 I Didn't know he was gonna make it one of these nights. Can I sit with you you gonna make it a customer see you not even ready Go to work Thank you, brother. Thank you That's crazy come on. That's the type of shit you doing shit when you doing Getting paper while you other niggas being lazy Let's kick it off cuz this never food gay Had a lady she tried to grace me Product great. I get a pregnant. She might have two or three babies at once That's how I'm living and chilling cuz I be pimping And I be ducking on hoes like bar simps. I need a bitch with blue hair like Mars simps I'm getting Homer trying to get the donor dude. You smell the aroma This marijuana put a nigga in a coma now bring it back Just like a spy. I start at six, but I don't never stop at nine. Don't let it go over your head Yeah, I ain't scared Bitches licking on my left leg That's something that nigga. I do a bigger and I've been in the basement, but my name ain't ticker. Oh wait Yeah, damn. That's what you said My shit too big ain't nothing go over my head. Okay, I keep it going Yeah, I keep on flowing come on and everybody in the building they be knowing they be no You say you dunking on niggas like Bob Simpson. Yes, sir. Well, I'm a follow-up like Dominique will come Oh, I'm a gold. That's how you know Trinity James and the motherfucking nigga nigga nigga. I said all go everything Girl with some good kuchy even had an ear ring In it just wait a minute and let me tell you what I said what I just said. Yeah, so she spread the legs I seen the piercer. I'm like really This is what we do. Hmm. I chip my two cuz on the kuchy. I'll be chewing you be showing on the kuchy That's crazy. That's crazy. That's nasty. I'll be doing this shit saying like the eight like the eight Yeah, that's how you seen you chew on the kuchy now green. He get mean he be eating it And don't be shy Because you could tell from the way that he be tan through meals And he on the diet you about to do then what he doing Cuz every time he get the kuchy it be room. Yeah, he be walking in listening to the little ooze I seen this nigga right here make a kuchy smooth. Oh Damn, that's a man. I heard you made a whole kuchy sandwich and you manned it down Listen that noise. He just made what the fuck was that do with one more time. I jade Why you say that cuz now I want a kuchy Man welcome back to the Well, let's get it Right back where it was this one's right here's for the mothers and the cut Zins and stepbrothers this for the gangsters and the pimps and the husband This for the crooks who read books This for the pretty girl that's hung up on they look that's right This for the niggas that do it bigger This for the white folks with big figures this for the foreigners This for the immigrants this for the niggas who be wearing all them crazy pants This for the kids real hair. That's longer than we this for the people who bought teeth that they didn't even need Hey, uh, that was kind of me. I think you talking about me with my Uncircumcised jeans, but it's okay Yeah, I get it right these bitches make me walk down the steps like Willie dynamite. I ain't playing Here what I'm saying Trinidad James and the trap and we ain't playing You know it's down. You know, what's up? Jio went playing that pimping that what the fuck. Yes, sir. Hey, man. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the 85th South show This podcast was voted most likely to smell like we Oh We got a very special guests in the trap with us today Come on, man, you know, we on the whole streak with this ghetto legends come on So we went and got us a certified ghetto legends. Come on, man This dude started off With a mixtape giving them out in the city for the free man. I'm talking about hustling everywhere you went you saw I mean, I picked up one at the mall one day buying some shoes. I fucked with it. I played Parlayed that shit to some of the being part of some of the biggest hits. Yeah, some of your favorite song One of the coldest writers one of the most creative motherfuckers that ever come through here, man Very entertaining. Come on. Hey, man, you might know him as the shoe plug Some people called the nigga Nick James. Come on Some people called the trend that he introduced himself to the hose is just dead Right So man, just welcome make yourself at home. Oh, yeah, I love it man. How y'all feeling today shit amazing amazing You know, like you had one of them them moments in hip-hop that is you can't You can't even explain, you know, it's not too many people who had that moment where you take over the whole world on your first one Yes, sir, you know, I mean, it's kind of like that You know, I don't even know what to compare it to because it's it's Everybody knew that song. I mean my daughter used used to be singing that shit when it first came out and she was a little girl I'm like whoa pop the Molly. I'm spent now that part too and it was everybody I mean, and it's just like that that energy that you created with that like I always want to ask like is it a level of pressure? that comes with having one that's so major on your first one is it easier to never have to try to create that again or do you Continuously try to create that again It's all about the resources and knowledge that you come into it with it If you ask me this question ten years ago, I'll be like nigga, this is hard. Don't ask me this question right now I would have about ten years ten years of later. I still look good I'm still successful and I feel even better about the ten years in front of me I'm gonna tell you that it's a balance of both because When you do win big in the beginning The resources that are open to you are amazing. It's great. You know, um, the resources to make something else like that It is there, but You have to understand your artist type and what I mean by that is um all artists do art, but some art is kind of not Needed to be tainted by mainstream I would ever I think that when you're making music it has its different demographics for it And so you could either get you got to understand what's good for your spirit outside of what's good for your Bank account. I wonder that's what I'm gonna say to you So I had to realize at an early early age or in this game They're like, he's like do I really want to go through everything that comes over having a number one song every single summer That was just about to ask you that though cuz it's like when your song didn't first blow Oh, you remember about the first two halloween's after that. Yeah It's all had a long long legs man, long life as they say Yeah, I mean Justin Timberlake did it on Saturday night live when I saw that or yeah, one of those I was like when I saw that I was like, okay, you got to understand I'm coming out of the real Atlanta streets would not a background in music Yeah, I like my background is the streets and being an immigrant. So for me it's different as like You have to get out of that. I can't speak for anybody else for me I had to get out of that phase of not deserving it feel like I didn't deserve it Wondering if I deserve it Yeah, that imposter syndrome or just wondering like when you don't have no background in That type of success in your whole family and you're the first of the generation. You're first of your kind In your own family, you know you you go under did that come from like the blogs in the media though What come what like you thinking that you ain't deserve it like, you know, I'm saying feeling like that Well feeling like what you weren't there. I think that part of it would you know But I think also the reaction of the people around you That's closest to that you know So when you start to see those people change or people change for the good and the worse You started realizing you start to realize you're doing something that matters. Yeah, but if you don't know What you're doing just as yet. You're trying to understand like what matters is it the moment? Is it me? Is it the music? Is it the money? Is it the jury? Like what is it? You know I'm saying so that's what I had to wrap my head around in the beginning of the song It's like what is actually mattering right now, bro? You dealt with the criticism better than any entertainer. We didn't seem in Hold on before we don't say what it all kind of crazy shit about you and I see you explain like what shit I don't give a fucking straight like he get the criticism But I don't think you'd be getting the plot like we just talking about we talking about this first thing I don't go everything that shit encapsulated what the club scene was like And I was I don't think people realize that shit like Rapper going out a person going out MJQ all these by all these clothes like it gave you the vibe But after hours and he was telling I was Oh my everybody feeling they motherfucking self nigga, that's what we did our 10 year anniversary concert Ten years and ten years not a lot in this game But it's enough for me the way that I paid attention to it to just understand Why people say the things they say the truth of it is kind of what you got to keep to yourself to know to Not let that shit matter how whatever it's like damn. Is that shit true? Do I actually actually take this look from Martin will not really when I realized that the things that people was like going viral off of wasn't actually true And that shit don't really make no difference unless I really Can't beat me Like you might get me down today because I'm human and I can't be goddamn one thousand confidence every single day How would everybody nigga? I'm just too will pass like they say in the Bible You know, I mean it definitely passed and I think it gave more Like to the shit Big platform like this one right here. How would every at this point in time? I feel like they just wonder like damn what that nigga got going on there What the fuck like I keep writing this nigga off and he keep writing himself like oh How would I be like you don't control my narrative? You just control your perspective of the the art Didn't make it so these were dedicated to My first album all go everything so I say don't believe me just watch and then dad for the pinky I did the gold chains obviously for the gold chains. That's the dollar sign That's how I always do for my James. This is my soccany sneaker my first sneaker and then this is me I mean my whole body is art. I look at tattooing is art. I don't look at it It's like oh a job is like when you do it. Well, I don't look at my nail text I this a black lady from Atlanta named Dosa effect. How much he text you? These you know she could she can be up there. He's a lot. That's a lot I know how much the jail nails be for the like You know I mean they be I see how you're looking at below. That's why I was asking In the cuticles You say Mm-hmm How does that look? Don't believe me. Just watch bro. It is like uh, we gonna be all right It's a it's a nickel spiritual Because when you say it nigga nigga nigga nigga, I feel like you unlocked all the powers of the runaway slaves or some shit I Dilated peoples or tribe or one of them had a song that had a nigga nigga nigga part in it I would have it back in the day before me. I didn't never Hey came up to me like amen You did this because what's it called? I was like man, I never even heard that song I felt bad. I never heard it this song. I would ever but you know once again These things are just in our culture. If you're gonna look at old Pimp see he was saying or old Noriega. He was saying slime the word It was saying clout All of it is nothing is you know now I said that nothing's new under the sun I'm gonna make it work. I'm a twerk All right You don't get her $20 in your face. I didn't know it was lettuce. I thought you were supposed to say it I said, are you legit? It's fine if you're legit bit the coop You speaking in the mic you ain't got a screen People like to brag if you ever see a motherfucker slick brag throw some shit in there that ain't got to be in them My homeboy told me the other day. I got my house built from the ground up I'm like everybody shit from the ground up. What the fuck are you talking about nigga? Just say you got your house built and get the fuck over here. It's just a wonderful display of all the talent We've got here in Atlanta. It just can't be beat God is good Like that, you know on that song specifically just that one you was it was you was rapping But it was like you was preaching on that motherfucker Like it was just the way you were saying what you were saying It was so easy to follow and it was like you was painting a picture for anybody who hadn't been to Atlanta Even if you didn't see the visual because when the visual came out it took it to another level But if you've never been to Atlanta and you hear that song you like nigga, where is this place? Yeah, this ain't for no fuck nigga. You're real nigga being fucked with Straight up. I'm doing the Lord's work He was in the club and he saw everybody he shot out on that shit Spare me the fuck All that shit. Yeah, I mean all the way And that was Instagram first dog To even have a perspective, let's let's let's break down the song a little bit You know what I'm saying? Fart nigga had just became a word that was really really cranking in our city Like a fighting word. Yeah, I would ever say it was the most disrespectful word It was the most attention-grabbing word So I was like you got to start out the project with that because that's our culture Mind you I'm not coming to this as a rapper because my background is not being a rapper My background is being a stylist and a human and a fashion nigga and a street nigga and a selling weed and selling models like hustler You know what I'm saying? I don't know how rappers think. I don't give a fuck. I dress better than them in my head 15 years ago, you know, I'm saying like in my head. I'm like, you see me because also I'm a stylist I'm styling artists. I'm styling trappers boarding in them. I'm styling scream and DJ holiday. And this coming off the rock star shit You know what I'm saying? Way like way before You know what I'm saying? So anyways, it's kind of like taking it so like boom fuck nigga Strongest word most disrespectful word in our culture start there You know, I'm saying then I worked at a wafer house. That's right by Chester bridge I would have so I knew all the strip is honest I learned so much from those girls from working the night shift being the cook that spoke to them Man, I would I was like, oh damn Tell them this triple plate This man This triple plate See how that nigga teeth used to look like it went perfect with the wafer house You know It looked like when he first came out, he looked like a nigga that would work as a And he's missing that small tooth and right there's like a crack Yeah, you know, this nigga's here right here. He's trying to be crazy Billy home man We're not gonna talk about how how about you. Oh, definitely It is a how about you for bro. You didn't even just turn us back to you And I could flip the grill on this side Right No, he's doing the Lord's work. What? But yes, so yes, you know what the stripper plate is for all people at home for anybody that didn't hear the stripper plate And it might have changed because girls of it's a nuance and girls have elevated these busy crab legs Yeah That type of lamb chops That's a good point right there. When did all the lambs become available to the black community? Never see a nobody eat lamb now all of a sudden they got lamb lollipop chops and Nigga, where the fuck did the lambs come? When did they migrate to the negro community, bro? What year was that? They ate up all the crab legs. Oh, yeah, they didn't It's a big crab was just bone. They go Nigga crabs had like a motherfucker They didn't even show up crab like I heard about how good juicy crab is That's crazy. Somebody crab spot is about to feel the real inflation. I didn't know about lamb chops when COVID hit When COVID hit, that's what they're about to give up. Yeah, that's what niggas did, the COVID probably brought all new animals into the lamb chop Lamb chop and pancakes. Niggas is just into them now. Lamb chops and waffles. Lamb chops and everything. You know, we get shit slow People fall. It's racism's fault. They can have much delicious shit. We ain't even had yet. Oh, yeah, that's right I'm talking about shit that we ain't even got a hold of yet. Well, the hood grows What grocery store? A lot of time. I went to the niggas where they really cooked. That's car gold That's car gold, right? Yeah, exactly. This is car gold for breakfast. See, this niggas is The crab rib niggas gonna stop making roasts We just ain't never seen a prime rib done Yeah, they always look like that niggas. It's that sappy shit. You gotta eat a prime rib, man That bit be ain't no telling what else white man pink in the middle You know, I gotta say this the garnish like the the ultimate compliment on the video was you holding the puppet Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, the hand movements tuning You know I'm saying it was just it was player man that my question to you is being from Atlanta like you said from From the streets of the perspective that you had coming into the game What was your reception like for the people that knew you? prior to you blowing up Um, it was it was interesting like the niggas used to sell weed and molly too when they see you do up like goodness I mean, what you see the beautiful thing is that no matter what what your plugs It was a blessing, bro Me being there I love answering these questions now because I just understand everything Because I never fucked nobody over it was like they was happy as hell Because I was somebody that was in their circle and we was all flipping money between each other He's like a shit. It's like I make money off of selling all these shoes and all this molly And then I buy what you from you and then you do you know, I'm saying it's like whatever you need Who had a community on these I was a big part of this community Where I already felt cool. I didn't do music to be cool I didn't use it to take care of my mama and be in my own business to stop having to work for somebody I didn't do music to be famous Or I was already cool in the coolest city in the world, you know what I'm saying like What my version of cool like, you know what I'm saying like, well, you're not a Gucci man ti gz But there's so many levels to cool in this city once you really establish what your worth is and your intention I would have that I had made a name for myself from a fashion standpoint Providing the drip to so many people or whatever and if I wasn't doing music I probably had one of the best sneaker stores in Atlanta, Georgia Because that's the only thing I would have to focus on is the thing that I already was becoming a big huge Asset for the city, you know, it's it's bigger than My partners going back to your question or whatever like the people around me They were just happy because they knew that I was a person that was like He's gonna he deserve it or whatever. I didn't even know he was doing music But he ain't a bad person. So the blessing was just something that was all thankful for That's because you got so many artists in Atlanta You got so many people who rap in Atlanta that's been doing it for so long that never got anywhere near Close to having a even a local hit for something that go Worldwide like that like that probably can breathe a lot of you know envy Oh, yeah from people. So for you to not have that experience is a blessing I think that that's one of the greatest things talking to y'all now 10 being an official 10 years is that Over these 10 years, he's whatever 365,000 days, whatever that is On 36,000 days, maybe The people who started off jealous in the first five However, I stayed so consistent that we're cool However, I've looked at my I've been able to even make my enemies get closer to me Damn there. I would everywhere. It's like you not you're not an enemy Because you realize like damn. I'm you're just missing. Yeah, you're misinformed about what you thought I was gonna do You thought I was gonna take my fame and shit on you I never shit on you. I just really stayed focused on me Which I didn't left me no time for you. I don't mean I shouldn't on you I just don't have no time for you Because I need to focus on me in order to take care of what actually matters The thing that we got into this trap for to take care of our families I'm still in the trap. It's just a better looking one. Why That's what quotes why You good in this city And you do good business Yeah, like you said people fuck with you. Yeah off the comedy. Shit. We'd have seen that shit first hand Think of people like my boy ticket Jerry Be good the first tickets the first Hawks game I ever went to is because I gave him some jeans from my store for the tickets You know my first car I ever got was ticket Jerry and I crashed it his brand new fast ass challenge He had like a three two three two five the bumblebee position one of them challengers 392 I would have I crashed at the croaker parking lot right here on west end Into a park car. You know what I'm saying and he was like, it's all good. I whatever you know And and when it got another car, that's crazy I could take care of I can pay him back anything what you can bother in Atlanta is is probably different than any other city You know, I mean you probably can just trade off some shit in Atlanta You can't trade off nothing just because of the shit that's available in this city You know, I mean like you fuck around and just a man look like you give me a lap dance like, you know Bro, but Any city ticket Jerry be close in any city like this nigga damn They'll be on the court like players got a drip around that nigga. Who was that ticket Jerry? Who we say you got a ticket anything superbowl? I had just got my mom some marriage a black ticket from the mind blowing me ticket Jerry They know him you gotta know him When you get there, it's gonna be some more people like are you talking to Jerry? Shit, I wanted to take a Jerry ever got us the tickets to our shit Go get the tickets to your shit Man, he already got the sweets for the show coming up. Come on, man. What the fuck it is guarantee. He's never failed He's never failed my family's friends Never failed not one time failed Thousand percent I've never heard a negative yelp review about this nigga Never Tickets that nigga tickets to anything Anything Sitting on the bench when he get up off the bench the ticket gonna be under the bench under your shoes. It's yours That's damn ticket Jerry. That's niggas the wizard of tickets Fuck us. This nigga is the wit. Is it only in Atlanta? It could be drinking London at the O2 arena. What? Call him Jerry, I lost my tickets. I need more tickets. Chico. The best time to follow ticket Jerry is doing Valentine day The goddammit strap accounts the nigga take his girl to Greece one day They back in the Atlanta court side at a game like he do shit like that. So the women following him So the women showing you what this nigga doing? What are you talking? We talking about ticket? He's doing all this shit. He's just out of check God, he done brought some shit in there because if you listen to him You're gonna be feeling the type of way because jerry take care of his woman so good Your woman gonna be like so what you doing chico? Not a motherfucker thing. He's trying to get in contact with this nigga Take this point out. My girl don't need this. My girl don't need to be followed You need to be trying to get in contact with her like i'm trying to get in contact with this No, stop it stop trying to act like you want great guys Oh, i'm definitely a great guy, but I ain't taking jerry I think it's all myself. But ticket jerry help you get there. Oh, yeah, I need to Take it Take it man. You got the room for it. That's what i'm trying to do Hey, guess what jay wear the 27 I will be in Phoenix, Arizona That's right, buddy at the celebrity theater. It's going down jay wear the 27th in phoenix, arizona Oh, yeah It's eight o'clock black people time Hey, what's up your man carlos miller? It's a new year. So hopefully you're not going out Like the oh you that's right this episode is sponsored by bluetooth The process is simple sign up at bluetooth.com consult with one of their licensed medical providers and once you're approved You'll receive your prescription within days So if you can benefit from some extra confidence when it's time to perform blue, chu can help Blue choose the unique online service that delivers the same active ingredients as viagra and cealis But insurable tablets and at a fraction of the cost you can take them anytime There at night so you can plan ahead or be ready whenever an opportunity arises The best part is all done online. 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I want to see I want to see Tell the swift nigga something that I would never get a ticket to i'ma i'ma try you a swifty i'ma be one if i can get a Man that nigga might have you introducing her that nigga so goddamn cold with the ticket shit Damn, he has a backstage pass you got there with her mama and um Ciao, man smoking hooker. Yeah Damn drinking jack day's limit. You know it Guess what his instagram name is ticket jack nigga, you know This is the best promo of the whole He has a real chain from icebox chains Say ticket jam Yeah, what do you mean? You got a commercial on the radio Yeah America's finest at lannis best right Niggas don't miss man. He used to have a little shit down the bucket, right? He don't say some shit because he's been there by the show That's what i'm saying. He know what's up, but that's exactly how you get in the trap with the ghetto legends, bro Another ghetto legend happens Oh Man, i'm telling you Chico, you see what's going on I ain't got no service it tick t i c k e t I'll take it underscore jerry, huh? Yeah, he got underscore. He might be underscore All right, yeah, he should be verified he verified in the middle of the deal with stubble Man, what you talking about? I'm sorry. I don't know Hey, however you get your tickets Feel free to get them going back to the music What does it feel like when somebody come through and want to sample your work and then that shit turned into A super super mega super song and we heard the Bruno Mars we heard Right we heard that they had to So It's it's beautiful now big bag beautiful now Okay The way that the bag works is the business that i'm happy that i learned Getting the initial big bag at first if more tied to my childish ways when i was like, oh damn I got a lot of money cool I would have but i ain't made more money before that from that But not over all over time. You see money is about making it travel Not the moment of it right like if you could the further you could throw money is the better having moment Right money right in the moment is like yes, what you saying? The further you could throw money is the the longer it's going to last You know, if you got all of them, yeah, i'm letting simmer That's real Because in my mind it's randy mouse going to get the money. Yeah, so you just got to put it up there. Yeah, just throw it It's inconsistent and don't look back Too much. I would have because you'll miss it and just keep going and then when it's time to put your arms up Receive what you deserve. Catch it because if you drop it, that's on you. Isn't it a philosophy? I didn't know this shit had turned into a financial but This she gonna pop up with my man said guru it's gonna pop up with the little indian yoke Because this is philosophy for money music bro. Talk about your money However, i'm telling you say it's all the money taking it back to it taking it back to it Because i want to get too lost in translation The Bruno Mars thing was amazing but at the time that it happened if i'm being honest with you It happened when i was at my most depressed state as a um artist and actually i never got depressed until I got into music Like i've never been depressed Success like you want to be successful bro Like to take back to your original first question, right when you asked about uh You know when you get that big success off the top or whatever wanted to keep up with that or whatever Bro, i'm an athlete first. I played basketball, ran track and football I would have like i'm a very competitive person because i've played all these sports in high school You know what i'm saying? So it's like that part of me is like I want to kill all these niggas that I would have I would want to kill it for like my brand I would that i'm building isn't even about like i'm trying to be a better rapper than kendrick I would have a shit i've already just met this man and like i was saying to you earlier like damn the Energy that he showed me 10 years ago nine years ago when we first met was where it's like I'm not in the competition with you Actually, I just named dropped your name in the song and then ended up being the remix the bitch don't kill my vibe Trin and james and i was like oh what the fuck You know imagine being a nigga at a concert a big concert I'm kind of like the biggest name, but he is who he is at that moment I would ever like i'm kind of bigger than him We're like the kids are a little bit more ready to see me than him to a certain extent Now i don't know weird shit just like Like i'm a southern nigga and i'm just giving the culture At that time literally the energy we need is like the first like i the quit not the equivalent But somebody that gives that i think gives the culture the energy that they need right now is like glow rilla Like the energy that the culture wants in a party It's her song Love glow man all the way And you to provide it they hold on to it Like i think that young that young she got way more songs than the song that's going crazy How whatever because i like her But what i like to pay attention and that's why i started started working on my new album here in atlanta um and only working on it really here in atlanta is because This is the perspective that mattered The reason why you appreciate all go everything is because that is the perspective of somebody that Is not trying to be famous But literally like bro this was going on for a nigga that's trying to be cool The level of atlanta nigga cool, which is like, you know, atlanta niggas think that we god's gift to earth Our descendants are outcasts and this person and that person, you know, so for me Taking it all the way back, you know all the lessons that i learned And but the lesson taking it back to your questions about the brutal thing I was very depressed at the time. So when the initial play came through, I was like, I don't care Y'all fucking me over anyway. Fuck y'all. I would ever sew it It wasn't to your people or to the overall system to the system I would have my people brought the play to me. I would have like a bro brutal march Fucking with you. He wants to do something. I'll go everything I would have I felt such a distaste in my mouth towards the game And everybody and the distaste came the distaste came because The difference between the streets and the industry is many of them But one of the distinct Differences that i'm gonna touch on right now is that when somebody does something that is legitimately some fuck nigga shit You cannot really whoop they ass You could without consequences That really affects you You know, it greatly affect your bottom And I'm speaking corporate. I ain't even even artist is one thing I would have them niggas fight all the time probably on some secret circle shit and Keep going and just be having beef fabric Like why do you think it's beef fabric? Because they think it'll be fighting the concerts that you don't see or be fighting that this and He think he's got to find in the bathroom in the airport and you wasn't there You talking about the real gangsters with the suits and the pants This the corporate people or whatever they will do something that is Legitarily disrespectful to your culture to you as a black man or black woman To you as an artist no matter your race and it is nothing that you can do And if you come from an environment like I do how whatever that is how we were taught to handle certain levels of disrespect I'm a conversating type of fella. My conversation is pretty damn on point But there's been things in this game the way that it's been done where it's like, well, I don't want to do no talking I want to put my hand on the face. So you saying they got That ass-wippin type disrespect. That's just the norm around this motherfucker. Yeah on that level of like fuck talking Yeah Oh, yeah, imagine you walk in you hear your shit on the topic commercial and you don't have no say so in nothing That they were like, thanks for making the song man. You did us a solid black motherfucker Right, that's what you chicken outside the door nigger Hey, why don't you use those big lips and eat some of that fruit over there? Hey get a kool-aid packet in here Hey, look what I got you wish went platinum. Guess what we giving you A watermelon cherry kool-aid Yeah, man, he gets you you your mammy will be really proud of that one, wouldn't she? Yeah, like how do you deal with that talk speak to that? Like how do you get through that like because I think that's what a lot of people who watch this That are on you know, because we got a lot of people that watch us that uh Don't even know that they on the cusp of becoming the most successful that they ever became in their life So these are things that we need to get out there like how do you get past that? What's the way to navigate past seeing that feeling that and not being able to do nothing? How do you walk out of that room and still continue to be? Whoever you are before you walked in I think that stand my first thing I would say to you is stand focused on out working the opinion Out working out working the room Um, you ought to understand your advantage your advantages. Well, my advantages. I'm the culture. I'm really outside There have advantages they have spent their life learning the business and how to take your culture and Monetize it. I would ever so that instead of focusing on The oppression I think you should focus on the knowledge that you lack And then that being able to fight it is what allows you to kind of like be in a better position now to answer a little bit more Detailed into your question I have been blessed enough to not get that extreme stuff happened directly to me but Micro that micro aggressions. I think you've heard people say that in the workforce. I feel like those are the things that A lot of the newer people and labels don't realize that they're doing And the ones that do older people they know what they're doing. They don't give a fuck It's like your parents your mama if that's how she cooked this shit that she could be nasty So she's been cooking in that way for 37 years nigga. That's how it's getting cooked It's the same thing with the older people in the label thing or whatever It's like brown if and James Brown took this contract turned out James take this contract, right? I would have it It ain't necessarily Personal my nigga or whatever. It's just like it's just the business and there's how we do it If you never beat me in court to make me change this contract. I'm gonna keep using this contract my nigga You know, I think that the industry is changing for the better Um because more people of color are coming into it But even outside of more people in color, it's not about us We are always going to try and figure out how to be team us whether it's a clique or all of us But the newer races of people that are coming in that are understanding that These old dinosaur ways are not even appealing to them. So the new white a and rs new white CEOs or whatever like some of these guys Now being 10 years in this shit. I met them when they were just a Mid-level a and r and now they're like svp of this record label and shit like that And you can see when they pull a white man move because they just can't help that they're white I I hate acts of white people to do black shit. It's like bro. I expect the white person to do white shit because he's white Right That's what he knows when you go when he goes to his house and lives his lifestyle And you go to your house to live your lifestyle It's different or whatever like let's take our families. It's different So unless you take the actual conscious effort to do your homework on somebody's culture You will always be buttonhands I would ever because I don't want to keep blaming somebody for something that you've been doing for 500 years I need more knowledge to beat it I need to beat it. I need to beat it. I need to if I don't beat it I need to make sure that I leave enough things Enough interviews with other brothers and other sisters and other people whether whoever the racist person i'm talking to Whereas like we figured this out because it's people outside of being black. I want to beat it I would ever am. Hey, what's up? How you doing? She's been Carlos Miller. Did you know? Did you know that january 28th? I'll be in san diego at the balboa theater Did you know that because it's true? I will be at the balboa theater january 28th In san diego. So grab those tickets and come on now Oh, yeah, we'll be at the balboa theater. 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You can't say that It depends on what you let me for over there. You shouldn't be able to just goddamn go home and be like listen We're white over here. You've just been making money off black people all day But that's why I love you because I'm that's what you're saying No, okay, and I can show you love as long as the profit margin is there So you want a nigga to be loved if I ain't got nothing that you ain't got nothing They come on jump in the car. I ain't gonna see you walk down the street that type of love No, so what have you got a hundred white artists on your black label? How should that look? I'm trying to sign as many tick tockers I feel like acorn is like the show or of like hey, that's the fever. Yeah, lady gaga. He's like, it's possible He's not See A black man on a country Music label and he got a hundred white artists signing the fucked up deals and he getting rich as fuck off of them It wouldn't work the same. Okay. We would do it. We would do it Right. He wouldn't be like, yeah, he couldn't goddamn come over to like red wouldn't be All his money off white people music then come over here and act like he motherfucking dr. Dre Listen here toby. Hey, you know It might be a nigga that did that. They just never let us know who he is, right? I mean, we're Things to other races that they were pissed off about like when Michael Jackson bought a boy in the catalog They were friends But he didn't sell it back to No I ain't gonna say back your jokes chico. You say what now you pardon me your jokes How you need the money if i'm the Beatles fuck them jokes You say i'm mic fucked up with it. Nigga. No, you can't have them goddamn jokes. Mike. I'm gonna buy some of your shit Mike, can i buy my jokes back? Mike, hello, Mike, can you can you give me my what's dropping over here? Give me my songs back Now tell them i'm gonna take one of my books. I need at least one of my no's I'll see what you say. I'll see what you say. I'll see what you say. I'll see what you say. Mike, about that she had won too many times He put that shit over the nigga. She was like, all right I'm not playing stop asking me I'm not selling you out What is that? As Paul McCartney the lawyers couldn't stop me Slaw the other pockets had him tied to a rocket. Amen Michael Jackson ain't got to do shit for you So he got hit up a couple times and he didn't tell it where he had Mike fucked up The girl is mine The girl is mine Points like that are points that are set Chips type shit You don't know what went on when the When the what like and said That's not gonna let it fell through. Paul might have got drunk one night. I'll give me your fucking money when I feel like it Okay Hold on You gotta go step further because you know Paul said Mike Asked him was the best way to make money as an artist and Paul was like by Publishing to other artists He pointed about their shit. So he gave him the game, but he ain't mean go buy. That's what I heard He ain't buy my shit, man. So that's even colder But like but like for you being in the game 10 years now That's an eternity for you know any artist to do anything like how much do you? Credit the fact that Not just the music but like Something that I always looked at you for just because it's some shit. I meant to just the fashion How much do you credit that and stretching you? These 10 years um at least 50 percent Images images during that james superpower. You have to understand your superpower Like this too far The dress stuff The dress stuff like wearing a dress I would have like a war dress Um, I've wore What to call it is I know I understand the fashion perspective of it Because mind you I'm really the person I own just nobody that's why you'll see gays at my show You'll see whites you'll see you but you're gonna see the most left of center people How to trim their james show or the most left of center fans of music they trim their james fans I would have a why is that I don't ask that question no more I just cultivate these niggas and just want to build things to build communities and build metal verses and build things To cultivate all these left of center people that my frequency speaks to them my confidence speaks to them That's what it is. You know I'm saying so, you know, um I forgot what your question was The fashion Image is everything man, you know, um, that's that's my suit. I started as a stylist before a musician Right. I started in fashion before I ever picked up a mic. So images. I always felt that I had image handled because artists were coming to me to dress them before I ever did music Who's some of your fashion? That just was about to ask that I gotta get it I gotta get it. So, of course, under 3000 james brown little richard prince Escarita if you don't know escarita escarita little richard kind of got his swag from escarita Yeah, I know back in the day. Yeah, my grandfather played for little richard's band. He played the horn and little richard's man Yeah, Clifford Clifford berks. Yeah I don't think I heard this before Yeah But those people those people in some shape or way, um, my older brother, um, his name is so Solomon Um, he was one when we didn't grow up together. I got a lot of brothers and sisters because my pops was he was a roller He was a roller and um We didn't grow up together. So even though I have so many brothers and sisters. I grew up by myself So I'm a very like selfish person and um When I met my brother for the first time as a as like a little bit old. I was a teenager He was a little older. He was older than me. I would have out. He was in new yorker. I was like Damn this nigga got More jeans than I got clothes like just jeans I would have in like When I left I went to visit him for the first time when I left there. I ain't seen him again for years But in my mind I was like Okay, I got something to live up to how whatever type of situation. Um, the way that my parents treated me because I came over as an immigrant I wasn't born in Atlanta Unfortunately, but I love being a trinidadian proud trinidadian um Atlanta molded me as a as a you know a child in the dope island fuck what you do, huh? Oh, yeah, I mean So you so you Do what you went through the city man I love dc because the Caribbean demographic there is amazing to me bro all the way It's really really good. Like if anybody that's watching this right now, which is probably millions of people because we're going viral for something um dc's, uh, Caribbean culture not just trinidadian even though trinidad the best Is amazing. Hey, man. Why y'all don't fuck with tobago, man? Oh, nobody said that what literally These these shoes my my sneaker these are The maxi taxis because and they're discolored because in tobago Okay, they're the blue maxi taxes only in tobago. You can get a blue maxi taxi So I dedicated a maxi. So maxi tax is our formal transportation. Oh, whatever our formal transportation. I was trying to pretend like I knew Y'all was like But you are right though Tobago does not come out people's mouths when they say trinidad is often as a shit You know what I'm saying? I mean, I I just didn't do what they tobagan Tobagonia. Tobagonia. Tobagonia. Tobagonia. Tobagonia. This shit going crazy. Yeah It's historic all the way, but yeah, I like the tobagonians. Yeah, all of that. That sounds like a spell The contract with Bruno that was straight no Yeah, so Bruno Bruno did great business. Okay. Yeah Sometimes your attitude can block a blessing and luckily I was able to get out of my funk before That's that's ironic That's crazy I'm just a vessel from I'm just doing the Lord's work. Yeah, but um, I was able to get out of and as soon as I Unfortunately had left out of Atlanta went to LA to shoot some music videos with a guy who um, kind of like threw me a bone It my whole everything changed, bro Everything changed and I say that to say where it's like, bro I love Atlanta, but I had to get out of Atlanta in order to really appreciate Atlanta Because Atlanta made me who I am as an artist and partially as a man But who I am to be that's not Atlanta's decision is God's decision And I think he just had more for me and sometimes when you got when the universe has more for you You got to go to that medium to help you get what's more for you It's no offense of this to what helped you become a part of you. Oh, I feel the same way But Atlanta didn't birth me. I wasn't even born here. You know what I'm saying? So that's why once again, you're gonna hear me keep saying I really look at these last 10 years the beginning of it. I came to do the Lord's work I'm in messenger What the culture needed, you know, I'm saying and people still talk about the thing that happened 10 years ago That still matters. I just did a show and goddamn Jacksonville, North Carolina That shit was going upside down like the song came out yesterday You know, I'm saying why is that because that spiritual hymn it works in this church still they still go by that Bible, you know, I'm saying like in Atlanta. We get new spiritual hymns every two weeks It's like this church is creflon dollar. We're turning them in and out We got new clients You know By the time the song go like global we already be tired of it in Atlanta because we don't hurt the shit Yeah, it works for you And that's what you're for because you did ask a valid question. Boom. He did good business I was in my feelings and I got out of my feelings in time. I would ever was able to hit my people like, hey Did we do good business on this because I didn't hear the song Until I got to LA to shoot a music video and two things happened the same day that song dropped And the song that me and your scooter did was on Grand Theft Auto 5 Did we do did we do the business on this, you know, I'm saying and You know If I'm being honest with you to take it back to a lot of things people are always like, man, they go out with dropping Gems or whatever something that's just like bro So many things that happened to me because I didn't know shit coming into this I literally didn't know shit when I went to work at the waterhouse. I didn't know shit. I had never stirred eggs I would have never left apart that bitch a super grill master chief in the red shirt Hey, what's up? It's Carlos Miller. I hope you're having a good day Try some of these candles from my favorite candle brand. 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It's going crazy Carlos Miller is bringing jokes like you've never seen jokes before February the 17th Here we go. February 3rd through the 5th 2023 summit city comedy club at Fort Wayne, Indiana This shit far as a fucking way, but I'm still doing them February 24th through the 26th I bid the improv in daniel, florida. Where the fuck is that? I don't know, but I'd be there March 4th variety playhouse in Atlanta, Georgia Oh, shit. I got some Atlanta shows We had a squad coming out for that one two shows at the variety playhouse. That sound like a strip club They got me working at the strip club Fuck it. I'ma do it. All right. There we go All right Last April 8th 2023. I will be at the mirage in Las Vegas. I'm back at the mirage, man So that bitch out the last time y'all came out. We're gonna do it again the mirage I had a suit on and all that and my shit still was like this That's a super girl mask chief master operator The one that I might have came in contact with like this nigga on this shoot Landed motherfucking ass You gonna find out about the person who you have in high regard you don't realize that they've been doing him wrong Right, he's just been working there a long time But he ain't been trying to level up and that's the difference Waffle house taught me that his people who I saw his certain things are not going to bring them all up Because I'm close with some things But a lot one of the biggest lessons I learned from things like the waffle house things like working at gins of the clothing boutique Where I used to work work at how whatever is that people work at something for a long time But they don't work on leveling up. They work to just work How whatever and you can get caught up in this working atmosphere Where it's like bro, is that all you want to be trading time for money? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's this literally just uh That's it. I would have been I just um once music showed me that I was worth more I just been Digging for that goal. That's the goal. I've been digging for because like what what more can I be worth to to my culture? What more can I do that makes? Something you know, I'm saying crazy, you know, I said what other things does god have in store for me? Because if it wasn't meant for me to be here, how would it still be? Cranking things out that crush how would have whether it's for me or writing a hit for other people we're not um Random fact random fact and somebody ever said to you. Hey, bro. You know the white girl bad, baby catch me outside Trinidad James wrote her first hit He'd be like no way I first platinum hit song that's launched her musical career. Oh, yeah, I was a part of that I was a part of you the you wonder started Did you make that white life? He's gonna claim that one of the next two is remember that period I period, uh, that was me too He got the feeling right Boy, hey, you know what I'm saying like word stop this shit. Hey, but now I shout out to my boy who I wrote Random Get that check, but but now you know and that's the thing about it is like certain things happen Um, you know, even when I'm even meeting that young lady at the time. She's so young I would have every foot where to be in the room. You know what I'm saying? Um, but it was just like bro talent don't really got no color, bro It really talent bro It's so interesting bro like the talent that god gave me he gave me the will to go find the talent He gave me image. He gave me confidence The talent I had to go find that motherfucker, bro and just dig for To bring it out because what all or everything took off But that's raw me and my boy hosé was just listen. I've been because I've got you know the 10 I'm just listening to the first project because we're working on a new project Don't be safe too for the new album. And I'm just listening to it. I'm like, bro This shit is so unorthodox the knowledge I have now I would have never been able to do this met this terribly perfect perfect masterpiece If I had all the knowledge I have now Like You can make Hey, everything Nigga go down with just the big Now fucking with the fridges But you know even to any young artists is watching this it's like, hey man If you really do make something that hits our culture like that, bro, you really can make 20 of them Don't think that you can't Huh sit here. I saw a clip you say you hate this song Hate what the song the all go everything. Yeah, I don't hate the song I hate and I want this is the devil's advocate for you To a young person watching if you make something like all go everything and you you catch a wave Do not let anybody tell you to not make 10 of those make 10 make 10 Now to play devil's advocate The reason why I did not make 10 is because those people Limit our culture they kept they keep our culture locked in a certain place Because they make us feel like that is the biggest version of us And I knew that I was bigger than the nigga that they perceived That they wanted to make this like it's a lot of characters to Trinidad James But if this nigga is the nigga that you want to make the face of our culture No, yeah, I didn't go for that right and so that was a personal decision that you got it Well, you're able to fit my size 11 to order to handle that because most niggas would have took the money And made 10 to 89 more all go everything Come on nigga You will tell them people like listen to the whole album Like you kept telling people when you because that's important to me I know that is more to me than this thing that you are goddamn doing backflips about in the middle Of goddamn central station. I would ever I do appreciate this love because love is love You know how long you go as a black man not getting no love. You know how long you go as a black woman not getting no love You know how you go as long you put the sad music behind this one, man It needs to go Adopt a black person Hey, people need love I don't feel bad about saying black When i'm saying about this because bro, that shit really is tough, bro Honest, bro, you know what i'm saying? I know that it's tough on humans I know that it's tough on every human. You know what i'm saying? I would not like to be a woman in the middle east. They just got a license of The eligibility to get their license like three years ago How are you not crazy that is how would ever like to be a whole woman? Yeah, love told me about being over there. That shit sounds scary You know what i'm saying? It's like damn, you know, so it's everybody's going through their own version You know, i've traveled a lot. You know what i'm saying? And i'm always i always dive in the culture when i travel as much as i can I go do my show i go make my bag But you'll see me in three o'clock in the morning and there's some hole in the wall or some boom or boom I'm just like damn like what is this about? I think that's how you get in touch with you know the people and really That's the way I realized just within the you know united states I realized that you know and doing that same thing that this shit is the same everywhere where we are Me first, I wish I went viral as a comedian compared to artists I wish I was doing all go everything as like a new jokes kit And then that went viral and then I would have started doing being a comedian Because I feel being a comedian is the last art form where you can tap into culture and literally be a 100 Transparent version of the jokes that you're saying in the barbershop. It literally can be the jokes you're saying on stage But at the same time one of the benefits of doing it your way in 20 years And then you gonna be on one of them line-ups Perform and all go everything get in the bag, but we can't come do the jokes we did yesterday But you can do a reunion tour That you said the last time they saw you you can't do that Oh, okay, actually we jokes don't hit the okay, when they heard it they like what's next thing But when you think that's true, baby because do you think that's actually really true? Or do you think that like if we go to Kevin Hart's first series and he did like I'm only doing this jokes from this right here That those people won't come up for that. No, I don't not not well, maybe like this Like it never is like I'm doing the lyrics One time only What you ready to run with that shit in that set has gone global and everything Anywhere we can do delirious right now Yourself blow up no, but not delirious into the concert They want to hear a new song That they like just as much as your last one. That's true It ain't never heard before They want folks really they really never heard before They want you to do your old shit because because you know when you go up and you give them the new shit Oh, man, that shit was great. Why you ain't do but you gotta not request and you like deal Then you go up do your old shit. Then they be like damn right? So it's it's it's like he said you want my old shit, but I'm a old album Right, but it's like that's the thing about being a comedian where you go in and like low said they want to hear The new song that they like just as much as the old one, but they ain't never heard the new song Yeah, that's what it is so and that's what I've been that's what I've been studying for the last 10 years It's like, okay Now and not for the last 10. I'm lying the first five years I wasn't studying what all go everything was doing to our culture I was studying how to survive in this industry The I would say the last four years of the 10 was when I was like I'm lying when I worked at Bruno Mars That's when I was like Oh, shit. I got to do homework on myself I would have because the main thing I learned from working with him Was like damn this nigga been studying me and I'm not studying me And this nigga could do me better than me in the moment right now And you moved on and I'm learning on you like I'm out here, you know what I say, but I think about artists like three thousand That's why they just stopped it's like bro. I'm so far ahead. It's like I can't do it no more It might be a trick. That's how I keep Making myself believe that One day he's just gonna pop out with 8,000 songs. He got a one. Who are they hitting the same for you though? We take anything We take anything That's how great it is A decoded song Stop rapping at the end. It was like that's all I got And then the thing in the mean is I like with three thousand this door his process of doing it better than Dr And keep teasing us with this detox shit that is supposed to be coming out since I was in the 11th grade Like Like man, I was in the studio with Dr Like See what I'm saying I don't want to don't keep teasing me with this shit. I was like a credible person. He's like bro You want to hear some shit from the detox? They went to me. He was to another person who was bigger than me I would ever so I'm just like now He once again knowing how to play the position or whatever. I was like, well, I'm gonna get out this conversation I would ever Just a little bit above me right now Have whatever and I heard songs from the detox or whatever and I was like, okay This is great. You know what I'm saying, but it's great from the standpoint of like whenever you get it It's gonna be worth it Man, because he's just a great musical maker But it's like every time that you get a glimpse. It's like a tease to where you like, okay I've been hearing this for so long When am I going to get something to be able to satisfy this tease with 3000 It's you that nigga just walk around with a flute. He don't give you no Inclination that he And whenever you hear about him and he rap he rapping it's something that's out. Yes Is that Kanye West first about his mama is I went back and listened to all the songs he did for the cartoon Oh Class of 3000 That shit go hard. That's how much I fuck with that nigga music sonny Come on, man What's it called? You know and the beauty once again, Andre is one of those people who is like I hold in high regard Because of meta. Oh, yeah. What's it called? He came to my trap studio in metropolitan when I first kicked off I'm through a come on dude. She was a big fan But she was a big fan because he put her on me. I would ever tell you shit. So I was like, damn What's going on? That's why it's hard for me to be like my life had to change over the 10 years I had to get used of like Not being the regular fan. I was the people and like, okay. Now we are companions. Now we are business You know, we got to do business, you know, so it's like bro I come from straight out of the trap straight out of the streets I would ever hand-to-hand selling kicks this that that that they're like, oh damn I just got paid a hundred thousand doing show with Drake I would ever this shit gotta be hard because all these badass bitches in here and rich ass niggas in here They want to show they just spent all their money because I just made it You know I'm saying and Drake is ready. He's always ready. He's always ready. He's just always ready To change this Drake. I remember I will never forget the shows. Houston All-Star 2013 That I have two shows the same night. I've just made so much money And it's me Drake two chains at one show Then I have to leave them because I have another show with me GZ and ti nigga, I Just Look I don't want no problems with nobody But february 19th. I will be in columbus georgia at the bill heard That's right ladies and gentlemen. It's going down at the bill heard in columbus georgia February 19th. That's 2023 brother make sure you get those tickets and make sure you come to the show I'm coming for the bill One night one night. I just quit my job. Wait a minute. Hold on. Time break time Okay You was working I stopped that job Like right in january all-star February has basketball in february all-star So you quit the job january and in february you the boss was like the dude was like amen You got a doing too big stupid show. He's like you can't work in the way because it already went crazy because of The video went viral. So we already had everybody calling the phone to sign me rick ross diddy I'm hanging out with diddy boo boo So it already is lit from a clout thing and But your money it once again money is about throwing it as far as you can throw it I would ever don't try and get all the money like I got all the fame up front How'd I but I ain't get all the money up front. I wouldn't ever so that was what was awesome about it I was like, man, fuck for you. I would ever I was like don't want to change fame or do I want to see this money Go long long whatever. So I was like, okay in order to get the money Anything I've ever succeeded that I had to actually do the things because I'm a hard worker I'm a bootstrap type working nigga. Like I gotta go. I wasn't good at working smarter Who the fuck is wearing boots with straps on come on, man. She's You said I had a question for you though speaking of boots with straps on them, uh, what's your fashion moment like that moment? You spoke about a lot of the musical moments that Eric about dudes or two What's that moment where you was in the fashion side of the game? We was like, oh, shit, nigga You like at one of them shows watching them Balenciaga models walk down how crazy like what was that moment for you? I think honestly, man, um, it's a brand called bo de Some people pronounce it as bold. Some people say bo de bo de. Yeah exactly, um the designer is from Georgia or whatever and, uh I was shopping with her early I was on the brand early because I'd be outside just still seeing shit. So things clothes be speaking to me And we got so cool. She invited me to her first runway show in paris for men's fashion week 2020 pandemic year so just before the pandemic in january in paris My first time going to paris just to like kick it. My first time going to paris was on my birthday Um, 2013. So I came in the game September and then my birthday 2013. I would ever Wow, you're there for a show. That was a wild year. It was on tour. It was wild. It was wild, you know, but So my next time back in paris was 2020. So that's seven years later. I would ever for fashion week Um, her show big show. She she liked the the little baby of fashion How would ever if you compare like the bubbling like, you know what I'm saying? She got got them That's the soul. She got the energy going. She got the team How would ever she got the people vouching for how whatever like will welch and mark anthony green Those are like the heads of the gq. That's like, you know dugs saying like man Here with the money to get out of the right to stop trapping burn rap I would have like the equivalent of that. So like I know that because I care about fashion Just as much as music as far as like who popping and like who really the shit And she invited me to the show And it was a first show and it was like, oh shit. So go back to paris And it's a moment Right before we go inside walk around the corner and get out. I'm fresh as fuck I'm fresh as fuck. I'm talking about bruh I'm fresh as fuck You know what I'm saying like it just You see going to paris fashion week. I always walk in the shit really humble Whereas like I really don't think I'm gonna be the first to dig in something. I'm really just putting on some clothes I would ever and When I went to paris, I was like, man, it's these niggas on this super fashion shit That's why I went a long time not fucking with fashion week because I was like, man Just a bunch of niggas who with their egos they went to college They think they better than me because I didn't go to college fuck these niggas I would ever and then I realized I was like, oh damn I just better than everybody. So Coming to paris going to that show Coming around the corner all the cameras stop at all the like known fashion people who they were on It was like, who is this person? or whatever Getting all their attention and walking and sitting for a row and just in that moment I was like, damn a nigga really in paris right now Some fashion shit the first time really in Paris when there's a white bridge behind you with a duck on You're like Smoking a cigarette this long And I asked that because you know just being as into the you know that as much as I as you grow with it I know that you've got to grow with it. It's not something that you could just pick up Like I done been buying my own clothes for so long that I know it's a process Like this nigga tell you like I'd be in the mall nigga everywhere, you know, I mean and I got a Process I walk around that bitch one full time see what I see and then go back and put it on the guy It's like it's it's a it's a process But I remember the moment for me one of the moments for me is I come from DC We got a lot of local brands that you know, I mean the madness and the all days and the shooters and all And when I started getting recognition from no leaders to these leaders Am I tripping? No, no, no. No. Yeah, it's a bunch of I'm thinking of something the major or court is a major or court museum museum Yeah, museum. That's my boy majors in DC. You know, you know majors majors You know majors majors in DC. That's freeware company. I ain't never I'm not hip to majors my bad majors I don't know if y'all knew but you know, I mean, I know the ones this from when I was a young You're not about to sit here like never don't put that shit on. Oh now put that shit on It take him a while, but he get it on I see him down a little bit I see him there with the poor man Oh, I see him there. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? With the White and Stofi fame shirt Man, I like you man. I come back in shit. Yeah, you did A rumble. Oh, yeah. Yeah, a rumble? Yes, he did. Yeah, it was a Zara rumble, too. A Zara rumble? Oh, it was from Zara. You're sassy, boy. You can tell it was that slightly above H&M quality, but below You know what I mean, man? Zara is a gem to anybody that won a ball in the budget. Man, they fucked up mine. Zara got that shit. It's right above H&M quality, but below like Sandro Parris and all of those people that give you the real silk and all that shit. Even though he had it. Now you calling it bullshit. No socks. Yeah, he had those fucking slides. The Gucci slides with this. But take it back to what you said, Nachiko, you know Fashion and image, man. You know, if I didn't have it, man, I would have been quit music. Like if I didn't have that to balance it out. Because music business is they, they, they are not in the game of it's, it's, it took them a long time to get to where we at now. It wasn't meant for us to win in it. It was meant for us to survive in it. And I'm an immigrant. I've been surviving my whole life. All I know is survival. So I was like, how long do I gotta, I gotta survive my whole life? When can I get to a place of living? When can I get to a place of like being able to just be, to, to be treated as an actual equal? How would it ever, it might not be for me. It might not happen because it just might not. But I think that what's been more important is being able to take the time whenever I'm depressed. I was like, bro, the world and everything that's been against me. And get back up. Make another project. Do new things. Do movies. Make my own sneaker. Start a brand. But in the midst of it all, be a good person to people. Right. You know what I'm saying? No matter what, I've never been bad to nobody. I would have, I might not have came and couldn't have come through or whatever. But my intention, to me, once your intention is in the right place, then you be all right. As long as you're not normally hurting yourself and nobody else. Yeah, come on man. You know what I'm saying? And I'm so happy. The happiest thing I'm about, happy I'm about right now, I don't know when this is going to come out. But whenever it does, whenever somebody looks at it, if my album don't be saved too, without, then know that that music means a lot to me. Because I had to fight a lot of depression and a lot of personal battles and a lot of self-sabotage to get to that place, to be able to write those words. A lot. A lot, a lot. And this is me in the midst of, you know how conflicting it is and how depressing it is to be able to write a hit song for other people to watch that go viral and you can't write one for yourself? Or whatever. It's the worst feeling on earth. It literally is. So, you know what I'm saying? And so like to, whether you hear, well know when this interview come out, you know, to know that my project, my next project is called Don't Be Saved Too. I'm working on it currently. So if this comes out, after the project comes out, know that that music, if you chose to listen to it, you know, I wanted to do too. And know that means a lot to me because those words were not easy to write. They were not being a lot more vulnerable because it's like all the things I've learned in this game, you know, it's 10 songs, 10 years, one year per song, damn near. It's a lot. It's a lot, bro. You know, when you actually really do care about morals and character in a world that is moralist and no character, you know, you have to control your narrative at all costs. And that's not always easy. As good of a communicator I am, as much as I know and all that, I'm human. I'm human as fuck. You know what I'm saying? But the fact that I can tell you that, look, if you see me on the stage performing my new album, I'm bringing that smoke because I'm happy as fuck. You know what I'm saying? I had to fight day and night to get out of that depression, to get out of that self-sabotage because when they put you in a chokehold, it puts you in a chokehold, bro. Any features on that? Yeah, for sure. I would have me talking to you now I haven't locked them all in. Okay, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? Because Don't Be Safe is not about having the biggest names on it. Don't Be Safe is the start. But now I know when you say you're coming out of that depression, you want to make music with people that you don't reach that soul. You say somebody and you be like, who's Tony Snow? You be like, who's that? You know what I'm saying? Who is Bruiser Wolf or who is dangerous than a muffler? Yeah, yeah. You pick on Street Fighter. Bruiser Wolf. So that is what I've been studying the game right now. It's like, damn, should I just drop my album on TikTok? Should I just drop my album on 85 South Channel? Like, what is it doing? Okay. It ain't nothing for a nigga like me. My whole life was devised to make it to show a nigga who really don't do shit by the rules. That you can be successful and take care of your family doing it however the fuck you want to. That's the whole model of the 85 South Channel. Come on, man. Let's go. Look, man. Whenever you drop that shit, come back. Come back, man. Come back. Get some lemon pepper wings and we'll do an album. It's no right way, man. It's no right way. And I really appreciate everybody here. Shout out to my boy DC, who's not here. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're y'all. The thing that like, and I'm not a cryer because I just, I don't know my eyes don't do it, but Damn, nigga. You gotta get some more sleep. I don't know. I'm trying to see if this nigga blinked the whole time. But, no, man, you know I'm trying to see if this nigga blinked the whole time. But, no, man, you know the fact that brothers like y'all exist and platforms like this exist and y'all, I've been wondering, I was like why can these real niggas show me respect but then other people don't get it or whatever. And once again it's that media versus in person. You know, so every chance and every opportunity that I get to push what I got going forward whether it's my music, my clothing brand my socks, you know what I'm saying? Whatever it is. Anything. Movie. This, that, that. I truly appreciate it because I'm always studying our culture and not just our culture. You said something earlier that I want to touch on before we get out of here where it's like, bro, when I went to Africa for the first time this year in 2022 because that's when this is happening for anybody watching whether it's 2042 when you're watching. Nah, ain't gonna be that late. No, niggas still seeing this. No, I'm saying the first like 2042. The shit ain't going away. It's coming out, but it's gonna last. What's up y'all? It's your girl, XT and it's your girl, Drai in the call and I got some really good news for y'all. We're about to revamp our whole Patreon. We got so much new shit coming soon for y'all. Like we about to be doing challenges we about to be doing blogs we really about to be dropping a lot of exclusive content for y'all. So if one episode a week is not enough we're about to get some more content on Patreon. Yes, y'all be saying, oh, the episode's longer. I need twice a week. Well, this is your opportunity to see us twice so we can also, you kind of get you're gonna get a look into our lives. No less on a personal level. So make sure y'all sign up at patreon.com backslash poor minds sign up today. There's different tiers. So if you want audio only, you can just listen. If you want video and audio we have that too. And also we have a top tier where you get exclusive access to merch, shows, all that good stuff. So go to patreon.com backslash poor minds and sign up today. Here we go. About 2022, think about this. I went to Africa for the first time this year twice. I went to Nigeria to bring in the new year. Lagos. And then right before June I went to Cape Town, South Africa. And a lot of love out there. Man bro, Nigeria first of all felt like Atlanta and Houston and New York on steroids. Times a hundred. Damn. Times a hundred. Like smart. I see you. I got to know you. We've been talking about this shit for too long. We've been talking about this shit for too long. We got to get over it, man. Everybody in Africa said it. Everybody in Africa said it. We've been saying it. That was so nice. We got to get over it. We got to go to Africa for the first time. The first time. And the reason I bring those places up and the reason I'm saying it to you is because we were talking something about Black culture and I think we were talking about like if a Black person has a label or White person... you said something I wish I wanted to stop there but Oh he got that being from America. Yeah. race. It really is one race. Black Africans, I got to see our culture from three black perspectives. I was born in Trinidad and Tobago, so black Trinidadian and Tobagonian culture, right? And then I grew up here in Atlanta, real top. You know what I'm saying? Elementary middle school and high school. So they can't tell me shit about Atlanta or whatever. Black American culture. And then I went to Africa and you got to see black culture, which is basically the, it's the same thing. I got to see a person in Africa that look, talk, walk, and act just like a nigga in Atlanta and a nigga in Trinidad. Same features, same disposition, the same laugh, the same teeth, the same smile, the same weird things that we got in our culture. It's the same thing, bro, is we have been taught, whether it's by each other or other cultures that we are different types of black. It's one black. It's one black. I'm just putting it out there. It's one black. So everything, everything that's happening, it's not because of us. It's because of separation of us. So when you go a place, do not think that you are less than you right there. And if you go around the, you know, you, you, you know, you're going to be around, around the right Africans when they make you feel that you are just like them. You should not feel less than a black person at any time, because all black culture is one culture. I think you get that more if you go over there, because over here, everything's jaded because of what the images that the project. We got to go to Africa. Just tour Africa. Oh, God, just tour Africa. We might be too raw in some places. They don't come to come to me. You are saying too much. When you say you eat the pussy, what do you mean? They don't care about that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't be afraid. We are not going to do nothing to you in front of anybody, but we need to know what you mean. Yeah, but we got to get over there. I see they look movies. I buy any black person. If you don't go to Africa, you are doing this service to yourself. You are doing this to your culture. I tell the same thing that black people need to come to Atlanta. I think black people just need to come to Atlanta. If you're a black person, you grew up in Wichita, Kansas, and all you know is Wichita, Kansas. Then you're doing a disservice to yourself and your black culture not coming to Atlanta. Yeah, because you get to see a success level. In Atlanta that you don't get to see no way else. Atlanta is the only city. I don't think Atlanta really supposedly exists. I know, right? That's the thing I say about this city in general. Like, this is one of the only places where you can come and become successful and not be a target simply because you're successful, because it's so much black success where every other place you go for the most part, if you the nigger with the bread and the big Bentley and the chains and everybody is looking at you. Black success is expected in Atlanta. Yeah. It's expected in other places. I feel like it's battle by the other culture. Like, Houston is close. I would have like Houston is that the black millionaires there. They crush it. They do that thing. But I do feel that Atlanta black success is just expected. You expect to meet a rich black naked or a black woman with her own business going crazy. Hold it for other places. The talent is there. The money is there. Like, I mean, shit, the DMV. Hold it. You go to certain parts of DC. Hey, they're not my rich ass black people over there. And that's the gentrification. But they still black, but they, you know what I mean? I didn't realize what you mean. I mean, it's just an area where all the black people are. I'm talking about, like, you know, where you have Atlanta and you have, you know, a base. You guys being from here, the people who are from DC don't benefit from the successes of the city. They come from somewhere else. They come from somewhere else. When I was in DC, I was like, oh, damn, it's a division here. I hate when I see a division in black culture where when I'm like, bro, y'all so close to each other. Why are y'all, why are y'all beefing? It's a 20 minute drive. Like, this is stupid. Oh, whatever. But it's like this has been generations and generations of like you're working to get on this side. So if you're on that side. Yeah, yeah. Right, did you get to stay over there until you pay? Right, exactly. And it's like, bro, let the nigga over here and show him how to stay here. But that's a crazy perspective. We got ways to go, but our culture going to make it. We're working on it. We're working on it. We don't ever count my niggas out. Count my niggas out. Don't be safe, too, guys. Man, don't work. Dad socks. Shout out to my brother, RGP. Someone that can get shoes, all your products. Yeah, it's paying hard, too, man. It's a black-on company, RGB Atlanta. How would that verse support what we're going to find out? RGP.com. RGP.com. RGP.com. RGP.com. B. RGP.com. 3. Fuck up, man. I don't know about this shit, bro. Watch what I want next week, bro. Bro, what you doing? Wait till you pull up. You got soap? Hey, man. I just tried not to show y'all my shit, because y'all are always talking shit. Yo, let's go. Hey, man. Let's do whatever. Roll yours up. Come on. I got a question for you, bro. Here you go. Yeah. Question. 2013. Charles Camino. Yeah. Yes. Meeting Donald Glover, Charles Camino, how have you wanted to refer to him? I identified with him because he grew up a drove a witness. I grew up a drove a witness. So when I saw that left the center awkwardness, I was like, oh, he just a drove a witness. How would that result to me? Like, the first time I met him, he's like, oh, he flew me out to come do the thing with him in Chris Bosch's old mansion in LA. Nice ass mansion on the hills, pool off the side of the hill. You know what I'm saying? It's just amazing here. It's me and Chance the Rapper playing Connect 4, just hanging out. You know what I'm saying? Life is great. You know what I'm saying? At the time, I don't even know who Chance the Rapper is. I don't know what I'm saying. He's just like, oh, I'm going to play. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to play. I'm going to bust this nigga. He don't know how good I am at this game. It's actually the only game I'm good at. Right. I don't know how good I am at this game. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It's a long time ago. I'm really sorry. I've got way better with black culture over the years. Being around him, he is a very great curator to me of the people that his association. So it showed me then I was just like, damn, I got to find some artsy friends, artsy new friends. I had my current friends, but we were so street. I come from street shit, bro, which is like, I'm not down on it. It's just like, bro, that has a certain type of skill set with it. And if I'm not doing that skill set, then it's kind of useless in the things that I'm doing now at the time. So when I got around him and his entourage of people, I was like, damn, these niggas know songs I've never heard of that helped me make my next album. Like me and them helped me do Tempe Smile my next project where I was like, ooh, what if I do a song that has Gucci man, scooter, alley boy, and then, oh, wait a minute. I just did this thing with Charles Campino. He from the East side. So mountain is the East side, the suburbs and the hood. If it got black people in it, it's still one. It's just a different type of house. You know what I'm saying? So like that's like me and him show me that like, we're going to be all right type situation because left ascent is okay. And seeing Atlanta later on and just seeing how you move is like, duh, this dude right here could make Star Wars by himself. And then New Face brought you some shit. New Face! New Face in the Vs. Atlanta legend, ghetto legend, legend, legend. Let's do it. Oh, wow. Yeah, we do it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Then you open that up. Trinidad James in there. Woo! Yes, sir. But then you open that up right there. It's inside there. Yeah, it's got inside there. Oh! Come on, man. I did it. I did it. It's my own head. Come on, man.