest game to launch from nintendo as a publisher this year Um And we'll see if that makes a difference in march. Maybe it will. Maybe I'm underestimating the power of Kirby. I don't know. I could be It's just brand new. Yeah, at least they're charging 50 bucks and it's not payday two, which is five years old Right. Yeah, yeah, that's that's and here's the thing. That's I want to tell you not to buy it But I bought it. Yeah, so it's like I'm part of the problem And I'll probably end up buying it too. I'm part of the problem Especially if you can find that 27 dollar deal on amazon primary for sure like I'm actually kind of mad that I didn't see it that I would have wanted that instead of Whatever, you know what? I wanted to have the patience. I really wanted for I really wanted it so bad And I got the final copy. They had a game stop. So Um And people like, oh you live in games. Yeah, yeah, because like a bonus reward points, baby. Yeah I probably could I actually paid the I probably have enough reward points I'm probably gonna bought the game with the reward points. I really should look at my account again I have a lot of reward points picked up um So, yeah, I guess I guess the for top of two. I guess my family I'm just skeptical until they prove up me. They give me a reason not to be right Where everyone's waiting for that big direct or that big e3 moment where they ease our minds I think nintendo's in coast mode right now And they can afford to be because odyssey's that good because zelda's that good because platoon 2 is that good They had so many heavy hitters they can coast on those for like six months But they from june on they better hit us hard right no for sure once eat I mean e3 for sure um all right, so We talked a little bit about these briefly, but uh What are your feelings on rumors now three For to give you an idea we have three more recent rumors over the last month, right? One's that band and apco's making metro plan for yeah, whether it was singapore and all the japanese city or whatever Um band and apco making metro plan for uh, then we have another rumor that smash bros Basically, it's a we use such 3ds port with with new content It's going to get announced that it's going to get announced no more like mario kart 8 deluxe Okay, the deluxe is mario kart 8 with new content. They had the whole new battle mode blah blah blah. Yeah Um, so it'd be more akin to that except smash bros is combining 3ds and we u versions together But isn't that what higher warriors did? Yeah, I guess if you want to get technical like that, but they're not really adding any new content Okay, they just added a couple costumes like they're talking about content Which probably means like ice climbers right like maybe the inklings these new characters new stages. Maybe a new mode, etc Okay, um, which is why I like in the market deluxe, but they actually added battle mode right and stuff like that Anyways, so I guess it's a combination of both ideas. Yeah Anyways, that's supposed to get an lcd 3 coming out this year Uh, and then pokemon switch. Uh, there's been some hiring Listings out there for localizers So people assume it's being localized right now Um, so those are kind of the rumors out there, but setting even setting those rumors aside Uh, we talk about rumors at antenna prime pretty frequently. I'd say, you know Anytime it's a rumor that I feel is From a source that gives me enough faith to believe there's a chance it could happen We talk about it right and I'm actually curious because I only ever really talked to myself about it And myself always is an agreement right, so I want to ask you Like what I hope you would disagree with yourself. What are your feelings on rumors? Good bad otherwise Rumors can be fun In what way in what way a rumor can be can be It it's it's fun It to a certain point even if they're not right Even if they're not whatever it's still fun to think, you know, what happens if this actually does happen You know kind of kind of opening your imagination Kind of thinking oh, that's a good idea. I hope this happens or Man, that's a terrible idea. Good. God. I hope that doesn't happen It it's great in the at least it gets you thinking And and hoping and wishing Whether it's true or not That that is one thing I do like about rumors. Okay is it actually allows you to think about games, you know Gets discussion going sure The part that sucks about rumors is when it's Wrong and everybody picks it up And acts like it's true It's when people start taking rumors as truth Without any definitive background And proof that it it is true Well, then I suppose it wouldn't be a rumor, but so I'm going to give you A common argument that I hear against rumors Some people will say that they don't like rumors Because a lot of the rumors that that that people end up caring about are obviously game announcements, right? Um Like smash hasn't been announced. So it's a big deal that there's a rumor that smash might be happening um The thing is is and by the way smash has happened either way port new game It's obviously in development somewhere. It's too big of a franchise not to be but I look at it as or I guess this is the argument that they tell me they tell me We don't like rumors because It affects the people who are making the game's ability to surprise us. Let me give you an example Mario plus rabbits kingdom battle Right before e3 hit we had that huge leak Didn't know 100% if it was true, right just a rumor, but it was a leak at the arch or mario the gun arm cannon And then it'll be in really really fun and admittedly I still think most people were surprised when we saw the game right but Would we have been more surprised? If it would have had been more hype would we would the announcement have been more impactful if we didn't even know anything about We didn't even know the game existed Because that game was rumored to exist for like six plus months, right? So it was one of those things if we never knew that mario plus rabbits crossover game was coming And they just announced it at e3 out of nowhere Like it was a surprise to see me a moto come out with ube so It was a surprise to see him holding an arm cannon. It was surprised to see mario rabbits together, right? Like I felt like by e3. We were over the surprise Even though it was still just a rumor, right? So it's one of those things where Their argument is won't these announcements be better if we didn't know about them before they happened That's it. That's like People get madman don't talk about rumors because you're ruining how they want to like Everyone else is already talking about it. So don't blame me. Exactly. Yeah, I'm not just going to ignore something that's already happened, right? No for sure um Yes and no, um I get their point. I really do yes, it does it does blow but at the same point in time You should still be surprised If the rumor is confirmed, I mean But they're usually not My mario plus rabbit kingdom battle basically everyone thought it was a real thing before e3 happened Yeah, so people weren't so they were surprised by how good it looked But they weren't surprised that it existed right But there's still some sense of Surprise and I know but I mean they're arguing I guess the argument is like say smash bros gets announced at e3 Yeah, people are expecting it to be announced at e3 now. Yeah They're expecting it to be a we you in 3ds port Yeah So it kind of ruins They're talking about ruining the surprise where They're basically talking about say we went into e3 We didn't know anything the nintendo was doing right Everything would be a huge announcement then there won't be as much disappointment And oh, they didn't announce this because the rumors might end up being better than what reality is true Like true the disappointments ripped away. You just get stuck with here's all the surprises I also have to have the caveat It is a rumor So what it is a rumor, but it affects how people think you can never assume a rumor is true unless it's confirmed No, but but here's the thing You you talked about, you know the bad thing when the rumor ends up being false and blah blah blah Here's the thing for starters most rumors aren't are false right, but Beyond that rumors create a sense of hype We see this with nintendo directs a lot Well, a bunch of rumors going into a nintendo direct and then the direct can't live up to the rumors So a lot of people leave disappointed And that's why so a lot of people get mad that why are we even talking about rumors? When all it ends up doing is actually creating a negative attitude around what actually is announced Like when mario tennis aces was one of the biggest announcements in that last direct That upset people they were expecting something bigger right because of rumors. Yeah I get it But you can't tell me keep in mind I I actually love rumors. So I'm just trying to present your guys's arguments you've given to me over the years No, I get it. I get it and I I understand where they're coming from I the thing is is is you can't tell me that you're not sitting there at home And in thinking about this stuff like what is the tend to going to do next? What is this going to do? What is that? Yes, but there's a difference between You having a wish list like when I go on the e3. Well, we'll make we'll have a video about Predictions or like wants and desires. We do it every year. Yeah, you know either a podcast or a separate video or whatever We'll have something, you know, might even be bad in special. I don't know what it's going to be Don't know what it's going to be yet. We haven't gotten that far ahead But when we figure it out, there's going to be that thing where we just guess what we want to happen right and That's different between You just guessing without any idea and you being like oh, but I've heard x y and z so now I expect At least two out of the x y and z's And if you don't get the two out of the x y and z you can argue it's your fault for expecting it But you would have never expected it if the rumors didn't exist So whose fault is it the people giving the rumors or is it you for Trying to put any stock in it because what'll happen is you might hear about the room Be like oh, it's bs, but then all of a sudden one of the rumors comes true And you're just like well, okay. I thought it was bs, but And it's true so now that makes you more hype for the next batch of rumors here the next batch Like everyone gets sucked in. Yeah, no, I know even if you want to say you don't Trust me if you heard about a rumor and then it ended up being true The next time you hear a rumor you're going to be a little less skeptical about it, right? Until it slips in the face again, and then you're like, oh, yeah, it's a rumor. It's a repeating cycle Right. No, no, I don't again and then all of a sudden another rumor is true I don't know like I know but you got to realize that though That's the thing is you have to realize That rumors are just that the rumors They a lot of times they will be false you cannot get your hype up over it Just because you know something may or may not happen. You got to realize it may or may not happen So the way I look at it one obviously I like rumors Multiple reasons. I like rumors one. I can't deny they give me lots of views Rumors are very very good for viewership if there's a quality rumor out there that from a trustworthy source And I make a video about it people care So like there also is that level of interest in the media where we're like, yeah, we know people want to hear about this stuff right But beyond that be it beyond the whole selfish reasons that you might like rumors as a media personality because Brings more attention to your channel or your video or your article or your facebook post or tweet or whatever Um heart I guess instagram at this point. I I got to start gramming a lot of people on instagram I gotta give that a little bit. Yeah, well, it's a lot of it's not so much that it's uh It'd be more of a compliment It's kind of like twitter we're like i'm out in the bottom of my game side We just snap pick. Hey look, I just picked up payday two. Yeah, you just throw it throw it up in instagram Like yeah, it's just a great way to extra communication level that you're just not going to get on youtube Yeah, but the thing is is I I talked we talked about this briefly before that point Where when I played ocarina of time it made me care about having conversations about games And what's nice about rumors and what not that we need them for this to happen But rumors drive conversation about games forward We spend a lot of time. I mean at least I think I try to spend a lot of time talking about games that have already released Or games. We know that are coming But to me one of the most exciting things to talk about is the unknown and that's what rumors are the rumors provide you A direction to talk about the unknown, right? um You know, we never even had a conversation about like do would Do we think ben and amko can make a good metro game? That wouldn't even be a conversation We would have if there wasn't a rumor for it right And we're not going to have the conversation this week because i'm going to wait for a guest who really wants to talk about metro at first But that's fine. Well, I mean, you know me you guys know when I when I have a very pointed topic like that I like to bring in an expert Right. Oh, yeah, you know at least someone who knows a lot more about the topic than I do right as an example I really want to have this one conversation about pokemon, but i'm going to wait till we bring the expert on Maybe even multiple experts. We'll see but This is just one of those situations. I think where My personal desire to have these conversations um Kind of clouds my judgment a little bit at times right um because sometimes a rumor might be a little fishy But I'll still talk about it because I want it to be true right And that's part of me like just being a fan. I can't help that uh, but Then there's also like for me personally I have like that responsibility because people come to me for news And even though I don't label it as news and just label it as a discussion and rumor and like even saying that That it's likely not true. It doesn't matter people saw the headline They trust me And it ruins my reputation as well, which is I mean kind of dumb well It isn't it isn't because we know that people headline hunt I know that people watch my videos based on the headline based on the thumbnail Yeah, so like if the headline and the thumbnail are talking about something crazy like um The next halo games coming exclusively to switch That's what my headline is That'd be impressive And all and even if I put rumor on it, right? I put rumor at the start of the beginning That headline is going to draw in Probably 50,000 people. Yeah And even if I state several times that I do not believe this rumor some microsoft ip there's no way in hell They're not this happened But then again microsoft doesn't have a portable machine and they might see an audience or something I don't like I'll come up with reasons why it could be true It'd be one of those things where It's going to ruin the reputation of my place because people believed me because they trust me They see that headline and they're like, oh my god, he wouldn't be reporting on this rumor if it wasn't a good chance of being true Yeah And all I really did was brought it up. So I could talk about it, right And that's what sucks about my youtube entity is like I put up a vlog the other day. Yeah, right um about Uh, it was on pokemon day, uh, you know Whatever the day the pokemon came out 22 22nd year anniversary. They had a bunch of events stuff going on And I went out and I caught the event thing on pokemon go Um recorded the video recorded video in the car like where my son was asking to play mario odyssey when we got home Told you I love that game um and then uh It recorded myself talking to uh That's not like talking to my google home Yeah, uh because they for that day let you to let you ask pikachu questions Nice So like I made this whole vlog about all this stuff and yeah, I didn't get a lot of views I didn't think it was because vlogging is not what my channel is about But like some of you in the comments are like shouldn't this be on a different youtube channel And it's like well no because it's about nintendo and I do what I want Right that's that's my attitude to the run like I do what I want but like there What happens is because I have the show not like prime news Um because I've been reporting on news people expect my channel to just be a That's what I do. I I don't bring up anything unless it's news And and and it kind of sucks that you get stuck in this rut where yeah, you get pigeon-toed I do more than just news on my channel. I have my argument with myself video. I released I have my discussion videos. I have this podcast isn't news um and It makes me Sometimes not want to have the conversations I want to have because I'm afraid that headline is going to screw me And the thing is people are like well just don't make the headline that Yeah, just like make it some bullshit that Is whatever and not necessarily about the topic so you could talk about it And then my only response is but then no one's gonna watch and the whole point of me making it I don't want to make videos like the vlog. I didn't think a lot of people were gonna watch But the vlog is something that that I think is more for the core audience Like the the vlog exists For the hardcore nintendo prime audience They're the people that give a shit about what's going on in my life, right? Yeah, so like it's for them It's not for the people who watch all my news videos or watch these podcasts It's for the people that care about me as a person probably it's probably the best way to put it So it's always going to be a low view one and it might grow over time Potentially it could bring in more and more people who care You know, we're not going to be cnd over here We're not going to be a Logan Paul but Or even jake paul or any paul or ksi or rice gum or god the whole the whole mess of people But It's just it's fun. It's something different and what what I like about the vlog thing And and this is why I even did it in the first place is because I've been so busy lately What's the easiest way for me to get a piece of content out? Well, I could just record some shit going on in my life, right? As it's happening because I can't be in my office, right and then I turn it into a video at the end of the day Um, it's really I understand now why vlogging is kind of become this big thing because You basically just live your life and record parts of it and put it together I get it. I get why people vlog. I don't get why people enjoy watching vlogs But I understand why people how people came to do vlogs, right? Um, but even then like again, it's another piece of content that's not like my news and I always worry with rumors that I have to tread so lightly That I have to avoid conversations up. I mean I I say avoid I try to bring it to the podcast where I feel like it's everyone knows More open forum right from from the moment they hit play. Okay. Okay. This is a discussion thing Right, this is all discussion. This is rumors But the headline still is sometimes started in a way that kind of makes them be like, oh wait They're talking about metro prime rumors. They're talking about gaming memories. They're talking about This news report about switch like Turning in for the news like I've had people say oh, I watch your podcast for the news every week and I'm like I mean we talk about news, but the the point of the podcast is the discussion not the actual news, right? Um Because I already reported on the news if you wanted the news. I already did that right Go go watch my prime news like now the prime news is new But go watch prime news every day five days a week like that that'll give you all the news You need the monday show is going to be crazy if a bunch of news hits over the weekend because I'm gonna have a whole weekend With the news recap. Thankfully nintendo usually doesn't have news hit over the weekend, but yeah Could happen. It sometimes things get crazy. We've had nintendo directs land on sundays. So let's just Okay Right, um, that'd be that would suck every time a time. I it feels like almost like half the time I'm in the middle of a live stream something big news hits and I'm like, uh, should I stop the stream? You know what guys let's just play games. Let's not talk about the news Great I don't know. I mean I'm trying to understand everyone's aside on this but my personal opinion. I just love discussing potential futures of things That's that's my thing is people got to stop Taking rumors is 100 true It's not it's not I don't think it's not that people take it as 100 true It's that rumors create a I guess a false sense of hope Regardless of if you think it's true people a lot of people say it's not that we 100 believe a rumor, right? It's that it makes us want to believe it gives us hope And when that hope is crushed it sucks Yeah But you you also got to know that with rumors though too is that there is a chance But it's a big it's emotional. It is it is you can't take emotions out of people. No, I know That's what that's the thing like if you this is the one argument I always understand against rumors is If there is no rumor giving you hope The only person you can blame if you feel like you're disappointed is yourself, right when announcement time's coming around Because there was no false promises out there false hopes about what's gonna happen So maybe you could still be disappointed that it that nothing was announced to you like and that's fine But at least you didn't go in expecting there to be something announced that you liked Whereas the rumors will be like, oh man, you should expect smash or you should expect this or you should expect that Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah like people a lot of people are gonna go to e3 that you're expecting a smash announcement And if all we end up getting announced is like an animal crossing which would be pretty big Um, but like animal crossing is their big game. They don't announce pokemon come in this year They don't announce metroid. Uh, and the other big game game isn't even smash it say it's pikmin 4 And like they give us that and I don't know maybe maybe they announce, um Maybe they have a castlevania game. Maybe they partnered with cap kind of castlevania game coming or something. Yeah, it's like that's it But there was nothing on the level of smash. There was nothing on the level of pokemon There's nothing on the level of metroid and we all were expecting this stuff instead are the best game coming to This year's animal crossing and the thing is we have these expectations because of what the three rumors are just listed Yeah, no, I know they're creating expectations. Yeah, even if people are like, yeah, but we don't really believe it But we want it to be true Right and they wouldn't necessarily want it to be true if they weren't being given The hope of it being true that rumors create hope right And the thing is as much I get hyped about rumors too I really do like a big rumor comes out say like emily rogers A lot of people give me flak about emily rogers, but she's got a lot of stuff right. She's gotten a lot of stuff wrong So I would say any rumors she throws out is a 50 50 prospect 50 50 prospect is really damn high in rumor bill Yeah, like most people when they throw out rumors, it's like 99 fake. They're just making it up Right, but the fact that she's half true half wrong means she's not really making it up She's getting information. Just not everything comes out as planned Games get canceled projects get moved on blah blah like like things happen in issues So when you got 50 50 she throws out a rumor I really want to be true like like say before e3 comes out emily rogers mentions Hey, so uh, there's a new zelda game being made and it's gonna get announced at e3 My part of me is gonna say bullshit We just got one last year Right the other part of me is gonna remember twilight princess got announced the e3 after When waker came out so it's gonna be like no I've done this before Mm-hmm So my hype level is gonna go way up here and then when the best analysis animal crossing i'm gonna be like That's a disappointing e3 Yeah, and the thing is it would be a disappointing e3 I think most of us would agree animal cross now that nothing needs animal cross But if that was it if that was the top game animal crossing and pikmin as awesome as those games are like if that's it Yeah, it would be disappointing anyways But it's even more disappointing when you start expecting something that you might not have expected otherwise Like if a rumor comes out about a zelda game that you threw I would have thought the thought of a new zelda game getting announced e3 never crossed my mind till the rumor happened right You know the thought of smash bros coming out this year never crossed my mind really until the rumor happened So it's kind of like this is the it's I think this is just a tough Yeah, I mean really I should be throwing this out to you guys because it's you guys that have these issues right like I I understand because I've been disappointed because rumors weren't true and I've been excited because rumors were true But uh in general I try not to let rumors affect my overall opinion on something right like when I was disappointed By the last Nintendo direct a little bit Um, it was just mostly because they just announced games. I mostly played It wasn't because of the rumors heading in it was just based on the direct itself at the same time I might have been the most hyped person in the world when mario tennis aces was announced I don't know if I've seen anyone else get it as excited I made a whole video saying mario tennis aces saved the direct And everyone's like what do you mean mario tennis aces saved? I'm like, oh, it's really pathetic when it's a mario tennis. I'm like no Do you remember mario tennis made by camo back in the day? Oh my dude It was like every level is to me as good as pokemon. Oh, yeah It was just insanely amazing like like people don't get that right get might get why I'm hyped for it I think it's I don't think it's gonna be as good as that one But I'm gonna hold on hope. I don't think it's an rpg. That's the thing. I don't it's got a single player campaign I don't think it's an rpg, but still it's a step in the right direction for me with It's like the the one thing mario sports games needed to do was take single player seriously They're at least doing that um, and The thing is I don't expect people to be as like I get it most people don't give a crap about mario mario sports games so I don't know I guess I love rumors I'm gonna keep reporting on it. So if you are someone who doesn't like rumors, maybe we're not gonna be the channel for you I'm sure I'm sure you can find a nintendo channel out there that refuses to talk about rumors Um, I'm sure. No, I'm sure. Sure. There's there's anything if there isn't and you just want nintendo news And don't want the stuff go make go make that youtube channel that only takes the facts does not look at any rumors or Uh, even like the cryptic tweet from the oblo about the or they had a glowing uh diablo 3 head on Light switch and they were turning it off and on off and on off and on which seems to be a cryptic thing towards switch Still technically factually towards switch, right? It's all speculative Right, so like you won't want to talk about that because that's like a rumor, right? It's a rumor started by blizzard, but it's still like a rumor So a rumor started by fans, I guess because again, it could be nothing. Maybe they're releasing the oblo 3 light switch covers Yeah, right. I mean, yeah, literally. That's all it could be. Yeah Um, it'll be the to me. That'd be like the greatest troll of all time. That would be hilarious Oh anyways, uh, that's one of those last topic because it's It's one that um Goes against what I thought nintendo was gonna do Uh, so yeah, the topic says nintendo apparently was going to wait a long time for a switch revision We're talking about the actual physical hardware that you hold in your hands Um, so the joy cons and the actual tablet, uh, and it says they want to expand sales with peripherals uh, and What is the right time and what sort of revisions do we want is kind of the question We're gonna have and then what sort of peripherals can drive sales until then But let's get right into the quotes. Uh, these come from takahashi machizuki. Now he is um, one of the Japanese reporters for Wall Street Journal And uh, he has contacts aside nintendo. He goes to all the financial briefings And generally when he reports on something that granted you could bring up the fact he reported on the netflix rumor Uh for nintendo way back when and that ended up like being nothing But again, kind of like the emily roger situation Doesn't mean there wasn't a discussion involving netflix and nintendo Right exactly. Um, and plus castlevania ended up coming out. I know that's not nintendo But it's still one of those things where it's like, you know, these things are always a process in the back end um So You want to read his quotes here about uh, this is what he had to say This is translated by the way He he actually usually puts this stuff in english, but he was tweeting in japanese and this got translated by someone All right from his twitter Uh, the people familiar said expanded switch features in the coming year could also include additional network related features and peripherals to be attached to its usbc port Next quote, uh, but they said that said changes to the switch itself Like a similar or smaller version of the machine were unlikely this year As the tendos focuses on better manufacturing and shipping of the current model And an investor briefing in february, mr Mr. Kimashima and The nintendo ceo Said he wanted to make the switch product cycle longer Then the five to six year span that's become customary into the video game console industry One person familiar with development plans said waiting longer to introduce variations in the hardware would serve that purpose So here's my my my thought process first off Because he only talks about this year. I don't think this there was Waiting longer wouldn't include this year because this year I mean, it's not like we got new nintendo 3ds year two of 3ds Like no, you're probably year three or four So if there's not a revision this year, but there is next year that's still on pace with what nintendo has been doing Right So the fact that um, they said that one person was familiar with the development plans So they want to wait longer that to me tells me it's not going to be a revision next year either We're going to be looking at year four year five somewhere in there finally where you get either the switch mini Which I don't think should exist but whatever if it does it does or uh switch xl or a new nintendo switch with Take the x2 or whatever So there's that That's what I get from this anyways. It technically only says a year, but I think A year wouldn't mean anything. It has to be more than that for this to matter two what actually gets me and this This makes me curious about this this holiday because it says people familiar with Said the switch features in the coming year could also include additional network related features and peripherals to be attached to the usb type c port There's only two things that I know of that attached to the usb type c port Things that charge your switch like power banks battery banks or actual, you know, cord in the wall And the dock right And it's going to be network related features and peripherals So they finally putting a network port well a network port a new a new dock with network port Would that make sense? or with the east of the port but I'm thinking when they talk about additional network features and peripherals to be attached to usb type c port Are we talking about an external gpu dock? Possible Because that would not involve a hardware revision That would just be a separate dock purchase for like 150 200 bucks And you put it in there and even if it doesn't necessarily boost your games That could be where they could start to claim. Hey by the way switch does 4k netflix switch does That does does all for all the work like maybe maybe like no, but here's the thing Right, maybe that's why they're not doing netflix. Yeah, because hulu doesn't have 4k Netflix does yeah amazon does so they could be like look we are not launching these services because we're launching it alongside as a promotional tool For a 4k dock that works And then switch games are just upscaled the 4k, but there's not actually more powerful It's just the internal just the internal upscaler the same one they're using for the 4k stuff, right? That's what I get out of this is this holiday They're planning something huge like that and it's not going to be bundled with a switch Because they're not going to want that $400 price point to get hit Or $500 price point or whatever they're not going to want that on the market They're still going to sell it with the standard dock, but they're they're going to have this whole netflix tv push with this dock Maybe even somehow get it bundled in with certain tv's that are discounted on black Friday Yeah Yeah, I mean I I'm just thinking of ways they can promote it But like that's what I I know part of that's a hope and a desire another part of that is They're talking about peripherals that are attached to the usbc thing right There's only two things that are attached to it or are they coming out with some sort of really slim battery pack to extend your battery life Those already exist anyway, so it's it's like I don't know just How's that going to extend the longevity of switch and increase sales by releasing like To me when you're talking about increasing sales, it's got to be something like label as an example that could increase sales I don't know for sure. That's not attaching to the usbc port you're putting your thing in cardboard Yeah, so it's making use of the switch. Well, it's making use of the switch in unique ways But that's not specific to the usbc port specific the usbc has the ability for external gpus. Yeah so it's like They they had a patent way back when about external computing devices So it's kind of like it's all starting to come together to me here like they are actually going to do something with that There's been rumors that in the manufacturing side. They actually developed a 4k dock Yes that went out to some developers. It's just not you know public or anything And it's kind of like all this is certain comfortable servers like nintendo might have been planning to do this the whole time And while it doesn't they didn't what they didn't want it to do Was necessarily provide so much extra power to the switch That it's when you basically when you take a portable the games just don't run right So what they're doing instead is like look we're going to enable 4k media playback and We're going to allow your games to get like visually boosted visually boosted to a 4k resolution But we're not going to affect the gameplay itself the gameplay performance like it's still going to be 30 fps We're not going to boost it the 60 right or whatever We're not going to use it in that way because it's not going to be like we're putting a gtx 10 60 And they're just talking about an upscaling soft like upscaling hardware Hardware upscaling that's better than your tv Um that enables native 4k. That's like like native 4k next was huge for me Right, I would love that but um So it's that that that's what I see now My other thought process is is there any other peripherals you could see besides that that would push sales for years You know, I mean we we motion plus back in the day could be argued that was kind of one that maybe Because it made better and that wasn't I was a peripheral I could see them expanding on The lab idea Okay, yeah, they're gonna do more of that right right and it'd be interesting to see If they ever moved away from like I mean keeping cardboard But doing something else in a similar fashion But using different materials different types of almost like robotics in a way. Sure. Sure I think one thing they might be willing to do because maybe they don't consider it a hardware revision is new types of joycons Maybe Like even if it's just like oh you like the gamecube style controls. Well here it is in joycon form or um Or some sort of joycon like attachments that they can attach to the switch and do some crazy with Not that I would be interested in that but we know they did a bunch of crazy things with memotes, so Right, who do you think they'd be willing to do a Like a corded controller Does it allow plug in the uh the usb c I'm guessing that's just a mostly an output, right? What do you mean because would you be able to plug a like controller into the usb c and have it like input Or is the usb c only an output in the switch Well, you can have it input because you can when you plug into the dock you can hook up where your controller to the dock So obviously you in theory there's no controller that exists that does that but they could create something that could right So, you know, you know, maybe creating like a gamecube controller for The we It's my fault. I brought it up. I brought it up. No, but but i'm saying like bringing like a An nes controller to the switch I why All they need to do is bring out a joycon that has a d-pad right well, there's that solves the problem There you go. I mean that is also possibility too um I don't know. I don't I I I have a hard time with peripherals because I always think peripherals Um beyond some useful things like battery banks and stuff like that. They're just gimmicks. Yeah That's all they are. They're just a bunch of gimmicks. They're not why people buy a product They don't really push sales of the product like oh, man, you can buy these plastic wheels from either card That's not why people bought my your card. Okay Like oh man, look at we sports. Look at that. You could buy plastic uh golf clubs and stuff like that That's not why people bought we sports right like none of that pushes sales of the system the game itself right right um, so I don't know Um, I I guess you know, I have my one idea you threw out some ideas One question I want to get to because we're going to kind of wrap up the process is when This is this is one of the first question What is the right time and what sort of revisions do we want when they finally do a revision because basically This is admitting there will be a revision of the switch someday Right, so what's the right timing to you and what does that revision need to be? I can see it being at the end of year three Maybe four At early five at the very very latest Well, because the one thing that we do always have to remember There's going to be a PlayStation 5 Xbox to right eventually right we don't know when we don't know how much pro and x is extending this generation right We don't know there could be another revision on top of those. We don't know right But it feels like to me by at least 2020 There would be new systems because that would be right seven years of those systems being on the market right Now Where are we talking about revisions? Are we talking like it's a hardware revision? Okay, so the full like a full brand new Yeah, it'd be like in a new nintendo 30s looks like like a new yeah a new switch right, okay Yeah, so What's the right time and what and what does the revision need to be? Well, obviously it's got to be a little bit more powerful Um, what are we talking? What's a little bit? Well, I didn't say a little bit. I just said it had to be a little bit more powerful You literally just said did I say a little bit? Yeah. No, I just I meant it just has to be more powerful Okay, so how much more I don't know Does it need to be like a new generation kind of part of like a generational leap it just depends on where we are with the technology Really, I mean I can see it being like Honestly, if we come out with the tiger x3 x4 Fully backwards compatible. Are we talking? Are we talking cross generation games where everything still plays in the og switch? I can see it being more of like how they treated the yeah, uh 3ds Honestly, okay. Well, then you're talking slight upgrade Tiger x2 right barely more powerful than the og But it is more powerful. Actually, it's just makes things a little bit smoother, but Grand scheme doesn't make a big difference. Mm-hmm I can see them doing that I'm not saying that that's what it needs to be But that's where I'm kind of seeing them going with it See if that mean it well, that's the thing. I asked you what revisions What is the right time and what sort of revisions do we want? Like is that what you want? Is it just to be a small upgrade? No I would much rather see it going up to the top of the line of whatever it can or as close to the top of line as possible but You know because like let's say For some other reason they weigh another Three years before they bring it out And let's say but then we have the tiger x4 I mean if they go to three it's not gonna I don't think it's gonna be That big of a deal depending on how new and how expensive the four is Like my take was though this is what I've thought about this before what I wanted them to do not this year But next year next summer or next holiday or whatever launch a new nintendo 3d or xl or 3ds the switch xl or whatever With the tiger x2 that's basically a new nintendo 3ds where it's just more power efficient instead of 720p local screen We get 1080 same battery life. Basically. It's basically the same thing as the normal switch just that slight boost Um, and they keep it at the same price and at the same time while they charge 300 for this new one The old one they finally offer you the ability to buy it without the dock for 200 So now you can get the og switch for 200 you can get the new one for 300 with the dock And you can still buy the dock separate. Hopefully they cut the price of the dock in half at some point in here and then When that's all done That's not it that to me was like this was the robot This is where I talked about how the road map should be iterative in that right that's two and a half years out Here's a site upgrade and then Not not in 2020 when I think like playstation 5 might be hitting 2020 But halfway through 2021 which again would be two years after this new one hit That's when you hit like a kind of sort of x version like a generational leap style version where it's like See the taker x3 x4 or whatever whatever it might even take her at that point Whatever whatever the technology is they have with nvidia Um, they hit with that now. It's still going to be behind the playstation 5 of course Oh, yeah, because if playstation 5 is still a standalone box in your tv Mobile technology can't necessarily compete with that especially that early right but Um, the key thing to me is always going to be price point like when you talk about like Taker x2 even now And I can't use the taker x2 now because the system will cost $500 right to use it. They have to wait until it's cheap enough So when you talk about like what you want to take her x4 well I want that well if a taker x4 is available in 2021 I want them using a taker x4 that can put an output 4k visuals at 60 fps or whatever Right, that's what I want but like the thing is right exactly. Yeah I think it would almost be too pricey for the market and that's that's just it So like I'd be willing to spend 500, right? I'm willing to buy I want to buy an xbox one x this year It's gonna be 500 right now. You can get a game with it, which is nice Right, let's go. I'm one thing. I'm glad I waited as you now you can get games with over 500 But so I I am actually glad I didn't buy and do it when it came out Just because now I can get a game with it this year and if I can hold off until this holiday might be able to get a couple games Like even at game stuff, they might even have a used x with like three games one that would be sweet, right? But Um, my thought process is that's what I wanted to happen But now this report's making it seem like that's not what Nintendo is going to do That they're going to have like a new version of it But it's not going to be this iterative thing where every couple years they have a new one come out And I know some people are going to be happy about that Because they don't like iterative and that's fine, but I always look at it as the switch The problem with mobile tech the huge like when you're talking about under tv video game consoles There's a reason that 360 could get away with being what it was for as long as it was because There isn't really anything else in the market Making you have to go forward, right because pc gaming's always considered the separate thing from console gaming So while PCs are massively ahead It didn't matter because there really wasn't anything in the home console space that made you need to upgrade Right, um, whereas The problem with switch is when you get to the point that people can emulate odyssey on their damn phone Oh, for sure. It's one of those things where it's like now you're talking about The switch is like mobile tech is moving so fast. It is and Nintendo's now squarely in that mobile I know we can argue there's nothing competing with the hybrid nature, but let's be honest It's still it's still there. They are squarely in the phone game Right. This is in the the mobile tablet space. Mobile tablet. Yes. So the moment that their games can be Like playable on Other mobile tablets It's like Nintendo's got stuff their game with the Nintendo's got like the tiger x1 made so much sense because it was It wasn't necessarily cutting. It was cutting edge in 2015 Right. It wasn't necessarily cutting edge by the time it came out But it was in the upper echelon Right of the of the best of the best for gaming purposes on mobile But now even now it's behind with all the new apple and the new samsung coming out and other new devices and So it's already behind And by the time 20 to 21 hits, I mean, we're going to be talking about That phone in your pocket is four times as powerful as the switch But that phone costs a thousand bucks So how's the switch going to compete when a new one comes out because they can't charge a thousand dollars Right. Now granted, there's other things that can cut out that's going to make it not have to be that All stuff, but it's still one of those to me that I don't If they don't do the iterative where they have the small upgrades over two years I don't know how they can compete long haul With that phone in your with that device in your pocket almost half It's already to the it's already to the point now where you just do a flick in your that that pocket things streaming on your tv now Yeah I mean, I understand the convenience of controllers and everything I'm I'm not saying right now that my phone replaces my switch Right, but if my phone can play odyssey and I could just bluetooth the controller to it When I'm on that airplane going to e3 Why bring two devices when I can have one right Then I can make phone calls and everything else that you already do on it. Yeah, so it's I mean, we're not at that point now. We're years away from it But but I that the only thing that ever concerned me about this mobile game for nintendo is They got to play the mobile game to stay in the moment, which means the thing if they wait four years I just don't know You almost have to stay. It has to be a big jump and that big jump was cast to come with a big Almost have to just stay slightly ahead of the mobile game the the phone game And that's the the problem is is You're at that place. I don't know what's doing that every a big caveat on this is we don't know what the what the deal is With invidia, we know that invidia publicly said it's like a 10-year partnership The initial contract's like 10 years. So to me that means nintendo's planning 10 years of switch bare minimum Um and what we don't know about that is we don't know what the deal is like Yes, I take our x2 if someone else wants to use it might make some cost $500 But nintendo's contract with them might get at an extremely discounted price right to the point invidia might even lose money On it there was talks about they might even be losing money on the x1 with nintendo, but Invidia is willing to do that because it's getting them into the gaming space or that they have failed the penetrate AMD has owned at this whole time. It's getting them into the mobile space Which they have failed the penetrate because amd is owned at this whole time um so That's another thing to consider too because even though the taker x4 or x3 or whatever is coming out If you have something or whatever it ends up being yeah, even if It would be an $800 ship at the time Nintendo might be able to get it inside their switch for 400 Because they have that kind of partnership with invidia right for for this first 10 years now if they reoff the contract Then things might change because invidia at that point might be like we kind of own your technology We are your technology. We're not going to give you that big discount anymore um You know you've moved hundreds of millions of switches. We now we want a bigger piece We want to actually make money off of this Now we realize you need to stay price competitive So maybe we'll just make a couple bucks per chip instead of like overcharging you But you know whatever that's to worry about in 10 years or I guess at this point nine and a half We don't really know when the partnership started It could we could already be in year three of the partnership for all right right for sure Because we don't know if if like the contract Obviously the contract existed before the switch came up We're like if the 10 years is like from day of release 10 years forward or if it included the pre-development um Who knows we don't know you don't need to know like they just said 10 years to that's like a public statement It could be a longer than 10 years probably They're just throwing out a random number. Okay for the next decade. We own nintendo Nintendo's tech right. We are nintendo. What was that confirmed or was that just uh, that was invidious press release Oh, okay, so we have a 10-year partnership. Okay um I thought I thought it was one of those we are hoping to have a 10-year partnership No, they said they have a 10-year partnership But see the thing is that doesn't mean the tunnels just doing switches for 10 years right Like they can easily like if they if they do make an underbox thing again Like it would just be using nvidia tech instead of amd right um, but Very interesting too because you could argue like sticking with amd playstation 5 is in a very good place because apus are getting crazy good right now um, and now the rise in apu Like the 2400 g It's cheap And blows the pants off a playstation 4 They're in a good spot right now because there's not a lot of competition from the other side yet on that I mean, it's it's gotten to the point now where intel is partnering with amd For apu wait what to put vega graphics on intel chips Wait, what because that's how create that's all ahead of in this in the apu game Amd isn't like yes, they're vega 56 and or 57 or whatever in 64 are not Are not like as good as people wanted them to be or hope they would be But for apu purposes They are so far ahead of the game right now this year We'll see if it changes But when you get to the point that intel and amd actually have a partnership It's kind of like right obviously intel knows that amd's got something on nvidia in this apu market and on top of that Intel has been owning a lot of the mobile tech stuff Our amd has been so it's kind of like intel knows that okay amd knows what they're doing with these combo chips like And I think that's why nvidia might have been willing to give nintendo what was probably a discount price Because they don't have their inroads And that doesn't mean that the taker x sign is bad. It's just It's just an interesting competition where I actually think um If I'm not saying it's going to happen, but if sony wanted to create a competitor to switch They're in a very damn good position to pull it off right Just throw the damn 2400 g runs your whole goddamn system. Uh-huh Put some ram chuck that bad boy in a switch like device now and you Don't listen trouble in terms of just competitive not again. It hasn't happened yet Sony for all we know is no interest in doing it right microsoft They're a wild card who knows what they're doing Not like people thinking they might buy sega now and who knows who doesn't microsoft's doing They're a wild card right now because they've promoted phil Spencer to a position where They can make major decisions now like acquisition like buying out companies. So I don't think it's anything's gonna happen this generation But for the following generation on xbox 2 I won't be surprised that microsoft has a major acquisition like a sega Or platinum games or something. They buy out a major studio so they can start having more or more exclusive games Kind of like when they bought rare, but it would be a bigger acquisition than that It would be a company that's regularly porting out games not just like one game at a time every three or four years um, and that was obviously interesting situation because Nearing your hearts and nintendo and what sucked about it is nintendo was offered the ability to buy them out and they said No, so like when we like oh mad at microsoft. I'm like, well, I mean One get mad at the rare people for wanting to sell right the owners two Give mad at nintendo for not they had literally went to nintendo first said hey Do you want to buy out there's for a company and they said no Now nintendo learned the lessons of retro studios and bought them out, but it's kind of like Rare it mentioned that they had rare and retro studios And I don't know if they would have retro studios if they owned rare But imagine if they did yeah, I don't know I oh that would be sick I did have two major western brands Making yeah, yeah, um, even imagine it see a thieves on switch I I'm just I'm just Thinking of see if these wouldn't exist to be honest because they would have never well They probably they were they probably still would have made that terrible banjo Manjaro zoo game This is still what would probably happen, but that doesn't mean anything banjo kazooie banjo kazooie game nuts and bolts Yeah, yeah, um, no, I'm just thinking of how much better the remake of conquerors could have been Not that it was I mean not that it was terrible. It's just it I don't know that it would have been better the I honestly think it would have been worse It would have been on worse hardware. So I want to look that's good So there wouldn't have been as like that pretty upgrade that makes you want to buy it again anyways And they probably still would have did what they did with the multiplayer because that's what they wanted to do This rare was still at the top of their game then So like that's that when they ported it to xbox the only thing you're upset about it's a multiplayer They probably would have did that anyways I just play microsoft It's not microsoft them all the players not microsoft as well microsoft didn't look at them and be like, yeah make your game what pissing on people Instead of uh instead of the ninja flying bears Yeah, like they didn't tell them to do that They just told them to port the game and then they decided they wanted to experiment with the multiplayer Yeah, that was the one of the better parts of the game To you a lot of people that was the most important part of the single player. Oh, no, don't that whole game itself was amazing That's what I'm saying like like like we dream about it being different But I don't know that it would have been really a different. Yeah to be honest So not right away. Anyways, I think rare was what it was and After like even view of pinata was really good But then after that it all could have fell apart Who knows it still might have fell apart because who knows like after the buyout How much of the talent wanted to leave anyways, right? Like we know microsoft made them make connect games, but it's not like they were making good games before that happened So it's kind of like and the best connect games were made by rare. So it's kind of like they had talent, but Maybe when the owners left they just kind of lost Their way with some of the franchises like what ended up having banjo kazooie, right? Like we don't know how much the owners were really the big idea people there. Um anyways, not that you don't know there Actually, we do know a bit about how much a big idea people they were the owners were actually huge And like the founders of the company were huge and and some of the quality control and stuff, but um Yeah, I guess The problem I have with this fourth topic is that What I want to happen is not going to happen right because that's what this says, right? Um I guess what I can hope has happened is a 4k doc. It's not going to Like I wanted to happen. I get hope up, but it's not going to rumor So it's not even a rumor. It's just speculation like you guys let me know what you think about this news Um, I briefly mentioned it in one of our prime news segments, but again, it's like one of those things where um There's just not a lot here. It's just telling you don't expect probably in the next two years don't expect a hardware revision and Expect Nintendo to push peripherals thing is we haven't really seen what peripherals mean to Nintendo yet We just haven't we've seen the normal stuff. We've seen the battery banks We've seen the the nico docks. We've seen the craziest thing peripheral is lebo And that's not even a peripheral. It's an art project It's still peripheral. It's a do-it-yourself art project. I don't consider that a peripheral. I'm sorry It's a do-it-yourself art project. Yeah, but it's still peripheral because you put your it still uses your switch to It's not anything on the switch itself It's a do-it-yourself art project I'm just telling you right now It's it's being sold on the basis that it's a do-it-yourself thing It's not being sold as this is a plastic thing to use with your thing This is being sold as like It's being sold as a do-it-yourself kit. Yeah, so I I understand what you're saying But until it's used outside of the nintendo label. I don't think it's a peripheral yet I understand you're creating fishing poles and you're like I understand that you're like making What would be a peripheral but at the same point It's the building of it that is the fun Not necessarily I'm not gonna say using this not fun But I'm guaranteeing you the building that's gonna be way more fun than using it Like building the piano is going to be way more educational and way more entertaining than actually playing on it because oh my god You have ten keys. Congratulations. Right Like it's not gonna be that great, but it's just going to feel cool that you built this thing that does something um Same sense you get kind of with lego sometimes like even when you get the robotic legos Like it's just cool that you built this giant thing that does something even if right in your imagination It's not nearly as cool as you thought it would be it still was like I built that Yeah, there's a sense of pride. Oh, no, you put that you you pulled off that thing. So Um, that's what I don't know. I I get what you're saying, but I just think that that's like I don't know that nintendo is saying that that's a peripheral. I think they're saying that's this idea there a concept I think when you talk about for especially specific to the usbc port, there's got to be something crazy Like are we getting another rob the robot? Yeah, you know, I'm not powered by your nintendo switch. That'd be kind of cool Imagine if they didn't get another robotic something where you plug your switch into the usbc thing Like dock it onto this robot thing and you control it with the joy-cons Make your own nintendo switch. Rock them. Sock them robots, baby. Yeah, buddy. Heck yeah UFC style. All right. I think I'm gonna do it. Holy crud. That'd be impressive. All right I think it's gonna do it for this week's episode of the nintendo prime. I guess episode 50 bow Next week's gonna be 55 55 we are only 46 episodes away from 100 Yeah, buddy, we'll probably have a celebration at 100 Maybe no if I remember. I don't know. We didn't really do a whole lot of 50 No, I didn't I didn't want to do a whole lot of it because it was kind of like a We should have hit 50 a long time ago. Yeah. Well, so we should have 100. Oh, I don't know. No, we should be Still below 100, but we should be in the 80s. Yeah, you know if we've been doing the weekly thing for a while But anyways, it doesn't matter. 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Um, yeah, and by the way I might as well mention this because it's been a couple weeks now since we didn't have a podcast Yes, uh, we are trying to go to e3 this year, but we need your help Uh, nintendo prime is an entity that's solely ran by myself. I have a couple people that help sometimes I'm eric with the podcast Um, and he helps out with like if I go to e3 he's gonna be helping me out there Um, and then I also have martin who edits our podcast But like all other content in this channel is 100 done by me And I support my family with it and I do this for a career Um, I'm one of those struggling youtubers out there, but I'm not struggling so much at my family struggling yet So thank you guys so much for the support you've given me so far But we really want to go to e3 because we feel like we can do e3 different than other people Yeah, and it's not even for for us. It's for you guys. Yeah, we're it's A lot of people um even a lot of youtubers and they go to e3 a lot of times you see in their videos They're talking about how much fun they're having or and I'm not saying we won't have fun Right, but what I'm saying is they're not going there with the mindset that I'm here for work I go there with the mindset. This is my job. I am here to create the best damn content I can write guys to get the videos clips of the games You're not getting from anyone else to do things in the games You're not seeing from anyone else to get interviews if we possibly can to Hook up with other big influencers out there that you want to hear from and hear opinions from on certain things That you might not hear from normally right to tell cnd to get on our damn podcast I'm just saying like when we when I go there and Eric can attest to this when we went for zelda for back in 2016 It's business. Oh, yeah, there's not I don't want to say there's no pleasure We had one afternoon of pleasure. I went to a baseball game With the baseball game the first night. Yep, and we learned the last day before got on time We went to the beach for like an hour Yeah, but that was also we literally I was up all night long editing videos uploading Hotel Wi-Fi, you know, that could be I mean granted I basically got to the point where you upload and then you go to sleep and you pray to god It's down when you wake up. Uh-huh and a lot of times it wasn't you know what I just thought of what we don't have your alienware laptop No that cracked the ultimate speed Wi-Fi password No, I know Yeah, we were at the hotel like you We were supposed to have the high speed internet like they have the normal Wi-Fi And then you had the ultimate speed you had to pay for my laptop just accessed it without yeah passwords or anything Um, which really helped upload videos. It actually made a huge it was it made a surprising different stuff But whatever it is what it is. I forgot to pay for this. You gotta pay for it. Um, but yeah We really want to go but we need your help. Um, I know it sounds like a lot of money We're trying to raise $3,500 but remember it's not just to send me it's to also send Eric We're both going because this is at least a two-man job to get the kind of coverage We want because we always got to make sure that the cameras are being done right on the ground We're gonna have stands this time and right it's going to be a lot more professional than when it was with the seldom farmer And because we've been before we kind of get the shtick and I'm over some of the nerves I might have like I didn't handle business cards as much as I should have because just kind of nervous You know like not because I'm awestruck but just because I don't know Exactly how to approach things right or approach people. I've never talked to I'm like example if I see Bill Trennan and you know, it's like do I freeze up or do I say hi? No, you just say hi. Hey, man, dude. I'm Nate from the internal prime and love your stuff. Yeah, right, you know Yeah, it's you know, I don't know if you're ever going to contact me But here's a business card to be cool to get in touch sometime. Maybe we can uh Maybe even do an interview or something right, you know outside of e3 sometime, you know just for sure for sure Or or stuff like like like it's not just to obviously there's a big benefit to us So go in e3 But the the general idea is that the reason we want to go isn't no so much for us It's for you guys Because it is a lot of work. It is little sleep. It is long days long waits and lines to get you know a few hours of footage and in-person podcasts and special guests and interviews But all of this gives you something that I guarantee you're not going to get any other channel If you don't believe me go back and look at our coverage of e3 2016 when this channel was zeldin former We gave content that was not available on any other YouTube out there. So um, I The thing is I can't really Prove how different our content is going to be until we do it right and we need your help to do it And if you never want to support us going again, that's fine. And don't be wrong It's not like we're not going to put money towards it. It's going to cost more than $3,500 Right, but that's just going to get us there and get us the hotel and get us home We'll cover the food and all the other stuff and the equipment rentals that we're going to need to do and everything The the the ISD cards I'm going to have to buy But hell that pizza The the fat tomato pizza every other pizza better still be open. Oh, I know right anyways Thank you guys for tuning in I'm the thinner of a dance and this is eric more and we will catch you next week Prime things happen