 In the time you've been in Parliament, what are your two greatest achievements? First of all, I think trying to bring the party in line on research and development. I feel very passionately about New Zealand being not only clean and green but clever and talented. And I've been able to see a number of companies that are doing remarkable things. We cannot double our dairy industry. We have to use our brains and our talent to be able to drive through those innovative companies that are out there. And going around and seeing those companies and getting that on the table in our caucus has been possibly the most important thing I've done. My opponent has the support of the outgoing leadership team. They are great people and they've worked really hard but we got a result which is a good old fashioned shellacate. So we haven't heard this explicitly. So you're saying that Phil Goff and Annette King and those others who support Goff, they are with David Shearer. Yeah, I think that's my understanding. Climate change, big issue for people on the left. Who was Labour's climate change spokesman going into the election? Well, Charles Chevelle did some of the work to... Who was the spokesman? Well, most of the policy work was done around... Can you help him out? Brennan Burns. OK. The Labour Party at the moment, the rank and file, when I go along to those meetings, frankly, it's boring.