 Good morning everyone. Welcome to our weekly mentoring. Before we could start this session, I would request one of us to lead us in prayer. Can I request Sid to lead us in prayer? Father, we come to the throne of grace. Thank you as you have given us this time Lord. As we have learned in APC Bible College Lord, whatever we have learned Lord, thank you for the word, thank you for this opportunity you have given us and whatever learning we have got here Lord, whatever the experiences we have got here that it should be used for the Kingdom of Expansion and for your glory Lord. All glory to be given Lord, let me be humbled in your presence Lord. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you Sid. So we keep this time open to all to ask questions, share thoughts, discuss or clarify on any topics that is in your mind. We keep the session open. You can post it on the chat or unmute and ask questions. Sid, Paul, anyone, Apni, Aradna, if you'll have any questions, please feel free to ask or you can post it on the chat. Yes. Hi brother, please go ahead. Yeah, may I have a question? Yes, please. Brother Paul, your voice is breaking. Would you like to type your question on the chat? I guess there's some problem with the network. Your voice is not clear. Can you please post your question on the chat? Meanwhile, any others like Sid, Aradna, Apni, you'll have any questions you can unmute and ask or post it on the chat. Looks like there's some network problem with it. Okay, please go ahead John. Okay, we believe Jesus took our curse at the cross. Do we need a special prayer to enforce the victory over curse or it is broken and have no access as we believe in Jesus? What is our understanding about curse breaking, special prayer? Is there any of our faculty would like to pick up this question? Good morning. Good morning, Danna. Good morning, John. I just a quick thoughts on that. So we have to look at it from two perspectives. One is whatever has been provided through the cross has to be actively appropriated. That means just because Jesus did it on the cross doesn't mean it automatically happens in everyone's life and even for the believer be actively appropriate. So there's that aspect of it. So the curse is broken, the blood has redeemed us, but we actively appropriate it in our walk of faith through faith and believing God. So that's one side to it. So the answer is yes. We do pray. We do receive by faith. We do declare our freedom from every form of curse. On the other hand, we must not overemphasize the evil which is what was the problem in many, many circles. There's a lot of emphasis on curses in the bloodline and generational curses. While we understand the reality of it, we don't want to keep the emphasis on the negative. We want to keep the emphasis on that the work has been completed and we have to appropriate it by faith. And it's a simple thing. We don't want to make it so complicated. For instance, the way people complicate this whole thing is by saying, okay, you need to go back to finding out what happened to your great grandfather and this and that. So you're digging up into the family tree. Another way people complicate it is by trying to dig up into the childhood of the person, oh, when you were three years old, this and this happened and then they traced that back. So these are activities which seem spiritual, but they unnecessarily complicate the whole matter. So in response to your question, I would say, yes, we have to actively appropriate everything that Christ was provided for us by faith, including our freedom from every form of bondage and so on. But let's keep it simple. Christ did the work. We receive it by faith. Let's not, you know, try to complicate it by doing a lot of things. If the Lord specifically reveals something that, you know, a person needs to deal with, then definitely we respond to what the Holy Spirit says and go with it. But other than that, we know we don't make charts and draw diagrams and trees and telling people to trace back four generations and those kinds of things we don't do because I think those are just human efforts. Yeah. Yes, Pastor. Thank you. Thank you. But then you're on mute. I'm sorry. Thank you, Pastor. John, thank you for letting us know the transitive question. And we have another question from Paul. What are some of the reasons why some of the prophecies do not come in to fulfilment? Yeah. Pastor Nancy or Pastor Paul can take up this question, please. Yes. Thank you, Pastor Diana. And thank you, Paul, for this question. Why do some, what is the reasons why some of the prophecies do not come into fulfilment? So, Paul, we need to understand that though unsaid, prophecies also tend to be conditional. Okay. Now, with regard to what God has, you know, there are certain things in scripture that don't change. For example, we were promised that God would send us a redeemer and Jesus came. He, you know, took our sins and then we have prophecies about, you know, Him coming back. So, there are certain promises of God that do not change, but otherwise, you know, especially things that have to do with personal prophecies, they are conditional. So, though things are spoken over our lives that, you know, certain things will happen, we have to also cooperate with our obedience. When we don't, it is possible that the prophecies don't come to pass. So, our cooperation is required. The other thing that I would say is to pray through the prophecies because we see Paul instructed Timothy to do that to wage a good warfare with the prophecies that were made over his life. So, prayer also plays a part. So, when we hear a word spoken over our lives, we must start praying it through. So, that is another thing that I would say. So, one is obedience. If we are not obedient to that word, then, you know, it may not come to pass. And also, the second thing would be prayer. If we don't engage in prayer for that word that has been spoken over our lives, again, it may not come to pass. So, with these two points, I think I will stop. My colleagues could please add. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Any other faculty would like to add to it? Yes, Diana. I would like to add one point. So, the point that I would like to add is about preparation. So, there will be times when, you know, any one of us could get a prophecy. So, for example, if, you know, somebody prophesies over us saying, you're going to be a great evangelist or a pastor, and there is, after we receive that prophecy, there has to be preparation also, which is a practical aspect of, you know, spending time in the word, reading the word, meditating on the word. Because we know that if I have to be a pastor or evangelist, I need to be equipped in the word. And so, that whole practical aspect of spending time reading the word, extra time of, you know, studying the word, the word of God. So, I'd just like to add that point, right, of the practical preparation, whether it is pastor, evangelist, or even if it's a worship leader, if somebody has prophesied, you're going to be a worship leader, there needs to be a practice or a preparation for you to get to that place. And yes, so preparation is something that we all have to do after we receive a prophecy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Paul. Thank you. Okay, that answered your question. Okay, thank you. We also have another question from Sid Kenu. I want to know that like a new religion has been coming into existence called the religion of Abraham, combination of Jews, Christians and Muslims believe to end the fight and to follow the footsteps of Abraham. As we all are offering of him, is it from Satan or is it evil? Do we Pentecostal need to be away from it? What are our views on it? Please explain. Pastor, you would like to answer this question, Pastor. Sure. I personally have not heard or looked into this religion of Abraham, but I guess I can understand what it is because obviously Jews, Christians and Muslims all trace their spiritual ancestry through Abraham. So it's probably just an attempt to do that. But I think the answer is pretty straightforward. In Galatians chapter one, also in 2 Corinthians chapter 10, Paul, the apostle states very clearly that if anyone comes proclaiming another gospel, something that's different from the gospel of Jesus Christ, we are to avoid that that's not from God. So the answer is yeah, we stay away from it because definitely we know that what God is doing and what we are called to believe is in the gospel of Jesus Christ. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Sid, did that answer your question? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you, Sid. Is there anyone, I mean, you all can post your questions or you can unmute and ask. Avni, Kiran, it can be pertaining to your subject or to the course that you have taken or you have any doubt, clarification, please feel free. Okay, I have a very small question. When we read Psalms, we often read this word wicked in it. So the wicked. So how do we understand this word wicked? Like who does Bible refer to when it says wicked shall wicked? So what I'm asking is about like, is it talking of believers and believers or those people who are actually doing wicked works, but there are unbelievers who are not into any kind of wickedness. So I'm just confused as to who does the Psalmist refer to when he says the word wicked? Is there any of a faculty who would like to take up this question? Pastor Jakes, would you like to answer this question? Yeah, yeah, Dana. Thank you. So when the Bible says wicked, when the Psalmist, particularly the Psalms, I'm assuming it's referring to those who are not walking the path of righteousness because Psalm 1 itself declares that, you know, a blessed is a man who walks not on the council of the ungodly, nor on the path of sinners, nor in the seat of the scornful, but his delight is in the law of the Lord. So someone who who's away from the law of the Lord, away from the path of righteousness, and who's also indulging in acts of unrighteousness. Yeah, I would say because this is, of course, before the cross. And so, you know, yeah, so that is my understanding that a person who's referred to as wicked is not someone who is someone who is not walking the path of righteousness as given in the law of the Lord. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, pastor. Abni did that answer your question. Any other faculty would like to add to it? Thank you. Thank you, pastor. Thank you, Abni. Yeah, we look forward for any other questions from our students. Any of our faculty also, if there's any question that you would like to ask or share your thoughts from your class, please feel free to share. Yes, pastor, I think I've been a question, the question that came up a couple of weeks before. So the course on the marriage, cuisine marriage and family, and one of the students what a question on whether Saragasy is biblical. And yeah, I just wanted to maybe understand it better from probably the other pastors also is Saragasy biblical. Any of our faculty or pastor, would you like to take up this question? Sure. Now, there are many, there are many things the Bible doesn't speak on many, many things. For example, this might be a silly example, but the Bible doesn't talk about cigarettes. So, you know, the Bible is silent on the subject of cigarettes. So should we smoke cigarettes or should we not smoke cigarettes? You know, it's a silly example. But so how do we come to a conclusion? Well, we just keep in mind some other, you know, both other scriptural kind lines plus just basic general guidelines. So, you know, what would be the other relevant things the Bible does say that things that the Bible does on this matter. Well, the Bible says our body is the temple of God. Then the general guideline is okay, what does cigarette smoking do for you? Well, it actually destroys our body. So then we arrive at a conclusion, though the Bible does not speak on the subject. Based on, you know, these two perspectives, we arrive at a conclusion. And so, you know, we take that same approach to many things where the Bible doesn't speak directly on, you know, so like surrogacy, there's so many other areas like genetic engineering, just huge, huge areas where the Bible is silent on, but then we arrive at a conclusion on the same thing. You know, is there anything else that we could see in Scripture to bring light that is relevant to this particular topic? And secondly is, you know, is it in any way harmful, just from a natural perspective, is it harmful, dangerous, anyway? So, and then we present our findings and obviously, in such matters, we always say in my opinion, because we can't use a particular chapter and verse to arrive at that conclusion. So, there are believers who believe that you can still smoke cigarettes and make it to heaven, just that you'll get there a little sooner than the others. So, you know, so that's their perspective. So, in this same, and even in, so in all matters, when we are, you know, arriving at an answer by using these two approaches, we qualified by saying, in my opinion, that this is my understanding of it. So, you know, so even in a matter like surrogacy, we would say, look, in our opinion, we don't find anything wrong with it, because there is nothing that the Bible, we can think of in the Bible that speaking against it, scripturally, and that from a natural standpoint, well, you know, somebody's helping a couple have a child, for whatever reason, they themselves are not able to have. So, you know, we don't see any, you know, sin in that doing that. So, again, this is just an opinion that we arrive at based on, you know, taking this approach. Then, you know, so yeah, I think, you know, that's how I would look, you know, respond to that. And we'd apply that same framework of thinking to a lot of other areas where there is no, you know, chapter and verse that we could call. Is that okay? Should we have? Yeah, that's fine. I think part of the question was because there are different kinds of surrogacy. And so when it involves the seed of a surrogate mother or surrogate mother, would that be acceptable? So there's gestational surrogacy where the seed of the actual parents are taken and put into the surrogate mother. So, you know, there was a question there also on, would that be acceptable when it's not the seed of the original parent and it's the seed of a surrogate mother? Yeah. Yeah. Again, this is just my personal opinion. I don't see anything sinful in that. And I don't see anything wrong in that. You know, it's just, I mean, if you extrapolate it, you know, birthing is just a small part of a person's life. It's a nine month process. But think about adoption, where parents adopt a child and that's real parenting, where they are taking care of the child or the baby for the entirety of their life. That's even a bigger step than, you know, carrying a baby in the womb for nine months. And we don't find anything, you know, actually be blessed adoption, the Bible blesses adoption. And that's real parenting. So if I just work backwards from that, then I can say, Hey, there's nothing wrong with this, you know, we're not doing anything sinful at all. That's that's my thought process on it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Jean. And thank you, Pastor. Classes from the Mekia that would be from August 2022 onwards. Pastor Tamil Tandeya, groaning in prayer. Does the believer groan in prayer or does the Holy Spirit groan in prayer? Can I request any of the faculty to take up this question? Yeah, I think it's Romans chapter eight and verse 26. So let me just read that was the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses for we do not know what we should pray for as we ought. But the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings, which cannot be uttered, which means that he enables us to move into that place of intense prayer. And with words and utterances, he inspires us. And as human beings, of course, we speak it out or we pray that out. So it is both the believer groans in prayer as inspired by the Spirit of God as lit by the Spirit of God. Yeah, yeah, I think that's the that would be my response. Am I right? Or okay, I think that was a that was a quiz for faculty. Okay, somebody sent an email, you know, like after the sermon, I see they came up with these questions. And like, another question that that same person asked was, um, it says that groanings which cannot be uttered. So that means these are very silent, you can't hear it. Oh, okay, okay. That was the other part of it. So, so then I, then I kind of responded saying, you know, the context is, you know, from Romans 8, 22, 23 and 26, all three verses used the phrase groanings and was 22 specifically says groanings with labor pains. So, so just responding. So when a woman is in labor is a groaning silent or is it loud? And so, so then when it says it cannot be uttered, it simply means it's in articulate speech. It means it's not a normal speech, you know, it's groanings that come out in a very different way than just our conversational articulation of thoughts. So I just asked because this was the same, I asked what three four questions on that. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. We have a question from Sid. Okay. Sid's cousin is an SI in Delhi police and he is afraid of shooting a criminal in the encounter. You also got a notice from a senior asking why you are not using your weapon. He says, what should I say to him? He is stuck between his duty and religion. Any of our faculty would like to take up this question please. Pastor, would you like to take this question, Pastor? Take up this question. Sure. Yeah. So, you know, one is, I think a passage that we could use is Romans the 13th chapter versus one to about 10 or so. But it is talk about, you know, civil authorities and how they exercise their powers to promote what is good and root out what is evil. So obviously these, the civil authorities have to exercise their authority. It's part of them, you know, doing what they're supposed to do and they're appointed by God, Romans 13 says. So you can let him know that, hey, whatever he's called to do, it's actually the work of God in its ministry. He's a minister of God, just as much as a pastor who preaches, you know, any other minister of God. So that's his responsibility and it's a work of God. And of course, it has to be done within the framework of the law, with fairness and justice in what the law permits. As long as he's carrying out his duties in the framework of the law, he's doing right. So you could use Romans 13 was one through 10. Thank you, Pastor. So did that answer your question? You can share this with you. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Sid. Is there any other question? Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to ask Pastor actually on the light of the same response. So it's the bigger picture is like, can a Christian serve in the army? And probably I guess the difference is between murder and maybe carrying out a judicial justice or wielding a weapon for protection or to bring in law and order. So there's a difference, I guess, between that. Right, Pastor. Like, right. Yeah, we can. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, so, you know, we know the Bible says in one of the 10 commandments is, thou shall not kill. But of course, it's understood in the context, the same God who said, thou shall not kill in Exodus 20 in many other places. He does tell the people, go and kill, go and kill. So there's a context to, thou shall not kill and go and kill. Right, so, and I'm just looking at the old testament itself. So obviously, that killing is, thou shall not kill is when you're doing something wrong, murder, like you said. But then when somebody is in the armed forces or in any form of security, where, you know, at some point, they may have to resort to, you know, the taking of human life. But it's done within the context of the law of the land. That is fair and just. That's executing justice. That's executing righteousness. And yeah, so that's not a violation of God's law. Right, Master. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Is there any other question? Any questions? Okay. We have a question from Sister Dinah. I hear some people say that the 10 commandments is not relevant today. That Jesus had given us a new commandment. How does one respond to that in its most simplest way? Any of our pastors would like to take up this question? I think Dinah, the most simplest way is Romans 13.8. It says, you know, he who loves another has fulfilled the law. So if you basically, if you walk in love, you've kept the whole law. That's it. So that's Romans 13.8. And of course, and we find many other scriptures that reiterate the same thing that Jesus gave us this commandment to love God and love people. And if we walk in love the way God wants us to, we keep all the 10 commandments. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. I hope that answered your question. Thank you. Thank you, Sister Dinah. Is there any other question before we could end with our session? Is there any other question? I think it's okay. We could wrap up in prayer, Dinah, if there are no questions. Sure. Sure, Pastor. So before we could wrap up with this session today, I just want to keep all of us updated that this would be the last mentoring hour for fall 2021. And thank you each one of y'all for participating week after week. And we will resume our mentoring hour and also the supernatural hour will be last for tomorrow and mentoring hour today. And we will resume our mentoring hour in spring 2022 on Thursday, Jan 13th. Okay, so we will end the session with a word of prayer. Dear God, we thank you for this time. Thank you, Father, for giving this time week after week and be able to come in your presence and clarify our doubts and learn from it, Father. Thank you, Lord, for the faculties that here who's been a blessing to each one of us. Are they able to impart from your wisdom, from your knowledge of Father. And we also bless each and every student who joined week after week, Lord. Thank you, Father, that you are teaching us through your word and clarifying all our doubts and you're equipping us even in this time, Father. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Lord, we surrender ourselves in this day in your hand. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much for joining in. God bless. See you all tomorrow at the supernatural hour. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. God bless. Thank you.