 joins us now on the show. Victor is Michael Don and Peter, how are you today? I'm doing well guys, how are you? We're doing great. Give me the thing that stood out to you most with the weekend's games. What's the thing that you'll go wow, I can't believe that happened? Well I think we got to go with the Tennessee Titans. I think I think we all knew that they were a good team. I didn't think that they'd come out and punch Baltimore in the face like that in the mouth and Baltimore not respond. I think that was the biggest thing I took away from that and aside from you know Derek Henry's just a fully grown man at the end of the day but I was surprised by Tennessee Titans especially defensively in the secondary. They were almost glued to the hip to a lot of those receivers on crucial third downs where they needed to make a big play. That secondary was all over it and and as well as that defensive line that was getting after Lamar Jackson pretty well. I know he Lamar still did some pretty good things statistically but when you watch the game that defensive line was coming up with big play after big play when they needed it the most. Victor you know from the years we spoke and I'm a bit of a child so I wonder about this. So Derek Henry has been unstoppable. He has that huge braid coming out of his helmet. Are you allowed to tackle him by grabbing the braid? Is that legal? I believe it is legal now. I think I think the rule is that that is a part of the jersey that if you wear your braids outside of the helmet that that is indeed part of the jersey. So why wouldn't somebody yank it out of his head? Well that's a great question. I don't think anyone's had the opportunity to even get that close. The defenders especially DBS might have to scale his body just to get to the braid. Did you Vic did you think that Green Bay was on their way to throwing it away in the fourth quarter last night? I did. I think there was portions of the game where you're just like man they're not scoring any points or they look stagnant or they look like they're just not equipped enough to put points on the board in crucial situations for them to win the ball game but you know then Aaron Rodgers just being Aaron Rodgers and Devante Adams just being the beast that he is and those two I think the connection that those two have specifically is just it's just remarkable and it's just a connection that you know you only see with special guys and I think they have that and I think and I think it'll pay dividends for them. Now we were just having a conversation shifting over to the Kansas City Houston game. We all had a problem with the fake pun and obviously looking back at it that was a major momentum mover but when a team scores on six straight possessions and wins by 20. Is it fair to say that even without the fake pun that eventually Kansas City would have gotten together and won the game anyway? Yeah I think so. I think uh I mean I remember watching this game and you know once Houston went up 24 zip I was like oh man Kansas City just let this one go. I thought you know Houston was gonna go on the score of 30-40 points and this is gonna get out of hand real quick but you see Patrick Mahomes one big play and then it seemed like the whole team just started yelling in excitement and then they scored on that drive and everybody like the complete energy just shifted and it was only 24-7 and you just felt like okay here they come but not like that. I didn't think they'd score 28 points in a quarter and then go on to score 51 like I just didn't think it was gonna be that type of turnaround but um yeah I just thought and then on the other hand I just thought Deshaun Watson should have did more to kind of tell Bill Bryan like look we need to go for it here we need to change the energy we need to shift the momentum in some way shape or form and I just and I think they missed the boat on trying to try to shift that momentum throughout the course of that second quarter. Victor is that offense as turbo as it seems to us outsiders I mean you've played the game is it as unstoppable as it looks? Yes many for two things right like okay you have the simple drop back pass situation that Patrick Mahomes excels at just dropping you know three step five step drop getting the ball out timely passes you they have that part of their offense right then you have the intangible part of their offense which is Patrick Mahomes when the play breaks down and he has the ball for five six and seven seconds after the initial snap that's what you have to worry about because that team does better than anyone is just fine little nuances within the defense to be open and Patrick Mahomes has always got his eyes downfield trying to find the open guy so if you can find that little wrinkle or that little space between the defense nine times out of ten Patrick Mahomes is going to find you and then just when you think you've got all these receivers covered Patrick Mahomes is going to run for a couple first downs and do it with his legs so that you literally you can dial up any defense you want is hard to stop all of those different options. Victor is the game changing away to where it's becoming more of a ground and pound type game like what we heard Dave Gettleman say that I know it's a passing league but you got to run the football and the stats in the postseason have really shown the success of running the football are we starting to see a change a little bit in the way offenses are running this league. Yeah I think so I think I think it's a little bit of a change and I don't think it's a change I think it's going back to like old school just running the ball and if you look at a lot of the successful teams that have won championships they've had a significant running game or they've had a running game that is substantial enough to keep defense is honest and you know that's one thing as a receiver you love a good running game because as long as that running game is going and they're getting five six seven yards a clip that play action pass is going to be wide open for you so I used to love playing with guys like Amon Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs and guys like that because they really take the pressure off of you defensively when you want to go play action pass and you want to attack teams downfield a great running game is always going to be beneficial to your office for sure. What do you think of the Joe judge presser were you were you motivated by the spiel or did you think it was sort of like a little formulaic. I was I was a little motivated man I was ready to put some pads on put a helmet on I was like let's go let's go do this coach I'm convinced but obviously he's he's got to go out there and do it I know one thing that that I heard that I know players probably weren't too fond of is him having you know live practices and they're going to be hitting in practice and things like that those big problems like like what is not illegal though I mean there's only so many times you could do that. I hope so it needs to be legal if it's not already because I know guys do not want to be hitting during practice but there is something to be said for guys that you know you know when you go through training camp and you go through the preseason you go you know a lot of these guys don't play now and like so you're really not hitting anybody for a month and a half from the time you put your pads on to game one so like I do there is something to be said about guys you know getting used to tackling earlier on in the preseason but I don't know if they need to be tackling in practice throughout training camp and things of that nature I don't know how he's going to scale that but we'll see all right before we let you go who's playing in the Super Bowl. Oh man I got the Green Bay Packers against the Kansas City Chiefs. How do you how do the Packers get by San Francisco though I do not like that matchup for that I don't I don't like it either but I just something about Aaron Rogers just I'm just convinced it's been nine years if he does in fact win it'll be a nine year gap between the last time he was in the Super Bowl to this time and I just think the football gods are rewarding kind of the OG's out here in the NFL and I think it's his time again. Good stuff thank you Victor. No problem guys take care of my guy Peter all right. Oh always he's the reason. All right good I talked to you guys. I had to play a recap brought you by 2x1